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Posted: 9/30/2016 10:15:14 AM EDT
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I mentioned hogs to wife also.
She asked we would do with them. 
Truthfully though, I'm not a big pork fan. I love the Bacon, Ham, but pretty picky on the rest. Hogs are supposed to be fairly easy to raise from what I've heard. Not to fond of the strong porky taste. I'm guessing that a stronger taste on store bought pork is how it was killed. I've told her, I was going to get a few recipes online and buy a pork roast and see if i can season it up enough for us to like it. I'll look into the chickens mentioned for meat birds. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 10:30:15 AM EDT
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Wanted to show a pic of our meat birds.
The barred rock looking thing is what we hatch. It is a mix of a barred rock hen and a freedom ranger rooster. Obviously, the franken bird is among our freedom rangers. Notice the size. They are the same age, and almost identical in size.  |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 2:07:51 PM EDT
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When I met my wife, she was (mostly) vegetarian. Not the "MEAT IS MURDER!" types, but she didn't really like the taste of most meat, and she was traumatized as a child (came across a chicken that was absolutely massacred in her childhood). Even when she was "vegetarian", she liked bacon  . Had zero issue with me eating meat of course.
Anyway, once she was pregnant with our first, she looked at me and said: "I need a McDonald's hamburger!" I happily obliged  . Then it was KFC, and by the time our first son was born, she was chowing on many different critters  .
Longer story short, we now raise and process our own meat birds (You want to order freedom rangers, trust me), and are doing hogs next year. The only thing I'm so far not allowed to do is butcher the pig on site and we cannot do our own beef here (she LOVES cows), so I raise our beef at the family farm 25 miles away so she doesn't have to see it (which she is fine with). You want to know something interesting? It is far easier to hunt an animal than slit the throat of a chicken. Don't know why, but pulling the trigger is just so much easier. After butchering I don't know how many chickens, I still don't enjoy it. The entire process practically guarantees you do not waste any of the meat though. Not only the money, but the respect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks for the replies . Chickens will be in my future next year. I have a several projects I need to complete this year still. I'll start with laying hens to get past the learning curve, I haven't got to the what kind yet. I want to also go to meat birds also, but I have a squeamish wife that I'll have to desensitize first. Funny how lot's of people think meat just comes out of a package. I think I have become to accustomed to the packaged meat myself. Even when she was "vegetarian", she liked bacon . Had zero issue with me eating meat of course.
Anyway, once she was pregnant with our first, she looked at me and said: "I need a McDonald's hamburger!" I happily obliged . Then it was KFC, and by the time our first son was born, she was chowing on many different critters .
Longer story short, we now raise and process our own meat birds (You want to order freedom rangers, trust me), and are doing hogs next year. The only thing I'm so far not allowed to do is butcher the pig on site and we cannot do our own beef here (she LOVES cows), so I raise our beef at the family farm 25 miles away so she doesn't have to see it (which she is fine with). You want to know something interesting? It is far easier to hunt an animal than slit the throat of a chicken. Don't know why, but pulling the trigger is just so much easier. After butchering I don't know how many chickens, I still don't enjoy it. The entire process practically guarantees you do not waste any of the meat though. Not only the money, but the respect. I appreciate that about you. I grew up on a farm, and we butchered everything. I no longer have the heart for it, but I'm glad to have the skill, which I could pull out if I needed it, to survive. It is the component of respect for the life that's taken so that we may live...that right there makes a huge difference, to me, in the way it's handled, and the respect I have for the person doing it, whether it's hunting, or raising and butchering animals. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:21:13 PM EDT
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Where are our chicken people???
How are the flocks doing going into winter?? 
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:36:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are our chicken people??? How are the flocks doing going into winter?? I'm getting ready to start re-locating my flock. From the coop to the freezers .last night, the people door to the egg layer coop somehow came open and I woke up to a free-ranging flock. They enjoyed it |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 2:11:55 AM EDT
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Where are our chicken people??? How are the flocks doing going into winter?? ... rebuilding after the bear attack... Two of our own home grown eggs successfully hatched silkys. I think our silkly rooster was predigest or just to slow, as it turns out the only fertilized his own bread, and the only fertilized eggs we ended up with were the little slikys. The others were ordered. I built a removable/ temporary partition to let our little birds start to grow without to much harassment. We have been blessed with some nice weather for our little birds to start out in the coop before winter... It was almost 80 degrees the other day! -We only had two fertilized eggs in our incubator, and both hatched so 100% success on first try is pretty damn good IMHO. We now have to silkys, a few barred rock, and a few araucana's... We currently have barred rock, americana, and red star mix bread. 
