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Posted: 10/14/2014 12:55:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
All links to snipers hider are now a dead end now that they sold out to some college sports website.All the good info from there is now gone. What a waste - I guess Frank decided he was done with the hide... Hes still there, but snipers hide is now owned by Scout. Are you sure? This was part of a post by Frank on Facebook. "14 years I have run the site and continue to run it, I haven't sold anything" |
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Posted: 10/14/2014 1:18:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Originally Posted By RFutch: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By dangerdan: All links to snipers hider are now a dead end now that they sold out to some college sports website.All the good info from there is now gone. What a waste - I guess Frank decided he was done with the hide... Hes still there, but snipers hide is now owned by Scout. Are you sure? This was part of a post by Frank on Facebook. "14 years I have run the site and continue to run it, I haven't sold anything" I don't see why someone would take a fully functional website and later have it under the Scout network, whom I have never heard of. Something's up |
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Posted: 10/14/2014 1:23:50 PM EDT
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I said in another thread that I thought the announcement was a hoax email when I got it.
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Posted: 10/15/2014 10:59:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#4]
Added the M24A2 I don't believe Remington or Badger makes the MARS rail anymore, at least not for commercial sale. However, PRI makes a scope base very similar. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2014 5:20:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#5]
Really great thread. Thanks for starting it.
Would it be a completely insane idea to throw out there the addition of a M70 with that Marine 8x scope that was super long? With the heavy barrel. Another legend of a rifle made so by Mr. Hathcock. Or for that matter an 03A1 or 03A4? Also, back in the AR forum I know there used to be a thread for SDM-R and SAM-R rifles but it has no link to it in the tacked pic thread links. I guess they get no love, but I would love to review that thread again sometime. Anybody know how to find it and bump it over there? Sorry for the off topic stuff. Carry on. Great thread Danger Dan. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2014 5:49:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By RFutch:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
All links to snipers hider are now a dead end now that they sold out to some college sports website.All the good info from there is now gone. What a waste - I guess Frank decided he was done with the hide... Hes still there, but snipers hide is now owned by Scout. Are you sure? This was part of a post by Frank on Facebook. "14 years I have run the site and continue to run it, I haven't sold anything" He claims that he didn't "sell" the Hide, proper, but rather partnered with Scout. But the facts remain that I've never seen a small/independent forum get sold to a large conglomerate and things become better. Frank/Lowlight is claiming that making Hide part of this Scout network will help "grow the sport" and take it "mainstream," and that may very well be part of his intentions along with taking the load of supporting and running it all off his shoulders, but even so... this transition has been a shit show and claiming "Oh, we had a fourteen page thread about it on the forum before this happened" isn't a justifiable excuse. Which is too bad. The Hide was a knowledgeable place, but guess I'll look elsewhere. I'm not comfortable with some big media forum mashup running things. |
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Posted: 10/15/2014 10:57:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA: Really great thread. Thanks for starting it. Would it be a completely insane idea to throw out there the addition of a M70 with that Marine 8x scope that was super long? With the heavy barrel. Another legend of a rifle made so by Mr. Hathcock. Or for that matter an 03A1 or 03A4? Also, back in the AR forum I know there used to be a thread for SDM-R and SAM-R rifles but it has no link to it in the tacked pic thread links. I guess they get no love, but I would love to review that thread again sometime. Anybody know how to find it and bump it over there? Sorry for the off topic stuff. Carry on. Great thread Danger Dan. I'll look into it. Parts for it are hard to come by, and Pre-64 Winchesters are worth a premium Only SAM-R pic thread I saw |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:59:03 AM EDT
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Does anyone have any pics on the MK13 series? Im looking for pics of each Mod. I have several of the Mod 5 and 6. Looking for earlier Mod pics.
Now on to the Snipershide stuff thats going arond. I thought I was the only one having this problem. Is this going to get fixed anytime soon? The website was an awesome site for information. Sucks now that it doesnt work. Thanks. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 1:59:46 AM EDT
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Does anyone have any pics on the MK13 series? Im looking for pics of each Mod. I have several of the Mod 5 and 6. Looking for earlier Mod pics.
