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Posted: 6/13/2015 9:55:13 AM EDT
I was reading LTCetme's thread on "Something is eating my bean plants" and I realised we have a lot of knowledge spread around a bunch of different threads on what to do for which pests. I decided I would start a new thread where we can gather our tips and tricks for dealing with various garden problems.
Here is my contribution: Slugs: Small holes in plants - you can check by going out either at night or early morning and just looking -should be able to see the slugs. 1. Sprinkle diotomacious earth around the plants - expensive and needs to be re-applied after rain, but it works. The tiny particles are sharp enough to cut up the slugs, but won't hurt people. 2. Sprinke broken eggshells around your plants - free and provides calcium to your soil - I have found it slightly less effective, but hey, it's free. It works like the D.E by cutting up the slugs. 3. Copper tape - this is expensive and only works if you have a pot or your raised bed has a smooth continuous edge you can apply it to. It works by shocking the slugs and the real benefit is you only have to do it once. 4. Put a board on the ground for them to hide under then in the morning flip it over and kill, kill, kill. 5. Bury a bowl to the rim and fill it with beer, aka a "beer trap" - slugs smell the beer, crawl in and drown. (thanks kitties-with-sigs for reminding me of this one - I usually forget because I don't want to lose the beer!) Japanese beetles: small iridescent beetles with white spots along the abdomen. You can tell you have them because they are rolling around in piles all over your plants, fornicating like mad while eating everything in sight. They can strip a plant in a day or two so don't wait until the weekend to handle this one. 1. Sevin - works like a charm, but you have to re-spray if it rains. 2. Chickens. Enough said. 3. Go out in early morning when they are still somewhat groggy and knock them into a bucket of soapy water. I have no chickens to try this with, but you might want to try then washing them, and feeding them to the chickens as a protien supplement. According to chicken owners they do get bored with this as a constant diet, so maybe freeze the extra and feed over time? If you have an aquaponics bed you may also be able to feed them to the fish (not positive) 4. Neem does NOT work. note: They supposedly can bite, though I never have had one bite me. I wouldn't suggest picking one up and playing with it. Stink bugs: Greyish, shield-shaped bugs that stink if you crush them. Adolescents are white. Eggs are small, shield-shaped, copper-colored and usually layed several at a time on the underside of leaves. 1. According to TRG fabreeze new zealand scent works although I haven't tried it. (thanks TRG). 2. A bit of dishwashing soap in water works, but if you make it too strong you will burn your plants. I usually make some up and test it on a small area before spraying the whole garden. 3. Sevin and neem do NOT seem to work. 4. Crushing them works but smells. A LOT. Not recommended. 5. You can pull the eggs off the leaves with duct tape. 6. Yellow bowl mostly buried with soapy water in it. Yellow attracts them, and they drown in the soapy water. Squash vine borers: Small black wasps with a red v stripe that lay their eggs on the stem of vining plants. They eggs hatch, burrow in, and eat the stem out. You can tell you have them when A. Your lovely vibrant squash plants wilts and dies overnight and/or B. You see what looks like sawdust (called frass) at the base of the plants. Both symptoms show usually way too late to save the plant. 1. Inject the stem with bt once a week at 1cc (trying this this year, not sure if it will work.) 2. Yellow bowl mostly buried with soapy water in it. Yellow attracts them, and they drown in the soapy water. 3. Bury the stems at intervals for things like pumpkins. They will root where they are buried, adding resiliency. 4. Plant things like butternut squash instead, that they don't like as much. 5. Slit the stem where you see the frass, cut out the grubs, re-bury the stem and hope. 6. Spray the stem with sevin once a week and hope you catch the grubs before they burrow into the stem. Please respond and add your tips/trick for dealing with garden pests. |
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Squash vine borers: I gave up. Tried most everything. Now I wait till they destroy the first plantings and come right back behind with new plantings. Once the lady lays her first eggs she doesn't lay anymore so the second planting usually will survive. I do split the dead and dying stems and kill the grubs.