Oh, and our new rooster is starting to grow up: 
We got him for free locally... They ordered a batch of hens but ended up with two more roosters then they wanted. We got one, but he died after being to stressed after the move, so I went back and got the other. He didn't die, so his name is "Didntdie" 
---God photo bucket really sucks now...  Took me forever to get this post/ these photos right.
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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:31:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ---God photo bucket really sucks now... Took me forever to get this post/ these photos right.Should see a pic of my youngest enjoying the chickens Nope, dropbox won't work  |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:01:51 AM EDT
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As a tagscribe, here's some random pics of our chicken operation. We're not new to chickens, but everything you see here is new. So pardon the messes and the redneck engineering.
The hen house is ~120 sq ft and their outside pen is roughly 30'x30'. We currently have 20 some odd easter eggers and black copper marans, with a couple of wyandottes and some buff orphington roosters thrown in for good measure. Theres also 9 guinea fowl running around. 
This is a... brooder? tiny pen? we set up to grow a big batch of chicks we were splitting with my folks. Made with an old truck bed pen, chicken wire, zip ties, and redneck ingenuity 
And this is everyone coming outside for the first time. It took me longer than I wanted to finish the fence so they were stuck inside for a few weeks. 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 12:38:19 PM EDT
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... rebuilding after the bear attack... Two of our own home grown eggs successfully hatched silkys. I think our silkly rooster was predigest or just to slow, as it turns out the only fertilized his own bread, and the only fertilized eggs we ended up with were the little slikys. The others were ordered. I built a removable/ temporary partition to let our little birds start to grow without to much harassment. We have been blessed with some nice weather for our little birds to start out in the coop before winter... It was almost 80 degrees the other day! -We only had two fertilized eggs in our incubator, and both hatched so 100% success on first try is pretty damn good IMHO. We now have to silkys, a few barred rock, and a few araucana's... We currently have barred rock, americana, and red star mix bread. http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_003_zpsmc1xmq9m.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_010_zpsdvubnylu.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_002_zpskxp576hf.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_004_zpsvvkknnpw.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_005_zps0gzertzc.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_006_zpshvi2qkby.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_007_zpso3kg4f6h.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_008_zpseiujv6cb.jpg Oh, and our new rooster is starting to grow up: http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161006_031_zpsn0xh9mr4.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161006_032_zpssmjickwr.jpg We got him for free locally... They ordered a batch of hens but ended up with two more roosters then they wanted. We got one, but he died after being to stressed after the move, so I went back and got the other. He didn't die, so his name is "Didntdie"
---God photo bucket really sucks now... Took me forever to get this post/ these photos right.
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Where are our chicken people??? How are the flocks doing going into winter?? ... rebuilding after the bear attack... Two of our own home grown eggs successfully hatched silkys. I think our silkly rooster was predigest or just to slow, as it turns out the only fertilized his own bread, and the only fertilized eggs we ended up with were the little slikys. The others were ordered. I built a removable/ temporary partition to let our little birds start to grow without to much harassment. We have been blessed with some nice weather for our little birds to start out in the coop before winter... It was almost 80 degrees the other day! -We only had two fertilized eggs in our incubator, and both hatched so 100% success on first try is pretty damn good IMHO. We now have to silkys, a few barred rock, and a few araucana's... We currently have barred rock, americana, and red star mix bread. http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_003_zpsmc1xmq9m.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_010_zpsdvubnylu.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_002_zpskxp576hf.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_004_zpsvvkknnpw.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_005_zps0gzertzc.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_006_zpshvi2qkby.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_007_zpso3kg4f6h.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161016_008_zpseiujv6cb.jpg Oh, and our new rooster is starting to grow up: http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161006_031_zpsn0xh9mr4.jpg http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n52/thederrick106/chickens/WP_20161006_032_zpssmjickwr.jpg We got him for free locally... They ordered a batch of hens but ended up with two more roosters then they wanted. We got one, but he died after being to stressed after the move, so I went back and got the other. He didn't die, so his name is "Didntdie"
---God photo bucket really sucks now... Took me forever to get this post/ these photos right.
