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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:24:42 PM EDT
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Tagged. Also looking for one, but have no illusion that one will cold start a 7.3 diesel during the winter.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 8:42:41 PM EDT
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I've had two.
A cheap harbor freight one and a Stanley one. Both lasted about a year of pretty regular use. I mainly used them to charge my phone while camping and running a 12volt water pump for a piece of gold mining equipment. I did keep it on a small Jon boat as a back up for the trolling motor in case he deep cycle battery I normally used died. And it did work for that he few times I needed it. Not sure I would spend more than the $40 I paid for either of them. Definetly get one with a 12v accessory/ lighter plug. Makes it a lot more useful. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 9:08:58 PM EDT
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better off using a genny and a charger.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 9:23:05 PM EDT
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This one has gotten me out of a lot of jams. F250 with 7.3. My first one went about seven years before having to replace the battery. Skinny enough to fit behind my back seat. 12v charging input, I have got a little solar panel charger setup so it can also serve as a portable power pack.
http://www.amazon.com/Booster-ES5000-1500-Peak-Starter/dp/B000JFHNQA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1443057695&sr=8-7&keywords=battery+jump+start+clore |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 10:23:58 PM EDT
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Ive had these for years. I have big equipment and use it to start them. Pick ups are little compared to the skidders and excavators I have started with them.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 10:27:56 PM EDT
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http://themicrostart.com/products/micro-starts/xp10/
I've had the XP10 for about a year. I keep it in my work vehicle and have used it many times to help others out. Its started diesels, tractors, cars etc... Its the only charger I've ever had that kept the charge as long as this has without regular charging. A very amazing product and an incredible size. I bought mine on ebay for $160 shipped. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 10:30:48 PM EDT
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Tried three different ones with my Toyota 4 liter V6. None were powerful enough to help start it. Keeping a second full size battery charged is a much better option.z
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Posted: 9/23/2015 10:49:34 PM EDT
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Tried three different ones with my Toyota 4 liter V6. None were powerful enough to help start it. Keeping a second full size battery charged is a much better option.z This is what I do when I know I'm failure-is-not-an-option situations. I've got two different lithium packs, the Noco Genius GB30 and the Bolt Power D28. I got the Noco after a recommendation here. While they will turn over the my cars (both have 6 cyl engines) barely, the voltage drop on start is so deep that they can't actually get the car started since the ECU goes offline on the start voltage drop, so they're only going to work with a weak battery, not a dead one. The Noco will charge from USB, and has a light and can be a power pack to other USB devices. The Bolt power needs to charge from its own adapter, but comes with a set of cables that will plug into common laptops as well as power USB devices. I'd consider them both power supplies for portable electronics that can start some dead batteries rather than sure-fire jump starters. Of course the same is likely true for a 12V SLA jump box as well. Obviously a second car battery is going to work, and if you put a battery tender on it occasionally and use a battery analyzer, it's good to go. I have a set of alligator clips that go to a powerpole plug using the standard ham radio setup so I can use it as a power supply and charge as needed, the under-hood battery has the same setup. This is 60+ pounds heavier than a jump pack, but that's the price of no-fail. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 10:54:27 PM EDT
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I have the Antigravity XP-1, and am very impressed with it. It is very small and comes with multiple plugs to charge all sorts of things. I used it to start a Honda Accord that had not been started in months with a completely dead battery, started right up. I then immediately used it to start a 1973 Dodge Charger with a 5.2 liter engine, that also had a completely dead battery and had not been started in months. Started right up. You can find videos of people starting all kinds of stuff.
This was not in cold weather, but I'm confident it that with a decent charge it would start any ordinary car in cold weather too. |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 11:14:34 PM EDT
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I've got two different lithium packs, the Noco Genius GB30 That's the one I own: http://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GB30-UltraSafe-Lithium-Starter/dp/B00M1OUBES It was ruined after one jump start. Lithium Ion batteries are fragile.z |
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Posted: 9/23/2015 11:15:49 PM EDT
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just got a Schumacher XP2260 . its a jumper with 1150 cca, 110 volt inverter ,tire inflator, and 12volt power supply. $109.00 at Lowes or Sears has it with their label. I had a unit previous to this one but let it go without charging for an extended period of time--result ruined battery. whatever you get charge the battery ever couple of weeks whether you use it or not. Replacement batteries are apx $70.00.
