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Quoted: Guess we are up to H7N9 now? Outstanding!!! Would I be going out on a limb saying its only a matter of time? WW3 vs. pandemic vs. economic collapse... Which will come first nobody knows I guess that's what I get for leaving this pandemic thread in my sub list... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Guess we are up to H7N9 now? Outstanding!!! Would I be going out on a limb saying its only a matter of time? WW3 vs. pandemic vs. economic collapse... Which will come first nobody knows I guess that's what I get for leaving this pandemic thread in my sub list... |
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Another story on H7N9 http://news.yahoo.com/mutating-h7n9-bird-flu-may-pose-pandemic-threat-183117237.html
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Another story on H7N9 http://news.yahoo.com/mutating-h7n9-bird-flu-may-pose-pandemic-threat-183117237.html View Quote Interesting read... If something ever does take hold, it will be the one they didn't make a big deal about. |
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Animal health experts and poultry growers are scrambling to determine how a dangerous new strain of bird flu infected turkey flocks in three states — and to stop it from spreading.
Avian influenza is common in wild migratory waterfowl but doesn't usually harm them. But the H5N2 strain is deadly when it spreads to commercial poultry. It can wipe out a flock of tens of thousands of birds in a few days, as it did at a farm last month in Minnesota, the nation's top turkey-producing state. The same strain soon turned up on two farms in Missouri and one in Arkansas. The vast majority of turkeys and chickens in the U.S. spend their lives confined indoors to protect against disease. Yet, as the infections show, viruses can still reach them — tracked in by humans or rodents; carried on trucks, equipment, crates and egg flats; passed from waterfowl to shore birds that find their way into a barn. "This new guy is a bad actor," said Dr. Carol Cardona, an avian influenza specialist at the University of Minnesota. Minnesota confirmed its outbreak March 4, the first H5N2 found in the Mississippi flyway, a major bird migration route. The Missouri and Arkansas cases were confirmed this week. The only known commonality is the flyway. Why it showed up at these locations simultaneously is a mystery, though Cardona and other experts suspect waterfowl or other wild birds. Meanwhile, officials are keeping an eye on the workers who had contact with the infected flocks, and producers are tightening their standard biosecurity measures, which include putting on sanitary clothing and showering on their way in and out of barns. The new strain — along with other recent outbreaks of highly pathogenic strains in commercial turkey and chicken farms, backyard flocks and wild birds in the Northwest's Pacific flyway — also affects the industry's bottom line in the affected states. Dozens of countries have banned poultry imports from affected states, a common practice done mainly to protect their own flocks. The World Health Organization says avian influenza viruses can survive in contaminated raw poultry, so it's possible to spread them via fresh or frozen products. But government and industry officials say the danger to humans is very low, and people can't catch it from properly cooked poultry or eggs. Cardona said the likelihood of bird flu entering a country through imported products is "very, very low." Some countries also use those bans to protect their markets from cheaper foreign products, according to Dr. Donna Carver, extension veterinarian at North Carolina State University. "There's not always a scientific reason," she said. Minnesota, Missouri and Arkansas followed rapid response protocols from the federal government and poultry industry. Once H5N2 was confirmed at the farms, surviving turkeys were killed and kept out of the food supply. Officials quarantined the facilities and declared six-mile-radius restricted zones. They tested nearby farms but found no signs of other infected flocks. "At least right now we're breathing a little easier," Missouri Department of Agriculture Director Richard Fordyce said. To infect a commercial flock, the virus still needs to get into a barn. It spreads through bird-to-bird contact or via bird feces, so either a person, a bird or a rodent has to physically bring it inside. Modern biosecurity makes that difficult, so outbreaks in North America are rare. ---snip--- "I think the whole country is in lockdown mode in terms of trying to make sure that the biosecurity that they have is working the best it can," she said. View Quote |
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Quoted: MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Animal health experts and poultry growers are scrambling to determine how a dangerous new strain of bird flu infected turkey flocks in three states — and to stop it from spreading. Avian influenza is common in wild migratory waterfowl but doesn't usually harm them. But the H5N2 strain is deadly when it spreads to commercial poultry. It can wipe out a flock of tens of thousands of birds in a few days, as it did at a farm last month in Minnesota, the nation's top turkey-producing state. The same strain soon turned up on two farms in Missouri and one in Arkansas. The vast majority of turkeys and chickens in the U.S. spend their lives confined indoors to protect against disease. Yet, as the infections show, viruses can