Now on to the Snipershide stuff thats going arond. I am a member on there and thought I was the only one having this problem. Is this going to get fixed anytime soon? The website was an awesome site for information. Sucks now that it doesnt work. Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 8:03:09 AM EDT
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Sorry for the Snipers Hide sidetrack, but I didn't start it, and I can understand the desire to access info there, so:
- Frank did not SELL the site to Scout, it is some kind of a "Partnership" that is supposed to allow things to happen that Frank couldn't do on his own. IMHO, I think that the whole change over is a freaking train wreck! - The old site stills exists as a read only, you can access it at: http://forum.snipershide.info/ If there is some piece of information there that is important to you, then I would get over there and get it copied down. According to Frank, it is supposed to stay up indefinitely, but I would rather be safe than sorry! It was a good site, and I hope that it continues on, but I am not going to hold my breath! |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 8:46:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Originally Posted By USMCColt: Does anyone have any pics on the MK13 series? Im looking for pics of each Mod. I have several of the Mod 5 and 6. Looking for earlier Mod pics. Thanks. Look at page one. I need to update the pics on the Mk13 mod 1. I believe the one posted is a clone. I used to have quite of few pics of the actual Mk13s prior to the Mod 5, but I have lost them. Kevin at HCS told me the one they built for the American Sniper movie is a mod 5 (same one pictured as Mk13 Mod 1 on page one, but with a Knights Mk11 suppressor). I'm not entirely sure if that is correct or not. Those variations of the M13 had a McMillan stock and a special recoil lug and a 3rd action screw. It's a bit hard to get concrete info on a particular weapon system when there isn't a lot of data out there as the service rifles such as the M40s, M24 etc. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 11:53:48 AM EDT
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One of my favorites:
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 2:20:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
It's a bit hard to get concrete info on a particular weapon system when there isn't a lot of data out there as the service rifles such as the M40s, M24 etc. It seems like anything that wasn't a full-blown SOCOM item or program is lacking in information. What information you do find is incomplete or inaccurate and you end up collecting little tid-bits here and there that are just other pieces that fit into the overall puzzle. I'm dealing with the same issues now on a Chenowth Desert Patrol Vehicle I'm restoring. After dealing with 6 different people, I'm only now starting to get a better picture considering that most of the info you see is inaccurate or has been regurgitated from the same single source over and over again. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 3:10:23 PM EDT
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Here's a good clone of an early MK13 (grabbed this one from snipershide):
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 4:09:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Really great thread. Thanks for starting it. Would it be a completely insane idea to throw out there the addition of a M70 with that Marine 8x scope that was super long? With the heavy barrel. Another legend of a rifle made so by Mr. Hathcock. Or for that matter an 03A1 or 03A4? Also, back in the AR forum I know there used to be a thread for SDM-R and SAM-R rifles but it has no link to it in the tacked pic thread links. I guess they get no love, but I would love to review that thread again sometime. Anybody know how to find it and bump it over there? Sorry for the off topic stuff. Carry on. Great thread Danger Dan. I'll look into it. Parts for it are hard to come by, and Pre-64 Winchesters are worth a premium Only SAM-R pic thread I saw http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/442885_.html I think back in the day I remember a thread longer than that with more pics. Because I think I have some pics downloaded from that thread. 
I'm not sure if this one falls into Mk12 category. Probably so, but the FF rail was different I think, so.... 
