Anyone catch the latest news ?

Apparently a Russian volcano just erupted in the last day or so... unexpectedly. It had been quiet for over 3000 years.

I'll see if I can dig up a link...

Edit to add:

It's the Koryakski volcano in Russia.

LINK TO VIDEO

this one, Koryak Volcano, just went off.  it also went off in '56.  link

I think these are two different Russian volcanos, with similar names.

The Koryakski volcano I mentioned above, hasn't erupted in approx 3500 years... until just noon today...

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Red Dawn. Thanks for all the valuable information guys. keep it coming it will be interesting to see how things work out. Hope it's just this usual series of quakes. Man do I hope it's not going to be an eruption.

j0hn

Cant happen here.......not a chance

The scary thing about Yellowstone is...  it's not just a volcano...  it's a SUPER volcano....

If that bastard pops in a big way...  people in Texas will be shoveling ash.

It's one big bad mofo.

Edit to add:

HERE'S the pic I was looking for...  

And a link to an article from 2005:
http://www.livescience.com/environment/050308_super_volcano.html

If Yellowstone erupts life as we know it will cease to exist. People in Texas won't have to worry about ash.

If I may play devil's advocate...  

Even if Yellowstone only has a small eruption creating a cone volcano in the caldera... what do you guys think the surrounding population is going to do?  

I suspect there will be a great deal of panic and a mass exodus out of the area.  The question is, where would these people go?  How will that affect our society?  

The main thing that worries me is that these people leave, how will the stronger willed farmers in the grain belt handle harvest with fewer people to help?

Now, should people evac the area and go to other places, does anyone have a clue what may happen with crime and other issues?

Mike

+1 - How vunerable would we be to a foreign invasion after a catastropic event like this, New Madrid, or EMP?  Even our closest allies the British would be willing to roll tanks down our streets to take back what was once theirs if we were hurt enough where we couldn't recover.  Not to mention what our own people would do to each other.  Desperate people do desperate things in desperate times.

Yep... now, how do we prepare for such an occurance?  What issues do we need to have addressed?  

Mike

if it's a small (relatively) eruption, then you won't see a lot of displacement - wyoming is not that densely populated around yellowstone.

Five quakes today, (Tuesday), one at 2.5 and four between 0.0 and 0.9 km, highest magnitude 2.8.

today has been relatively busy so far.  a 2.5 and 3.5 w/i 5 minutes of each other at .4 km.  almost on top of each other.

Anybody have an animation of how this would affect the U.S.? I mean predicted ash zones ect. On the East coast over here I think we would be OK for a couple of weeks and then ash will fill the sky and block out the sun causing temperature to drop. Then we will have a mass flood of refugees and then have a famine due to no food production in the west. Stock up now boys... It seems than in any SHTF situation your going to need food and water because of certain circumstances... I hope this thing doesn't blow.

j0hn

I agree completely.  Most of the tax return is going into preps.  long term food, water and ammo storage.  Certain hygiene products, hand crank radio, thermal blankets, etc. are also on the list.  Already have some things put aside, but I just have a nagging feeling that if there's ever been a time to buy it cheap and stack it deep, it's now.

Here's to hopin' it doesn't blow... smoke if you got em, boys.

no animation, but look about 10 posts up from your post.  drag_racerart posted the previous damage paths.  if it went that big, a lot would depend on the jet stream, but eventually the world would suffer b/c of the amount of ash pumped into the atmosphere.  they've estimated that parts of the midwest were covered in 3'-4' of ash after the eruptions.

a few more earth quakes already.