still reach them — tracked in by humans or rodents; carried on trucks, equipment, crates and egg flats; passed from waterfowl to shore birds that find their way into a barn. "This new guy is a bad actor," said Dr. Carol Cardona, an avian influenza specialist at the University of Minnesota. Minnesota confirmed its outbreak March 4, the first H5N2 found in the Mississippi flyway, a major bird migration route. The Missouri and Arkansas cases were confirmed this week. The only known commonality is the flyway. Why it showed up at these locations simultaneously is a mystery, though Cardona and other experts suspect waterfowl or other wild birds. Meanwhile, officials are keeping an eye on the workers who had contact with the infected flocks, and producers are tightening their standard biosecurity measures, which include putting on sanitary clothing and showering on their way in and out of barns. The new strain — along with other recent outbreaks of highly pathogenic strains in commercial turkey and chicken farms, backyard flocks and wild birds in the Northwest's Pacific flyway — also affects the industry's bottom line in the affected states. Dozens of countries have banned poultry imports from affected states, a common practice done mainly to protect their own flocks. The World Health Organization says avian influenza viruses can survive in contaminated raw poultry, so it's possible to spread them via fresh or frozen products. But government and industry officials say the danger to humans is very low, and people can't catch it from properly cooked poultry or eggs. Cardona said the likelihood of bird flu entering a country through imported products is "very, very low." Some countries also use those bans to protect their markets from cheaper foreign products, according to Dr. Donna Carver, extension veterinarian at North Carolina State University. "There's not always a scientific reason," she said. Minnesota, Missouri and Arkansas followed rapid response protocols from the federal government and poultry industry. Once H5N2 was confirmed at the farms, surviving turkeys were killed and kept out of the food supply. Officials quarantined the facilities and declared six-mile-radius restricted zones. They tested nearby farms but found no signs of other infected flocks. "At least right now we're breathing a little easier," Missouri Department of Agriculture Director Richard Fordyce said. To infect a commercial flock, the virus still needs to get into a barn. It spreads through bird-to-bird contact or via bird feces, so either a person, a bird or a rodent has to physically bring it inside. Modern biosecurity makes that difficult, so outbreaks in North America are rare. ---snip--- "I think the whole country is in lockdown mode in terms of trying to make sure that the biosecurity that they have is working the best it can," she said. |
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About 5.3 million laying hens in northwest Iowa will be destroyed after tests confirmed a second outbreak of avian influenza in the state, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said Monday. It's the largest operation in the nation to be hit with the virus since December, federal documents show. The commercial egg-laying facility, located in Osceola County, more than doubles the number of birds destroyed so far in the country because of the disease. "It's one of the bigger farms in the state," said Bill Northey, Iowa's secretary of agriculture. "But when there's an outbreak like this, you have to make sure the disease doesn't leave." *** read more at link*** http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2015/04/20/avian-flu-chicken-eggs/26094811/ |
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The bird flu is BAD in the midwest. In Minnesota, we are the highest producer of turkeys, and right up there for eggs and chicken. We are in the thick of it.
Jenny O has cut the workforce down to just 1 shift "for the foreseeable future". Lack of birds to process. Birds are being culled by the MILLIONS. Despite extra high biosecurity measures at, it is still spreading. They don't know how it is spreading yet. A lot of the affected farms are indoor only poultry. Gov. Mumbles has declared a state of emergency (which just means that the mega farms are eligible for taxpayer money). Reports are spreading that farmers' markets/poultry shows/trade shows are being shut down. No eggs/meat can be taken off farms in certain areas. FDA has stepped in to PRIVATE farms and put the farms on "isolation", according to reports circulating on farming facebook groups. Nothing leaves (animal product wise) Thus far, I have not heard of a person contracting it. Hopefully this stays down as far as the human aspect, but we are putting security measures in place with our chickens. Getting a cow in July, and it is a risk too, but we will keep them plenty far away for a while. |
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Well, we like turkey cause it's a healthy meat. And's tasty
Ackshully eating turkey or-derves, right now. [Turkey, crackers, swiss, mustard...] So I read Rat's post to my SO and suggested she buy up abt 8 Butterballs. To freeze. Am I over reacting???? Should we buy larger or smaller ones? What brand? |
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Ebola has been popping up in the news again, one of the doctors in the US that was cleared months ago still have the virus in his eye..... also a woman contracted it from a dude she was banging that has been said to be Ebola free for months.....