I apologize if this was a sidetrack from the intent of your original post. It seemed that you might be focusing on bolt guns... But I figured I'd ask about the SDM-R/SAM-R stuff in here. As far as the M70, yeah, I hear you. I thought some company like Gibbs or something was starting to make replicas of Hathcock's rifle. But I might be mixing it up with the 03A4 or even A1. But if someone DID start making repro's of that old 8x scope, Unertl I think? I don't know. That big long thing, I would think it would be doable because you wouldn't necessarily HAVE to have a pre 64 action. Or if you did that would just be a bonus. Either way I think it's the same scope that the Marines used on the 03A1. Now the 03A4, I have no clue if any of those optics are being offered as reproduction. I'm pretty sure here again someone was. And that it could be added to the discussion. Since you went back to Vietnam era I figured why not go back to WWII? 03a4 I bought an 03A3 a while back with every intention of turning it into an 03A4. I started to get into it and realized that #1, it was hard to drill and tap the receiver. #2, it would be unwise to do so. #3 Back then the repro mounts and glass weren't available. I got as far as buying a bolt from somewhere and it looked awful. I think it was from.... oh what the heck is the name of that place. Maybe SARCO. I forget but it was a really bad deal and I gave up on it because of all of those issues. I should've started out by looking for a sporterized, already drilled and tapped receiver. Which I ran across one a long time ago, but didn't have the money to buy it at the time. And then at some point it was even really hard to get the no drill and tap mounts for them. Like they were discontinued. Anyways.... that's my 03A4 sob story. LOL. 
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Posted: 10/16/2014 5:47:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA: Originally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By JJREA: Really great thread. Thanks for starting it. Would it be a completely insane idea to throw out there the addition of a M70 with that Marine 8x scope that was super long? With the heavy barrel. Another legend of a rifle made so by Mr. Hathcock. Or for that matter an 03A1 or 03A4? Also, back in the AR forum I know there used to be a thread for SDM-R and SAM-R rifles but it has no link to it in the tacked pic thread links. I guess they get no love, but I would love to review that thread again sometime. Anybody know how to find it and bump it over there? Sorry for the off topic stuff. Carry on. Great thread Danger Dan. I'll look into it. Parts for it are hard to come by, and Pre-64 Winchesters are worth a premium Only SAM-R pic thread I saw http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/442885_.html I think back in the day I remember a thread longer than that with more pics. Because I think I have some pics downloaded from that thread. http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53269%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C985%3B4%3Anu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53265%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C985%3B4%3Bnu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53269%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C985%3B53nu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53257%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C9999%3B%3Anu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53264%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C9999%3B8nu0mrj http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53264%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C985%3B4%3Cnu0mrj I'm not sure if this one falls into Mk12 category. Probably so, but the FF rail was different I think, so.... http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53269%3Enu%3D3235%3E392%3E252%3EWSNRCG%3D323758%3C9999%3B6nu0mrj I apologize if this was a sidetrack from the intent of your original post. It seemed that you might be focusing on bolt guns... But I figured I'd ask about the SDM-R/SAM-R stuff in here. As far as the M70, yeah, I hear you. I thought some company like Gibbs or something was starting to make replicas of Hathcock's rifle. But I might be mixing it up with the 03A4 or even A1. But if someone DID start making repro's of that old 8x scope, Unertl I think? I don't know. That big long thing, I would think it would be doable because you wouldn't necessarily HAVE to have a pre 64 action. Or if you did that would just be a bonus. Either way I think it's the same scope that the Marines used on the 03A1. The SDM-R uses a Daniel Defense M4 12.0 rail system, which is discontinued. The SAM-R (Marines) has a KAC flip-up front sight attached to barrel, and the SDM-R (Army) uses the standard A2 front sight. The SDM-R was made to minic the M16A4 as to not make the shooter a target indicator, I believe. I left the SAM-R, SDM-R, and Mk12 out because they are designated marksmen rifles. As for as WWII sniper rifles, I left them out of the OP due to that they aren't a "modern" era. Vietnam era sniper rifles are still used today (not literally, but the Model 700 action is still used, and it is when the M40 came about). The Unertl 8x that was used in WWII is/was the same scope on the M70.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:14:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA]
[#17]
Gotcha. Thank you for bumping that thread for me. I'll post those pics in there and see if anybody else is interested.