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Posted: 9/23/2015 11:43:04 PM EDT
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Costco has something (or used to), the PSX2 powerstation.
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Posted: 9/24/2015 12:03:03 AM EDT
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DieHard-Platinum-Portable-Power-1150-AMPS-Power-Source-Jump-Starter-Compressor-/231657055600?hash=item35efd62570&item=231657055600&vxp=mtr $140 with free shipping I think I got mine on sale at Christmas time for $100 at Sears. Jumper, work light, 12v,110, USB, tire comp. AND separate camping style inflator. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 8:55:05 AM EDT
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http://themicrostart.com/products/micro-starts/xp10/ I've had the XP10 for about a year. I keep it in my work vehicle and have used it many times to help others out. Its started diesels, tractors, cars etc... Its the only charger I've ever had that kept the charge as long as this has without regular charging. A very amazing product and an incredible size. I bought mine on ebay for $160 shipped. THIS it will start my 7.4l suburban with the battery disconnected several times. it's the only one i have found that will do it. we actually used it to help start a fire engine with one dead battery. i was surprised by that. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 8:56:39 AM EDT
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This is what I do when I know I'm failure-is-not-an-option situations. I've got two different lithium packs, the Noco Genius GB30 and the Bolt Power D28. I got the Noco after a recommendation here. While they will turn over the my cars (both have 6 cyl engines) barely, the voltage drop on start is so deep that they can't actually get the car started since the ECU goes offline on the start voltage drop, so they're only going to work with a weak battery, not a dead one. The Noco will charge from USB, and has a light and can be a power pack to other USB devices. The Bolt power needs to charge from its own adapter, but comes with a set of cables that will plug into common laptops as well as power USB devices. I'd consider them both power supplies for portable electronics that can start some dead batteries rather than sure-fire jump starters. Of course the same is likely true for a 12V SLA jump box as well. Obviously a second car battery is going to work, and if you put a battery tender on it occasionally and use a battery analyzer, it's good to go. I have a set of alligator clips that go to a powerpole plug using the standard ham radio setup so I can use it as a power supply and charge as needed, the under-hood battery has the same setup. This is 60+ pounds heavier than a jump pack, but that's the price of no-fail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tried three different ones with my Toyota 4 liter V6. None were powerful enough to help start it. Keeping a second full size battery charged is a much better option.z This is what I do when I know I'm failure-is-not-an-option situations. I've got two different lithium packs, the Noco Genius GB30 and the Bolt Power D28. I got the Noco after a recommendation here. While they will turn over the my cars (both have 6 cyl engines) barely, the voltage drop on start is so deep that they can't actually get the car started since the ECU goes offline on the start voltage drop, so they're only going to work with a weak battery, not a dead one. The Noco will charge from USB, and has a light and can be a power pack to other USB devices. The Bolt power needs to charge from its own adapter, but comes with a set of cables that will plug into common laptops as well as power USB devices. I'd consider them both power supplies for portable electronics that can start some dead batteries rather than sure-fire jump starters. Of course the same is likely true for a 12V SLA jump box as well. Obviously a second car battery is going to work, and if you put a battery tender on it occasionally and use a battery analyzer, it's good to go. I have a set of alligator clips that go to a powerpole plug using the standard ham radio setup so I can use it as a power supply and charge as needed, the under-hood battery has the same setup. This is 60+ pounds heavier than a jump pack, but that's the price of no-fail. i have a noco gb30 as well. it works fine for 4cyl but needs a semi functional battery to start a 6-8cyl most of the time. the x10 will start pretty much anything |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 9:03:59 AM EDT
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This, does go on sale/deal thru Amazon.