Stinkers: A spray mist bottle with alcohol works if you have the time. Squirt once and they die. Japs: Like said above knock them into a bucket of soap or lysol. Or have fun with a rubber bank between your fingers..... |
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Flea beetles: dust with sevin every few days until you don't see anymore. Little bastards will destroy a garden crop in a day or two be merciless on them
Gophers: traps that kill, don't waste your time with gum, smoke bombs, or poison (poison works but I don't want that shit in my ground and don't want to kill other animals) |
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Slugs: 5. Bury a bowl to the rim and fill it with beer, aka a "beer trap" - slugs smell the beer, crawl in and drown. (thanks kitties-with-sigs for reminding me of this one - I usually forget because I don't want to lose the beer!) View Quote Save your beer! Recipe for slug traps: 1 cup water 1 teaspoon flour 1 teaspoon sugar 1/2 teaspoon yeast Mix ingredients and pour into traps. If you place them on a level spot on the ground, shallow lids like those on sour cream containers work well as traps. Put a small rock in the middle to keep it from blowing away, though. |
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Tomato Hornworms
When you see giant green caterpillars (pick these off) on your tomato plants or just small black droppings around your tomato plant, dust or spray with Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis). Supposed to work on other leaf-eating caterpillars, too, like cabbage worms. |
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Save your beer! Recipe for slug traps: 1 cup water 1 teaspoon flour 1 teaspoon sugar 1/2 teaspoon yeast Mix ingredients and pour into traps. If you place them on a level spot on the ground, shallow lids like those on sour cream containers work well as traps. Put a small rock in the middle to keep it from blowing away, though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Slugs: 5. Bury a bowl to the rim and fill it with beer, aka a "beer trap" - slugs smell the beer, crawl in and drown. (thanks kitties-with-sigs for reminding me of this one - I usually forget because I don't want to lose the beer!) Save your beer! Recipe for slug traps: 1 cup water 1 teaspoon flour 1 teaspoon sugar 1/2 teaspoon yeast Mix ingredients and pour into traps. If you place them on a level spot on the ground, shallow lids like those on sour cream containers work well as traps. Put a small rock in the middle to keep it from blowing away, though. Or use Bud Light. No loss. *ducks flying fruit* |
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Hey y'all, an idea...
Can you find photos of the pests you are talking about? Or a link to how they look? And edit that into your posts? I'm thinking that would help the new gardeners. For instance, I don't have a clue about flea beetles. Wouldn't know one if I saw one, nor would I know what kind of damage they do. Apparently we don't have those. Thank God (and knock on wood). kitties |
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I just killed and removed stink bugs (squash bugs) and their eggs off of my squash plants this weekend. I haven't been paying close attention to them. I noticed the leaves starting to brown and yellow. Bugs and eggs are just as you described OP.
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I have started using scrap copper wire to make loops that I place around the plants for slugs. They may not sit perfectly flat on the ground but any barrier is a barrier.