I'm also contemplating if I should stock the freezer with chicken, I go through a shit ton of chicken.... probably like 7-9 lbs of frozen tenderloin a week. Typically I wait for the frozen bags to go on sale but I'm wondering if I should snag some at regular price now while regular price is well regular ha |
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Quoted: Well, we like turkey cause it's a healthy meat. And's tasty Ackshully eating turkey or-derves, right now. [Turkey, crackers, swiss, mustard...] So I read Rat's post to my SO and suggested she buy up abt 8 Butterballs. To freeze. Am I over reacting???? Should we buy larger or smaller ones? What brand? View Quote We have 50 meat chickens due late june |
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Unfortunately, I don't think you are over reacting. Pick up some extra chicken if you have room in the freezer to store it. Prices will be up this fall and you'll be glad you have it on hand.
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We are building a small coup for about 8~10 egg layers. If the prices of eggs goes up like the predictions it will be more then a worthy investment. Plus we get our own "organic" eggs.
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H5N2 Hits Nebraska Farm
The fast-spreading avian flu virus was confirmed for the first time in Nebraska, at a commercial egg-laying farm that housed a flock of 1.7 million chickens, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said on Tuesday. The case in Dixon County, Nebraska, brings the number of states affected by the outbreak to 16, and the U.S. tally of birds that have either died or will be killed to 32 million. The U.S. poultry and egg industry has been grappling for months with the biggest outbreak on record of avian influenza in the United States. Authorities do not know how the H5N2 virus reached the Nebraska farm. The property has been quarantined and the flock will be culled, USDA said. There have been three strains of H5 identified in North America in this outbreak. In addition to Nebraska, other states with the H5N2 virus are Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington and Wisconsin. The virus has also been identified on farms in British Columbia and Ontario, Canada. The highly pathogenic H5N8 strain had been found in California, Idaho, Indiana, Oregon and Washington. The Canadian authorities also have confirmed the H5N1 strain was found in British Columbia, Canada. ***see more at link*** http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/12/us-health-birdflu-usa-idUSKBN0NX2H020150512 |
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My backyard flock was placed on a preemptive quarantine due to suspected Avian Influenza on Monday. We had noticed a couple of sick acting hens the preceding several days, and on Sunday we put them down, as they had not been eating, and we're basically frozen motionless, with their necks outstretched and their heads down. My wife made contact with the state board of animal health on Monday morning, and their veterinarian was out by noon.
He collected samples of the live birds, including one that was appearing under the weather. He then collected samples from the two I had killed on Sunday, and expressed concern over their symptoms and swelling he could see in their heads and combs. He overnighted the samples, and placed our flock under quarantine for AI. We finally were notified late Tuesday afternoon that the tests were negative, though they provided nothing further as to a suspect illness or disease. Several thoughts I had during this was that although I appreciated the response and promptness, anytime I see government moving fast I become suspicious. I am not in turkey country of MN. The closest outbreak to me was close to 100 miles away. I have a small flock without interaction with the industry. Had it been confirmed as AI, my only thought would have been waterfowl, as we have a river through our property. We were scheduled to pick up our first batch of 50 meat birds and a dozen more layer chicks on Tuesday. Thankfully our quarantine has been lifted, and we did not have to cull the flock. With the losses all over, eggs price will likely jump soon. Also our meat bird flocks comprise a significant portion of our annual protein, so a loss of those flocks or the ability to raise more this summer would have hurt |
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Makes me wonder how the egg/meat market will be reacting. We don't buy eggs anymore (have our own birds), so I don't pay attention to prices.
Also, it is now difficult to get chicks around us. Local farm stores simply don't have any. Local Runnings (Farm and Fleet store) said that with the AI, their supplier had to cull the entire flock!!! We were planning on getting a white cornish rooster this year for our rock hens so we could make our own freedom rangers, but we decided to keep one of the roosters from our meat run of purchased rangers instead. Just not worth the risk to bring in anything. Don't know what we will get, but male chicken plus female chicken makes little chickens that will have meat. Headed to do some grocery shopping sometime this week, I will have to see the supermarket supply/price of chicken products. Now may be a GREAT time (if not too late) to get that backyard flock going, provided you can get some chicks in! |
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Makes me wonder how the egg/meat market will be reacting. We don't buy eggs anymore (have our own birds), so I don't pay attention to prices. Also, it is now difficult to get chicks around us. Local farm stores simply don't have any. Local Runnings (Farm and Fleet store) said that with the AI, their supplier had to cull the entire flock!!! We were planning on getting a white cornish rooster this year for our rock hens so we could make our own freedom rangers, but we decided to keep one of the roosters from our meat run of purchased rangers instead. Just not worth the risk to bring in anything. Don't know what we will get, but male chicken plus female chicken makes little chickens that will have meat. Headed to do some grocery shopping sometime this week, I will have to see the supermarket supply/price of chicken products. Now may be a GREAT time (if not too late) to get that backyard flock going, provided you can get some chicks in! View Quote For us that isn't going to be possible. The bears would tear up anything we built to get at chickens -yum- and we're not where we might be able to raise them all the time. [Which reminds me I have some bear pix from yesterday to put up] We're going to have to buy some Butter-Ball turkeys or something and freeze them. Don't know what's best, maybe what Walmart sells? They usually have good quality and values... We don't eat eggs and use them mostly for cooking once in a while. We do eat a lot of chicken and other meats. Wonder what ChikFilA and Kentucky Fried will do for chikin? Personally, I think there is a real possibility [I know I usually scoff at folks' over-reactions] of this virus doing a lot of damage to poultry production in the US during the next 6 months. I wonder sometimes if some entity might be spreading it.... |