Awww. Cute little ones. And awesome 'do on that rooster!
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Posted: 10/20/2016 12:40:47 PM EDT
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As a tagscribe, here's some random pics of our chicken operation. We're not new to chickens, but everything you see here is new. So pardon the messes and the redneck engineering.
The hen house is ~120 sq ft and their outside pen is roughly 30'x30'. We currently have 20 some odd easter eggers and black copper marans, with a couple of wyandottes and some buff orphington roosters thrown in for good measure. Theres also 9 guinea fowl running around. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg</a> This is a... brooder? tiny pen? we set up to grow a big batch of chicks we were splitting with my folks. Made with an old truck bed pen, chicken wire, zip ties, and redneck ingenuity <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg</a> And this is everyone coming outside for the first time. It took me longer than I wanted to finish the fence so they were stuck inside for a few weeks. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg</a> Cowboy, your run looks a lot like mine...I hate Johnsongrass.
Your inside pen is great though. Really nice looking. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 3:16:44 PM EDT
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Cowboy, your run looks a lot like mine...I hate Johnsongrass.
Your inside pen is great though. Really nice looking. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a tagscribe, here's some random pics of our chicken operation. We're not new to chickens, but everything you see here is new. So pardon the messes and the redneck engineering.
The hen house is ~120 sq ft and their outside pen is roughly 30'x30'. We currently have 20 some odd easter eggers and black copper marans, with a couple of wyandottes and some buff orphington roosters thrown in for good measure. Theres also 9 guinea fowl running around. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg</a> This is a... brooder? tiny pen? we set up to grow a big batch of chicks we were splitting with my folks. Made with an old truck bed pen, chicken wire, zip ties, and redneck ingenuity <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg</a> And this is everyone coming outside for the first time. It took me longer than I wanted to finish the fence so they were stuck inside for a few weeks. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg</a> Cowboy, your run looks a lot like mine...I hate Johnsongrass.
Your inside pen is great though. Really nice looking. Good for hay. Bad for yards 
Here's the inside. Still a work in progress and needs a good cleaning. 
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:41:10 PM EDT
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Not getting any eggs, and haven't been able to free range them because a dog keeps killing them.
Haven't gotten a shot at the dog yet, but almost ran over it once. (It got into the trees before I could get it). |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:19:55 AM EDT
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Not getting any eggs, and haven't been able to free range them because a dog keeps killing them. Haven't gotten a shot at the dog yet, but almost ran over it once. (It got into the trees before I could get it). Awww. Stake out that damn dog. I love dogs, but not ones that kill chickens. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 12:20:59 AM EDT
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Good for hay. Bad for yards
Here's the inside. Still a work in progress and needs a good cleaning. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a tagscribe, here's some random pics of our chicken operation. We're not new to chickens, but everything you see here is new. So pardon the messes and the redneck engineering.
The hen house is ~120 sq ft and their outside pen is roughly 30'x30'. We currently have 20 some odd easter eggers and black copper marans, with a couple of wyandottes and some buff orphington roosters thrown in for good measure. Theres also 9 guinea fowl running around. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg</a> This is a... brooder? tiny pen? we set up to grow a big batch of chicks we were splitting with my folks. Made with an old truck bed pen, chicken wire, zip ties, and redneck ingenuity <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg</a> And this is everyone coming outside for the first time. It took me longer than I wanted to finish the fence so they were stuck inside for a few weeks. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg</a> Cowboy, your run looks a lot like mine...I hate Johnsongrass.
Your inside pen is great though. Really nice looking. Good for hay. Bad for yards
Here's the inside. Still a work in progress and needs a good cleaning. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg</a> Cowboy, how did you make that door in the wall? Did you just cut it in the side of your building? Looks like it has a flap you can close. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:07:40 AM EDT
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Cowboy, how did you make that door in the wall? Did you just cut it in the side of your building? Looks like it has a flap you can close. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a tagscribe, here's some random pics of our chicken operation. We're not new to chickens, but everything you see here is new. So pardon the messes and the redneck engineering.