Again, great thread and pics and I'm sure a lot of people will gain some knowledge if they're wanting to build one of those you posted. I didn't even know there were so many models in use, so I'm more informed now. 
ooops, I can't bump that thread, it's archived. Oh well. |
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Posted: 10/16/2014 6:29:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
I thought about the M70, but honestly, it wasn't purpose built for military use. More-or-less an upgrade from the M1903 and M1C/D and a placeholder for a standardized military sniper rifle. The US military hasn't fielded a sniping rifle that was purpose built for military use since the M21. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2014 7:24:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:34:48 AM EDT
[#20]
No. The mk12 is not a SAM-R or SDM-R, as previously stated
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Posted: 10/17/2014 8:46:46 AM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: Originally Posted By dangerdan: I thought about the M70, but honestly, it wasn't purpose built for military use. More-or-less an upgrade from the M1903 and M1C/D and a placeholder for a standardized military sniper rifle. The US military hasn't fielded a sniping rifle that was purpose built for military use since the M21. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:22:57 AM EDT
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Maybe he means purpose designed. I would argue that all sniper rifles are purpose built but using previously designed receivers, etc. If anyone buys remington new rifle that would probably be the first completely new rifle that was designed and built for military use.
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:40:04 AM EDT
[#23]
What do you guys think about having this thread moved to the new Precision Rifle forum?
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:42:56 AM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
What do you guys think about having this thread moved to the new Precision Rifle forum? I think that would be appropriate. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 12:39:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Drop it lock stock and barrel into the bolt gun side.
Maybe move the dmr rifles into the. Semi side |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 1:40:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ACPjunkie: Drop it lock stock and barrel into the bolt gun side. Maybe move the dmr rifles into the. Semi side I was thinking this. Make a separate thread for semi-auto SWS and DMRs
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Posted: 10/17/2014 3:14:47 PM EDT
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Tag
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USA
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:13:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
As for as WWII sniper rifles, I left them out of the OP due to that they aren't a "modern" era. Vietnam era sniper rifles are still used today (not literally, but the Model 700 action is still used, and it is when the M40 came about). The Unertl 8x that was used in WWII is/was the same scope on the M70. 
Still going to post up my USMC clone... 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/18/2014 2:45:12 PM EDT
[#29]
Oh my goodness that thing is beautiful!!! Is that a reproduction scope?
How does she shoot? Did you build that? |
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USA
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Posted: 10/18/2014 10:33:52 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JJREA:
Oh my goodness that thing is beautiful!!! Is that a reproduction scope? How does she shoot? Did you build that? Thanks. Yes, it is a reproduction scope. http://hi-luxoptics.com/product/riflescopes/malcolm-replica-scope-series/malcolm-8x-usmc-sniper/ In the very limited amount of rounds I put through it (15, since I had an emergency the one range day I took it out), it shoots fine. Not precision rifle in most people's eyes, but definitely capable... especially with the M2 ammo I have on hand. Been meaning to go out with it again, but at the moment, zeroing my AR is likely taking priority. I did not build it myself. I got the rifle from an online sale on another forum, which was a refinished Greek buyback. Had DGR rebuild it as a standard M1903, and really didn't like it (my Mosin Nagant PU rifle made me want optics on it). Since I had so much invested on the rebuild, and didn't want to take that loss, I had it converted to the USMC setup to keep my interest (most practical way to turn a M1903 into a sniper). Sent it to Iron Sight INC for the install... which they did all the work (modify the handguard, install the bases, notch the bolt handle, and then bore-sight it at 100 yards). Looks like it was rebuilt after the scope install, so I was happy. I was considering to have Shuff convert my commercial Garand to M1D, but not too sure on the mounts I've seen. Heard one or two people have issues with the scope aligning, and when it came down to the underlying reason, the newer production mounts were slightly out of spec. Then, I wasn't sure on a scope for it, anyways. Figured to keep it without glass. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/19/2014 12:19:47 AM EDT
[#31]
Well it sure turned out nice.
