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Posted: 1/20/2011 1:31:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mosin_Nagant:
I put this together the other day, and am looking for suggestions on what to add/remove or general comments. I see it as a 3-5 day SHTF pack. I did do an 8.3 mile hike/day camp out with it in my intended bug out location (rifle included), and it did kinda suck, but was not impossible by any means, and I could do a lot more were I in a real survival situation. I made Top Ramen with tuna to test out the stove. I do want to do an overnight, or more camp out, but I'm not really experienced with this type of thing and don't want to put myself in potentially real danger. I have a couple friends who backpack, and want to go with them soon. For food, I was thinking a couple bags/packs of tuna, top ramen, a couple MREs, then some jerky and mixed nuts. What is good as far water purification? My intended BOL has a clean (looking) stream, I was thinking purification tablets. But this is something I know nothing about. So here's my pack: Click for high res 1 LA Police Gear 3-day Pack 2 Water (that is water and not vodka  )3 Wool Blanket 4 AR15/20rd mag 5 Poncho/tarp 6 Sterno Stove and fuel 7 .22lr conversion 8 Notepad/pencil/pen/sharpie 9 .22lr ammo 10 Bayonet/ 3 30rd AR mags 11 Spare clothes 12 Silverware 13 50ft paracord 14 Waterproof matches/lighter 15 Toilet paper (and kindling) 16 Wool Cap 17 Sunglasses 18 Multi tool 19 Shooting glasses/earplugs 20 Medical kit 21 Hatchet 22 Gloves 23 Tri-fold shovel 24 .380 Taurus 25 Flashlight/batteries I have no idea how much it weighs, and terrible at guessing weight. <a href="http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2328/nump.jpg" target="_blank">http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2328/nump.jpg</a>
Great start. For water I would get a nalgene type plastic bottle and an MSR waterworks filter. that should drop your weight and give you a lot of drinkable water in WA. I would keep the hachet. fires are important and you may need to split wood to get to something sort of dry if between the months of august and june. its worth the weight. Cotton clothes are not good for you when they get wet. WA they will get wet. Poly blend cargo pants are better. |
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Posted: 2/4/2011 10:43:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NWRuger: Originally Posted By Mosin_Nagant: I put this together the other day, and am looking for suggestions on what to add/remove or general comments. I see it as a 3-5 day SHTF pack. I did do an 8.3 mile hike/day camp out with it in my intended bug out location (rifle included), and it did kinda suck, but was not impossible by any means, and I could do a lot more were I in a real survival situation. I made Top Ramen with tuna to test out the stove. I do want to do an overnight, or more camp out, but I'm not really experienced with this type of thing and don't want to put myself in potentially real danger. I have a couple friends who backpack, and want to go with them soon. For food, I was thinking a couple bags/packs of tuna, top ramen, a couple MREs, then some jerky and mixed nuts. What is good as far water purification? My intended BOL has a clean (looking) stream, I was thinking purification tablets. But this is something I know nothing about. So here's my pack: Click for high res 1 LA Police Gear 3-day Pack 2 Water (that is water and not vodka )3 Wool Blanket 4 AR15/20rd mag 5 Poncho/tarp 6 Sterno Stove and fuel 7 .22lr conversion 8 Notepad/pencil/pen/sharpie 9 .22lr ammo 10 Bayonet/ 3 30rd AR mags 11 Spare clothes 12 Silverware 13 50ft paracord 14 Waterproof matches/lighter 15 Toilet paper (and kindling) 16 Wool Cap 17 Sunglasses 18 Multi tool 19 Shooting glasses/earplugs 20 Medical kit 21 Hatchet 22 Gloves 23 Tri-fold shovel 24 .380 Taurus 25 Flashlight/batteries I have no idea how much it weighs, and terrible at guessing weight. <a href="http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2328/nump.jpg" target="_blank">http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2328/nump.jpg</a> Great start. For water I would get a nalgene type plastic bottle and an MSR waterworks filter. that should drop your weight and give you a lot of drinkable water in WA. I would keep the hachet. fires are important and you may need to split wood to get to something sort of dry if between the months of august and june. its worth the weight. Cotton clothes are not good for you when they get wet. WA they will get wet. Poly blend cargo pants are better. very nice |
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Posted: 2/11/2011 9:01:32 PM EDT
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Glad to see no one's forgetting their eyes.
For those of you who (still) have 20/10 or better (I used to be one of you) and "don't need eyeglasses", I would still suggest some compact magnifier glasses. It's a real bitch digging out splinters or trying to do fine work in low light conditions. I have these in my GHBs/BOBs in my med kit. They come in a crushproof rubberized case: 
Don't be shy about getting a substantial magnification (like +2.50) - it's always better to have moar image... |
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Posted: 2/24/2011 11:14:02 PM EDT
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a tag...this is one.