The hen house is ~120 sq ft and their outside pen is roughly 30'x30'. We currently have 20 some odd easter eggers and black copper marans, with a couple of wyandottes and some buff orphington roosters thrown in for good measure. Theres also 9 guinea fowl running around. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/B28AD28C-27C8-43BD-8C95-0A00C909F9AE_zpsnvm5ybfo.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/5D0E7151-B436-4C7D-8D29-26A9C0288E0C_zps3c7psnmg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/18607BDA-541D-45E5-8F29-070D10C6A079_zpsb4yiuphx.jpg</a> This is a... brooder? tiny pen? we set up to grow a big batch of chicks we were splitting with my folks. Made with an old truck bed pen, chicken wire, zip ties, and redneck ingenuity <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/52F3E7A9-3265-44B1-A5C8-61E722D83DA0_zps81wbpkq7.jpg</a> <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/A899DA5F-098A-4603-B42A-77D7202717E9_zpsrncppyqg.jpg</a> And this is everyone coming outside for the first time. It took me longer than I wanted to finish the fence so they were stuck inside for a few weeks. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/91ACC195-94A7-4484-98A5-B986BEC9D99A_zpsel4fcvob.jpg</a> Cowboy, your run looks a lot like mine...I hate Johnsongrass.
Your inside pen is great though. Really nice looking. Good for hay. Bad for yards
Here's the inside. Still a work in progress and needs a good cleaning. <a href="http://s107.photobucket.com/user/cowboy7242001/media/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m281/cowboy7242001/F2E12B81-A6D2-44F9-985E-D2F4021F674A_zpsqo93e9w5.jpg</a> Cowboy, how did you make that door in the wall? Did you just cut it in the side of your building? Looks like it has a flap you can close. Yep! Sawzall and a big drill bit. The flap is a leftover. I wasn't 100% sure what I was doing with the door so I left it. I'm probably gonna chop it off since the automatic door is working well. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 5:40:23 PM EDT
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Out of 5 laying age birds I'm down to one egg a day
not sure if the season change or what is going on, but a little frustrating just having a bunch of freeloaders
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Posted: 10/24/2016 6:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of 5 laying age birds I'm down to one egg a day not sure if the season change or what is going on, but a little frustrating just having a bunch of freeloadersYou can give them artificial light to keep them laying, but it "burns out" the birds faster. (ETA: 12-14 hours a day of a light bulb (I like to use a daylight bulb, just because. Put the light on a timer) Winters are normally very slow for egg production if you leave them to their natural cycle |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 6:54:06 PM EDT
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Most likely due to seasonal change. You can give them artificial light to keep them laying, but it "burns out" the birds faster. (ETA: 12-14 hours a day of a light bulb (I like to use a daylight bulb, just because. Put the light on a timer) Winters are normally very slow for egg production if you leave them to their natural cycle
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Out of 5 laying age birds I'm down to one egg a day not sure if the season change or what is going on, but a little frustrating just having a bunch of freeloadersYou can give them artificial light to keep them laying, but it "burns out" the birds faster. (ETA: 12-14 hours a day of a light bulb (I like to use a daylight bulb, just because. Put the light on a timer) Winters are normally very slow for egg production if you leave them to their natural cycle
Ya, I'm afraid that's what I'm going to have to do which will suck because the tractors aren't near electricity |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 10:13:12 PM EDT
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Out of 5 laying age birds I'm down to one egg a day not sure if the season change or what is going on, but a little frustrating just having a bunch of freeloadersYou need to give them some light. A 30-watt lightbulb in a "chicken light"--this is a metal light you can get at Tractor Supply, with a guard to keep them from flying into it -- will keep them laying. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 12:16:22 AM EDT
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Just so you know, burning out thebirds is a real tthing. My batch right now just finishedrtheir 2nd full production summer, where I kept them goingboth ewinters. They are now ready for retirement, laying about 1 egg a day between all 4 if them these last few months.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 10:33:09 AM EDT
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Yes, it is real.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 10:53:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2016 11:12:02 AM EDT
