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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:09:33 PM EDT
Anyone have suggested plans if it spreads? A few more states and I go to BOL.
Edit: News link for the skeptical. |
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Rubber gloves, n95 masks, bleach, disinfectant spray, hand sanitizer. Don't go crazy, but it's good to have these to use.
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Rubber gloves, n95 masks, bleach, disinfectant spray, hand sanitizer. Don't go crazy, but it's good to have these to use. View Quote Read the "Is this a Pandemic ..." thread. N95 will not do it... Also, need goggles and at least Tyvek suites. Need all of that if it becomes Pandemic. |
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Read the "Is this a Pandemic ..." thread. N95 will not do it... Also, need goggles and at least Tyvek suites. Need all of that if it becomes Pandemic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rubber gloves, n95 masks, bleach, disinfectant spray, hand sanitizer. Don't go crazy, but it's good to have these to use. Read the "Is this a Pandemic ..." thread. N95 will not do it... Also, need goggles and at least Tyvek suites. Need all of that if it becomes Pandemic. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_17/664806_Is_This_a_Pandemic_Being_Born_.html&page=18 |
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days.
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Oh BOY....
Just the event the CDC [et al .gov 'institutions'] needs to TRIPLE the size of their operation and buy more guns and ammo. Yay! 3000 have died so far in Africa, world population is 4 Billion, give or take a few Billions... Wake me when my neighbors start dropping like fly's with blood coming out their ears... |
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. View Quote Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. |
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Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. +1. Might turn out to be nothing just like .gov is saying... "Nothing to see here move along people." |
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+1. Might turn out to be nothing just like .gov is saying... "Nothing to see here move along people." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. +1. Might turn out to be nothing just like .gov is saying... "Nothing to see here move along people." BUT--- You can bet they will use this 'crisis', real or otherwise, to expand their power and control over us, with the Survival Sheeple [and regular Sheeple as well] bleating and cheering them on... DO IT DO IT... Along with spending -INEFFICIENTLY- zillions of $$$ that DOESN'T EXIST! |
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BUT--- You can bet they will use this 'crisis', real or otherwise, to expand their power and control over us, with the Survival Sheeple [and regular Sheeple as well] bleating and cheering them on... DO IT DO IT... Along with spending -INEFFICIENTLY- zillions of $$$ that DOESN'T EXIST! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. +1. Might turn out to be nothing just like .gov is saying... "Nothing to see here move along people." BUT--- You can bet they will use this 'crisis', real or otherwise, to expand their power and control over us, with the Survival Sheeple [and regular Sheeple as well] bleating and cheering them on... DO IT DO IT... Along with spending -INEFFICIENTLY- zillions of $$$ that DOESN'T EXIST! This is a good opportunity to observe, learn how the public reacts to events like this. Valuable info to know. |
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This is a good opportunity to observe, learn how the public reacts to events like this. Valuable info to know. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. +1. Might turn out to be nothing just like .gov is saying... "Nothing to see here move along people." BUT--- You can bet they will use this 'crisis', real or otherwise, to expand their power and control over us, with the Survival Sheeple [and regular Sheeple as well] bleating and cheering them on... DO IT DO IT... Along with spending -INEFFICIENTLY- zillions of $$$ that DOESN'T EXIST! This is a good opportunity to observe, learn how the public reacts to events like this. Valuable info to know. Agreed. The bleating might be historic! The beating of hoofs to the box stores, epic! The opportunity for DEALS, once the Sheeple are distracted by the next 'issue', golden! The justification for Emergency Powers, well, uh, pretty damn sad... At least we might have O for 3 moar years! The packing of Survival Forums with NeewBees, entertaining! |
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Im not holding my breath in regards to this, Ive been prepping for years, when the mad cow, swine flu and avian flu came into the spotlight I went full retard prepping to defend against it, only to end up seeing it be nothing that it was blown up to be. Now with this Ebola, I fully understand that this type of sickness is nothing to scoff at, its the real deal, but Im not convinced yet that its a danger to the public at large just yet. But I will be watching and listening to the coconut wire on developments.