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Posted: 3/1/2011 12:59:28 AM EDT
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sirensong's bag-buying addiction strikes again. found a kelty jaunt for $10, and couldn't pass it up for my essentials bag––i love the thing! the battlelab has been provisionally demoted to the range bag, pending abuse testing on the kelty. i want to make sure the thing doesn't fall apart––the fabric feels soooo much more delicate.
but kelty has protus' stamp of approval, so i'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 7:32:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirensong: sirensong's bag-buying addiction strikes again. found a kelty jaunt for $10, and couldn't pass it up for my essentials bag––i love the thing! the battlelab has been provisionally demoted to the range bag, pending abuse testing on the kelty. i want to make sure the thing doesn't fall apart––the fabric feels soooo much more delicate. but kelty has protus' stamp of approval, so i'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. so far my stuff has held up. But my ghb is a cbak mule, and my hikers are my keltys. The stuff i see out there now is much more lighter. My 4500 tahoe is almost 500d, while the 4500 yote ( new style pack) feels like 300+d, and not as thick. While my kelty falcon ( military) is all 500d and 1000d. Most packs (smaller ones) all seem to fail inthe same spots ( seams,straps) from being over loaded. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 2:36:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By protus: Originally Posted By sirensong: sirensong's bag-buying addiction strikes again. found a kelty jaunt for $10, and couldn't pass it up for my essentials bag––i love the thing! the battlelab has been provisionally demoted to the range bag, pending abuse testing on the kelty. i want to make sure the thing doesn't fall apart––the fabric feels soooo much more delicate. but kelty has protus' stamp of approval, so i'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. so far my stuff has held up. But my ghb is a cbak mule, and my hikers are my keltys. The stuff i see out there now is much more lighter. My 4500 tahoe is almost 500d, while the 4500 yote ( new style pack) feels like 300+d, and not as thick. While my kelty falcon ( military) is all 500d and 1000d. Most packs (smaller ones) all seem to fail inthe same spots ( seams,straps) from being over loaded. do you have any experience with the jaunt? it's the kidney pack, and i have it loaded with aboout 10#. thes suspension seem ok, but my rifle mag carriage is a bit wonky––i'm running 3 mags in an old style alice pouch, which is tucked into one of the exterior water bottle holders. not the best arrangement, but i can at least access my mags without having to unzip the bag. the nylon feels super light, but i figure that at only $10, it'll be a good experiment. |
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Posted: 3/14/2011 5:43:49 PM EDT
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should be fine if not over loaded. i tried the lumbar pack route. didnt care for them much.... but the newer one sout there with shoulder straps etc..kinda peak my intrest some......but not much,
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Posted: 3/16/2011 3:46:00 PM EDT
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Here some pics of my kit. I have it set up for 1 week because of my current situation. If I had to guess I would say its upwords of 45lbs. I need to find a better pack it though. I think I have a really short torso, and I just get my old kelty pack adjusted just right.
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Posted: 3/17/2011 6:22:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jerad]
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Here is what I'm assembling, I already own some of this and I'm working on the other stuff. I'm trying to set this up as a true bug out bag, a little more than just a 3 day pack. Many of the clothing items/shoes will be put on when grabbing this BOB, so they will most likely be in a plastic bag on the outside of the pack. Any input is appreciated as this is a first for me.
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Posted: 3/24/2011 7:25:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Didn't read all 21 pages but one thing I'll add to those that have a Bug Out Loaction have you prestocked equipment/supplies there. This would be a cache and there are three general types.
Burial- Pack in drums/ammo cans/plastic boxes and buried Concealment- Could be in crates under a tarp/in a cave/building/storage shed etc Sumerged- Packed in waterproofed containers and weighted down. Make sure that bundle is secured to bottom to prevent drifting or surfacing. Can be fresh or salt water. If tides are a concern emplace during low tide. On all caches make a cache report so you know where and how to uncover. Items to be cached are items that are too heavy for you BOB that you might need for a prolong sustainment/enviroment conditions (winter), etc. More reading TC 31-29A Special Forces Caching Techniques Caching Techniques I did a burial cache in 2x 50 cal cans for 15 yrs in West Texas. Contents were very serviceable after that time. That's why it is important to make a good report for you forget small details after 15 yrs! CD |
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Posted: 3/31/2011 1:15:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By protus:
Originally Posted By mustangracer:
Originally Posted By protus:
what saves weigh onmy end is i have no tent. i use the light weight tarps that i make as a hobby. they are all on avg under 6.5 OZ's. i have two in this kit and they dont weigh over 9 oz's combined. and both are 5x8(7)'s. Could you possibly post up a pic of these, I think it's a great idea and a helluva lot lighter than a tent. this is one of the set ups. which im giving away as a present to a family memeber. 12oz with stakes and all. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/feb26.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/decshelterfront.jpg 2nd one twice as big,, and 14.5 oz's loaded. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/may11.jpg the others are plain jane 5x7(8)s with 8 tie downs. they fit in a zip lock http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/SOSprotus/P8060048.jpg desert night camo set ups like this arent the best but for light weight they cant be beat. i also use a bivy sacka nd even my .3miltrash bags as a foot pring. The green one went through 3 days of non stop fla rain with out fail! sucked but i stayed dry! Since you make these yourself, is there a company that makes them as well? I carry a tarp, but there is nothing light about it. Any info would be appreciated. |
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Posted: 5/14/2011 12:57:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: floridahunter07]
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Here is what I've got so far in an old L.L. Bean backpack (will be upgrading to a Kelty Redwing 3100 in a few weeks) that I keep in my trunk. I know at this moment there is no food or water in the bag but I always have food in my car and there is also a case of bottled water in my trunk too. This kit is in a serious upgrade phase (I got about half-way through last time I tried to build it and quit), so bear with me.
