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Posted: 3/28/2023 12:43:15 PM EDT
In the process of building my first 6.5 Creedmoor rifle. Starting out with exactly ZERO 6.5CM ammo. Usually when I build a 308 or 223 rifle, I will run 10 or more different factory loads through it to test which is most accurate, then that particular load becomes “the one” I use with that rifle or upper. I have a pretty varied stash of 308 and 223 to chose from, but no 6.5.
To save me from wasting $$ on a bunch of options that are not likely to work, I’m hoping someone who has shot a lot of 6.5CM can point me to a few good options of factory ammo. Barrel is “Ballistic Advantage 24? 6.5 Creedmoor, Rifle Length Fluted, 416R stainless, 936?) (Premium Series), 1:8 twist” Upper will be lapped, heat-fit barrel to upper (upper receiver very slightly undersized) Hoping for a 0.5MOA rifle w/ factory ammo. Anyone happen to have this or similar barrel and can share what it likes? Thanks. |
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I have had good luck (results) in 3 different rifles (LaRue [goes w/o saying], RPR and a Kelbly bolt) with S&B and Hornady American Gunner for “inexpensive” loads for sighting in and general practice.
For serious accuracy work, I have stuck with the heavier (140-7gr) Hornady ELDs. |
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check out this six part series.
https://precisionrifleblog.com/2021/10/30/6-5-creedmoor-ammo-test-summary-hit-probability-at-long-range/ |
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Originally Posted By general_cluster: check out this six part series. https://precisionrifleblog.com/2021/10/30/6-5-creedmoor-ammo-test-summary-hit-probability-at-long-range/ View Quote Wow, I never contemplated that the best grouping ammo may not have the highest hit probability. I’ll definitely be reading through all that in detail. |
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.5 MOA with a semi auto and any ammo will be a chore and a lot of luck. I think you need to be more realistic and say under 1 MOA. Especially with a large frame AR. You really need good follow through when shooting a large frame AR for precision.
Try some Hornady 140 ELD-M and some 120 ELD-M. If you can find the Berger try that too. |
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The problem with the “exotics” at the top of the list: they’re exotic…hard to find and expensive.
I have a couple of cases of the FGMM 130 Bergers but have yet to try them. As stated, the S&Bs are readily available and about $1/rnd; the real match ammo approaches twice that. |
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Anything should shoot hornady 140 eld-m well. 143 gr norma match is currently plentiful and cheap compared to other match ammo and seems to be reliably accurate in everything I've seen. That said, I haven't shot any myself. Hornady American Gunner (Hornady Black is the same thing) 140 bthp used to be my go to practice ammo as it was fairly close to eld-m out to 600 but it's been super hard to find since 2020. S&B 140 fmj and psp used to be stupid cheap but is known to be temperature sensitive and show pressure signs in a lot of rifles despite being slow. With it's current cost compared to what it was, it's not something I look for. I don't have any experience with their 142 gr match ammo. I suspect it's going to have the same powder as the others and have large SD and ES for match ammo. Federal GMM with the 130 Berger is pretty universally liked as well. Winchester USA Ready 140 gr seems like a good option for barrel break-in( if you're one of those types) and could be a good option for a go-to practice round. I've seen it group sub-moa in one guy's rifle at the range. He had no complaints but hadn't chrono'd it so no clue how consistent it is. That is a sample size of one since I've seen no one else talking about it. Whatever you do, don't buy that Aguila 140 gr stuff that's everywhere. Yes it's cheap, but across the board no one I've seen online or talked to in person had any luck getting any kind of group out of it. I'm talking custom rifles with custom barrels grouping 3 moa bad.
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My go to for factory ammo is Hornady Black, aka American Gunner 140 grn HPBT. It's pretty accurate from my gun, an old DPMS heavy barrel with a 1 in 8.5" twist. I also reload the same projectile and can manage 1/2" at 100 if I do my part.
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I have the same barrel. Hornady 147g ELD Match has been fantastic in my rifle.
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Originally Posted By 3one5: I have the same barrel. Hornady 147g ELD Match has been fantastic in my rifle. View Quote Similar story here. My 20" Ballistic Advantage 6.5 Creedmoor barrel has shot pretty much everything well, but the 147 ELD-M factory stuff was always <0.75 MOA at 100 yd in 5 round groups. Hornady American Gunner 140 BTHP was a close second place. No problem out to 1k yd with either, and that is the longest range I have available to me. |
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I just purchased this exact barrel for my 6.5 build. For factory ammo Sig 140 OTM’s, Hornady 120g eld-m and 140g eld-m, lastly Hornady Black 140g BTHP all grouped at +or- 1” at 10” yards. Now I’m reloading and found that 140g ELD-M’s love 38g of varget. Hope this helps…I would insert a picture of my target but can’t figure out how to make it happen….
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I have the same barrel only 22”. Loves 38g of varget as well but I’m getting some serious pressure signs. Are you seeing this as well?
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EVO, could I ask what kind of stock you have. Wanting to build a 6.5 and really like the stock. Is that rifle length ?.
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