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Posted: 9/16/2019 12:20:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: D_Man]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Your concerns are my concerns. The only 10w model I'm aware of was the tri band with HF. That's why his comment is confusing to me. On my power meter it reads about 3 watts on low, 5.5 watts on medium, and 8 (UHF) or 10 (VHF) on high. It's also confusing, the box and sticker on the back of the radio implies it's the tri-band model, printed that its the 152 (U/V/H), but it's not. It won't go to the 10 meter frequencies and has the antenna that comes with the dual band models, not the longer one they sold with the tri-band. But this labeling confusion is probably why some sellers are saying they have the tri-band model. Their product description technically matches what the radio and it's packaging/manual say they are, but that's also wrong. It was stated before, TRI did a small limited run of tri-band models in early 2018, and they're all out in the wild now. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:28:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Conspiro-Agnew]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man:
I have had hands-on time playing with a newer high power dual-band 152, the models that sell for about $300 on EBay. On my power meter it reads about 3 watts on low, 5.5 watts on medium, and 8 (UHF) or 10 (VHF) on high. It's also confusing, the box and sticker on the back of the radio implies it's the tri-band model, printed that its the 152 (U/V/H), but it's not. It won't go to the 10 meter frequencies and has the antenna that comes with the dual band models, not the longer one they sold with the tri-band. But this labeling confusion is probably why some sellers are saying they have the tri-band model. Their product description technically matches what the radio and it's packaging/manual say they are, but that's also wrong. It was stated before, TRI did a small limited run of tri-band models in early 2018, and they're all out in the wild now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man:
Originally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Your concerns are my concerns. The only 10w model I'm aware of was the tri band with HF. That's why his comment is confusing to me. On my power meter it reads about 3 watts on low, 5.5 watts on medium, and 8 (UHF) or 10 (VHF) on high. It's also confusing, the box and sticker on the back of the radio implies it's the tri-band model, printed that its the 152 (U/V/H), but it's not. It won't go to the 10 meter frequencies and has the antenna that comes with the dual band models, not the longer one they sold with the tri-band. But this labeling confusion is probably why some sellers are saying they have the tri-band model. Their product description technically matches what the radio and it's packaging/manual say they are, but that's also wrong. It was stated before, TRI did a small limited run of tri-band models in early 2018, and they're all out in the wild now. I also found a source for real PRC 152 batteries, picked up a few of those, some Harris CR123 battery cases, and some Harris AA battery cases. There’s also a site selling real PRC-152 30-512 MHz short blade broadband antennas too, as opposed to the cheap antennas that come with the radios. ETA site is called Disco32, in case anybody is interested. |
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Posted: 9/17/2019 10:16:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OutlanderSystems]
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I promised I’d show something cool that can be done with these. It’s going to be nice not having to carry separate batteries for separate devices anymore.
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Posted: 9/18/2019 2:03:11 PM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileI love the 152. The market needs to provide me an HT that has 6pin, is durable, and has good batteries. Until they do the Chinese 152 is the king. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 2:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
I promised I'd show something cool that can be done with these. It's going to be nice not having to carry separate batteries for separate devices anymore. https://i.ibb.co/1b6PHDS/2-AD293-EE-FCDA-41-EE-9-ADA-82-C3-DCBB6-B40.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcx8FCHW8ec
The next one I do will be with Anderson Powerpoles so it's device agnostic. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 2:36:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OutlanderSystems]
[#6]
Agreed. As well, I absolutely love the Abbreeeeeeee antennas.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/8FAA7FEC-3631-401C-B8C7-5B1F7C73C206_jpeg-1094512.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/BDE71527-268D-4D28-A127-E0A18B3CDA5E_jpeg-1094513.JPG I love the 152. The market needs to provide me an HT that has 6pin, is durable, and has good batteries. Until they do the Chinese 152 is the king. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/8FAA7FEC-3631-401C-B8C7-5B1F7C73C206_jpeg-1094512.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/BDE71527-268D-4D28-A127-E0A18B3CDA5E_jpeg-1094513.JPG I love the 152. The market needs to provide me an HT that has 6pin, is durable, and has good batteries. Until they do the Chinese 152 is the king. I also stumbled across this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Dynamics-Military-Digital-Radio-Transceiver-USB-Headset-Audio-Adapter/192046413625?hash=item2cb6dbb739:g:ldEAAOSwImRYJNp~ For $30ish bucks, I may pick one up and slap a SINCGARS W4 jumper cable on it, and see if it will work as a TNC for the clones. If not, there are some U/229-to-Kenwood adapters floating around that should work with a Signalink USB. Originally Posted By D_Man:
