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Originally Posted By hawk1:
Lets try again. http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm View Quote Should work just as well. I recommended the one I did because I like to terminate all of my Cat-6 with connectors. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan: Should work just as well. I recommended the one I did because I like to terminate all of my Cat-6 with connectors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan: Originally Posted By hawk1: Lets try again. http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm Should work just as well. I recommended the one I did because I like to terminate all of my Cat-6 with connectors. I have nothing against RJ45's and can do the cuts/crimps, but thought a more direct connection without a connector was better? Thanks again for your guidance.
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Originally Posted By hawk1:
Is that just because you like to or do you end up with a better/more consistent long term connection? I have nothing against RJ45's and can do the cuts/crimps, but thought a more direct connection without a connector was better? Thanks again for your guidance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By hawk1:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By hawk1:
Lets try again. http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm Should work just as well. I recommended the one I did because I like to terminate all of my Cat-6 with connectors. Thanks again for your guidance. It's just an easier/quicker connect/disconnect.... and it's a habit. |
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Got my camera back today.
Was still under the 3 year warranty...... by exactly ONE day. So that was good news..... also ACTi has pretty dang good customer service. |
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So we're changing out one of my dome cameras: an Acti KCM-7111. It's a 4MP day/night dome camera, slaved to a PIR sensor, and used to cover one side of my home. The camera works fine, but for some reason, every six months or so, it gets a wild hair, and freezes. Resetting it fixes the problem (for about six months), but then I have to reset it again.
Have no idea why... and I was tired of dealing with it. So out it goes. In with the new. What we have here is a Vivotek FE8172V panoramic camera. It's 5MP, IP-66 (meaning it can be mounted outdoors with impunity), and can be ceiling or wall-mounted. It's designed to provide a full room view from a single camera, with good resolution. It also has a significant strength over some of the other panoramic offerings on the market: it's actual day/night. That means it has a bonafide IR-cut filter, and is sensitive to IR once it switches to night mode. This is very important to me; I use quite a lot of IR around my home. Comes with a nice mounting ring and interface cable, as well as a bag of screws, instruction manual (in multiple languages), drilling templates, and a software CD: Here's the guts, and they're pretty well organized. The small notch in the top of the black motherboard shield is where you insert a Micro-SD card for local storage (VERY important). The ethernet port is on the bottom by the cable-entry ports (more later). The mounting ring is solid metal. And has a notch pre-cut to feed cables into the mounted camera. We've drilled a second hole on the opposite side of this ring... the reason why will be obvious in a few minutes: Here's the bottom of the devices. You can see it's pretty well sealed, and the white plug in this picture is meant to be removed, and replaced with the grey cable-nipple. You'll see this in--place later in the slideshow. There's a handy-dandy interface cable included. This is the cable that allows the camera to interface with sensors, attach microphones, or trigger other devices. Note the small slot-head plug to the left of the open hole; that's designed to be removed, and the interface cable screwed into place. It makes a nice, tight fit. Outside, we've removed the existing PIR sensor, and will be placing this camera along the same length of conduit. This will be a wall-mount. We'll be cutting the conduit, and placing the mounting ring in the center of it (and now you see the reason for the second hole we drilled on the opposite side of the mounting ring) Here we've cut the conduit with a drywall saw, just below the grey conduit clamp. The two wires you see are 12VDC to power the PIR, and the ground/NC wires used to send the sensor signal to the camera. We used the signal wire to pull the ethernet cable down through the conduit from the attic. The signal wire only has to go a short distance. Here's the mounting ring in place, screwed into the brick with anchors. The PIR mounting box has been re-attached, and all that's left to do is hook up the wires: Here's the camera. I'll call your attention to the grey cable-nipple that's now occupying the previously-open hole in the base of the camera housing. This camera should be pretty well water-tight. Here is a close-up of the interface cable. Note it has DI (digital input) and GND ports. We'll be using those to take input from the Crow PIR sensor mounted just below it. And here it is mounted.... looks pretty good, if I say so myself |
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You are a master camera Jedi.
That looks awesome. Can't wait to see some output.
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Here are some images from last night, so you can appreciate the difference in the Field-of-View.