I have also found this product: Ortho Bug-Geta2 Ortho has two products with the same name other than the 2 at the end. The other product is nasty and has an extensive warning label so I never used it. If you are dealing with chipmunks or red squirrels then this is your answer: Kill em all I had four in my garden last year baited with peanut butter and I am sure I killed 30 or more chipmunks and a couple of red squirrels. |
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I have started using scrap copper wire to make loops that I place around the plants for slugs. They may not sit perfectly flat on the ground but any barrier is a barrier. I have also found this product: Ortho Bug-Geta2 Ortho has two products with the same name other than the 2 at the end. The other product is nasty and has an extensive warning label so I never used it. If you are dealing with chipmunks or red squirrels then this is your answer: Kill em all I had four in my garden last year baited with peanut butter and I am sure I killed 30 or more chipmunks and a couple of red squirrels. View Quote Just out of curiosity, what part of your garden did the squirrels destroy? (Asking because other than sweet corn, squirrels don't really attack gardens here, and they've never been a significant problem even with the corn. So am interested in what they harm for you.) |
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Just out of curiosity, what part of your garden did the squirrels destroy? (Asking because other than sweet corn, squirrels don't really attack gardens here, and they've never been a significant problem even with the corn. So am interested in what they harm for you.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have started using scrap copper wire to make loops that I place around the plants for slugs. They may not sit perfectly flat on the ground but any barrier is a barrier. I have also found this product: Ortho Bug-Geta2 Ortho has two products with the same name other than the 2 at the end. The other product is nasty and has an extensive warning label so I never used it. If you are dealing with chipmunks or red squirrels then this is your answer: Kill em all I had four in my garden last year baited with peanut butter and I am sure I killed 30 or more chipmunks and a couple of red squirrels. Just out of curiosity, what part of your garden did the squirrels destroy? (Asking because other than sweet corn, squirrels don't really attack gardens here, and they've never been a significant problem even with the corn. So am interested in what they harm for you.) I was actually targeting the chipmunks because they will dig up seeds and just randomly taking bites out of the tomatoes. The red squirrels have caused issues for me by getting into my attic and for a neighbor by doing similar to his garage. They don't bother with the garden but they are generally a pest. |
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Quoted: Hey y'all, an idea... Can you find photos of the pests you are talking about? Or a link to how they look? And edit that into your posts? I'm thinking that would help the new gardeners. For instance, I don't have a clue about flea beetles. Wouldn't know one if I saw one, nor would I know what kind of damage they do. Apparently we don't have those. Thank God (and knock on wood). kitties View Quote Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! |
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Not necessarily a pest but a problem that a lot of us will encounter is Downey/ Powdery Mildew.
My remedy that has been very successful is to add a tablespoon full of yogurt to a spray bottle of milk and spray the plants. It works wonders. |
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Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg</a> I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hey y'all, an idea... Can you find photos of the pests you are talking about? Or a link to how they look? And edit that into your posts? I'm thinking that would help the new gardeners. For instance, I don't have a clue about flea beetles. Wouldn't know one if I saw one, nor would I know what kind of damage they do. Apparently we don't have those. Thank God (and knock on wood). kitties Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg</a> I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! What are you doing taking pictures in my garden? If the devil had children, they'd be it! We've been using pyretherin too which works well but about every 5 days or so they're back. The morning after a rain or watering we notice more activity. How about you? |
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Squash vine borers: I gave up. Tried most everything. Now I wait till they destroy the first plantings and come right back behind with new plantings. Once the lady lays her first eggs she doesn't lay anymore so the second planting usually will survive. I do split the dead and dying stems and kill the grubs. <snip>... View Quote I found something that worked if I stayed on top of it. I dusted the ground AROUND the plant, and the bases of the stalks with sevin. Of course, I had to keep doing that...and any time it rained I had to get right straight back out there. It took more stamina than I had, and I finally gave up. Think I will try your "let it die and follow up" method. Really hard to watch the plants get up to size and keel over. I grew up gardening, and when I was a kid, I don't EVER remember parents or grandparents having issues with these borers. They are the bane of my existence now. |