And yes, I have lived out of it overnight, two nights in a row. I went to my friend's house the first morning and showered, changed, etc. with clothes I had in my car, then the second evening went back out to the pasture and tried it again. Off the top of my head, I know I need to add: - Magnesium fire starter - Another Bic lighter or two couldn't hurt - Spare CR123 and AAA batteries - Serious shelter (some kind of bag and/or light tent, anything would be better than that damn poncho) - More 550 cord - OTC meds (Benedryl, Ibuprofen, some kind of anti-diarrhea medicine, caffeine pills) - Water purification method - Super glue, few more feet of duct tape. - Good fixed blade knife - Clothing - Rain gear (I HATE being wet, even in the dead of summer, not to mention the obvious other effects) - Rite in Rain pad/pen/pencil - Small spare AR parts - Visor-mounted head lamp of some sort - Light sticks (just gotta find them) - Gloves (same as light sticks, I have a set of Mechanix-type gloves in my shooting gear somewhere) - Spare eyeglasses (had two pairs of spares, broke my main ones and the spare pair in a period of two weeks right when I left for a Christmas trip and haven't gotten a cheap back-up pair)
LAPG Operator pants 3x socks 2x boxer briefs Beanie cap Boonie hat Baseball cap (not pictured) 
Roll of TP Huggies wipes Toothbrush and toothpaste Baby powder Preventil inhaler Hand sanitizer Razor Prescription drugs (GSW to the elbow from a foot away leaves my arm sore as hell after I sleep in the dirt so I try to circumvent that if possible, but they aren't necessary by any means) 
AR (most of the time if I go away it's in my trunk because my trips involve going shooting 90% of the time) Glock 19 w/ TLR-1 (carry gun) 3 Pmags of M193 3 G19 mags of Ranger SXT 50 rounds Federal 9mm 115gr FMJ 
Army poncho 50 feet of 550 cord Windbreaker 3 large black garbage bags Emergency poncho (not pictured) 
Whistle Gerber saw Magic towel (vacuum sealed washcloth, basically, you put it in water and it grows to full size) Sting kit Potable aqua tabs and taste remover Camelbak cleaning kit 35mm fishing kit 2-way radio (other one is charging) Utensils Pen with 8-10 feet of duct tape 
Dryer lint Matches Bic lighter Altoids pocket kit (matches, Bic lighter, Swiss Army knife, glasses repair kit, quarters for pay phone [is it obvious that hasn't been touched since I was 12? ])
3L Camelbak 2L Camelbak 
IFAK Like I said, I need some things... alcohol stove or small stove, more fire-starting options, some lightweight cooking stuff, food (Clif bars, oatmeal, Mountain House, etc), better shelter, blah blah blah, but all of this stuff has already served me well just for finding a place to sleep out of the elements. It will be much, much better this summer. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2011 2:10:43 PM EDT
[#14]
I've got a good BOB question that I don't think I've ever seen answered:
How do you organize everything inside? I see all these great photos of the contents, but nobody ever shows how they pack their bags. Do you guys like use ziplocs or mesh bags as internal dividers? |
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Posted: 5/14/2011 4:00:02 PM EDT
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I just put all like items in a ziploc bag as seen with the underwear and socks.
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Posted: 5/14/2011 4:12:16 PM EDT
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OSTAG
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Posted: 5/28/2011 7:42:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: protus]
[#17]
Originally Posted By malefactor: Originally Posted By protus: Originally Posted By mustangracer: Originally Posted By protus: what saves weigh onmy end is i have no tent. i use the light weight tarps that i make as a hobby. they are all on avg under 6.5 OZ's. i have two in this kit and they dont weigh over 9 oz's combined. and both are 5x8(7)'s. Could you possibly post up a pic of these, I think it's a great idea and a helluva lot lighter than a tent. this is one of the set ups. which im giving away as a present to a family memeber. 12oz with stakes and all. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/feb26.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/decshelterfront.jpg 2nd one twice as big,, and 14.5 oz's loaded. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/protus/may11.jpg the others are plain jane 5x7(8)s with 8 tie downs. they fit in a zip lock http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/SOSprotus/P8060048.jpg desert night camo set ups like this arent the best but for light weight they cant be beat. i also use a bivy sacka nd even my .3miltrash bags as a foot pring. The green one went through 3 days of non stop fla rain with out fail! sucked but i stayed dry! Since you make these yourself, is there a company that makes them as well? I carry a tarp, but there is nothing light about it. Any info would be appreciated. Most places sell them ( REI,CAMPMOR) but they wontbe OD,tan etc, or be as light. There is a person here that sells them. look up THEREISNOSPOON. If you have a basic machine and skills it'll take a newb about 10$ and 1 hours time to make one. here is my films showing how to.  hope that helps. |
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Posted: 5/28/2011 7:45:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridahunter07: I just put all like items in a ziploc bag as seen with the underwear and socks. zip locks. light,cheap. Fla hunter have you humped that redwing with all that stuff for any distance( sans weapons)..or just camped out of it. |
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Posted: 6/15/2011 10:28:12 PM EDT
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Sill need some things and to get rid if some thinks but overall I like it so far but only time will tell more.
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Posted: 6/17/2011 2:10:24 PM EDT
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SHOOTER101 - Do i spy a bunch of county comm gear?