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Slip of the tongue ' We all share the same air' CDC spokesman ( possible future transmission of ebola via air? )
'We have this under control and it will not spread' CDC spokesman Im not sure which is scarier , that they may have leaked a scenario ( ie air borne ) or that the government is in control! |
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Im not holding my breath in regards to this, Ive been prepping for years, when the mad cow, swine flu and avian flu came into the spotlight I went full retard prepping to defend against it, only to end up seeing it be nothing that it was blown up to be. Now with this Ebola, I fully understand that this type of sickness is nothing to scoff at, its the real deal, but Im not convinced yet that its a danger to the public at large just yet. But I will be watching and listening to the coconut wire on developments. View Quote So were the others, just not enough to affect us significantly. |
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Im not holding my breath in regards to this, Ive been prepping for years, when the mad cow, swine flu and avian flu came into the spotlight I went full retard prepping to defend against it, only to end up seeing it be nothing that it was blown up to be. Now with this Ebola, I fully understand that this type of sickness is nothing to scoff at, its the real deal, but Im not convinced yet that its a danger to the public at large just yet. But I will be watching and listening to the coconut wire on developments. View Quote That's the thing that makes me nervous. "They" are doing the exact opposite with Ebola. Every major news article or CDC report includes "Nothing to be worried about." "We can control it." "It will not spread in the US." Again, I hope they are right, and while I am not doing anything specific to prep for this I am keeping my eyes and ears open and watching the news. I already have a stash of gloves, tyvek suites, surgical masks though I am afraid they wouldn't be a whole lot of use if this thing were to go full blown pandemic. Staying as far away from population centers would be key IMO. |
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'We have this under control and it will not spread' CDC spokesman https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaXtoKywToksd1pRXkukcQQ_N0edpW0o_mvGHIpYz7WEmpDN8- View Quote This guy is better.... lol...I love this one: "I triple guarantee you, there are no American soldiers in Baghdad." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0 |
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Is the consensus that the n95 mask would be sufficient against Ebola or not?
Also, if I were to use an n95 mask, if that is the go to mask style, how long can I use it before I should toss it and use a fresh one? |
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Is the consensus that the n95 mask would be sufficient against Ebola or not? Also, if I were to use an n95 mask, if that is the go to mask style, how long can I use it before I should toss it and use a fresh one? View Quote You need a N100-certified mask, and preferably a full-face respirator. N100 will prevent 99.97% of particulates or drops that are 3 microns or less in size. Ebola virus is .08 micron to .1 micron in size, however, in order for it to be airborne, it needs to be carried by droplets, these droplets are the ones that are larger than 3 microns in size therefore a 3 micron mask rated at N or P 100 should effectively block these pathogens. Goggles, nitrile gloves, Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock, to make bleach) and Tvvek suits will be worth their weight in gold during a outbreak; a $100 will go a long way in buying these items. |
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Read the "Is this a Pandemic ..." thread. N95 will not do it... Also, need goggles and at least Tyvek suites. Need all of that if it becomes Pandemic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Rubber gloves, n95 masks, bleach, disinfectant spray, hand sanitizer. Don't go crazy, but it's good to have these to use. Read the "Is this a Pandemic ..." thread. N95 will not do it... Also, need goggles and at least Tyvek suites. Need all of that if it becomes Pandemic. No. A woman took care of 5 people with ebola using nothing but trash bags and survived. You dont need to spend a ton of money to protect yourself. The CDC and others now teach the method that woman used. |
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You need a N100-certified mask, and preferably a full-face respirator. N100 will prevent 99.97% of particulates or drops that are 3 microns or less in size. Ebola virus is .08 micron to .1 micron in size, however, in order for it to be airborne, it needs to be carried by droplets, these droplets are the ones that are larger than 3 microns in size therefore a 3 micron mask rated at N or P 100 should effectively block these pathogens. Goggles, nitrile gloves, Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock, to make bleach) and Tvvek suits will be worth their weight in gold during a outbreak; a $100 will go a long way in buying these items. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the consensus that the n95 mask would be sufficient against Ebola or not? Also, if I were to use an n95 mask, if that is the go to mask style, how long can I use it before I should toss it and use a fresh one? You need a N100-certified mask, and preferably a full-face respirator. N100 will prevent 99.97% of particulates or drops that are 3 microns or less in size. Ebola virus is .08 micron to .1 micron in size, however, in order for it to be airborne, it needs to be carried by droplets, these droplets are the ones that are larger than 3 microns in size therefore a 3 micron mask rated at N or P 100 should effectively block these pathogens. Goggles, nitrile gloves, Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock, to make bleach) and Tvvek suits will be worth their weight in gold during a outbreak; a $100 will go a long way in buying these items. Per cdc...it is not transmissible airborne, so a mask will likely not help at all. |
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Quoted: The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. View Quote I asked this in another thread, but no one answered. So, I'll ask again here- Why bottled water? Is Ebola going to render tap water useless? |
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An executive order signed by President Obama at the end of July also allows for the “apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.”