The Acti has a fixed lens, and covers an 82-degree arc... not quite enough to cover a full room from a corner-mount. The Vivotek covers a full 180-degree arc, and enables you to cover the entire side of a structure from a single wall-mounted camera... and get day/night performance out of it (forgive the pixelation... there are some surprises behind that gate that I'd rather not show) Let's briefly compare this camera to the Mobotix panoramic cameras. The Mobotix Q24 series is a similar camera, in a similar form-factor. It offers full-room coverage, is 3MP (in the day version... the night version is only 1.3MP), and includes a built-in microphone and speaker. It also comes some mounting options that the Vivotek does not. It can be recessed-mounted in a ceiling, or wall-mounted with a 10-degree-angle mounting box that's made specifically for that camera. The angled mounting box is a nice option, and I wish the Vivotek had something similar. The Mobotix cameras also have a steel vandalism cover that can be bolted over the top of the camera, for locations where the camera may be subjected to physical attack. Mobotix also offers an ext-IO module, which allows PIR sensing, temperature, sound level sensing, etc. Mobotix also has VOIP capability (you can add the camera as an extension to a SIP-based PBX, like Asterisk or Freeswitch). So where does that leave the Vivotek? The Vivotek is significantly cheaper. It can be found online for $600-650.... while the Mobotix camera starts at $800, and rapidly increases from there (adding a mounting box, and an Ext-IO unit adds another $300 to the price tag). Both offer on-board storage. The Vivotek is 5MP compared to the Mobotix's 3MP, and the Vivotek is also day/night. That's a HUGE advantage, since the Mobotix comes in either a day-only version (color), or a night-only version (B&W), but not both. The Vivotek lacks some of the specialty mounting and lens options that Mobotix offers, but for a flat wall-mount, or ceiling surface-mount, it should serve just as well. The Vivotek also allows sensor-interface from the camera itself, while the Mobotix Q24 requires an Ext-IO module to get the same capability. So far, I'm pretty satisfied. I'm still wresting with some of the configuration options, but I'll post more on that once I have it figured out. |
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I freaking love this thread!!
I have learned a lot and have not working in a few days from reading this thread |
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I'm wondering if I can cut/re-purpose a 6" PVC pipe cap into an angled mount for that camera...
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You need a good friend with 3D modeling CAD/CAM software and a rep-rap 3D printer or CNC Mill.
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11-06-2012: All HOPE is lost, for there will be NO CHANGE.
And as the horde gazed over the edge into the abyss, they chanted FORWARD! FORWARD! |
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Here's a video of a Foscam camera being dishassembled.
For the more techy here... Go to about 7 minutes in... Trying to imbed the video but something is wrong, maybe someone can help? Anyhow, the link is bottom of this post... http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_481761&feature=iv&src_vid=XeUriFF21WI&v=bNN6FiIJMDQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_481761&feature=iv&src_vid=XeUriFF21WI&v=bNN6FiIJMDQ |
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I see us collectively as a country bumpkin, sitting on a log with a rifle, having no understanding what's going on beyond a few trees away, about to be enslaved with no interest by whom or what.
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Oh, the mischief I could get into... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
You need a good friend with 3D modeling CAD/CAM software and a rep-rap 3D printer or CNC Mill. Oh, the mischief I could get into... If you think of anything that can be drawn as an SVG image and cut from acrylic sheet with a CNC CO2 laser cutter, shoot me an IM. I'm setting up to make parts for a project and can probably cut some for you. There are a couple of options for gluing or solvent-welding acrylic. |
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Ugh, it'll take me days to go through this thread. Thanks GrayMan.