Keeping a list as long as we are all watching

1.5  2008/12/31 08:05:00 44.514N 110.360W  1.1   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.3  2008/12/31 08:02:11 44.523N 110.361W  4.9   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.0  2008/12/31 04:06:15 44.533N 110.368W  1.2   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.9  2008/12/31 04:05:12 44.532N 110.380W  0.3   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.9  2008/12/31 02:21:28 44.533N 110.380W  0.7   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.9  2008/12/31 02:18:31 44.523N 110.367W  1.9   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.4  2008/12/31 02:16:01 44.525N 110.373W  2.2   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.3  2008/12/31 02:13:59 44.514N 110.370W  1.6   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.6  2008/12/31 02:05:59 44.520N 110.368W  0.5   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.6  2008/12/31 02:02:28 44.525N 110.362W  4.3   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.2  2008/12/31 02:00:19 44.518N 110.366W  1.9   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.5  2008/12/31 01:59:21 44.522N 110.362W  0.5   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.0  2008/12/31 01:58:11 44.527N 110.369W  1.3   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.1  2008/12/31 00:27:46 44.535N 110.355W  0.4   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.8  2008/12/31 00:22:00 44.531N 110.376W  1.2   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.8  2008/12/30 22:06:40 44.529N 110.382W  1.6   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.8  2008/12/30 12:06:13 44.535N 110.352W  0.2   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.3  2008/12/30 12:05:33 44.731N 111.165W  7.3    9 km ( 6 mi) NNW of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.8  2008/12/30 12:05:13 44.540N 110.350W  0.1   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
2.8  2008/12/30 04:59:07 44.533N 110.374W  0.9   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.5  2008/12/30 02:17:43 44.525N 110.379W  0.0   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.4  2008/12/30 02:10:20 44.527N 110.380W  0.6   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.8  2008/12/30 02:05:33 44.498N 110.389W  2.4   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.9  2008/12/29 23:05:34 44.477N 110.374W  2.9   62 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.0  2008/12/29 21:02:27 44.503N 110.390W  2.4   59 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.3  2008/12/29 20:45:59 44.517N 110.381W  2.2   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.1  2008/12/29 20:16:31 44.524N 110.406W  1.6   57 km (36 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.5  2008/12/29 20:11:35 44.552N 110.359W  2.1   60 km (38 mi) E   of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.0  2008/12/29 20:08:25 44.499N 110.379W  2.2   60 km (37 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.2  2008/12/29 20:02:08 44.595N 110.318W 13.0   56 km (35 mi) SSW of  Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.1  2008/12/29 19:50:02 44.787N 110.996W  7.2   16 km (10 mi) NNE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.9  2008/12/29 19:47:07 44.788N 110.994W  7.4   17 km (10 mi) NNE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.2  2008/12/29 19:44:42 44.788N 110.995W  7.2   17 km (10 mi) NNE of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.5  2008/12/29 19:38:20 44.798N 110.988W  4.0   18 km (11 mi) NNE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.2  2008/12/29 19:29:17 44.712N 111.147W  2.5    7 km ( 4 mi) NNW of  West Yellowstone, MT
0.9  2008/12/29 19:26:29 44.767N 110.959W  1.8   16 km (10 mi) NE  of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.6  2008/12/29 19:25:29 44.787N 111.001W  7.5   16 km (10 mi) NNE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.3  2008/12/29 19:13:36 44.516N 110.360W  2.5   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
1.0  2008/12/29 19:00:37 44.553N 110.341W  2.2   61 km (38 mi) SSW of  Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
3.3  2008/12/29 12:14:49 44.521N 110.369W  1.8   60 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.1  2008/12/28 12:55:17 44.511N 110.353W  0.7   62 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.0  2008/12/28 12:32:15 44.511N 110.356W  2.7   62 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.2  2008/12/28 02:23:57 44.511N 110.361W  0.4   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.9  2008/12/27 22:15:56 44.502N 110.366W  0.3   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.3  2008/12/27 15:30:03 44.498N 110.358W  4.3   62 km (39 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.2  2008/12/27 13:26:27 44.505N 110.364W  2.4   61 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.5  2008/12/27 13:17:33 44.488N 110.357W  4.1   62 km (39 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT
3.0  2008/12/27 11:23:07 44.495N 110.364W  2.8   62 km (38 mi) ESE of  West Yellowstone, MT

I understand that but BillofRights specifically made a referance to seismic and GPS records going back a couple of thousand years. Clearly we all know that technology was not in existance that far back so I was looking for clarification on his statement. Such as a scientific way of taking current data and interpolating the numbers based on the geological record. Either he is talking about something I never heard of or his statement just came off weird.

Quoting function still not functioning properly

Ya know... you can believe this or not, but it's true.

I have to wonder what they mean in that illustration when they say that the St. Helens "ash zone" was 30km (20 miles). I'm guessing they mean "significant ash zone"... because I remember very clearly coming out of the house one day during that whole mess and finding a thin coating of black dust all over everything. Couldn't miss it being all over the car, etc. - But I was living in southeastern Tennesee at the time. No shit.

It certainly wasn't enough to cause any problems or anything. Just a layer a little thicker than a winter frost from dew in the morning.  Obviously though, since a visible amount was carried all that way from St. Helens (what is that? Like 2500 miles or more?), if there were to be a really huge event like a "super volcano", everyone might as well just put their heads between their legs and kiss their asses goodbye, because I don't know how farmers could grow anything with anywhere from several inches to several feet of ash on top of the land. - Then again, maybe the effected areas would only be limited at the longer distances. I mean, I don't remember if other parts of the country all had dust like we did after St. Helens or not. I just remember that we had it in our area (around Chattanooga, TN). It's all definitely something to think about though. Wind patterns, that is.

On a lighter note though, I just hope that on the day this finally happens the prevailing winds shift to the west/southwest so it'll take out the PRK instead of the _good_ part of the USA.

It's working for me, but the post you are trying to quote is seriously messed up. See an earlier reply of mine where I went through it and fixed all of the quotes.

Drudge is reporting 12/31/08 - "Earthquake swarm continues beneath Yellowstone..."