Not bad, I see the battery adapter piece and the male power connectors are sold on Ebay. Works with the 152 pattern battery as well I assume? |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 2:46:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MustyWaffles]
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Did you get the TCA 148 in yet? I just ordered another abree today. The 42 inch. You know the abree antennas will work on the 152, the blade will screw into the provided antenna for the 152.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Agreed. As well, I absolutely love the Abbreeeeeeee antennas. The connectors are slightly different on the 148 vs 152 for retaining the battery to the radio body. I can check the fitment on a 152 battery tonight when I get home. If not, I guarantee you that Battaxx will have a similar adapter for 152s, or make one if you ask them. The only issue that could arise from the 152 vs 148 for powering external equipment is that the 148 batteries output at 12.6V, whereas the 152 batteries output at 10.4V if my recollection serves me. If your external radio will run on voltage as low as 10.4, you'd be in business. The X5105 will run between 9-15V, which is pretty forgiving. I also stumbled across this: http://thumb3.zeppy.io/d/l400/pict/192884625561/general-dynamics-military-digital-radio-transceiver-usb-headset-audio-adapter https://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Dynamics-Military-Digital-Radio-Transceiver-USB-Headset-Audio-Adapter/192046413625?hash=item2cb6dbb739:g:ldEAAOSwImRYJNp~ For $30ish bucks, I may pick one up and slap a SINCGARS W4 jumper cable on it, and see if it will work as a TNC for the clones. If not, there are some U/229-to-Kenwood adapters floating around that should work with a Signalink USB. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 2:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
The only issue that could arise from the 152 vs 148 for powering external equipment is that the 148 batteries output at 12.6V, whereas the 152 batteries output at 10.4V if my recollection serves me. If your external radio will run on voltage as low as 10.4, you'd be in business. The X5105 will run between 9-15V, which is pretty forgiving. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 3:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Agreed. As well, I absolutely love the Abbreeeeeeee antennas. The connectors are slightly different on the 148 vs 152 for retaining the battery to the radio body. I can check the fitment on a 152 battery tonight when I get home. If not, I guarantee you that Battaxx will have a similar adapter for 152s, or make one if you ask them. The only issue that could arise from the 152 vs 148 for powering external equipment is that the 148 batteries output at 12.6V, whereas the 152 batteries output at 10.4V if my recollection serves me. If your external radio will run on voltage as low as 10.4, you'd be in business. The X5105 will run between 9-15V, which is pretty forgiving. I also stumbled across this: http://thumb3.zeppy.io/d/l400/pict/192884625561/general-dynamics-military-digital-radio-transceiver-usb-headset-audio-adapter https://www.ebay.com/itm/General-Dynamics-Military-Digital-Radio-Transceiver-USB-Headset-Audio-Adapter/192046413625?hash=item2cb6dbb739:g:ldEAAOSwImRYJNp~ For $30ish bucks, I may pick one up and slap a SINCGARS W4 jumper cable on it, and see if it will work as a TNC for the clones. If not, there are some U/229-to-Kenwood adapters floating around that should work with a Signalink USB. I think it would be better to use a regular sound card interface (bought or built) using a U229 connector. I'll probably build one when my 152 gets here. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 3:14:16 PM EDT
[#10]
What's the designation for the amplified speaker that you can connect to a radio and then plug a handset into that? Google is failing me.
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Posted: 9/18/2019 3:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: Yep, on fleabay they have two versions of the TRI 152; the 10W and the 5W. The 10W comes with the 12.6v battery, and the 5W version comes with the 8.4v battery. Whether the 5W version can go to 10W if you slap a 12.6v battery on it, I don’t know, as I didn’t buy that version. I also found a source for real PRC 152 batteries, picked up a few of those, some Harris CR123 battery cases, and some Harris AA battery cases. There’s also a site selling real PRC-152 30-512 MHz short blade broadband antennas too, as opposed to the cheap antennas that come with the radios. ETA site is called Disco32, in case anybody is interested. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 3:53:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: D_Man]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KPog: Disco32 has some nice stuff. Their PTT works well with Baofengs. I tested their vest mounted antenna and the SWR was incomprehensible. And as you would expect, any bending or weaving of it would shift the readings all over the map, and it was never anywhere approaching decent. If you look under the outer net/wrap material, it's obvious it's just a piece of coax with parts of the shield stripped away. Doesn't look like a coax-dipole or something obvious like that, I might take it to bits and see what exactly they were trying to accomplish, but as it sits I wouldn't use it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 4:16:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: If it did 6M and had specs at least as good as a VX-5R I'd think about it if the price wasn't absurd. But yeah, if it Did P25 I'd be all over it. A low band would be great for SAR and EMA groups to cover all 3 bands in one radio. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 4:26:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OutlanderSystems]
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Negative. It hasn't hit customs yet, so I'm fully expecting to have to sit on my hands for at least another week.