Some say AP is more accurate than M2 ball. Someday you should test that theory. I don't know if I could tell a difference as my Garand and 03A3 only have iron sights. I'll tell you what though, that 03A3 can shoot. Even with that 2 groove barrel. 
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Posted: 10/19/2014 2:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:50:51 PM EDT
[#33]
Aside from the spec manufacturers like Douglas, Hart, Lilja, Schneider, etc - are there any other reputable manufacturers that offer the same barrel contours (as used on these clones), but for a little less $?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:27:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Aside from the spec manufacturers like Douglas, Hart, Lilja, Schneider, etc - are there any other reputable manufacturers that offer the same barrel contours (as used on these clones), but for a little less $? Every barrel manufacturer that I know offer the same contours such as #7, Varmint, and M24/M40. They're all going to be around in the same ball park as pricing goes. When I ordered my Schneider M40 barrel blank, I think I paid $350 (circa 2009). |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Every barrel manufacturer that I know offer the same contours such as #7, Varmint, and M24/M40. They're all going to be around in the same ball park as pricing goes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Aside from the spec manufacturers like Douglas, Hart, Lilja, Schneider, etc - are there any other reputable manufacturers that offer the same barrel contours (as used on these clones), but for a little less $? Every barrel manufacturer that I know offer the same contours such as #7, Varmint, and M24/M40. They're all going to be around in the same ball park as pricing goes. When I ordered my Schneider M40 barrel blank, I think I paid $350 (circa 2009). Gotcha. I had a feeling that would be the case. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 4:41:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Reading "The Red Circle" by Brandon Webb - he mentions arriving at the SEAL sniper training armory and "each getting a sniper M-14, a Remington 308 bolt gun, a Remington 300 win mag, and a .50 cal."
This was in the spring of 2000 - which R700 308 and R700 300 win mag rifles would these have been? MK13 Mod 0 and Mod 1? Or would there even have been a designation for these rifles at that time (in 2000)?
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Posted: 10/20/2014 4:49:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Reading "The Red Circle" by Brandon Webb - he mentions arriving at the SEAL sniper training armory and "each getting a sniper M-14, a Remington 308 bolt gun, a Remington 300 win mag, and a .50 cal." This was in the spring of 2000 - which R700 308 and R700 300 win mag rifles would these have been? MK13 Mod 0 and Mod 1? Or would there even have been a designation for these rifles at that time (in 2000)? I'm not sure when the Mk13s came out. The book might be referring to the M91 (.308) and the M91A2 (.300 WM) manufactured by Redick Arms Development. Not sure on the specifics, but very closely resembles the M24.   |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 12:52:37 PM EDT
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Anyone have any news or speculation on the M40A6? Last I heard was that they were looking for a folding stock. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:21:59 PM EDT
[#39]
I heard two things, that PWS was going to try to do something in-house for it or that they might send it out. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebs of an A5 in an accuracy international chassis and it is one sexy rifle.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Anyone have any news or speculation on the M40A6? Last I heard was that they were looking for a folding stock. |
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Posted: 10/22/2014 1:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sobieras: I heard two things, that PWS was going to try to do something in-house for it or that they might send it out. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebs of an A5 in an accuracy international chassis and it is one sexy rifle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sobieras: I heard two things, that PWS was going to try to do something in-house for it or that they might send it out. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebs of an A5 in an accuracy international chassis and it is one sexy rifle. Originally Posted By dangerdan: Anyone have any news or speculation on the M40A6? Last I heard was that they were looking for a folding stock. What I remember hearing was that it must accept current M40A5 barreled actions, and one problem they were having with the A3/5 was not enough space for nigh vision optics. I read somewhere that they are looking for a folding stock, with a continuous optics rail, in sand brown color. I beleive the Remington RACS was being looked at, but sounds kinda like a Mk13 Mod 7 in .308. I'd be interested to see what they come up with. Supposedly contracts are supposed to be closed in February 2015
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2014 9:00:08 AM EDT
[#41]
Mk13 underway--
Rem 700 receiver in .300 win-mag purchased 
This is going to be a fun one! |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 10:26:38 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Mk13 underway-- Rem 700 receiver in .300 win-mag purchased
This is going to be a fun one! Did you go the whole rifle route to start? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2014 12:27:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skeld:
Did you go the whole rifle route to start? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skeld:
Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Mk13 underway-- Rem 700 receiver in .300 win-mag purchased
This is going to be a fun one! Did you go the whole rifle route to start? Yes--purchased a complete Rem 700 in 300 win-mag as the receivers, by their lonesome, cost upward of $550 (from Brownells)... extra parts will become firewood
Furthermore, I have pretty much bottlenecked myself into reloading as I am not paying retail for match grade .300 win-mag ammo. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 1:30:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Which mod?