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Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg</a> I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hey y'all, an idea... Can you find photos of the pests you are talking about? Or a link to how they look? And edit that into your posts? I'm thinking that would help the new gardeners. For instance, I don't have a clue about flea beetles. Wouldn't know one if I saw one, nor would I know what kind of damage they do. Apparently we don't have those. Thank God (and knock on wood). kitties Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg</a> I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! Nope, don't have them. *typing one-handed so I can knock on my wooden table as I type this.* |
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Quoted: What are you doing taking pictures in my garden? If the devil had children, they'd be it! We've been using pyretherin too which works well but about every 5 days or so they're back. The morning after a rain or watering we notice more activity. How about you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hey y'all, an idea... Can you find photos of the pests you are talking about? Or a link to how they look? And edit that into your posts? I'm thinking that would help the new gardeners. For instance, I don't have a clue about flea beetles. Wouldn't know one if I saw one, nor would I know what kind of damage they do. Apparently we don't have those. Thank God (and knock on wood). kitties Oh I can help fill in the blanks on flea beetles... unfortunately! Making lace out of my egg plant seedlings: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123749_zpsn8cqhvmm.jpg</a> <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/20150618_123842_zpsuyaemy5j.jpg</a> I even knocked them back with pyretherin three times! I can't believe you don't have them, giving their abundance here... but no worries - keep checking your mailbox for mine - I'm done with them! What are you doing taking pictures in my garden? If the devil had children, they'd be it! We've been using pyretherin too which works well but about every 5 days or so they're back. The morning after a rain or watering we notice more activity. How about you? Yes, that is the same pattern I'm seeing. I'm sure I could control them on the egg plants if I committed to keeping them sprayed - but I hate using pesticides in the garden, especially those that threaten my bees. I've got some new seedlings started - I'm going to try keeping them covered until they can put on enough size to hopefully deal with beetles. |
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I was visiting some family this last weekend and they had the best looking cucumbers, pepper, and tomatoes. I asked what they were doing and he told me he took whole milk and mixed it 60/40 water and foilar sprayed. Did it during the heat of the day so the proteins in the milk would bind to the leaves. He said it will also help repel insects. |
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Tag. I was visiting some family this last weekend and they had the best looking cucumbers, pepper, and tomatoes. I asked what they were doing and he told me he took whole milk and mixed it 60/40 water and foilar sprayed. Did it during the heat of the day so the proteins in the milk would bind to the leaves. He said it will also help repel insects. View Quote Are you saying they mixed 60/40 milk/water? Or 60/40 water/milk? |
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Tag. I was visiting some family this last weekend and they had the best looking cucumbers, pepper, and tomatoes. I asked what they were doing and he told me he took whole milk and mixed it 60/40 milk/water and foilar sprayed. Did it during the heat of the day so the proteins in the milk would bind to the leaves. He said it will also help repel insects. Are you saying they mixed 60/40 milk/water? Or 60/40 water/milk? fixed |
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This may seem counterintuitive but foliar feeding sugar or molasses will drive a lot of bugs off. Most bugs have a hard time processing high sugar concentrations and will leave for something more appealing.
For a bonus it is bee friendly and a great energy source for the plants. |
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I am really happy to see this thread taking off. Does anybody know what might be eating my peppers? I ran into this last year - some foliage damage but mostly they eat the fruit, starting at the stem end. I never did find the culprits, and heat levels in the peppers do not seem to deter whatever it is at all.
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I am really happy to see this thread taking off. Does anybody know what might be eating my peppers? I ran into this last year - some foliage damage but mostly they eat the fruit, starting at the stem end. I never did find the culprits, and heat levels in the peppers do not seem to deter whatever it is at all. View Quote pics? Is it eating? Or is it rot? |
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I am not sure - I will try to get pics today.