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Makes me wonder how the egg/meat market will be reacting. We don't buy eggs anymore (have our own birds), so I don't pay attention to prices. Also, it is now difficult to get chicks around us. Local farm stores simply don't have any. Local Runnings (Farm and Fleet store) said that with the AI, their supplier had to cull the entire flock!!! We were planning on getting a white cornish rooster this year for our rock hens so we could make our own freedom rangers, but we decided to keep one of the roosters from our meat run of purchased rangers instead. Just not worth the risk to bring in anything. Don't know what we will get, but male chicken plus female chicken makes little chickens that will have meat. Headed to do some grocery shopping sometime this week, I will have to see the supermarket supply/price of chicken products. Now may be a GREAT time (if not too late) to get that backyard flock going, provided you can get some chicks in! View Quote Ours little chicks will be here in a week or so. I guess I better get to work on the coop. We also have a line on a semi friendly rooster or two, I think we might take them. Being able to create more chickens in the next year or two might become more valuable. |
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EXPY37: Bought WM butter ball turkey once: they stunk, were slimy, and the meat was completely flavorless.
Much preferred the Jenny-0 I get from Cashwise. |
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right before this Asian bird flu makes it to north america, the chicoms start sending meat this way... and they still don't know how it spreads over here coincidence? |
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http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/exclusive-patient-extreme-form-tb-sent-nih-n371806
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http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/exclusive-patient-extreme-form-tb-sent-nih-n371806 "The patient also spent time in Missouri and Tennessee. Seven weeks after arriving in the United States, the patient sought treatment for and was diagnosed with active TB." It would be nice to know where in Missouri... |
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South Korea declares 'de facto end' to Mers virus
The good news is Korea controlled its outbreak, The bad news is, we (US) suck at self discipline and quality control and if we have an out break, if will be far worse! [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLvHJpMz7I[/youtube] ARTICLE |
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You guys remember 2 years ago when this topic was about H7N9? Whatever happened with that? |
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Anyone catch another fatality from plague in Colorado? Also heard now in California. On my phone, can'tlink.
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Anyone catch another fatality from plague in Colorado? Also heard now in California. On my phone, can'tlink. View Quote http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/health/colorado-plague-death/ http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/girl-catches-plague-yosemite-n405896 It would sound as if seeking medical attention asap makes this a non issue this day an age? |
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Quoted: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/health/colorado-plague-death/ http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/girl-catches-plague-yosemite-n405896 It would sound as if seeking medical attention asap makes this a non issue this day an age? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone catch another fatality from plague in Colorado? Also heard now in California. On my phone, can'tlink. http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/05/health/colorado-plague-death/ http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/girl-catches-plague-yosemite-n405896 It would sound as if seeking medical attention asap makes this a non issue this day an age? Flu like symptoms, possibly until it is too late. Also, two types: the quick and sever and longer duration and less severe. If you get the quick death version, (or you body reacts that way?), you have far less chances of survival. High doses of power ABs can cure, but some reports I read are showing the plague bacteria is becoming AB resistant. Was doing a lot of reading on my phone in bed the other night, so I was unable to save links for everyone here. |
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View Quote They reanimate this prehistoric virus. Which is all cool. Then they freak about global warming |
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Scottish Nurse Months Later Seems that I'm seeing a fairly regular stream of articles discussing new things they are use to seeing |
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A lot of articles relating to the long term effects of Ebola are coming up, the alarming part is from what I've read some of this is stuff scientist/doctors have never seen before
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http://avianflutalk.com/world-on-cusp-of-postantibiotic-era_topic35096.html
Many dangerous bateria are adding the ability to make antibiotics unable to work now. This is well worth reading. |
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Not up to date on this thread, but, just spotted this on Yahoo.
