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Posted: 8/21/2016 12:10:36 PM EDT
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I've been dealing with the same issues for many years. Some people have come around, most have not. I've given free firearms instruction (with certificate for CCW) to many people, mostly friends and family. Given my son and son-in-law each an AR-15 with ammo, mags, and instructions to come to my place if SHTF.
OP, do what you can, when you can. Don't let it eat you up. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 12:21:27 PM EDT
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I have found that my friends and family have much the same mindset as I do regarding preparedness.
The "but the gubmint will take care of me" types I stay away from and otherwise ignore. You can't fix stupid. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 1:19:58 PM EDT
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Everyone invited to my BOL and know where it is are GTG.
The rest couldn't find it. My BOL is way out just because of this as I dont want to deal with turning people away. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 2:13:14 PM EDT
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I surround myself with like minded people. Any family or friends that have made no attempt at preps will be sadly mistaken when they follow through with the (I'll just come to your house) comments.
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Posted: 8/21/2016 4:25:03 PM EDT
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We too have not taken a vacation, honeymoon, etc to have the things we feel will help us in a small emergency to a longer term event. Different food types/preps, on hand water and water filtering, personal care/hygiene, enough guns and ammo for us to hunker down, medical supplies, food for the dogs since they would be instrumental in guarding us, the cats just because and communications.
I couldn't get family to even take on one item on that list. We will do fine unless it's the end of the world. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 5:55:21 PM EDT
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Historically and statistically they are right.
Make sure you have some balance. I use all my vacation every year and try to travel international every 2nd or 3rd year. You can be prepared and have some money left over for recreation. Sometimes I feel like preppers feel like any money "wasted" on temporary enjoyment, travel, toys is on par with buying drugs or a hooker. Don't spend your life preparing for something and miss out on life when the s doesn't htf |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 6:45:05 PM EDT
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Historically and statistically they are right. Make sure you have some balance. I use all my vacation every year and try to travel international every 2nd or 3rd year. You can be prepared and have some money left over for recreation. Sometimes I feel like preppers feel like any money "wasted" on temporary enjoyment, travel, toys is on par with buying drugs or a hooker. Don't spend your life preparing for something and miss out on life when the s doesn't htf Much truth in this. maintain a balance. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 9:37:07 PM EDT
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Much truth in this. maintain a balance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Historically and statistically they are right. Make sure you have some balance. I use all my vacation every year and try to travel international every 2nd or 3rd year. You can be prepared and have some money left over for recreation. Sometimes I feel like preppers feel like any money "wasted" on temporary enjoyment, travel, toys is on par with buying drugs or a hooker. Don't spend your life preparing for something and miss out on life when the s doesn't htf Much truth in this. maintain a balance. I agree with this also. Much like the folks that built a bomb shelter in the 60s and never needed them. I do however plan to band together with like minded people and not worry about the others. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 10:00:57 PM EDT
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Just my opinion but better to have it (be it whatever) and not need it than need it and not have it. Try an interesting experiment sometime: shut off your power and water for a few days (maybe a week?) and do not 'go to town' (stay away from the store or other such places) and take many notes both on your (and yours) mental state and what you 'should have picked up'.
It can be an eye opener. |
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Posted: 8/21/2016 10:26:47 PM EDT
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Just my opinion but better to have it (be it whatever) and not need it than need it and not have it. Try an interesting experiment sometime: shut off your power and water for a few days (maybe a week?) and do not 'go to town' (stay away from the store or other such places) and take many notes both on your (and yours) mental state and what you 'should have picked up'. It can be an eye opener. My immediate family; the ones that live in my house, are all on board. It's the in laws and sisters and nieces and nephews, etc that don't care. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 5:01:35 PM EDT
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To a degree a lot of people don't get it. I have friends that feel others are foolish for ensuring they have supplies on hand for a short term event. These same friends feel nothing will ever happen and that the government will be there for assistance if something does happen. It is a sad reality that I have tried and cannot get through to these friends.