12 more today - 3 over 3.0 with the one being a 3.6

Yup, real busy today, 26 so far since midnight local, from M0.3 to M3.6, depths from 0.1 to 6.7 km and everywhere between.

You may notice more get added well after the fact. I think they re-examine the traces and isolate quakes that were ambiguous at first.

Looks to me like the entire section of the collapsed caldera floor under that part of Yellowstone Lake is in frequent motion. Structurally, it's probably a bed of big rock chips anyway, after collapsing when the magma supporting it erupted last go round and left a hanging ceiling before the collapse made a place for water to collect. We could just be seeing a randomly settling pile of gravel chips, resulting from structurally critical shift back on the 22nd, but the recent record uplift in that area makes some sort of magma surge more likely.

Not much to do but keep watching....

The link on the first page lists all the recent seismic activity.  Got a friend of mine to look at, he also thinks it's a wise idea to keep half an eye on.  That thing goes full kaboom and it's game over.

If magma finds its way into that lake, or even into ground water close below that lake, an event that grabs global headlines is about the least I'd expect to result.

Not many here are old enough to remember steam boiler explosions, or the lengths people went to to avoid them. I'm not either, but an interest in steam locomotives has made me aware of even more stringent regulation for steam boilers now.

Steam has tremendous destructive ability if not harnessed properly. The potential is there, extemely remote at this point, in my opinion, but there all the same, for even a minor hydro-magmatic event to rip the whole caldera open, even with a small amount of magma-water interaction that would classify as a minor leak elsewhere besides under the lake.

Yea, I probably screwed it up to start with.

Here is another lake on top of a volcano from the not too distant past:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/mhalb/nyos/nyos.htm

It slowed down a little yesterday but picked up full steam this morning.

Sweet baby Jesus, we got a live one here...

That is way more activity than is making the official lists.

I don't think anyone's trying to hide anything, it just looks like there's too much data to transcribe, analyze, list and display.

Look at today, about 07:02:50. I think it bounced the needle clean off the page.

I'd automatically assume the machine is malfunctioning, but you can see the same general trends in activity at any of the other Yellowstone USGS stations.

I really have to wonder what that Lake looks like right now, and what the geologists monitoring these machine are currently thinking.

Here's the most recent trace:

Seismograph just north of Yellowstone Lake, Most Recent

Scroll down, look at other days and other stations and see what you think for yourself.

Here is an interesting little tidbit:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/glossary.php?term=harmonic%20tremor



Could the above graph be interpreted as harmonic tremors?

Has anyone found any gas results taken from the area?  I've been looking for the info but can not find anything.

We all know Yellowstone is a very active hot spot. The question is if these swarms are precursory to an eruption if not a MAJOR eruption. I have done a lot of research on this lately and even read articles written back in 2006. The 2006 article said it did not think an eruption was eminet due to current data findings. He went on to say that earthquakes and so called "swarms" of earthquakes are something that may give us a heads up of an upcoming eruption. It will explode again the article concluded. The answer was when. Once again I really hope this is nothing major.

j0hn

Is there any place to get up to date readings on ground temperature and temperature of Yellowstone Lake?  

Mike

Fuck it! I wish it would hurry up and blow, I need a long winters nap.

Man.

Gotta admit, this is a HELL of a way to end 2008 and ring in 2009...  lol..

I'm just trying to keep myself centered.  This really could be just.. well, nothing, really.  Who knows.  I don't like condition white, so regardless of it possibly being nothing, I'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

thats a good ? Id also like to know about the PH level in the lake? Any changes to the geysers? What about the behavior of the local wildlife?

Do they have any new current satelite images if the magma chamber?

Can't remember where I saw it, but a couple of years ago I saw where they had some road closures due to earthquake damage.  

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. (Matt 24:7)


Are we talking lakes here?

IIRC, "divers" could also be the archaic spelling of "diverse" as in, many places.  Earthquakes in many places.

Still holds, though.  After all... China, Japan, Indonesia, etc. etc...

Could be wrong.  Just my $.02.

Its gonna blow @ 00:00 1/1/2009

Dude if it does, I owe you a coke.  

I was worried about 2012 . Why hasn't there been more about this in the news? I haven't seen anything about this on the TV. This seems to be serious stuff as well.

j0hn

True, but the King James version says "divers" and not "diverse"

That's just it.  It IS serious stuff.  All the fluff on TV lately?  Please... the LAST thing anyone wants is to get smacked in the face with the cold hard reality of mortality.  Most people are just too comfortable in their little "gimmie gimmie" worlds to face the fact that we can all be screwed.  Not to mention, with all the conflict in the world now, a socialist as POTUS, most nations hating us, people would see the possibility of a super-volcano erupting as a sign of the end of days or something else (insert apocalyptic belief here).

Personally, I can't get enough of this.  I want to be prepared.  Fuck the illusory world, this is real.  I want to know it's moves.. I like to play Chess, I want to see where it wants to go so I can know to NOT be there.