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Yes, it is real. I think most people who want laying year-round plan on a two-year productive cycle for hens. Of course, for me, that means my home for geriatric chickens needs to be expanded, but a lot of folks get rid of them. They just aren't worth butchering, honestly. We're just gonna let our old birds roam the yard when their time comes. They can see the world, explore new pastures, and eat new bugs. Definitely not worth the time butchering, even just for the stock pot. They will have paid their dues with 2 years worth of eggs. Speaking of stock pots... Any of yall ever butcher some older roosters just to make broth or stock? We've got 3 huge buffs and 1 medium sized something or another that needs to go. They're about 7 months old now, so even with their size I don't think they'd be worth much in the way of meat. I'm open to suggestions though. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 11:19:06 AM EDT
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We're just gonna let our old birds roam the yard when their time comes. They can see the world, explore new pastures, and eat new bugs. Definitely not worth the time butchering, even just for the stock pot. They will have paid their dues with 2 years worth of eggs. Speaking of stock pots... Any of yall ever butcher some older roosters just to make broth or stock? We've got 3 huge buffs and 1 medium sized something or another that needs to go. They're about 7 months old now, so even with their size I don't think they'd be worth much in the way of meat. I'm open to suggestions though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, it is real. I think most people who want laying year-round plan on a two-year productive cycle for hens. Of course, for me, that means my home for geriatric chickens needs to be expanded, but a lot of folks get rid of them. They just aren't worth butchering, honestly. We're just gonna let our old birds roam the yard when their time comes. They can see the world, explore new pastures, and eat new bugs. Definitely not worth the time butchering, even just for the stock pot. They will have paid their dues with 2 years worth of eggs. Speaking of stock pots... Any of yall ever butcher some older roosters just to make broth or stock? We've got 3 huge buffs and 1 medium sized something or another that needs to go. They're about 7 months old now, so even with their size I don't think they'd be worth much in the way of meat. I'm open to suggestions though. You should be able to get decent bone broth out of those. I would not expect much from the meat. My mom made chicken & dumplins with older birds (she made squirrel & dumplins with older squirrels, too, if my dad guessed wrong about their age before he killed them.) I remember only one batch that she couldn't cook enough to get it tender, so I think you CAN defeat it. Sometimes she had to use a pressure cooker though. They just didn't waste anything when I was little. As I got older and she went to work there was a little more money (and a lot less time) so they did less of that. ETA: Are they mean? Is that why you want them gone? You can always let them free range with the older hens. They WILL put themselves between the hens and danger, which might save the hens, but it's a bad way to die...having to fight like that. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 12:04:22 PM EDT
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You should be able to get decent bone broth out of those. I would not expect much from the meat. My mom made chicken & dumplins with older birds (she made squirrel & dumplins with older squirrels, too, if my dad guessed wrong about their age before he killed them.) I remember only one batch that she couldn't cook enough to get it tender, so I think you CAN defeat it. Sometimes she had to use a pressure cooker though. They just didn't waste anything when I was little. As I got older and she went to work there was a little more money (and a lot less time) so they did less of that. ETA: Are they mean? Is that why you want them gone? You can always let them free range with the older hens. They WILL put themselves between the hens and danger, which might save the hens, but it's a bad way to die...having to fight like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, it is real. I think most people who want laying year-round plan on a two-year productive cycle for hens. Of course, for me, that means my home for geriatric chickens needs to be expanded, but a lot of folks get rid of them. They just aren't worth butchering, honestly. We're just gonna let our old birds roam the yard when their time comes. They can see the world, explore new pastures, and eat new bugs. Definitely not worth the time butchering, even just for the stock pot. They will have paid their dues with 2 years worth of eggs. Speaking of stock pots... Any of yall ever butcher some older roosters just to make broth or