Tagged for when I have my own property. |
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Any recommendations for a complete POE stsyem? Samsung has one, looking for other recommendations. Thanks
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Originally Posted By GhostFly:
Any recommendations for a complete POE stsyem? Samsung has one, looking for other recommendations. Thanks View Quote I'm honestly not a fan of the one-size-fits-all or system-in-a-box deals. I don't think they give you enough flexibility, and very frequently the cameras are the cheapest thing you can possibly get. Some of them also include proprietary connectors/cabling (though that shouldn't be an issue with PoE cameras that actually follow the 802.3af standard) that make changing cameras quite difficult, and require you to cut/strip/crimp new connectors. PoE cameras tend to be higher-end (as reflected by the price), and if you're paying that kind of green, you want something that's going to be good... and work well. I've yet to encounter a single manufacturer who has such a superior and comprehensive product line that you don't need to look anywhere else... and the likelihood of getting that in an all-in-one box deal are slim. Even Mobotix, who I consider one of the best camera manufacturers in the market, doesn't have the be-all-end-all for every residential application. A good example is that panoramic camera I just installed. I actually have two Mobotix panoramic cameras (one color, one B&W) sitting in a cabinet in my garage... and that's probably where they'll stay until I find another use for them... because the Vivotek I just installed is a better camera for the specific spot where I placed it. Can you give me a link to the Samsung deal you were checking out? Also, if you could provide a few pictures (by PM, please... and you can edit them for opsec if you like) of the areas you're hoping to cover, I may be able to offer some guidance. |
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
This little gem popped up this week in a community facebook page. Nailed with a game camera. http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/dtolerant/theif.jpg View Quote What are we looking at? |
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Originally Posted By ARDestructo:
What are we looking at? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ARDestructo:
Originally Posted By joemama74:
This little gem popped up this week in a community facebook page. Nailed with a game camera. http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/dtolerant/theif.jpg What are we looking at? Meth-on-meth crime? |
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Originally Posted By red_on_black:
Meth-on-meth crime? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By red_on_black:
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
This little gem popped up this week in a community facebook page. Nailed with a game camera. http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/dtolerant/theif.jpg What are we looking at? Meth-on-meth crime? A chick who is now in jail for burglary. (edit - this is not my house) |
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Gotcha.
The URL spelled "thief" wrong. :) |
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
This little gem popped up this week in a community facebook page. Nailed with a game camera. http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/dtolerant/theif.jpg View Quote Well hello there. |
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Any recommendations on "alarm systems"? I want to stay away from the ADT's of the world if possible.
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Originally Posted By GhostFly:
Any recommendations on "alarm systems"? I want to stay away from the ADT's of the world if possible. View Quote There's no reason to go with ADT, Brinks, or other big-name, cheesy-TV-commercial company. You can probably find a local company that can install whatever you like... which is what I did. I went with Honeywell hardware, specified the main alarm brain/panel (using a large commercial panel), and the features I wanted it to have (keyfobs, cell backup, internet access, and so forth). It wasn't cheap, but now I've got a local company I can call whenever there's a problem... which fortunately has been very seldom. It's analogous to buying a system-in-a-box CCTV setup. The ADT system-in-a-box might work OK... but you can get far better if you have an idea of what you want, and are willing to pay for it. |
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Grayman, on the outdoor cameras that have built in IR leds, is it possible to disable those and use a free standing IR illumiator?
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Originally Posted By Quigley:
Grayman, on the outdoor cameras that have built in IR leds, is it possible to disable those and use a free standing IR illumiator? View Quote Yes... some cameras allow you to disable the IR leds in the camera's software... check the online manual for any planned camera purchase BEFORE you buy, just to make sure that feature is included. In fact, I highly recommend external illuminators. They come in a vast array of different types, ranges, beam-spreads, and so forth... and every camera view is going to be a little different. The standard "spotlight" throw of camera-integrated LEDs is not the best fit for every application. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
For that, you're probably looking at a pre-packaged system (like one poster bought earlier in the thread... a pretty nice score for $400). Most of those are at least adequate during the day time, provided you place your cameras wisely. Keep in mind... for really challenging lighting scenarios, like very bright backlighting, it won't work as well... for locations like that you'll need a camera with wide dynamic range. Pre-packaged systems often have lower-quality cameras, but those can be augmented (or selectively replaced if necessary) with additional lighting, IR illuminators, etc for the night shots, or other difficult lighting conditions. Even if your system isn't high-dollar or high-end, just having visible security cameras is a great deterrent. Mine are discretely placed... no big, obnoxious pendent mounts... all of them are soffit-mounted and unobtrusive... but I'll still get the pest-control guys, or the lawn guys comment on mine "jeez... is there any part of your house you can't see with those cameras?" My reply: "nope... I can see pretty much everything, day or night." There is great value in deterrence. You don't have to live in Fort Knox... sometimes it's enough to simply look like a harder target than your neighbors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By hanau:
Thanks for all the info. Now i need to figure out what i can do with about $1000. For that, you're probably looking at a pre-packaged system (like one poster bought earlier in the thread... a pretty nice score for $400). Most of those are at least adequate during the day time, provided you place your cameras wisely. Keep in mind... for really challenging lighting scenarios, like very bright backlighting, it won't work as well... for locations like that you'll need a camera with wide dynamic range. Pre-packaged systems often have lower-quality cameras, but those can be augmented (or selectively replaced if necessary) with additional lighting, IR illuminators, etc for the night shots, or other difficult lighting conditions. Even if your system isn't high-dollar or high-end, just having visible security cameras is a great deterrent. Mine are discretely placed... no big, obnoxious pendent mounts... all of them are soffit-mounted and unobtrusive... but I'll still get the pest-control guys, or the lawn guys comment on mine "jeez... is there any part of your house you can't see with those cameras?" My reply: "nope... I can see pretty much everything, day or night." There is great value in deterrence. You don't have to live in Fort Knox... sometimes it's enough to simply look like a harder target than your neighbors. So here it is, 4 years later and prices have dropped. I work with a family business that recently had a break-in after hours ... decent sized warehouse, 2 truck bays and various man doors. Ideally, I'd be able to set up 4 or more cameras that would cover all entrances with enough detail that faces and license plates could be read ... so sealed outdoor cameras with decent resolution and night performance. Total budget for this project is $1000-$2000 most likely. I read a lot of this thread, but prices seem to have dropped a lot since 2009 ... what is the current state of the market for what I am looking for? What would you suggest for my price point? |
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question on some ebay cameras.
I just bought a house, and installed a wired honeywell security system (vista 20p based). I am only trying to protect against my ex wife/her new husband coming to my house when they shouldnt. I want to be able to show the court that they are nuts. that being said, i dont think this system will get used too much. I would consider mounting a 10-14inch lcd over my alarm panel with a couple channels on it though. would something like this fit the bill? they seem cheap so that great for me cheap megapizel network camera or a whole system cheap 4 camera system with previously mentioned network cameras also saw this in one of their other auctions. wtf is this thing?! never seen big led's on camera before. and the 2 led's look different from one another robocop looking security camera thoughts? |
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from what I have read here, if you NEED true facial recognition, then a megapixel camera is needed. If you just want to see if someone is there or not then analog will work
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I need to facial recognition. so i guess ill stick with megapixel. any info on those ebay ones i posted?
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Well, I bit the bullet and purchased my first camera today. It's for inside the house and is a Panasonic BTS WV-SF135, which is advertised as a slim profile dome network camera. I'm also purchasing a POE switch (a small one for now), and getting a dedicated NVR computer ready for it to record to. I'll probably use the Luxriot software. I figure I can play around with this one some and see where it leads. I decided to forgo analog cameras completely at this point. It just seems easier to run Cat5e or 6 once and have the better resolution. It also seems like it would be relatively simple to expand.
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Originally Posted By Stan_TheGunNut:
Well, I bit the bullet and purchased my first camera today. It's for inside the house and is a Panasonic BTS WV-SF135, which is advertised as a slim profile dome network camera. I'm also purchasing a POE switch (a small one for now), and getting a dedicated NVR computer ready for it to record to. I'll probably use the Luxriot software. I figure I can play around with this one some and see where it leads. I decided to forgo analog cameras completely at this point. It just seems easier to run Cat5e or 6 once and have the better resolution. It also seems like it would be relatively simple to expand. Wish me luck. View Quote Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. Been pulling cable for a wifi installation all day today. Just got the AP associated to the controller... now to figure out how I'm going to route the public AP. |
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Originally Posted By dieselsuburban:
question on some ebay cameras. I just bought a house, and installed a wired honeywell security system (vista 20p based). I am only trying to protect against my ex wife/her new husband coming to my house when they shouldnt. I want to be able to show the court that they are nuts. that being said, i dont think this system will get used too much. I would consider mounting a 10-14inch lcd over my alarm panel with a couple channels on it though. would something like this fit the bill? they seem cheap so that great for me cheap megapizel network camera or a whole system cheap 4 camera system with previously mentioned network cameras also saw this in one of their other auctions. wtf is this thing?! never seen big led's on camera before. and the 2 led's look different from one another robocop looking security camera thoughts? View Quote That is very reasonable for a megapixel system. Even if it sucks, you're not out that much, and can probably resell it for most or all of your money. |
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Can you give me some additional photos (front and rear)? You can PM them to me if you want, and edit them for whatever level of OPSEC you desire.