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Posted: 6/17/2011 7:26:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2011 7:54:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunselman:
SHOOTER101 - Do i spy a bunch of county comm gear? Yeah there is a few peices mixed in there. |
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Posted: 6/18/2011 1:54:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FairlyLaidBack: I've got a good BOB question that I don't think I've ever seen answered: How do you organize everything inside? I see all these great photos of the contents, but nobody ever shows how they pack their bags. Do you guys like use ziplocs or mesh bags as internal dividers? really good question, IMO. I use stuff sacks, for which i catch flak from the ultralighters. they're right––i probably have a full pound of bags inside my pack––but i just hate chasing little things around the bottom of the main compartment. i have a top-open, which is packed from bottom to top as follows: -30deg sleeping bag -jetboil/food bag -water filter -hygiene/repair kit/BBK -socks, watch cap, scarf with my collapsible rod/fishing kit in one of the two reservoir pockets inside the main compartment. |
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Posted: 6/24/2011 11:51:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sirensong: Originally Posted By FairlyLaidBack: I've got a good BOB question that I don't think I've ever seen answered: How do you organize everything inside? I see all these great photos of the contents, but nobody ever shows how they pack their bags. Do you guys like use ziplocs or mesh bags as internal dividers? really good question, IMO. I use stuff sacks, for which i catch flak from the ultralighters. they're right––i probably have a full pound of bags inside my pack––but i just hate chasing little things around the bottom of the main compartment. i have a top-open, which is packed from bottom to top as follows: -30deg sleeping bag -jetboil/food bag -water filter -hygiene/repair kit/BBK -socks, watch cap, scarf with my collapsible rod/fishing kit in one of the two reservoir pockets inside the main compartment. i run it similar. bottom to top sleepbag clothes h20 bladder food fluff filter fak Since im running the kelty falcon, i pack my stuff with heavy items at the center line and high, with soft items filling the sides . My therma rest is shoved on one side, shelter,ground sheet,water filter stacked on the other. in front of the bladder goes clothes,then my heavy food, then any grab now fluff items( camera,gloves, watch cap or rain gear) my cook set and pistol. lil items like flash lights,fire kits all get put in zip locks and put in the smaller pouches. I keep the what i would grab items in those, zip locked. the stuff in the main part of the pack is all items i wont need till i set camp,. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2011 9:52:52 PM EDT
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Mine is more of a GHB/BOB. I drive a truck for work & am routinely 130-150 miles (by road) from home daily. This, to me, is what I need to make it home pending a SHTF walk-out event.
The bag is an Academy closeout special that was in the hunting section. Aprox. 2500-3000 cu. w/2L hydration bladder. It also has two external pockets-one on each side and a seperate exterior bag that is aprox. 12x18x4. Both the main & attached bag have molle & d-ring attachment points. It also has a rifle/bow compression holder w/support between the two bags. I am carring the following: Shelter&Bedding: 6x8 tarp(this needs upgraded for lightweight one). Lightweight rainsuit-from MC kit. Lw fleece blnkt Cooking: MSR whisperlite intrnl +2 22oz btls MSR Backlite 2l/1L nested w/wspr lite inside. Wmart alum. nested ck/dnr set with hobo knife/fork/spoon&cup. OR Camp kitchen set w/various spices Fire: Bic lghtr/wp matches/magnsm fstr/ dryr lint/0000 st wool Food: 4 MRE complete 2 MH dinners 3 Inst oatmeal w/brn sugar 2 Inst grits/cream of wheat 3 Protien bars(good flvr balanced carbs/protien since I'm diabetic gotta watch this) 2 3.?? Oz sunflower kernels (fluff 4 me) 4 Gaterade drk mxs (fp/org/LmLn) Water: Above mentioned hydration bldr 2L Kydn Hiker Pro Purification tabs for gardia & cys?? 1 16.9 oz btl water (mainly 4 measuring water when cooking.) Sanitation&Hygene: Sm btl dawn extra(in trial size btl) Aprox 20-30 sentfree wetwipes Razor Trvl toothbrush w/ toothpaste Shamwow type towel Sentfree antiperspirant Fak&Medical/personal : Enhanced j&j fak(added 2 ace bndgs,purel,10 qc 4x4 spongs,10 qc 2x2 spngs,neosporin,4pr exam glvs lrg,&2lrg compression bndgs) All personal diabetic meds Old perscrpt glasses in hardcase Tools&Security: 1911 (I have ccp) 3 extra mags & holster/carriers 50 extra PDX1 rounds Gerber fixed blade Kershaw leek(always on me) Diamond stone small Schrade multi tool Misc.: 100 +/- yds paracord 2 mesh gamebags Sml spool camp twine Cleaning kit for pistol Spare recoil sprng/ firing pin&spring Sm btl 100% deet Fishing kit minus pole Almost forgot: Clothing: 2 pr wm med duty cargo pants- 1 tan 1 sage or brush green 2 t-shirts (wife beaters my daughter says) brown & green 3pr extra socks 4pr bxrs 2 lngslvd overshirts tan green I know this setup weights 31lbs & weight will diminish some as I go. I am looking at a minimum of 4-6 days on foot to get home from furthest point. Water in route not a problem- plenty lakes & flowing streams. Hit the list & let me know what you think please. In my opinion, I don't know everything yet- I'm still alive & learning. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2011 10:47:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By Toyforever:
Mine is more of a GHB/BOB. I drive a truck for work & am routinely 130-150 miles (by road) from home daily. This, to me, is what I need to make it home pending a SHTF walk-out event.