stock? We've got 3 huge buffs and 1 medium sized something or another that needs to go. They're about 7 months old now, so even with their size I don't think they'd be worth much in the way of meat. I'm open to suggestions though. You should be able to get decent bone broth out of those. I would not expect much from the meat. My mom made chicken & dumplins with older birds (she made squirrel & dumplins with older squirrels, too, if my dad guessed wrong about their age before he killed them.) I remember only one batch that she couldn't cook enough to get it tender, so I think you CAN defeat it. Sometimes she had to use a pressure cooker though. They just didn't waste anything when I was little. As I got older and she went to work there was a little more money (and a lot less time) so they did less of that. ETA: Are they mean? Is that why you want them gone? You can always let them free range with the older hens. They WILL put themselves between the hens and danger, which might save the hens, but it's a bad way to die...having to fight like that. They're mean to the smaller hens. We don't currently have any older hens though, so they'd be free ranging alone. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 6:01:47 PM EDT
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Yes, it is real. I think most people who want laying year-round plan on a two-year productive cycle for hens. Of course, for me, that means my home for geriatric chickens needs to be expanded, but a lot of folks get rid of them. They just aren't worth butchering, honestly. We're just gonna let our old birds roam the yard when their time comes. They can see the world, explore new pastures, and eat new bugs. Definitely not worth the time butchering, even just for the stock pot. They will have paid their dues with 2 years worth of eggs. Speaking of stock pots... Any of yall ever butcher some older roosters just to make broth or stock? We've got 3 huge buffs and 1 medium sized something or another that needs to go. They're about 7 months old now, so even with their size I don't think they'd be worth much in the way of meat. I'm open to suggestions though. You should be able to get decent bone broth out of those. I would not expect much from the meat. My mom made chicken & dumplins with older birds (she made squirrel & dumplins with older squirrels, too, if my dad guessed wrong about their age before he killed them.) I remember only one batch that she couldn't cook enough to get it tender, so I think you CAN defeat it. Sometimes she had to use a pressure cooker though. They just didn't waste anything when I was little. As I got older and she went to work there was a little more money (and a lot less time) so they did less of that. ETA: Are they mean? Is that why you want them gone? You can always let them free range with the older hens. They WILL put themselves between the hens and danger, which might save the hens, but it's a bad way to die...having to fight like that. They're mean to the smaller hens. We don't currently have any older hens though, so they'd be free ranging alone. Oh. Yeah, I'd be inclined to turn them into soup, too. |
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Posted: 10/26/2016 2:32:10 AM EDT
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I attempted to process/ butcher one of our older laying hens and never again. Way to much work for what you get out of it. Huge looking bird on the feather, but all said and done it equals about one of those small rotisserie birds you can get at Walmart ready to eat. Only difference is the laying bird cooked like a thanksgiving bird was like trying to eat chicken beef jerky... Not worth the effort.
I think free ranching natural selection is the way to go with layers. Of course the predators never seem to get the ones that need to go
--- A couple of my barred rocks are starting to molt. They are getting put into isolation until they start to regrow feathers, one its cold out, two I don't want the other birds to start pecking at them... Any suggestions other then separation? --- Stupid predators got two this past week. Council Tool Hudson Bay rules the roost. Hard to get out of a coop that only has one door. 
--- Between a recent bear attack, and now hawk attack, my last few adults seem pretty stressed. I guess that's the life of a chicken. We have 15 chicks growing up, so come spring we should be back to good numbers.
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Posted: 10/30/2016 7:57:57 PM EDT
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Built a small, but very basic coop today. This is secondary to our primary. It will be used to separate any birds that need to be left alone for a while, or for raising new chicks. Right now one of our molting barred rocks is going to spend a couple weeks on her own as she was getting pecked at by the others:
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Posted: 10/30/2016 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Had time to butcher 4 roosters today.