On a different note I just watched a bunch of slug experiments using copper tape, copper wire, eggshells, coffee grounds, and beer. Video tests: Copper tape/wire. They hesitated and clearly didn't like it, but they crossed it anyway. Eggshells/coffee grounds - crossed anyway. Beer - effective in about a 3 foot radius, but a number will still find their way out. Other research information with no videos: Iron phospate slug bait - works and it non-toxic to other things. metaldehyde - old-style chemical bait. It works but it's toxic and can be attractive to dogs which eat it and then have problems. Watering in the morning instead of the evening is supposed to reduce damage by as much as 60%. This also reduces your likelihood of getting fungus on your plants, so it's a better choice all round. Hand picking - effective but labor intensive and nasty. All in all I would go with iron phosphate slug bait and watering in the morning instead of afternoon. |
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I am not sure - I will try to get pics today. On a different note I just watched a bunch of slug experiments using copper tape, copper wire, eggshells, coffee grounds, and beer. Video tests: Copper tape/wire. They hesitated and clearly didn't like it, but they crossed it anyway. Eggshells/coffee grounds - crossed anyway. Beer - effective in about a 3 foot radius, but a number will still find their way out. Other research information with no videos: Iron phospate slug bait - works and it non-toxic to other things. metaldehyde - old-style chemical bait. It works but it's toxic and can be attractive to dogs which eat it and then have problems. Watering in the morning instead of the evening is supposed to reduce damage by as much as 60%. This also reduces your likelihood of getting fungus on your plants, so it's a better choice all round. Hand picking - effective but labor intensive and nasty. All in all I would go with iron phosphate slug bait and watering in the morning instead of afternoon. View Quote The slugs cross eggshells, but the expected effect is that they get cut, then shrivel up and die. It doesn't repel them in any way. It's sort of barbaric really...all those cuts to their slimy little bodies. |
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The pepper plant damage. These are the worst of the damaged leaves. Now that I look closer it may be a pest on the leaves and a fungus on the fruit... <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/062115C_zpserrkjmap.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/062115C_zpserrkjmap.jpg</a> Fruit damage: <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/062115B_zpsrjgfrgwb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/062115B_zpsrjgfrgwb.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am really happy to see this thread taking off. Does anybody know what might be eating my peppers? I ran into this last year - some foliage damage but mostly they eat the fruit, starting at the stem end. I never did find the culprits, and heat levels in the peppers do not seem to deter whatever it is at all. pics? Is it eating? Or is it rot? The pepper plant damage. These are the worst of the damaged leaves. Now that I look closer it may be a pest on the leaves and a fungus on the fruit... <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/062115C_zpserrkjmap.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/062115C_zpserrkjmap.jpg</a> Fruit damage: <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/062115B_zpsrjgfrgwb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/062115B_zpsrjgfrgwb.jpg</a> Only an educated guess here...but that looks like two different problems. I could be wrong. The foliar damage looks a whole helluva lot like toacco/tomato hornworm. It could be that they're eating on the peppers and the fruit is turning black, but I don't have any experience with that. Lift up the leaves and look closely. Look at the stems leading up to the leaves. They are professional camouflage artists. But that REALLY looks like hornworm damage on the leaves. The fruit...I don't know. You know what hornworms look like? OH...and if they have little white eggs all over them, pull them off and move them to something that does not matter. Let them live. Those are wasp eggs, and we WANT more of those little wasps. They feed on the pests. If you don't know, say so and I'll find images. The other thing that eats in patterns like that is grasshoppers. But it looks like hornworm. |