The bag is an Academy closeout special that was in the hunting section. Aprox. 2500-3000 cu. w/2L hydration bladder. It also has two external pockets-one on each side and a seperate exterior bag that is aprox. 12x18x4. Both the main & attached bag have molle & d-ring attachment points. It also has a rifle/bow compression holder w/support between the two bags. I am carring the following: Shelter&Bedding: 6x8 tarp(this needs upgraded for lightweight one). Lightweight rainsuit-from MC kit. Lw fleece blnkt Cooking: MSR whisperlite intrnl +2 22oz btls MSR Backlite 2l/1L nested w/wspr lite inside. Wmart alum. nested ck/dnr set with hobo knife/fork/spoon&cup. OR Camp kitchen set w/various spices Fire: Bic lghtr/wp matches/magnsm fstr/ dryr lint/0000 st wool Food: 4 MRE complete 2 MH dinners 3 Inst oatmeal w/brn sugar 2 Inst grits/cream of wheat 3 Protien bars(good flvr balanced carbs/protien since I'm diabetic gotta watch this) 2 3.?? Oz sunflower kernels (fluff 4 me) 4 Gaterade drk mxs (fp/org/LmLn) Water: Above mentioned hydration bldr 2L Kydn Hiker Pro Purification tabs for gardia & cys?? 1 16.9 oz btl water (mainly 4 measuring water when cooking.) Sanitation&Hygene: Sm btl dawn extra(in trial size btl) Aprox 20-30 sentfree wetwipes Razor Trvl toothbrush w/ toothpaste Shamwow type towel Sentfree antiperspirant Fak&Medical/personal : Enhanced j&j fak(added 2 ace bndgs,purel,10 qc 4x4 spongs,10 qc 2x2 spngs,neosporin,4pr exam glvs lrg,&2lrg compression bndgs) All personal diabetic meds Old perscrpt glasses in hardcase Tools&Security: 1911 (I have ccp) 3 extra mags & holster/carriers 50 extra PDX1 rounds Gerber fixed blade Kershaw leek(always on me) Diamond stone small Schrade multi tool Misc.: 100 +/- yds paracord 2 mesh gamebags Sml spool camp twine Cleaning kit for pistol Spare recoil sprng/ firing pin&spring Sm btl 100% deet Fishing kit minus pole Almost forgot: Clothing: 2 pr wm med duty cargo pants- 1 tan 1 sage or brush green 2 t-shirts (wife beaters my daughter says) brown & green 3pr extra socks 4pr bxrs 2 lngslvd overshirts tan green I know this setup weights 31lbs & weight will diminish some as I go. I am looking at a minimum of 4-6 days on foot to get home from furthest point. Water in route not a problem- plenty lakes & flowing streams. Hit the list & let me know what you think please. In my opinion, I don't know everything yet- I'm still alive & learning. [/quote rifle???? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2011 5:27:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fpd164:
Originally Posted By Toyforever:
Mine is more of a GHB/BOB. I drive a truck for work & am routinely 130-150 miles (by road) from home daily. This, to me, is what I need to make it home pending a SHTF walk-out event.
The bag is an Academy closeout special that was in the hunting section. Aprox. 2500-3000 cu. w/2L hydration bladder. It also has two external pockets-one on each side and a seperate exterior bag that is aprox. 12x18x4. Both the main & attached bag have molle & d-ring attachment points. It also has a rifle/bow compression holder w/support between the two bags. I am carring the following: Shelter&Bedding: 6x8 tarp(this needs upgraded for lightweight one). Lightweight rainsuit-from MC kit. Lw fleece blnkt Cooking: MSR whisperlite intrnl +2 22oz btls MSR Backlite 2l/1L nested w/wspr lite inside. Wmart alum. nested ck/dnr set with hobo knife/fork/spoon&cup. OR Camp kitchen set w/various spices Fire: Bic lghtr/wp matches/magnsm fstr/ dryr lint/0000 st wool Food: 4 MRE complete 2 MH dinners 3 Inst oatmeal w/brn sugar 2 Inst grits/cream of wheat 3 Protien bars(good flvr balanced carbs/protien since I'm diabetic gotta watch this) 2 3.?? Oz sunflower kernels (fluff 4 me) 4 Gaterade drk mxs (fp/org/LmLn) Water: Above mentioned hydration bldr 2L Kydn Hiker Pro Purification tabs for gardia & cys?? 1 16.9 oz btl water (mainly 4 measuring water when cooking.) Sanitation&Hygene: Sm btl dawn extra(in trial size btl) Aprox 20-30 sentfree wetwipes Razor Trvl toothbrush w/ toothpaste Shamwow type towel Sentfree antiperspirant Fak&Medical/personal : Enhanced j&j fak(added 2 ace bndgs,purel,10 qc 4x4 spongs,10 qc 2x2 spngs,neosporin,4pr exam glvs lrg,&2lrg compression bndgs) All personal diabetic meds Old perscrpt glasses in hardcase Tools&Security: 1911 (I have ccp) 3 extra mags & holster/carriers 50 extra PDX1 rounds Gerber fixed blade Kershaw leek(always on me) Diamond stone small Schrade multi tool Misc.: 100 +/- yds paracord 2 mesh gamebags Sml spool camp twine Cleaning kit for pistol Spare recoil sprng/ firing pin&spring Sm btl 100% deet Fishing kit minus pole Almost forgot: Clothing: 2 pr wm med duty cargo pants- 1 tan 1 sage or brush green 2 t-shirts (wife beaters my daughter says) brown & green 3pr extra socks 4pr bxrs 2 lngslvd overshirts tan green I know this setup weights 31lbs & weight will diminish some as I go. I am looking at a minimum of 4-6 days on foot to get home from furthest point. Water in route not a problem- plenty lakes & flowing streams. Hit the list & let me know what you think please. In my opinion, I don't know everything yet- I'm still alive & learning. [/quote rifle???? Would love to have my ar- BUT- Weapon of any kind against company policy & I haven't figured out a way to break it down far enought NOT to be recognizable. Too many people I work with are avid shooters/hunters and would spot it right away. With the current situation now I do not need to give anybody at work amunition with which to get myself fired. As far as the pistol goes- concealed means concealed!- it I can't do that properly I don't need it to begin with. Also, my stance is, better to beg forgiveness than to ask permission when I know what the answer will be. I am looking at possibly a couple throw away/beaters that I could geocaches(sp?) Somewhere alog my route as a possible solution. Anybody have more questions or constructive words for me? Thanks to the hive I am working to make this the best possible for my situation. |
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Posted: 8/12/2011 8:51:35 PM EDT
[#31]
Small auto pistol in your boot?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2011 6:34:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tack87]
[#32]
I am just getting ready to convert my old camping backpack to a nice new bob. Unlike alot of what I read here I am going on the extremely light side. I will pretty much just have the following.