Originally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Did you get the TCA 148 in yet? I just ordered another abree today. The 42 inch. You know the abree antennas will work on the 152, the blade will screw into the provided antenna for the 152. Originally Posted By D_Man:
My mcHF clone QRP radio rates 9-13 VDC in, so it might work for that or other "QRP" type HF rigs. Also the TRI made batteries with the 10W 152 are about 12.0-12.4V. Contingency plan for audio interface: 
Originally Posted By phurba:
I found this thread on Steel Soldiers talking about doing just that. It looks like the guy gave up on it because the audio level from the radio was extremely high and he was having issues with PTT. I think it would be better to use a regular sound card interface (bought or built) using a U229 connector. I'll probably build one when my 152 gets here. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 4:48:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/8FAA7FEC-3631-401C-B8C7-5B1F7C73C206_jpeg-1094512.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/BDE71527-268D-4D28-A127-E0A18B3CDA5E_jpeg-1094513.JPG I love the 152. The market needs to provide me an HT that has 6pin, is durable, and has good batteries. Until they do the Chinese 152 is the king. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 4:50:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ASRM:
P25 would be nice. Just conventional is fine. A low band would be great for SAR and EMA groups to cover all 3 bands in one radio. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 6:01:35 PM EDT
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I’d just about do a flip for a 10m SSB HT.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin:
I just want 6m out of one of these. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:10:04 PM EDT
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MRC-165?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
What's the designation for the amplified speaker that you can connect to a radio and then plug a handset into that? Google is failing me. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:21:15 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
I’d just about do a flip for a 10m SSB HT. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 8:37:04 PM EDT
[#20]
How is this different from chi-com bootleg counterfeit LARUE, AIMPOINT, fakes ???
https://www.aimpoint.com/support/counterfeitcopies/how-to-recognize-a-fake-aimpoint-sight/ 
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:27:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: How is this different from chi-com bootleg counterfeit LARUE, AIMPOINT, fakes ??? https://www.aimpoint.com/support/counterfeitcopies/how-to-recognize-a-fake-aimpoint-sight/ https://www.harris.com/sites/all/themes/custom/harris/img/default_social_share.png Is it kind of poser-ish from an aesthetics point of view? I guess, but I don't think this is really the reason people are buying them - more than they are for the ruggedness of them, and how easy they are to integrate into real comms headsets. If these were competing with Harris sales-wise, it might also be an issue, but how many people do you know that own a real civy-legal version of the 152 (RF 7800V-HH)? They're pretty hard to come by, and super expensive. At least, that's my take on it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:33:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K9-Bob]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: How is this different from chi-com bootleg counterfeit LARUE, AIMPOINT, fakes ??? https://www.aimpoint.com/support/counterfeitcopies/how-to-recognize-a-fake-aimpoint-sight/ https://www.harris.com/sites/all/themes/custom/harris/img/default_social_share.png Nerdy men playing dress up just seems foolish to me. Buy the real thing if you want to be truly impressive. 
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K9-Bob: Typical ARFCOM counterfeit nonsense. Nerdy men playing dress up just seems foolish to me. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:44:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:46:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K9-Bob:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54857/IMG_0407_PNG-1095069.JPG Counterfeit commando thread.  
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:48:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OutlanderSystems]
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RTOs:
The only guys in the unit with thicker quads and stronger backs than the Weapons Squad dudes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
Meh, I was an RTO. For me there is an element of nostalgia. Now if only I could get a 150 clone, because I loved (hated) it so much, especially jumping combat loads. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:54:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
RTOs: The only guys in the unit with thicker quads and stronger backs than the Weapons Squad dudes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
RTOs: The only guys in the unit with thicker quads and stronger backs than the Weapons Squad dudes. Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
Meh, I was an RTO. For me there is an element of nostalgia. Now if only I could get a 150 clone, because I loved (hated) it so much, especially jumping combat loads. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derek45: How is this different from chi-com bootleg counterfeit LARUE, AIMPOINT, fakes ??? https://www.aimpoint.com/support/counterfeitcopies/how-to-recognize-a-fake-aimpoint-sight/ https://www.harris.com/sites/all/themes/custom/harris/img/default_social_share.png I could care less if it said Harris on it. I want a radio with specific features, not my fault the Chinese are the only ones making something worth having. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 11:31:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:10:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:16:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Nice. I really want to pick up one of those Abbree long bois.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/450004/9CC3BA55-B63F-4035-9B8D-6531087E5D1D_jpeg-1097077.JPG  |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:19:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Nice. I really want to pick up one of those Abbree long bois. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:36:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Damn right
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
This 42incher works GREAT. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:36:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:39:24 PM EDT
[#35]
Fkn wow, bruh!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:50:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Dang! What’s the reason for so many? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46541/152_jpg-1097104.JPG
I have a gang of xts3000s that I wouldn’t mind replacing with a pile like that. 