A particularly dangerous type of CRE bacteria is on the rise in the U.S. (Courtesy of CDC) This post has been updated. A particularly dangerous superbug, dubbed the "phantom menace" by scientists, is on the rise in the United States, according to a report Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This superbug's strains belong to the family of bacteria known as CRE, which are difficult to treat because they are often resistant to most antibiotics. They are often deadly, too, in some instances killing up to 50 percent of patients who become infected, according to the CDC. Health officials have called CRE among the country's most urgent public health threats. |
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http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/scientists-have-found-a-new-strain-of-bacteria-that-is-resistant-to-all-antibiotics/news-story/f643ea45c989c63365c0e50ea4a5f3e0
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More than 7,000 patients at a Utah hospital were potentially exposed to an “outbreak” of hepatitis C after coming into contact with an infected former nurse – but less than half have come in for free testing to find out if they have the disease.
“We do consider this an outbreak,” Angela Dunn, a physician with the Utah Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told the Standard Examiner. “When we have two or more hepatitis C-related infections, we consider it an outbreak.” Only 35 percent of the 7,200 patients contacted to receive free testing have come forward so far, FOX13 reported. “We’re hoping for about half at the end of the day, but we only have a few weeks left of free testing,” Dunn said. Several people have already tested positive for the disease; however, the final tally of those infected isn’t expected to be released until February or March. View Quote |
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Florida, Illinois report travel-related Zika cases
Travel-related cases of a mosquito-borne illness running rampant in Latin America have reached Florida and Illinois, officials in those states said Tuesday. Cases of Zika virus— which health officials in Brazil believe is causing babies to be born with abnormally small heads— have also been reported in Hawaii and Texas. All of the U.S. cases thus far have involved people who traveled to Latin America. In Illinois, two pregnant women who traveled to the affected area have contracted the virus, and doctors are reportedly monitoring their health and pregnancies. “There is virtually no risk to Illinois residents since you cannot contract Zika virus from another person, but only through the bite of an infected mosquito,” Illinois Department of Public Health director Nirav D. Shah, M.D., J.D., said in a news release. “But since this is a time of year when people travel to warmer climates and countries where Zika virus is found, we are urging residents, especially pregnant women, to take preventive measures when traveling in affected countries and check health travel advisories.” The Florida Department of Health has confirmed three Zika cases. Two of those people live in Miami-Dade County and traveled to Colombia in December, and the third infected person lives in Hillsborough County and traveled to Venezuela in December, according to the Washington Post. None of the residents are pregnant women. An individual can contract Zika when an infected mosquito bites them. There’s no vaccine nor antiviral treatment for the virus. Seriously |
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Zika virus
Data suggest that newborns of mothers who had Zika virus infection during the first trimester of pregnancy are at an increased risk for microcephaly. Since December 2015, it has been suspected (but not proven) that a transplacental infection of the fetus may lead to microcephaly and brain damage. Along with other viruses in this family, Zika virus is enveloped and icosahedral with a nonsegmented, single-stranded, positive-sense RNA genome. It is most closely related to the Spondweni virus and is one of the two viruses in the Spondweni virus clade. The virus was first isolated in 1947 from a rhesus macaque in the Zika Forest of Uganda and in 1968 was isolated for the first time from humans in Nigeria. From 1951 through 1981, evidence of human infection was reported from other African countries such as Uganda, Tanzania, Egypt, the Central African Republic, Sierra Leone, and Gabon, as well as in parts of Asia including India, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Vietnam, and Indonesia. The pathogenesis of the virus is hypothesized to start with an infection of dendritic cells near the site of inoculation, followed by a spread to lymph nodes and the bloodstream.[6] Flaviviruses generally replicate in the cytoplasm, but Zika virus antigens have been found in infected cell nuclei. Wiki |
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Quoted: https://dninews.com/article/deadly-virus-leaked-us-laboratory-donbass-dpr-army-and-intelligence Russian propaganda? Then this http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35364929 View Quote The first one - disinformation or outright lies. Second world bordering on third world health problems progressing as normal. Why not try to blame the USA? The second one - sort of explains how a country in turmoil that hasn't modernized their medical systems can be subject to communicable diseases. If you read the bottom three paragraphs of the BBC article, it blames the outbreak on a lack of a "central authority" to make rapid decisive decisions. (paraphrasing here, but they really do refer to decisiveness in the decision making process ) |
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So far, the virus has killed 60 people, and is approaching, or has reached, epidemic levels in parts of the country View Quote 60 people at epidemic levels? Hell, a cold will do that, even under good conditions. |
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At least six U.S. residents have tested positive for the Zika virus, with officials in New York, Arkansas and Virginia confirming cases in each state.
Four people who had returned from travel abroad have tested positive in New York state with infections with the mosquito-transmitted Zika virus, local health officials said on Wednesday. View Quote |
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