Taruas 45acp w/ 2 spare mags ar-15 2 spare mags multi tool pocket knife sharpening stone flashlight w/ xtra batt. compass map folding saw magnesium block flint striker zippo 2 bics water proof matches dryer lint vasoline combo duct tape 550 cord cup small pot book of safe plants/fungi am/fm radio foil buck knife fishin line fish hooks jacket watch cap thermal shirt/pants socks gloves space blanket tarp bandages gause peroxide alcohol wipes 100oz camelbak beef jerky power bars freeze dried food harmonica that is about all i've got. Any comments are wedlcome. Oh yeah and some dog food and bowl if I can get to the dog when I BO, I wich case he has his own bob. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2011 5:38:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Just some pics....At work and real busy right now so I dont have the time to list items in the pack....I'll get to that later...
Bug Out Bag and Vehicle |
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Posted: 8/21/2011 9:27:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By 2StateTrigger:
Just some pics....At work and real busy right now so I dont have the time to list items in the pack....I'll get to that later... Bug Out Bag and Vehicle very cool |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/23/2011 1:32:54 AM EDT
[#35]
Originally Posted By blt-2-drg:
I have been trying to come up with a lightweight pack lately for a SHTF situation. I do have other more extensive gear packed up and ready to bug out aswell as gear stored in the truck. My thinking behind something lightweight is i have a daughter that will be here this month so grabbing her and her bag will be priority and i dont want 50 pounds of gear on my back. The bag is a TAG Sustainment pack. Its nice and small, measures 16 inches tall and 9 inches wide. It carries 3 AR mags and 1 pistol mag on it. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/blt2drg/Gunbroker/DSC04907.jpg Contents of bottom outside pouch: 1 pr gloves MSR pack towell Extra batteries Spare AR parts Otis cleaning kit http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/blt2drg/Gunbroker/DSC04908.jpg Contents of middle outside pouch: Fresh bath wipes Water purification tablets Stainless steel pot Tin foil wetfire tinder lighter Fire Starter Clif Bar Organic fruit snacks Hard candy Flavored drink mix Adventure Medical kits pocket survival kit Anti monkey butt wipes Eating utensil 2 glow sticks http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/blt2drg/Gunbroker/DSC04910.jpg Contents of top outside pouch: Para cord Gorilla tape Zip ties Knife sharpener Compass Gerber saw Go towell Gerber Axle head/vest light Pepper spray Clif bar Insect repellent Itch relief spray http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/blt2drg/Gunbroker/DSC04912.jpg Contents of Large back pouch: 2 MRE’s 2 contractor grade trash bags Egret Equinox 8x10 nylon tarp 1-pr socks Sewing kit 2 packs of waterproof matches Pocket fishing kit Loctite brand waterproof super glue Duct tape Emergency bivvy sack Emergency foil blanket 1 roll of camp toilet paper http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/blt2drg/Gunbroker/DSC04913.jpg I surprisingly have some room left so suggestions are welcome. I have an “original space blanket” brand all weather blanket coming to replace the foil one. Also, this pack is meant to go with my chest rig. It can even attach to the back of it. You’ll notice things missing from this like first aid, hydration, knife, and multitool because they are all on my chest rig. That's a really nice set up but it doesn't really have a defined purpose. Where would you need a stainless steal pot, Gerber saw, and a fishing kit when you don't even have a change of clothes, gortex type outerwear, sleeping bag, or some sort of semi-permanent shelter? It's half geared towards an overnight trip home on foot and half geared toward setting up camp off the grid for a long haul. I don't know anything about your climate but it just seems unbalanced. With that said, that's a nice sized bag for as much stuff as you have crammed in there. If there was a secure way to attach a stuff bag with shelter and clothes, I'd consider picking one up. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2011 7:54:31 PM EDT
[#36]
Ok, I want to play. My bag serves multiple purposes and I think that's killing me on weight.