On Saturday I was in at our local Walmart. When we went to check out their system crashed and they could not take credit / dept or cards of any type. I sat back and watched the customers and it was an interesting experience. It was literally as the world just ended. People were angry and irrational because they could not pay for their items with their cards (the store could except cash and checks still) and these same people could not think rationally in any way. There were ATM machines in the store but these same people could not think of going to the ATM to get cash to pay for their items. Within 20-30 minutes there were literally 100's of full carts abandoned in the store as people got even angrier and left. I even overheard people in line saying this is what the first day of end of times will look like (their words). This reaction made me laugh as these people didn't have a clue between a little inconvenience and a true SFTH event. It was very interesting and frightening to see how the majority of people will act and how fast rational / common sense thinking goes out the window. Sadly, most of these people you can never get through too, no matter how hard we may try. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 5:19:21 PM EDT
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The majority of people are followers. If the media is telling them something is odd, isn't necessary, or otherwise ostracize it as being out of social norms, etc. they won't do it.
Anyone in this country has not had an excuse not to be prepared since 9/11. Really well before that, but when it's smack dab in your face on TV, you can't ignore it. I remember other survivalists getting amped cause of "all the new people that are preparing now" in late September of that year. I said "unfortunately we are going to see a lot of them go by the wayside really soon." And we did. Y2K, similar deal, 2007'ish economic implosion, same thing. It takes a particular type of person to stay the course in this long term. Combatives training is a great example- tons and tons of "one month wonders" but just a handful of people that make it 5, 10, 15 years and truly excel at what they are doing. Business is the same way. WE as survivalists have to strive to be those that stick. The world is full of losers that give up anything/everything when things get hard, their "interests" change, etc. I mean crap, we are talking about keeping our families safe and secure, could there be a more important cause? And yes you do need balance. You don't want to be that guy "with no furniture in his house sitting on a case of ammo, eating MRE's and listening to his shortwave radio all the time." BUT, if your new, or way behind the curve with your preps, yeah then cutting back on some friviloty in life IS a good way to get your preps up to speed. And a serious person WILL do that. Prepare, but enjoy yourself, the S is NOT going to HTF tomorrow, you HAVE TIME to prepare, the question always has been and will always be "what will you DO with that time?" |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:35:29 PM EDT
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You can't live in fear and have to enjoy life too. Living in fear vapor locks the brain and freezes you from taking action. Enjoy life but build up things while you do. It's good to be prepared and most of us who live in the hills and are vulnerable to being cut off because of snow do stock up on food in case we can't get out to the store/big city. Where I live I've been warned of 6 feet of snow in one day. No one is going anywhere with that much snow. Then again there are spring floods when the roads get washed out. Unless you have a bulldozer to rebuild your roads, forget it.
That said, you're spot on about frivolous things. When the lights go out, what do you need that fancy home entertainment system for? Your generator is needed to power the refrigerator to keep the food from spoiling. Your speedboat in the driveway won't do squat if you can't buy fuel to drive it to the lake/ocean. Besides, that gas is more important for the log splitter (and if you don't have one, you'd better have some mauls or wedges). Best thing is to live among like minded people who will cooperate and help each other out. In the book, Droughts and Dreams, there are plenty of examples where people just helped each other out during the Great Depression. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 5:50:36 AM EDT
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Meh.
I gave up caring about what others want to do with their lives. I moved far enough away..that only liked minded folks would make the effort to show. We need a good 6-12 days outage here. To many snow flakes out there that need to get a reality check... Yes you fat bitch...sitting under blankets complaining its hot....makes me dream of fast running zombies taking you down like a leopard going after a gazelle. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 7:42:39 AM EDT
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Since there argument tends to be the gov wont let it happen and will take care of them I have had some luck with people pointing out that FEMA says you need 2 weeks worth of supplies.
I am also okay with them getting RVs so if they do show up at least they have shelter and a place for there stuff. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 5:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I surround myself with like minded people. Any family or friends that have made no attempt at preps will be sadly mistaken when they follow through with the (I'll just come to your house) comments. same here. Except I never hear the I'll come to your house comments. |
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