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Ive had these for years. I have big equipment and use it to start them. Pick ups are little compared to the skidders and excavators I have started with them. http://www.amazon.com/Jump-N-Carry-JNC660-1700-12-Volt-Starter/dp/B000JFJLP6/ref=pd_sim_263_5/183-0302841-7526278?ie=UTF8&refRID=12GJXKF2P3BWY7ZYYE3V&dpID=51eXCN9XAyL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR158%2C160_ |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 9:31:13 AM EDT
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I have a Stanley model that I got on a good sale at Menards (like a Home Depot, but not). It pushes something like 400 starting amps. It will start my Ford 5.4 in my pickup from at least an almost dead battery (to the point where the starter solenoid just clicks). Has a USB and 12 volt cigg plug. It charges from 110VAC directly via regular extension chord. The most handy part is the air compressor. I use that ALL THE TIME. The air compressor part has gotten me out of more jams than jump starting anything. Its also handy for around the house: Always flat tires on stuff, especially anything using those cheap chicom tires. I have spent more money replacing those cheap tires TWICE a year on my garden cart than I paid for the garden cart. But back on topic....
Just wanted to mention that make sure you have an air compressor. Doesn't have to be on the power pack, but having a battery air compressor is important.
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Posted: 9/24/2015 10:31:00 AM EDT
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What's a good sub $200 box? 200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 10:36:36 AM EDT
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Ive had these for years. I have big equipment and use it to start them. Pick ups are little compared to the skidders and excavators I have started with them. http://www.amazon.com/Jump-N-Carry-JNC660-1700-12-Volt-Starter/dp/B000JFJLP6/ref=pd_sim_263_5/183-0302841-7526278?ie=UTF8&refRID=12GJXKF2P3BWY7ZYYE3V&dpID=51eXCN9XAyL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR158%2C160_ I have the 300 currently, but have the 660 on my wish list for Christmas. Mine sat for about 2 years without charging or maintenance and jumped off someone at a campground last year. http://www.amazon.com/Jump-N-Carry-JNC300XL-Ultraportable-Starter-Light/dp/B000XQ9MGE 
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Posted: 9/24/2015 7:54:43 PM EDT
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I came in here to post JNC too. I've had the 660 for years and picked up one of the smaller ones recently for another vehicle. Never had a failure.
Edit: My second one is the 300XL shown above. I will probably love it but haven't used it yet. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 8:23:45 PM EDT
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200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's a good sub $200 box? 200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. This. |
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Posted: 9/24/2015 8:24:08 PM EDT
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200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's a good sub $200 box? 200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. This. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 7:21:57 AM EDT
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I have a Black and Decker model I picked up on sale at one of the big box stores. It also has a compressor. I've used the compressor more than the booster. I've probably started three vehicles with it, but used the air pump dozens of times. It is a handy feature. I recommend this option.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:26:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:30:42 AM EDT
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200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's a good sub $200 box? 200 bucks would get you a serious AGM deep-cycle battery - with around 10 times the capacity of the average "jump box". Even 65 bucks buys a decent-sized one. Why would you want to use a deep cycle as a cranking battery? That's not what they are made for. I use the Schumacher jump packs around the marina. This time of year they come in handy picking up storage boats with dead batteries. http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PSJ-2212-ProSeries-Starter-Portable/dp/B000N4UQL6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443191515&sr=8-2&keywords=schumacher+battery+pack |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 2:14:45 PM EDT
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Pocket Power Plus from Solutions From Science http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/product/pocket-power-plus/
It'll jump your battery, charge virtually anything. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:48:23 PM EDT
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Why would you want to use a deep cycle as a cranking battery? That's not what they are made for. Deep-cycle batteries are made to tolerate deep discharges. Period. They work fine as starting batteries, and are commonly used in that application. Unlike their non-DC counterparts, they also work great for powering small-to-moderate loads for extended periods - You can run them down without ruining them. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 2:29:23 PM EDT
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Harbor Freight.