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:57:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Do it. I sold off my 6 Astro Sabers and should have immediately converted them into Pricks.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Last time I checked this was still America? He doesn’t have to answer stupid questions like that.
I have a gang of xts3000s that I wouldn’t mind replacing with a pile like that. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/204273/FAD9704D-923B-460A-BE0B-B321283C1625-849765.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 5:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Dang! What’s the reason for so many? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ridgedaddy:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/46541/152_jpg-1097104.JPG 
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Do it. I sold off my 6 Astro Sabers and should have immediately converted them into Pricks.  
Those 3000s have been used at a bunch of Cola Wars and other events and have been super handy. Does anyone make a gang charger for the 152s that is obtainable and isn't $5000? |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:30:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Conspiro-Agnew]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
It will likely happen. I have something like 50 Motorola radios at last count
Those 3000s have been used at a bunch of Cola Wars and other events and have been super handy. Does anyone make a gang charger for the 152s that is obtainable and isn't $5000? |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:38:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: There are currently a couple of the THALES 8 bay chargers (which normally go for about |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:42:52 PM EDT
[#43]
I have an unholy amount of 152 batteries I may sell.
The charger linked above will work with 152 or 148 batteries. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Hrm. How can I identify a real 152 battery? And who sells them? |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 6:51:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Conspiro-Agnew]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Hrm. How can I identify a real 152 battery? And who sells them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Hrm. How can I identify a real 152 battery? And who sells them? Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
I have an unholy amount of 152 batteries I may sell. The charger linked above will work with 152 or 148 batteries. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 7:01:45 PM EDT
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Depends on if we are talking about AA packs, CR-123 packs, TRI batteries, or Harris Batteries.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: American Milspec sells a "4 pack" of them for $100 bucks, so $25 bucks a pop. Surplus, but I've bought some of these and charged and tested the batteries and they're good to go. If you can beat 25 bucks a pop, I'd be interested! |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 7:04:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Hrm. How can I identify a real 152 battery? And who sells them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: There are currently a couple of the THALES 8 bay chargers (which normally go for about |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 7:13:58 PM EDT
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Anybody know if the remote port is intelligible enough to use with a vehicular adapter?
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Posted: 9/20/2019 8:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: American Milspec sells a "4 pack" of them for $100 bucks, so $25 bucks a pop. Surplus, but I've bought some of these and charged and tested the batteries and they're good to go. If you can beat 25 bucks a pop, I'd be interested! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: American Milspec sells a "4 pack" of them for $100 bucks, so $25 bucks a pop. Surplus, but I've bought some of these and charged and tested the batteries and they're good to go. If you can beat 25 bucks a pop, I'd be interested! Modify a Harris PRC-152 Battery to work with Airsoft TRI Replica Radios. The TRI Replica PRC-152 Radios are a pretty close match to the real thing, however, the batteries are a different voltage than the Harris batteries, and they cannot be charged with any of the real Harris accessories. This service will provide a modification to your supplied Harris PRC-152 battery to make it work on a TRI type replica radio. You will still be able to charge the Harris battery with any Harris chargers. Furthermore, your battery will then work to power the TRI radio. Note that after this mod is performed, the Harris battery will no longer be compatible with a real Harris radio. Connecting it to a Harris radio may cause damage. Since this modification requires cutting open the battery and re-epoxying it together, there may be slightly noticeable evidence of the battery reassembly, but we will do everything we can to keep it looking nice. |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 8:25:12 PM EDT
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That’s only necessary on the really old first gen, plastic-bodied units.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phurba:
So on another one of their pages: Is that just for the previous gen of radios? |
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Posted: 9/20/2019 8:26:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
I promised I’d show something cool that can be done with these. It’s going to be nice not having to carry separate batteries for separate devices anymore. https://i.ibb.co/1b6PHDS/2-AD293-EE-FCDA-41-EE-9-ADA-82-C3-DCBB6-B40.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcx8FCHW8ec
The next one I do will be with Anderson Powerpoles so it’s device agnostic. |
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