Purpose 1: USMC Reserve 2 - 4 day field drills You'll notice a lot of it is USMC issued gear. The stuff pictured is stuff I got surplus because if I quit the reserves and have to turn in my gear, I don't want to have to turn in half my BOB to supply. But this is what I take to the field for drills plus flak, Kevlar, mission specific gear, etc. Purpose 2: Backpacking Hence lots of shelter. I like to be comfy. Purpose 3: Law Enforcement I'm on call 24/7 as a part of a chase team to track down and recapture escaped detainees/prisoners/inmates in the desert on foot. We're required to keep a bag ready to deploy for 3-5 days off the grid and this is it. Purpose 4: BOB/GHB There's not a lot of added weight in "survival" type stuff but there is some in my Camelbak. Climate: Arizona desert, 800ft Weather: Winter 35-45 lows and 60-70 highs, Summer 80-90 lows and 110-120 highs Load Bearing Gear (This elaborate LBV, duty belt, and leg rigs are for work, I'd strip a lot of it for BO and shave some pounds) -Camelbak Delta 5 Vest 3.1L bladder 2x double M4 mag pouch w/ 4 30rd mags Baton Pouch w/ 26" baton Com pouch w/ HT1000 radio FB pouch w/ OC spray or M4 suppressor Admin Pouch w/ Olight M20, Bruton compass, and AO topo maps Dump bag Flex Cuffs x4 -Duty Belt w/ 2 mag pouch w/ 2 15rd Glock 22 magazines Hand cuff pouch w/ S&W cuffs PPE pouch w/ pocket resuscitator Gerber multi-tool in pouch -Left leg rig Molle platform USMC IFAK w/ hand sanitizer and other small stuff added Monocular Pouch for GPS Pouch for 2 additional M4 mags -Right leg rig Blade Tech leg rig w/ Glock Streamlight TLR-1 Gerber fixed blade back up knife 1 Day Pack (This is also for work when we do 1 day training. We typically do 8-20 miles on foot in the desert. But it doubles as my hiking day trip pack and I carry it in my truck daily) -Camelbak Assault pack 3.1L (clips to LBV w/ S-carabiners or worn by shoulder straps) Camelbak Elixer tablets Camelbak cleaning kit w/ extra bite valve Water purification pills MSR inline filter for bladder Red Chem Lights x5 1 MRE Spork OTIS sniper cleaning kit -Small blue stuff sack pocket survival kit (in Camelbak Assault pack) Zip ties, tin foil, duct tape, electrical tape, 550 cord, and wire Wipes Water purification tablets Magnesium fire starter w/ dryer lint Emergency blankets x2 Extra 18650 battery and CR123 batteries Soap strips Mirror Salt & pepper Ear pro Emergency Poncho Wire Saw Knife sharpener Fishing kit Sewing kit Bug out bag 2-5 days (Arcteryx ILBE main pack) -Shelter Catoma EBNS 1 man tent -Compression Sack USMC Poncho liner USMC Field tarp USMC sleeping bag USMC Bivy sack Big Anges sleeping pad - Red stuff sack Desert Gortex Gloves, beenie and shemagh -Green stuff sack 2 pair extra boot socks + liners 2 ex t-shirt 2 ex skivy -Small black hygiene sack Hand Sanitizer Wipes Toothbrush w/ paste Travel bar of soap Razor w/ shave cream Repel 100 insect repellent SPF 100 Sun Block Toilet Paper compressed by food vacuum preserver Laundry Net bag Travel deodorant Water pure tablets Wash cloth -Tools K-bar Canteen w/ Canteen cup and heating stand Solar charger in Pelican 1150 case -Food 3 MREs 5 Days+: Add as many additional MREs and dry stock food I could stuff Extra BDUs Higher Capacity water filtration/purification equipment (don't have yet, no impact no idea) 50* temp or less: USMC waterproofing bag Gortex cold weather bottoms Gortex cold weather top -30* sleeping bag Cold weather socks and gloves Thermal top and bottom The 5 day+ list and cold weather gear would go in a vehicle if I were headed to a very cold climate for some reason. It doesn't get cold enough to carry any of that stuff in AZ. But excluding those, this stuff is still pretty heavy. With 6.2 liters of water, 4 MREs, duty gear, and survival gear, it weighs about 55lbs without rifle and ammo. My LBV and leg rigs are 17lbs of that number because of the Glock w/ mags and 3.1l water bladder. That leaves the main pack at 38 lbs w/ the Camelbak Assault pack strapped to the side. I know I have a lot in the shelter department and could probably shave weight there. And my pack is over kill. It's the most comfortable pack I've ever worn once set up properly. But I'm using maybe 3/4s of it and it's a heavy chunk of equipment on it's own. It's a big pack, but I'm a big guy. I'm 6'5" 210lbs, in my late 20s, and in the shape I need to be in for both my LEO and USMC careers. So I can pack this many, many miles, but it still sucks lol. I haven't weighed my AR and 7 mags but I'm sure that will add another 12-15 lbs or more. So anything I'm missing? Anything completely useless and added weight? I'd say the best thing about the combination of duty gear + the BOB is how the weight is distributed all over my body. That makes it easier than trying to carry 55-70lbs just on my shoulders/back. Pics: (duty gear w/ attached gear is at work in my locker and so is the stuff listed under "tools". No pic of that junk, sorry) Main Pack 
w/ Camelbak on side 
Contents as labeled above (I didn't feel like opening and then repacking all of the stuff sacks for pictures... sorry 
Everything inside and plenty of room left inside the main pack and the top compartment is empty. But plenty heavy already 
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Posted: 8/31/2011 4:54:23 AM EDT
[#37]
Originally Posted By the_end: Contents as labeled above (I didn't feel like opening and then repacking all of the stuff sacks for pictures... sorry http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/leesimons00/IMAG0331.jpg if you want to save a little weight and a ton of space, but don't want to give up your MREs, you can fit 2 complete MREs in 1 pouch by stripping the packaging, repacking them in one pouch, and then duct taping the pouch closed. if you get rid of some of the support items, you can fit 3 entrees, spoon, tabascos, and crackers/drink mixes in one pouch. i lean towards MH for weight savings, but i have 1 pouch set up the second way for quick calories and/or water shortages. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2011 5:13:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Originally Posted By sirensong:
Originally Posted By the_end:
Contents as labeled above (I didn't feel like opening and then repacking all of the stuff sacks for pictures... sorry
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/leesimons00/IMAG0331.jpg if you want to save a little weight and a ton of space, but don't want to give up your MREs, you can fit 2 complete MREs in 1 pouch by stripping the packaging, repacking them in one pouch, and then duct taping the pouch closed. if you get rid of some of the support items, you can fit 3 entrees, spoon, tabascos, and crackers/drink mixes in one pouch. i lean towards MH for weight savings, but i have 1 pouch set up the second way for quick calories and/or water shortages. Thanks for the input. I was actually planning on doing that until I figured out I was no where close to using all the room in my pack. And I don't think shaving less than a pound is worth the trouble honestly. Those MRE bags do a great job of holding water and other things, and the cardboard can be used for fuel. Doesn't really hurt to keep them. I did strip the MRE that goes in my Camelbak though and it's about 1/2 the size of a new MRE in the bag. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2011 9:55:00 AM EDT
[#39]
if i may add.. All of these kits are great ideas... but I have seen no one say non-lubricated condoms :)
They are great for holding water/ purifying water via the sun Light weight and hardly take up space If your worried about breaking the condom you just put it in a sock or stocking I'm sure there are tons of other uses for a condom but these are what I have used them for other then what they are intended for :) Anyone ever see what else a condom can be use for in a survival situation...