They all use 12v SLA batteries. The money you save with the harbor freight model will pay for the next set of batteries. Most 12v SLA batteries fail like clockwork at 24 months, I have replaced dozens between my battery backup UPS for the computers and jump packs for the vehicles. I have been toying around with the idea of replacing the 12 SLA battery with a bunch of 18650 batteries (laptop batteries) soldered together for the extra amp-hr capacity within the same footprint. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:42:06 AM EDT
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Pocket Power Plus from Solutions From Science http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/product/pocket-power-plus/ It'll jump your battery, charge virtually anything. Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 9:33:01 AM EDT
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Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pocket Power Plus from Solutions From Science http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/product/pocket-power-plus/ It'll jump your battery, charge virtually anything. Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? Nope. Was talking to a friend who repairs RVs. He may have a better one that costs the same amount of $$$. He says they were able to start six diesel trucks with their batteries disconnected in -40 degree temperatures. I emailed him today and asked him to ID the unit. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 9:44:56 AM EDT
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Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pocket Power Plus from Solutions From Science http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/product/pocket-power-plus/ It'll jump your battery, charge virtually anything. Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? the x10 is only slightly larger for the same price, comes with more cables for charging different devices and has significantly more output for larger engines. any of these devices will boost a 12v battery that is just low enough to start the engine. Few will start the vehicle by itself is the battery has a mechanical failure <ie dead cell>. the x10 will start my 7.4l suburban with the battery removed from the truck. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 10:45:57 AM EDT
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Nope. Was talking to a friend who repairs RVs. He may have a better one that costs the same amount of $$$. He says they were able to start six diesel trucks with their batteries disconnected in -40 degree temperatures. I emailed him today and asked him to ID the unit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pocket Power Plus from Solutions From Science http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/product/pocket-power-plus/ It'll jump your battery, charge virtually anything. Interesting and kind of what I'm looking for since my commuter car is pretty limited on space. Do you have one of these? If so, has it held up well? Nope. Was talking to a friend who repairs RVs. He may have a better one that costs the same amount of $$$. He says they were able to start six diesel trucks with their batteries disconnected in -40 degree temperatures. I emailed him today and asked him to ID the unit. Here's his response: Its very similar and that is a better deal than I can get. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 11:46:06 AM EDT
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Thanks guys!
Went with the XP10 from amazon. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:31:23 PM EDT
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I have to get one of those little ones.
Something the size of a cell phone that can start a car is crazy. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 12:33:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks guys! Went with the XP10 from amazon. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 7:31:41 PM EDT
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I have to get one of those little ones. Something the size of a cell phone that can start a car is crazy. Under perfect conditions, it doesn't take much to start an engine. |
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Posted: 9/27/2015 10:09:20 PM EDT
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As I mentioned, I run with complete spare car batteries now, but have a couple of the jump
packs that I wasn't impressed by when I tested them. It was interesting to me, I just priced out batteries for my XJ, and prices ranged from $90 for an economy flooded to $155 for an unbranded AGM -- and about $180 for a name brand but not optima AGM. Price tags on the higher rated jump starters here are actually close to a brand new AGM car battery -- and often substantially higher. I get that they're offering a size/weight benefit, but man, for most vehicles you're going to be pretty far ahead of the game just getting a decent quality second battery, and you'll have a warranty that's substantially longer than the jump starter as well. I've also noticed that at least on amazon there's a lot of flags that the jump packs are knockoffs (and the pricing would seem to support that.) While I doubt my little jump packs are knockoffs, it seems like the negative reviews of the XP10 there stem from that and not the product. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 7:09:15 PM EDT
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Schumacher is good. CenturyTool manufactures them (link below). Looks like they have some big hosses further down the page.
http://www.centurytool.net/Schumacher_Portable_Power_s/33234.htm |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 9:23:34 PM EDT
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This, does go on sale/deal thru Amazon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ive had these for years. I have big equipment and use it to start them. Pick ups are little compared to the skidders and excavators I have started with them. http://www.amazon.com/Jump-N-Carry-JNC660-1700-12-Volt-Starter/dp/B000JFJLP6/ref=pd_sim_263_5/183-0302841-7526278?ie=UTF8&refRID=12GJXKF2P3BWY7ZYYE3V&dpID=51eXCN9XAyL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR158%2C160_ I had one of these for a couple of years and have jumped many things with it. I charge the battery a few times a year but the meter constantly reads 100percent. I still leave it charge all night. I take it with me on all long trips along with a various emergency tools and Milwaukee impact. |
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Posted: 10/6/2015 8:17:10 PM EDT
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I just got one of these, similar to the pocket charger that was posted but this one comes with an air compressor also. Maybe not the best AC unit but better than nothing when you need it...seems to have great reviews!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VIVGRS4?vs=1# |
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