As we reported earlier today, the CDC has also instructed funeral homes to prepare for Ebola victims, telling workers not to embalm corpses or carry out autopsies. From the drudge report. Ballon going up yet . Probably not but time to review preps for sure. |
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Per cdc...it is not transmissible airborne, so a mask will likely not help at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the consensus that the n95 mask would be sufficient against Ebola or not? Also, if I were to use an n95 mask, if that is the go to mask style, how long can I use it before I should toss it and use a fresh one? You need a N100-certified mask, and preferably a full-face respirator. N100 will prevent 99.97% of particulates or drops that are 3 microns or less in size. Ebola virus is .08 micron to .1 micron in size, however, in order for it to be airborne, it needs to be carried by droplets, these droplets are the ones that are larger than 3 microns in size therefore a 3 micron mask rated at N or P 100 should effectively block these pathogens. Goggles, nitrile gloves, Calcium Hypochlorite (pool shock, to make bleach) and Tvvek suits will be worth their weight in gold during a outbreak; a $100 will go a long way in buying these items. Per cdc...it is not transmissible airborne, so a mask will likely not help at all. It will help, during sneezing and projectile vomiting..... |
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Quoted: Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. I don't know what FUD mean, but I still feel confident in poo-poo'ing this threat. If 3000 people in this country have died, I MIGHT be concerned. So far, it hasn't spread (AFAIK) between two people in the US. |
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Is the consensus that the n95 mask would be sufficient against Ebola or not? Also, if I were to use an n95 mask, if that is the go to mask style, how long can I use it before I should toss it and use a fresh one? View Quote You know, have you ever taken a strong light, like an LED hi-power flashlight, and placed the beam perpendicular to the path of spittle that sprays out of most folk's mouths when they talk? If not try it. You might be surprised. My issue would not be so much having a mask, [that can't hurt in any case] but the protection of your eyes and reducing the spittle that get's into them most anytime you have a conversation with someone. My guess is mucus/saliva may have some natural anti-bacterial-viral properties. OTOH, eyes might be a direct path for the virus to enter your body. Maybe that's why there are reports of folks' bleeding from their eyes from an Ebola infection. It's terrible, and IMO, for most folks, although wearing a mask might help folks make bad decisions from over-confidence, and some times, a mask might only be of marginal benefit. Look at the folks in Japan wearing silly masks that likely do very little, but they feel good fooling themselves they are doing -SOMETHING. Personally, I'd want to be doing something -EFFECTIVE. I ONLY WISH I KNEW WHAT THAT WAS. |
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I don't know what FUD mean, but I still feel confident in poo-poo'ing this threat. If 3000 people in this country have died, I MIGHT be concerned. So far, it hasn't spread (AFAIK) between two people in the US. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. I don't know what FUD mean, but I still feel confident in poo-poo'ing this threat. If 3000 people in this country have died, I MIGHT be concerned. So far, it hasn't spread (AFAIK) between two people in the US. Yeah, and it's been here for 9 days already. |
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If this rockets to 15 cases or something I'll be concerned. Im not yet convinced it's going to be a full blown pandemic here. I suspect we will see more cases though... If this stuff got loose in a ghetto it's going to get nasty.
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Why with all the masks, tyvek suits, etc? Are you planning on going out in public about your normal business in full hazmat gear grocery shopping?
If this goes full pandemic, keep your a$$ home with your family, stay alive. Avoid all human contact from the outside world. Time to check your preps. Fill the holes in them NOW. Why wait until you need to bleach yourself off when you get home from a french toast supply run? Food NOW. Water supplies NOW. This may turn out to be nothing, but the way people in this country travel and socialize, shit like this can spread QUICK given the right conditions. |
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Quoted: Why with all the masks, tyvek suits, etc? Are you planning on going out in public about your normal business in full hazmat gear grocery shopping? View Quote If this goes full pandemic, keep your a$$ home with your family, stay alive. Avoid all human contact from the outside world. Time to check your preps. Fill the holes in them NOW. Why wait until you need to bleach yourself off when you get home from a french toast supply run? Food NOW. Water supplies NOW. This may turn out to be nothing, but the way people in this country travel and socialize, shit like this can spread QUICK given the right conditions. I think the masks and stuff might be in case something unexpected happens or something goes wrong with the plan. You know...so you're prepared. |
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No, it doesn't seem to spread easily. Americans are not given to wash their dead - we have people for that, who understand how to take the proper precautions. When folks get sick, they go to the hospital emergency room, not a folk healer. There is very little chance that Ebola will spread in the US, despite the hype and fear.