How high are the eaves/soffits on that garage? Do you have enough know-how to set up a wireless bridge from the garage to the house? (I can help you there). Do you have wifi or a network setup in the house? ETA: what's your distance from the detached garage to the end of the driveway? |
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Originally Posted By Haggin:
Here's the front/rear and detached garage photos. Street view is pretty much the same picture so I'm not breaking OPSEC too much anyway, its not that hard of a home to find. Eaves and soffits on attached garage are probable 12, detached is probably 10 or less. Not sure on the wireless bridge, never don't it. No wifi yet. Current owners don't have internet (WHAT!?!?!?). Cable internet is nonexistent, DSL service might not be available (they are checking now), so we might have a verizon hotspot for internet only. Driveway is approximately 175 to 200 feet long from the road to where it spreads out to the parking area. <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Haggin:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Can you give me some additional photos (front and rear)? You can PM them to me if you want, and edit them for whatever level of OPSEC you desire. How high are the eaves/soffits on that garage? Do you have enough know-how to set up a wireless bridge from the garage to the house? (I can help you there). Do you have wifi or a network setup in the house? ETA: what's your distance from the detached garage to the end of the driveway? Here's the front/rear and detached garage photos. Street view is pretty much the same picture so I'm not breaking OPSEC too much anyway, its not that hard of a home to find. Eaves and soffits on attached garage are probable 12, detached is probably 10 or less. Not sure on the wireless bridge, never don't it. No wifi yet. Current owners don't have internet (WHAT!?!?!?). Cable internet is nonexistent, DSL service might not be available (they are checking now), so we might have a verizon hotspot for internet only. Driveway is approximately 175 to 200 feet long from the road to where it spreads out to the parking area. <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png</a> See if there is Point to Point wireless DLS in the area that is what we have we use out here....to far from any city for Verizon,AT&T or cable |
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Originally Posted By Haggin:
Here's the front/rear and detached garage photos. Street view is pretty much the same picture so I'm not breaking OPSEC too much anyway, its not that hard of a home to find. Eaves and soffits on attached garage are probable 12, detached is probably 10 or less. Not sure on the wireless bridge, never don't it. No wifi yet. Current owners don't have internet (WHAT!?!?!?). Cable internet is nonexistent, DSL service might not be available (they are checking now), so we might have a verizon hotspot for internet only. Driveway is approximately 175 to 200 feet long from the road to where it spreads out to the parking area. <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Haggin:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Can you give me some additional photos (front and rear)? You can PM them to me if you want, and edit them for whatever level of OPSEC you desire. How high are the eaves/soffits on that garage? Do you have enough know-how to set up a wireless bridge from the garage to the house? (I can help you there). Do you have wifi or a network setup in the house? ETA: what's your distance from the detached garage to the end of the driveway? Here's the front/rear and detached garage photos. Street view is pretty much the same picture so I'm not breaking OPSEC too much anyway, its not that hard of a home to find. Eaves and soffits on attached garage are probable 12, detached is probably 10 or less. Not sure on the wireless bridge, never don't it. No wifi yet. Current owners don't have internet (WHAT!?!?!?). Cable internet is nonexistent, DSL service might not be available (they are checking now), so we might have a verizon hotspot for internet only. Driveway is approximately 175 to 200 feet long from the road to where it spreads out to the parking area. <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureFront_zpsb8978377.