I need a tub plucker. It takes me 20 minutes per bird, 15 of that plucking Well, for next year anyway. Have 30 more to do for this year. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 12:21:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had time to butcher 4 roosters today. I need a tub plucker. It takes me 20 minutes per bird, 15 of that plucking Well, for next year anyway. Have 30 more to do for this year. Did 3 more last night before I ran out of daylight. At this rate, I have 2 more weeks of this! Seriously thinking of making a quick tub plucker. I could be getting a bird every 5-6 minutes done instead of ever 20-25 minutes . Also need an automatic filling/heating scalding pot badly. There is 5 minutes of waste in getting the water temp just right for every bird using the turkey burner.I've always had family out in the past to help do this (and they did plucking, I did processing), but I didn't want to bring out my plucker on the drill I have setup (horrible mess), and the cost of the help was starting to exceed its worth (help was in exchange for some birds). Since this weekend is dedicated to brush hog work, cementing in corner posts, and cleaning out and making changes in the barn, I can't take a whole day to process chickens. Think I am off to order plucking fingers.... |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 1:58:26 PM EDT
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What is everyone using for winter to keep water from freezing? I am looking at getting something this weekend and would like to know what works best and is least likely to cause a fire
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Posted: 11/2/2016 3:08:27 PM EDT
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What is everyone using for winter to keep water from freezing? I am looking at getting something this weekend and would like to know what works best and is least likely to cause a fire I just used a bird bath heater. Low-tech.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 4:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is everyone using for winter to keep water from freezing? I am looking at getting something this weekend and would like to know what works best and is least likely to cause a fire 5 gallon bucket with chicken nipples in the bottom, submersible de-icer. Keeps water liquid down to as cold as we have ever gotten here. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 1:33:26 AM EDT
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What is everyone using for winter to keep water from freezing? I am looking at getting something this weekend and would like to know what works best and is least likely to cause a fire 5 gallon bucket with chicken nipples in the bottom, submersible de-icer. Keeps water liquid down to as cold as we have ever gotten here. We just use a heated water dish. |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 3:50:09 PM EDT
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can I get ya'lls input on the finishing out of my chicken coupe. its 8' wide 6' deep metal, with small raise able windows on the ends.
2" tube frame. 3 ft people door. thoughts about the perchs or roost area/ height nesting boxes size and material. what wall. my thoughts are to put the nesting boxes on the 8' wall opposite the man door, sorry girls , people door bout 3 ft high so no stooping to gather the eggs. I have seen a pole or roost just a few inches in front of the boxes, I hope it will make it easier for them to get in the boxes and keep them from sitting on the lip of the boxes and crapping the box full! not sure on the main roost or the height and number of openings. thanks in advance there are 13 or so birds |
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Posted: 11/3/2016 9:06:08 PM EDT
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can I get ya'lls input on the finishing out of my chicken coupe. its 8' wide 6' deep metal, with small raise able windows on the ends. 2" tube frame. 3 ft people door. thoughts about the perchs or roost area/ height nesting boxes size and material. what wall. my thoughts are to put the nesting boxes on the 8' wall opposite the man door, sorry girls , people door bout 3 ft high so no stooping to gather the eggs. I have seen a pole or roost just a few inches in front of the boxes, I hope it will make it easier for them to get in the boxes and keep them from sitting on the lip of the boxes and crapping the box full! not sure on the main roost or the height and number of openings. thanks in advance there are 13 or so birds I'm confused. If the people door is only 3' high, you have to stoop to just get in. What am I missing? I might put a roost about half way up to your nest box, but I wouldn't put one right in front of it. They need to go in there, do their business, and get out. It is my instinct that the extra roost will be detrimental for a couple of reasons. 1-the dominant hens will have a good place to hang out and bully the low-end hens as they try to go in to lay. 2-Watching another hen lay eggs, and having a convenient way to hang out and watch the nests gives chickens time and room to form ideas. Ideas like...Wow, look at how the light hits that thing that other hen put there. I think I'll peck that. Especially since that other hen laid it. She's lower on the order than I am. Yeah, I think I'll just peck the hell out of that and find out what it's made of. OH! Wow! That tastes good! Are there any more ovoid white or brown objects I can peck and get yummy out of? I could be dead wrong, and other chicken people should feel free to disagree with this. But that's my gut instinct about the roost next to the boxes. If they have plenty of roosts at varied heights (it's nice if you give them some "stepped" ones. It's hard enough to hit a pole four feet in the air when it's damn near dark.) they will be happier. Some intermittent roosting poles are really helpful. AND it allows for the low chickens to not get shoved off into the floor. You always have to consider the pecking order. You cannot avoid it. ETA: If you can put a metal, sloped roof on your nesting box (steep slope. I will figure out what mine is if you need a measurement or visual) you will keep them from roosting on top of the nest box. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:27:51 PM EDT
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Keep your roosts higher than the nest boxes. Chickens will typically try to get as high up as they can to roost. The dominant birds go to the top and the underlings tend to go to the lower roosts. If your nest boxes are higher than the lowest roost often times they will sleep/shit in there.