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Only an educated guess here...but that looks like two different problems. I could be wrong. The foliar damage looks a whole helluva lot like toacco/tomato hornworm. It could be that they're eating on the peppers and the fruit is turning black, but I don't have any experience with that. Lift up the leaves and look closely. Look at the stems leading up to the leaves. They are professional camouflage artists. But that REALLY looks like hornworm damage on the leaves. The fruit...I don't know. You know what hornworms look like? OH...and if they have little white eggs all over them, pull them off and move them to something that does not matter. Let them live. Those are wasp eggs, and we WANT more of those little wasps. They feed on the pests. If you don't know, say so and I'll find images. The other thing that eats in patterns like that is grasshoppers. But it looks like hornworm. View Quote I believe you are correct in the 2 different problems. I can identify tomato hornworms, but thanks for the pic offer. If they are just hiding the pepper plants can #@%$!! well turn their head and cough if that's what it takes to find them. I'm sure they'll get over the indignity eventually. Looking online the fruit issue may be the month of rain - whole month without rain - heavy rain -2 weeks without rain. Even with watering it is no where near what we get when it lets loose around here. The soil has plenty of calcium, and the tomatoes are not showing signs of any issues though. They are also susceptible to sunburn, apparently, and it looks similar. We are at 2 weeks straight of 100 or nearly 100 degrees with no rain, and they get almost 10 hours of sun this time of year. |
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I believe you are correct in the 2 different problems. I can identify tomato hornworms, but thanks for the pic offer. If they are just hiding the pepper plants can #@%$!! well turn their head and cough if that's what it takes to find them. I'm sure they'll get over the indignity eventually. Looking online the fruit issue may be the month of rain - whole month without rain - heavy rain -2 weeks without rain. Even with watering it is no where near what we get when it lets loose around here. The soil has plenty of calcium, and the tomatoes are not showing signs of any issues though. They are also susceptible to sunburn, apparently, and it looks similar. We are at 2 weeks straight of 100 or nearly 100 degrees with no rain, and they get almost 10 hours of sun this time of year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Only an educated guess here...but that looks like two different problems. I could be wrong. The foliar damage looks a whole helluva lot like toacco/tomato hornworm. It could be that they're eating on the peppers and the fruit is turning black, but I don't have any experience with that. Lift up the leaves and look closely. Look at the stems leading up to the leaves. They are professional camouflage artists. But that REALLY looks like hornworm damage on the leaves. The fruit...I don't know. You know what hornworms look like? OH...and if they have little white eggs all over them, pull them off and move them to something that does not matter. Let them live. Those are wasp eggs, and we WANT more of those little wasps. They feed on the pests. If you don't know, say so and I'll find images. The other thing that eats in patterns like that is grasshoppers. But it looks like hornworm. I believe you are correct in the 2 different problems. I can identify tomato hornworms, but thanks for the pic offer. If they are just hiding the pepper plants can #@%$!! well turn their head and cough if that's what it takes to find them. I'm sure they'll get over the indignity eventually. Looking online the fruit issue may be the month of rain - whole month without rain - heavy rain -2 weeks without rain. Even with watering it is no where near what we get when it lets loose around here. The soil has plenty of calcium, and the tomatoes are not showing signs of any issues though. They are also susceptible to sunburn, apparently, and it looks similar. We are at 2 weeks straight of 100 or nearly 100 degrees with no rain, and they get almost 10 hours of sun this time of year. I will be very interested in whether the weather patterns are at fault. I guess it's the pessimist in me...or maybe it's the girl who grew up gardening at her grandmother's and father's knees. My eyebrow is raised, but gently. There is always insane weather. That's the thing that a few decades of gardening finally causes to sink in. People are always yelling about the crazy weather, but a "normal" year (one where we get just the right amounts of everything, just when we need them) is generally the exception to the rule. But peppers are not something I've ever seen have trouble. My Vo-Ag cash crop projects for four straight years in high school were bell peppers. Acres and acres of them. Granted, that's been *cough* way too damn *cough* many years, but peppers were relatively forgiving at that time. (Gads, I hate picking peppers. Give me a tobacco crop any day.) I can tell you that heat--and that much sun--won't do it, unless you've got a weak varietal. I'm by no means a pepper expert,and don't know about the roller coaster wet/dry. Don't grow many at all now. (want to get into more, since I use the medium-hot peppers in high numbers for cooking now) but that's just...odd. I wish I had help to offer. And if you take that to extension to ask, please let us know. |
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On the pepper picture it looks like a tiny hole on bottom right where the stem meets the fruit. I have had earwigs do that and nest inside the fruit and it starts to rot from the inside. Look closely at your other peppers and if you find another one cut it open and see what is inside.
