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Link Posted: 7/6/2017 12:32:10 AM EDT
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Some of you are getting lost in the details. Yes, a thief can get past any residential security measures given enough time. However, stats show that most are going to attempt kicking the front door. Cameras and an alarm are nice, but don't actually keep anyone out of your house. This is even more important when you're at home. Delaying entry gives you time to respond. If someone can smash your door open in one kick, that's a deck stacked against you right away. If it takes 30 seconds to break the door, now the homeowner has a signifigant advantage against an intruder. Prepare for the likely scenarios first. All the "what if" stuff will leave you making no decisions.
Link Posted: 7/7/2017 11:05:18 AM EDT
[#2]
I added 1/4" Lexan to all my door glass overlapping frame with through carriage bolts. Front door has a Barraciade bar system.
I replaced my plate glass in living room with 1/4" laminated. Yes it is over 1/2" thick.
My weak point is several wood 6 lite double hung windows.
Had insulated glass in some doors. Absolutely no protection. One light tap the tempered glass shatters. Now replaced with safety glass 1/4" thick
In SHTF  lower double hung windows will be plywood covered.
Link Posted: 7/9/2017 4:58:29 PM EDT
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I’m not trying to sound pessimistic but -> what is the point. All you going to do is slow them down and have bigger mess to clean up.

OP - your front door has panels that are easy to kick in - then reach over and unlock the dead bolt.

You can get a battery powered grinder for $120 at Home Depot. In few minutes you can cut through anything….


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/1000/e1/e19eee6f-ea4c-4f21-bb86-e7ba6f1e7037_1000.jpg
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I've seen a lot of burglarized houses and B&Es. Probably over a hundred.  They usually kick in the door.  Occasionally a window is broken. Sometimes a lock is shimmed if there is now deadbolt. Padlocks get cut (never signs of power tools on this) or the latch gets pryed off. I've seen one or two cases where lockpicking was the possible method (padlocks completely missing from sheds).

I have never seen anyone enter a a house by cutting their way in. I also work in town, so density of houses may deter such methods.  If a door doesn't give after a couple kicks, most burglars (certainly not all) are probably going to be deterred. They don't want to get make a bunch of noise/take too long and get caught.
Link Posted: 7/9/2017 5:12:32 PM EDT
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This is so important.  Having had a break in 5 years back- 2 Meth heads who hit us, another home, and a car on the same day on our street.... the fact that I had everything documented (and carried addditional insurance on the firearms) was critical.  Ended up getting paid out around 20k in both stuff (replacement items) and cash.

ETA-  in 10 minutes, 43 seconds they stole from us:
14 firearms
35,000+ rounds of ammo
3 big bags
comic books
all wives jewelry
class rings
porn stash (no really)
couple tools
video games

Came into our house via a ground level basement window that was barely big enough for my 11 year old to fit through.  Based it with a rock, bashed off the bars behind it, climbed in it (leaving blood on the sill and floor) then unlocked the walkout door.

They hit a house about 7 down right after, owner had them in there for about 8 minutes- same story.  Hit a car a house down from that (jeep) cut the sidewall and robbed it blind.  Never caught btw even though on my camera, neighbors camera, another neighbors camera (not hit) perfect descriptions and make of the car.
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No DNA results from the blood?
Link Posted: 7/10/2017 11:36:01 AM EDT
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I've seen a lot of burglarized houses and B&Es. Probably over a hundred.  They usually kick in the door.  Occasionally a window is broken. Sometimes a lock is shimmed if there is now deadbolt. Padlocks get cut (never signs of power tools on this) or the latch gets pryed off. I've seen one or two cases where lockpicking was the possible method (padlocks completely missing from sheds).

I have never seen anyone enter a a house by cutting their way in. I also work in town, so density of houses may deter such methods.  If a door doesn't give after a couple kicks, most burglars (certainly not all) are probably going to be deterred. They don't want to get make a bunch of noise/take too long and get caught.
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Good to get some info from somebody that is has 'been there done that'. Thanks!

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I think you hit on one big problem with the one-size-fits all answers we give in these threads. I live in an area where the houses are far enough apart that breaking glass would go completely  unnoticed. Driveways are 150' long. I have several driveway alarms that give early warning. Trying to 'harden' the house would be way to difficult and time consuming. One hell of lot easier to have good insurance....

In my hood, everybody has something like this for a front door -- rock, kick, etc. :




Something like this in the back - crow bar, rock, etc. :



Garage door with glass - break glass, pull release:



Curious note about these doors:

I bought a house near the college for my kids. The garage door needed to be replaced and I told the guy I would have somebody there when they came.

"Do you have glass?"
"Yes"
"Don't worry about it, we will break the glass and get in that way..."

SOP for them.
Link Posted: 7/11/2017 6:48:27 PM EDT
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I’m not trying to sound pessimistic but -> what is the point. All you going to do is slow them down and have bigger mess to clean up.

OP - your front door has panels that are easy to kick in - then reach over and unlock the dead bolt.

You can get a battery powered grinder for $120 at Home Depot. In few minutes you can cut through anything….


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/1000/e1/e19eee6f-ea4c-4f21-bb86-e7ba6f1e7037_1000.jpg
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That delay would allow you to easily be ready for them once they do manage to open the door.
Link Posted: 7/11/2017 11:51:04 PM EDT
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Best thing I've ever done was to turn on more lights. My driveway might as well be a professional ball park at night. Any dumbass trying to steal something out of my vehicle will be clear visible in the sights of my ...security camera.
Link Posted: 7/12/2017 12:19:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Looks very good
Link Posted: 7/29/2017 9:49:08 AM EDT
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Just installed mine yesterday, it works very well but has a tight fit between the door and the jam. Requires a little force to shut the door but it won't budge. Ordered a 3rd plate for the hinge up top from the website for $12, they said it wasn't needed, but I'd rather have all 3 covered than not.

Very happy with the purchase and will be getting another for the garage door.
Link Posted: 7/29/2017 10:23:57 AM EDT
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Just installed mine yesterday, it works very well but has a tight fit between the door and the jam. Requires a little force to shut the door but it won't budge. Ordered a 3rd plate for the hinge up top from the website for $12, they said it wasn't needed, but I'd rather have all 3 covered than not.

Very happy with the purchase and will be getting another for the garage door.
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Link Posted: 7/29/2017 11:10:35 AM EDT
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Looks nice
Link Posted: 8/3/2017 9:51:50 PM EDT
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I live in the smallest house on the block, with the least expensive car and the worst landscaping. I also have more motion sensor lights and cameras than any other house on the block and 2 pissed off Shepherds who hang out all day howling at the slightest sound.

Nobody wants in my place, I like it that way.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 7:03:28 PM EDT
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When we had our door replaced, I went around and screwed the door jamb to the studs with long screws and used long screws on the hinges, locks and strike plates.  

There is no reason not to since it's cheap and easy.  Every time they kick the door is another chance someone will hear or see them, hopefully they will get frustrated and leave.
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