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Posted: 9/8/2011 10:06:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By Damack:
if i may add.. All of these kits are great ideas... but I have seen no one say non-lubricated condoms :) They are great for holding water/ purifying water via the sun Light weight and hardly take up space If your worried about breaking the condom you just put it in a sock or stocking I'm sure there are tons of other uses for a condom but these are what I have used them for other then what they are intended for :) Anyone ever see what else a condom can be use for in a survival situation... Used condoms as urniuals when living in holes underground for lengths of time. Tie off and try not to bust them inside the hidesite. CD |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2011 2:12:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Is anyone using a wheeled device of any kind instead of a 'backpack' type of bag.
I'm leery of humping a lot of weight that I could just as easily tote behind me. For example.....anyone using an airline carry-on, a wheeled cooler, or similar drag-behind type of container? I'm particularly interested in something with wheels sufficient to navigate rough terrain. |
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Posted: 9/12/2011 3:03:24 AM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By Titan_2:
Is anyone using a wheeled device of any kind instead of a 'backpack' type of bag. I'm leery of humping a lot of weight that I could just as easily tote behind me. For example.....anyone using an airline carry-on, a wheeled cooler, or similar drag-behind type of container? I'm particularly interested in something with wheels sufficient to navigate rough terrain. If any use large wheels! CD |
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Posted: 9/13/2011 5:05:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By Titan_2: Is anyone using a wheeled device of any kind instead of a 'backpack' type of bag. I'm leery of humping a lot of weight that I could just as easily tote behind me. For example.....anyone using an airline carry-on, a wheeled cooler, or similar drag-behind type of container? I'm particularly interested in something with wheels sufficient to navigate rough terrain. i've considered this numerous times for a kind of "super-bob" for additional supplies, but i've yet to find any consumer-grade cart that would work. the new marine rolling footlocker was interesting, but the price plus the tiny wheels was a turnoff. i've also thought about those bicycle trailers, but i think that someone could fab a better one for less money, and i haven't put the time into it. |
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Posted: 9/13/2011 5:59:40 AM EDT
[#44]
suggest looking at some hunters big game carts.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2011 10:42:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Edvvard]
[#45]
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/18/2011 11:15:21 AM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By FairlyLaidBack:
I've got a good BOB question that I don't think I've ever seen answered: How do you organize everything inside? I see all these great photos of the contents, but nobody ever shows how they pack their bags. Do you guys like use ziplocs or mesh bags as internal dividers? I use Kifaru's lightweight pullouts. They work wonders, and when not in use compact down to nothing. |
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Posted: 9/18/2011 2:08:28 PM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By Titan_2: Is anyone using a wheeled device of any kind instead of a 'backpack' type of bag. I'm leery of humping a lot of weight that I could just as easily tote behind me. For example.....anyone using an airline carry-on, a wheeled cooler, or similar drag-behind type of container? I'm particularly interested in something with wheels sufficient to navigate rough terrain. weight is weight. drag or carry, just different muscle groups. If your not used to it, expect issues. |
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Posted: 9/18/2011 2:26:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By protus:
Originally Posted By floridahunter07:
I just put all like items in a ziploc bag as seen with the underwear and socks. zip locks. light,cheap. Fla hunter have you humped that redwing with all that stuff for any distance( sans weapons)..or just camped out of it. I don't have the Redwing yet, it's all in an old backpack I keep in my trunk. I've camped out of it, haven't hiked with it anywhere. |
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Posted: 9/18/2011 9:43:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Morg308]
[#49]
FWIW the Viet Cong (NVA, Viet Minh etc) used bicycles to haul hundreds of pounds of material. They didn't ride them, just pushed them. I figure you could probably mount 4 MOLLE II main packs (I paid $15 shipped for my last one) as panniers pretty easily. WHy you would want this much gear if your main purpose is to get to your BOL where you should already have the gear stashed, I don't know, but two large packs as rear panniers and two small 3 day packs as front panniers could carry a lot of food if you had a long way to go.
As far as pouches go, external pouches like to tear off ALICE packs, so I tore three (using a blade) off a medium ALICE. I use the main body w/o straps as a large 'kitchen' bag for stove, plates, pots etc. for camping, the smaller pockets work great for things like water filters etc. The German Gebirgsjager used colored tabs on their internal pouches to easily identify what they are. I believe the 10th Mt Division ended up using a similiar system - I've heard reference to it but have never seen any pouches. Campmore has small fleece zipped 'pockets' also. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2011 11:37:29 PM EDT
[#50]
Well I have read a lot of this thread impressive and intended to read more. Now I haven't come to this idea and forgive me if it did come up but what if you take down .22 lr and a box of 50 with you. I live in the middle of nowhere and a lot of squirell rabbits. and if u get close enough you could take a deer if need be. I know alot of these take downs only wear 1-2 of so. Just want to hear advice on it.
Also In my BoB i carry fishing line and hooks doesnt take alot of room and just about any stick makes a good fishing rod. May not work for all but would work for us northerners for sure P.S. I do know you cant survive on game alone |
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