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureRear_zps1986613f.png</a> <a href="http://s443.photobucket.com/user/higgins-tm/media/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png.html" target="_blank">http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq160/higgins-tm/CaptureDetached_zps7e73e76e.png</a> In regards to the prior poster's point about getting a PTP wireless connection: if it's available, SERIOUSLY consider doing this. Verizon is OK, but the internet access is basically one-way: you CANNOT connect back to a verizon air-card or USB modem-based network remotely. You can get outgoing internet access through it, but you cannot connect back to your internal network from the internet. There is no IP address where you could forward ports, and access your cameras from another location. I've personally used Verizon for a remote camera setup, and it will email images to me, but there is no way for me to connect back to the camera itself. That's a major limitation of Verizon cellular-based internet, and that limitation is NOT well publicized... so buyer beware. In regards to your particular setup, you have enough land that you can push out your detection perimeter, and I would highly recommend doing exactly that. I'd get a Dakota Alert driveway alarm, and TWO receiving consoles. Put one console in the house, and one in the garage (they'll both alarm in response to the same sensor signal). You'll get audio alerts whether you're in the garage, or in the house... but I'd do something additional for the one in the garage. I'd mount a zoom camera on the front corner of that building (it will be easier to mount there than on the house, and easier to install), and point it down the driveway. Something like this one (from Acti) would do nicely... and it allows alarm inputs: It's weatherproof, day/night, has 22x optical zoom, and should be able to read a license plate at 150-200 feet (at full zoom). I'd power that camera with a PoE switch in the garage, and connect that switch to a wifi bridge mounted on the garage (connecting back to the network in the house). That way, you could access and control the camera (and its zoom function) remotely. The I/O connector on the back of that camera would connect (via two wires) to the C-channel relay connectors on the back of the Dakota Alert console. Set up the camera to email you whenever the driveway sensor is triggered, and you get a picture sent to your smart phone whenever somebody pulls into your driveway. If your internet sucks badly, another option would be to put a network storage device like this one in your heavy gun safe in the main house (run ethernet cable and power through the hole in the back... same hole people use to hook up a goldenrod). Enable the FTP server on that little NAS drive, set up a network share, and set the camera to send images to that FTP server whenever the driveway sensor is tripped. That way, even if they get away, you've got a nice series of megapixel images of their truck (hopefully including the plate number) safely stored in your gun safe, which hopefully was too heavy and bothersome for them to crack open. I'd also consider putting a megapixel dome camera on the back corner of that garage, and use it to cover not only the side garage door, but the back of your house (looking at the overhead view, an 80-90-degree lens should easily cover both, though the images of the house will be too far away to resolve a face very well. It will, however, give you area coverage. That camera can take PoE from the same switch that powers the zoom camera on the front corner of the garage... and connect back via the same wifi bridge. And honestly, your garage may be the higher-risk spot for where you live. Every rural farmhouse has weapons... but a garage isn't typically a living area, and guys will sometimes break into a detached garage in preference to a main house, to steal 4-wheelers, farm equipment, tools, etc. As for the house itself, you might consider covering that back basement door with a camera mounted under that deck. A nice, sheltered spot like that is prime territory for a break in. As for the front, I'd put a camera to the left of that door, shooting down the porch toward the steps. That not only shows you who is at the door, but gives you an excellent chance of getting a face shot as they ascend the stairs and walk toward your front door. That camera also faces north, meaning the southern sun will be illuminating whoever is walking toward it. You're probably looking at four cameras, plus the Dakota Alert setup, plus the PoE switch and wireless bridges (you could get two ubiquiti bridges for $150 total).... maybe $2500 bucks (actually, less... if you use budget-range cameras in certain spots... the one by your front door could be a bargain bullet like Acti's E31). The zoom cam will be the most expensive... but if you left off the camera under the back deck (they have to walk past two other cameras to get around the back of the house), you could probably get it done for <$2k... and have a system that would actually give you accurate alerts, and good pictures. ETA: here's the overhead view... clear as mud? |
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Thank you very much for the information. I'll look into the recommendations. I'll be back with questions in sure. I may setup the driveway alarm and detached garage first and add to the system as funds are available.