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Have been fortunate this year to have the time to pick bugs both early and late in the day but still missed many. Squash bugs hatching http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/squash20bug20egg20hatch_zpskeaz3w79.jpg About 4 days old http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/squash20bug20eggs_zpskxexfsmy.jpg A slightly older batch http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/squash20bug20mid20life_zpszt5jy2eb.jpg What are you guys doing for these, spaying or hand picking? We've only hand picked but it's a lot of leaves to look at twice a day! View Quote Wow, 8 minutes..... I can believe it though, based on the way they darn near defoliated a couple of my plants overnight. And looking for them on the tomatoes is an hour a day if I do a thorough job, though once I knocked them back a little, it's not taking as long. Don't have the squash bugs yet (knocking on wood, hoping I don't go down there and find them this evening). I figure soap will do fine on them when they're small, though I'm not certain of that. |
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Speaking of hornworms.. Pulled these and about five others off of my tomatoes today. Poor tomatoes. http://www.fototime.com/54D06E6687966E3/standard.jpg View Quote When I see those I toss the entire tomato (worm and all) to the chickens. Worm is INSTANTLY gone - Tomato gets gone soon thereafter. (Chickens LOVE tomatoes) Nothing gets wasted around here. |
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Aaaaaaand the Japanese Beetles arrived today.
Good times. It's official...hornworms r us. But honestly it's the severe storms headed our way that worries me more. We'll see what's left by midweek. kitties |
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Speak of the devils. Apparently they added eggplant to their menu this year. Last year they didn't touch them http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/42d3c808-2286-4e95-afc0-afe4797d908d_zpsstqfp3yz.jpg Prior to the Japanese beetles the flea beetles pressed the eggplants hard and an occasional colorado potato beetle would show up. http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/flea20beetle20on20eggplant_zpsg9epo2pt.jpg http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/eggplant20potato_zpsekwjpa4m.jpg View Quote Are you doing anything to fight them? I will likely need to know. It will be my turn in the next day or two... |
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Speak of the devils. Apparently they added eggplant to their menu this year. Last year they didn't touch them http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/42d3c808-2286-4e95-afc0-afe4797d908d_zpsstqfp3yz.jpg Prior to the Japanese beetles the flea beetles pressed the eggplants hard and an occasional colorado potato beetle would show up. http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/flea20beetle20on20eggplant_zpsg9epo2pt.jpg http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/eggplant20potato_zpsekwjpa4m.jpg Are you doing anything to fight them? I will likely need to know. It will be my turn in the next day or two... Nothing biological, just knocking them into a cup of soapy water whenever possible. Sometimes it feels futile but I guess in the big picture it's disrupting the feeding enough to get the plants through this hatch. We're actually considering spreading some "milky spore" to see if that is truly effective in reducing their numbers.??? |
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Nothing biological, just knocking them into a cup of soapy water whenever possible. Sometimes it feels futile but I guess in the big picture it's disrupting the feeding enough to get the plants through this hatch. We're actually considering spreading some "milky spore" to see if that is truly effective in reducing their numbers.??? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Speak of the devils. Apparently they added eggplant to their menu this year. Last year they didn't touch them http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/42d3c808-2286-4e95-afc0-afe4797d908d_zpsstqfp3yz.jpg Prior to the Japanese beetles the flea beetles pressed the eggplants hard and an occasional colorado potato beetle would show up. http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/flea20beetle20on20eggplant_zpsg9epo2pt.jpg http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/bill431/eggplant20potato_zpsekwjpa4m.jpg Are you doing anything to fight them? I will likely need to know. It will be my turn in the next day or two... Nothing biological, just knocking them into a cup of soapy water whenever possible. Sometimes it feels futile but I guess in the big picture it's disrupting the feeding enough to get the plants through this hatch. We're actually considering spreading some "milky spore" to see if that is truly effective in reducing their numbers.??? I've considered that, but never done it. The trouble is the damn things can fly. So unless I treat the entire world, not sure how effective it will be. STILL...they would certainly have a range. I just don't know what it is. (I'm not as much of a bug girl as I should be, considering my focus on plants). I'd love to know what you do--how widely you spread it and how effective it is as a correlation. I think it would take more than one year of experiments to decide whether it worked. |
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I've got this idea in my mind about the hornworms and "companion planting."