Are you getting HCS to build it?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:57:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Going for the Mk13 Mod 5--
I am still debating whether or not to go through HCS for the conversion or just hire a gunsmith to do the extractor mod, true the receiver/bolt/barrel, and piece everything else together myself... not sure yet! I think the next piece of the puzzle is locating a KAC Mk11 Suppressor. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:00:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: Going for the Mk13 Mod 5-- I am still debating whether or not to go through HCS for the conversion or just hire a gunsmith to do the extractor mod, true the receiver/bolt/barrel, and piece everything else together myself... not sure yet! I think the next piece of the puzzle is locating a KAC Mk11 Suppressor. My advice would be to get the suppressor before you build. Send it to HCS and have them profile the barrel and fit the suppressor to the barrel properly. If you want a MARS rail, good luck. But PRI makes one very similar. There are some Mod 5s around with the Badger IMUNS, though.  |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:19:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire]
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I think I have found a 20 moa MARS rail, new, that's not going to cost me my left nut and first born... We'll see
There are some Mod 5s around with the Badger IMUNS, though. Any pics of those? Seems like an odd pairing--or out of place--if that makes any sense. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:37:12 PM EDT
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I originally wanted to do a MK13 MOD5 but then I found out that the stock they use on the MOD5 is not being made anymore. Thats unfortant because I wanted a magazine system. So I think what I will do now is the MOD4 I think it is called which is the Chris Kyle rifle. I think that I will go with HCS for this build. Should be a good time.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 5:15:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCColt: I originally wanted to do a MK13 MOD5 but then I found out that the stock they use on the MOD5 is not being made anymore. Thats unfortant because I wanted a magazine system. So I think what I will do now is the MOD4 I think it is called which is the Chris Kyle rifle. I think that I will go with HCS for this build. Should be a good time. Honestly, I prefer the new style over the old.
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Posted: 10/25/2014 11:32:06 AM EDT
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the old skins will fit the new stocks...
Quote HistoryWhat I remember hearing was that it must accept current M40A5 barreled actions, and one problem they were having with the A3/5 was not enough space for nigh vision optics. I read somewhere that they are looking for a folding stock, with a continuous optics rail, in sand brown color. I beleive the Remington RACS was being looked at, but sounds kinda like a Mk13 Mod 7 in .308. I'd be interested to see what they come up with. Supposedly contracts are supposed to be closed in February 2015 The latest I heard was that the Remington RACS was the one selected during the individual user evaluations. They're also looking at doing an 18" barrel on it, but are doing more testing - why, I don't know considering they've had the XM3 before. I also find it ironic that they'll have a bolt rifle with a shorter barrel than their 7.62 gas gun - and not have as magnum option. It'll be the M40A7, bypassing an A6 variant, why I don't know. The big problem for the chassis manufacturers is in how the PWS rebarrels M40's - the reface the receiver every time a rifle comes in for rebarreling, again - why I don't know. This causes problems for chassis manufacturers in that they have to be able to accomadate a constantly moving recoil lug placement. The plan is to keep the M40 around until 2020 at which point it'll be replaced. |
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