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Originally Posted By Haggin:
Thank you very much for the information. I'll look into the recommendations. I'll be back with questions in sure. I may setup the driveway alarm and detached garage first and add to the system as funds are available. View Quote I'd start with that, and at least a camera on the garage to watch the driveway. Tie the driveway alarm and the camera together like I showed you. That way you get a heads-up when you're home, and a heads-up when you're away. The ones on the house can come later. Set up the network infrastructure as well... that will make it a trivial exercise to add additional cameras. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
I'd start with that, and at least a camera on the garage to watch the driveway. Tie the driveway alarm and the camera together like I showed you. That way you get a heads-up when you're home, and a heads-up when you're away. The ones on the house can come later. Set up the network infrastructure as well... that will make it a trivial exercise to add additional cameras. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By Haggin:
Thank you very much for the information. I'll look into the recommendations. I'll be back with questions in sure. I may setup the driveway alarm and detached garage first and add to the system as funds are available. I'd start with that, and at least a camera on the garage to watch the driveway. Tie the driveway alarm and the camera together like I showed you. That way you get a heads-up when you're home, and a heads-up when you're away. The ones on the house can come later. Set up the network infrastructure as well... that will make it a trivial exercise to add additional cameras. To limit funds (we're busy buying equipment to care for this place too), could I potentially save funds by setting up a stand alone system on the detached garage to watch the driveway and back of the house (what appear to be the two most vulnerable points) along with the driveway alarm, then go wireless into the house down the road? Would this require me to record 100% of the time then review the data if necessary otherwise just let it overwrite? Or would the driveway alarm set off the camera and the recording of the images from one or two cameras? I'm worried we might not be able to get reliable internet at this location, we're on the edge of the point to point service provider map that I found. The rear half of the detached garage is climate controlled if that matters. I also plan on adding some security to the entry and overhead doors via jamb hardeners and interior gates as we won't be in and out of the detached garage everyday like we will the attached garage. The camera you mentioned is probably the cheapest insurance there is, but I'd like to get this into manageable bites. While I'd be spending more overall (IE a high quality camera watching each entrance vs cheaper cameras right away that would be replaced eventually anyway) spending a little annually to upgrade and have a good system after three or so years of upgrades. |
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Picked up a FI9821W megapixel [1280x720 display resolution] Foscam and was surprised at the resolution and range of the IR leds, in a good sized room.
They have digital zoom that's IMO pretty much worthless after x2 or so. They cost around $140 on ebay. Wireless and with slot for SD card for recording. 2 way audio so could be used as intercom. Nice great little cam for the price. |
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I need to set up a driveway alarm.... I wonder if they have them that can email a log?
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Was wanting to do a wired megapixel IP PC NVR build. Found lots of refurbished Dual Quad Xeon Server's with 4 sata drive bays for fairly reasonable prices $3-500.
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Was wanting to do a wired megapixel IP PC NVR build. Found lots of refurbished Dual Quad Xeon Server's with 4 sata drive bays for fairly reasonable prices $3-500. 1. Would this be the best (cheapest) bet for recording lots of streams of Video? 2. Would a system with a video card assist at all? 3. Would a 4x4tb Raid 10 setup be the best option for Data retention and redundancy? Thanks View Quote 1. I have a nine-channel system running on an old Athlon 64x2 dual-core AMD system... works just fine at 40% load or so. My home system runs an intel Quad-core, and with 16 channels (multi-megapixel streams), motion-detection, runs about 60% on all four cores.... but that's with re-encoding and serving those streams to remote clients. A quad-Xeon should shoulder any home system with zero problem. 2. Big video cards are unnecessary. I use MB-integrated video cards, and they are more than adequate. It's all 2D, and doesn't require anything exotic. 3. You can use whatever RAID arrays you like... I actually don't use RAID. If a drive fails, I just get another one. It's a rare enough occurrence that I've never lost video of an incident because of it. Of course, I also have emailed video, and internally-stored video to fall back on... so as always, redundancy is your friend. |
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Thanks for the info. Are you running Zoneminder for your NVR Software?
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Hey guys, would it be possible for me to set up a self monitored security system for a store, with ~5 cameras, complete with alarm inputs such as motion alarms, sound alarms, doors and possibly panic/chicken switches?
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