I only have 4 birds but I have two heights of roosts, the lowest one you can see to the left of the picture, the highest one is in front of me when I took the pic. The two roosts are only 3-4" different in height but that's enough. 
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Posted: 11/4/2016 12:34:36 PM EDT
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My son pulled this egg yesterday, never seen anything like it. Anyone know what the cause might be? All the birds look/act fine.
Not the best pictures, sorry. 
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Posted: 11/4/2016 1:31:57 PM EDT
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfRMeU6pQ8[/youtube]
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Posted: 11/4/2016 2:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My son pulled this egg yesterday, never seen anything like it. Anyone know what the cause might be? All the birds look/act fine. Not the best pictures, sorry. http://i.imgur.com/t1iAQBf.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/1hif3GR.jpg Don't see an issue in the pic, perhaps shell not perfectly smooth? I wouldn't worry, but make sure they have choice calcium and a complete diet feed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 2:47:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2016 3:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a rough surface, just a crap picture. They are on layer feed and have crushed oyster shell available as well. Maybe it was just an anomaly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My son pulled this egg yesterday, never seen anything like it. Anyone know what the cause might be? All the birds look/act fine. Not the best pictures, sorry. http://i.imgur.com/t1iAQBf.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/1hif3GR.jpg I wouldn't worry, but make sure they have choice calcium and a complete diet feed. It's a rough surface, just a crap picture. They are on layer feed and have crushed oyster shell available as well. Maybe it was just an anomaly. Natural products have anomalies. You have to remember that the fresh food you get in the store (like eggs, produce, etc) are only the best of the best, and a VERY HIGH percentage that isn't ascetically perfect are turned into processed products. And don't freak out when there is a spot of blood in an egg. Happens. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 3:38:05 PM EDT
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good point about the bullying and the perch just outside the boxes.
the people door is an normal home door. 36 wide or 3.0 metal. the coup outta outlast me and the idea bout the differing heights make sense as well. like the poop proofing roof to the nest boxes as well.!! thanks |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 9:26:50 PM EDT
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My son pulled this egg yesterday, never seen anything like it. Anyone know what the cause might be? All the birds look/act fine. Not the best pictures, sorry. http://i.imgur.com/t1iAQBf.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/1hif3GR.jpg Is it just a rough shell? That happens sometimes. No worries.
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Posted: 11/4/2016 9:30:46 PM EDT
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good point about the bullying and the perch just outside the boxes. the people door is an normal home door. 36 wide or 3.0 metal. the coup outta outlast me and the idea bout the differing heights make sense as well. like the poop proofing roof to the nest boxes as well.!! thanks Keeping them away from the nest boxes when they are not busy laying is ALWAYS a good idea. Once you have an egg-eating chicken, you have a problem that will go away only if you kill that chicken (usually)
With a smaller operation where you depend on each hen to lay her share, it's bad to have one turn out that way. Harder to replace than in an operation with a hundred layers. Chickens are not, by nature, socially nice. We have to encourage them to be nicer.
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Posted: 11/7/2016 12:24:55 PM EDT
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Hard work pays off:
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Posted: 11/7/2016 2:12:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/7/2016 2:16:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice! Sorry I had to quote the "beast meat" as it made me LOL. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So much beast meat,... Very nice! Sorry I had to quote the "beast meat" as it made me LOL.  stupid auto correct |
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Posted: 11/14/2016 5:10:52 PM EDT
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Is anyone here up for a video of my one-man chicken slaughter assembly line? I've got it down to 1 chicken every 12 minutes on average, with no tub plucker or automatic scalding pot.
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Posted: 11/14/2016 8:31:17 PM EDT
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Is anyone here up for a video of my one-man chicken slaughter assembly line? I've got it down to 1 chicken every 12 minutes on average, with no tub plucker or automatic scalding pot. Reason I ask is that chicken butchering videos are kind of done to death on youtube. OK, maybe a bad pun there
Your videos are always excellent. Just don't make it autoplay.
Kitties has gotten soft in her years away from the farm. 
OR...even better...do a separate thread??? That would be way easier to link to, and might spark a whole nuther set of questions from folks who would not want to read all the way through this thread. (I still have illusions of doing an index thread.  )
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