The only thing I've ever seen that a hornworm likes as much as it likes tomatoes is... tobacco. I wonder if I plant a tobacco plant or three near the tomatoes, if the hornworm moth will "choose" that rather than the tomatoes, and/or if the worms will gravitate toward the tobacco. I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, as anybody who grew up raising Burley for a living knows how much the hornworms like it. I just don't have answers to the questions, which is why I'm thinking out loud here.. a-do they like it MORE than they like tomatoes? b-would they "choose" the sacrificial tobacco, saving the tomatoes? or c-would the tobacco just draw more to the garden? Just pondering.. |
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Does anybody know what these are? They are partying down on my eggplant, and I have found some on my tomatoes as well. I have tried sevin and soapy water, and so far neither seems to have appreciably reduced their numbers. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg</a> View Quote Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm |
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Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does anybody know what these are? They are partying down on my eggplant, and I have found some on my tomatoes as well. I have tried sevin and soapy water, and so far neither seems to have appreciably reduced their numbers. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg</a> Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm Thanks for the prompt answer. I wish the answer was different, but thanks for the answer. :( Any idea why the soapy water works for shield-shaped stink bugs but not the leaf-footed variety? |
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Does anybody know what these are? They are partying down on my eggplant, and I have found some on my tomatoes as well. I have tried sevin and soapy water, and so far neither seems to have appreciably reduced their numbers. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg</a> Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm Thanks for the prompt answer. I wish the answer was different, but thanks for the answer. :( Any idea why the soapy water works for shield-shaped stink bugs but not the leaf-footed variety? I'm not sure but they are the aids of my garden. I can keep them at bay for quite a while but when it gets to the point where they fly out of my tomatoes like wasps I sit back on the porch with my volquartsen and just pick um off and call the season done. |
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Does anybody know what these are? They are partying down on my eggplant, and I have found some on my tomatoes as well. I have tried sevin and soapy water, and so far neither seems to have appreciably reduced their numbers. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg</a> Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm Thanks for the prompt answer. I wish the answer was different, but thanks for the answer. :( Any idea why the soapy water works for shield-shaped stink bugs but not the leaf-footed variety? I'm not sure but they are the aids of my garden. I can keep them at bay for quite a while but when it gets to the point where they fly out of my tomatoes like wasps I sit back on the porch with my volquartsen and just pick um off and call the season done. I wonder if pyrethrim pyrethrin would knock them out? So far it has worked well for soft body pests as a "contact" spray in our garden. |
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Does anybody know what these are? They are partying down on my eggplant, and I have found some on my tomatoes as well. I have tried sevin and soapy water, and so far neither seems to have appreciably reduced their numbers. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/081515AA_zpsok7xs5rr.jpg</a> Leaf-footed nyphs. I have very little luck controlling these but an application of Bayer Advanced Vegtable every 5 weeks and keeping my surrounding areas mowed help keep them at bay. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/weekly_Q&A/p&dc_12.htm Thanks for the prompt answer. I wish the answer was different, but thanks for the answer. :( Any idea why the soapy water works for shield-shaped stink bugs but not the leaf-footed variety? I'm not sure but they are the aids of my garden. I can keep them at bay for quite a while but when it gets to the point where they fly out of my tomatoes like wasps I sit back on the porch with my volquartsen and just pick um off and call the season done. I wonder if pyrethrim pyrethrin would knock them out? So far it has worked well for soft body pests as a "contact" spray in our garden. Pyganic/Evergreen, and the other Pyrethrum products, knock the snot out of them, but it has rather short activity, and clobbers just about everything else, good and bad. The Zeta and Beta Cypermethrins have much longer activity, as does "Eight" the Pyrrethrin based dust. The nice thing about the dust, is it washes off easily, and isn't persistent in the soil. Just keep an eyeball peeled for aphids after use, because any of them, will wipe out most of the aphid predators for one cycle, and it will take a couple weeks for them to build back up, giving the Aphids a head start. I would rather use a systemic, applied at dusk or night, to protect the beneficials somewhat, but that's just me. |
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