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Quoted: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why with all the masks, tyvek suits, etc? Are you planning on going out in public about your normal business in full hazmat gear grocery shopping? If this goes full pandemic, keep your a$$ home with your family, stay alive. Avoid all human contact from the outside world. Time to check your preps. Fill the holes in them NOW. Why wait until you need to bleach yourself off when you get home from a french toast supply run? Food NOW. Water supplies NOW. This may turn out to be nothing, but the way people in this country travel and socialize, shit like this can spread QUICK given the right conditions. I think the masks and stuff might be in case something unexpected happens or something goes wrong with the plan. You know...so you're prepared. |
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Quoted: If this goes full pandemic, keep your a$$ home with your family, stay alive. Avoid all human contact from the outside world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why with all the masks, tyvek suits, etc? Are you planning on going out in public about your normal business in full hazmat gear grocery shopping? If this goes full pandemic, keep your a$$ home with your family, stay alive. Avoid all human contact from the outside world. Time to check your preps. Fill the holes in them NOW. Why wait until you need to bleach yourself off when you get home from a french toast supply run? Food NOW. Water supplies NOW. This may turn out to be nothing, but the way people in this country travel and socialize, shit like this can spread QUICK given the right conditions. I think the masks and stuff might be in case something unexpected happens or something goes wrong with the plan. You know...so you're prepared. I do see them. I've seen them in several of the useful resources I've posted in the other threads. N95s might not help...although they probably would. P100s might help. In conjunction with ventless goggles, a hood, a Tychem suit, nitrile gloves, and fully water proof, chemical resistant outer suit, gloves, and boots. A M98 with CBRN cartridge might help too. Cases of calcium hypochlorite might help. Lysol might help. There's lots of things that might help and since most people in the survival forum don't plan on treating ebola patients those things that might help are probably for in case something goes wrong. |
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Ounce of prevention, avoid getting it. if you get it, get to hospital.
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How much does a Level C suit and breathing apparatus cost?
EDIT: Seems to be a level B suit on amazon for 175 shipped. probably doesn't include a breathing apparatus though... |
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I asked this in another thread, but no one answered. So, I'll ask again here- Why bottled water? Is Ebola going to render tap water useless? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. I asked this in another thread, but no one answered. So, I'll ask again here- Why bottled water? Is Ebola going to render tap water useless? I just used that as an example; something people do when they're preparing to hunker down and close themselves off. You're right, though. Public water supplies probably wouldn't be affected... but then again, people are pretty uninformed in general, and some will probably be afraid the water might be contaminated too. My real point, though, was that regardless of whether or not Ebola turns out to be a genuine threat to the U.S. (personally, I'm still in the "not" camp for now), watching and learning from how the public reacts to it could be a useful exercise for those who take being prepared seriously. ETA... One interesting observation right off the bat: .gov and health officials seem to be doing a pretty fair job of putting out honest info about the risk (minimal) and control efforts. Yet, everybody knows that of course the government is going to blast everyone with reassuring propaganda for any real catastrophic event... hell, it's in all the books . I think it kind of cancels itself out; unfortunately our government has proven itself to be untrustworthy often enough that the first reaction to what in this case seems to be honest, factual info is that it's probably a crock of shit being cooked up to soothe the masses until the disease shows up at their door. |
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I don't know what FUD mean, but I still feel confident in poo-poo'ing this threat. If 3000 people in this country have died, I MIGHT be concerned. So far, it hasn't spread (AFAIK) between two people in the US. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The disease is one threat; public reaction is another. It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing grocery store shelves cleared of bottled water and shopping carts full of canned goods in the next few days. Your sigline says it all. Been listening to people poo-poo this threat since it began, and now here we are, over 3000 dead, WHO predicting 1.5 million cases or more, and ebola in Dallas, and yet some are STILL calling it FUD. go figure. I don't know what FUD mean, but I still feel confident in poo-poo'ing this threat. If 3000 people in this country have died, I MIGHT be concerned. So far, it hasn't spread (AFAIK) between two people in the US. FUD= Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt |
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Maybe number two........
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/ |
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U.S. State Department putting out a bid for 160,000 suits
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NY11147.htm |
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U.S. State Department putting out a bid for 160,000 suits http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NY11147.htm View Quote Oh Boy... In 5 years we can pick them up surplus for $2! |
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Quoted: Oh Boy... In 5 years we can pick them up surplus for $2! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: U.S. State Department putting out a bid for 160,000 suits http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NY11147.htm Oh Boy... In 5 years we can pick them up surplus for $2! No, they will give them to PDs and school districts...we will not get a crack at them. |
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Couple of questions:
1) Are there any N100 masks that fit kids? I would like to lay in a few, though frankly likelihood of actually using it is low. If Ebola got established here, it would probably only take one or two infected kids to expose an entire school, by which time we are already probably infected as well. And we know how fast illness spreads at schools. But better to have and not need, than to need and not have, I figure. And anyone know a good source that doesn't cost $6+/N100 mask? Talking Moldex N100 2730s most likely. 2) Are there any goggles that might be of help that are useful for people wearing glasses? 3) Also, as the wife is a Pharmacist, and therefore more likely to be exposed to someone infected, any suggestions as to what she can do besides wearing a mask and using alcohol on the counters/prescriptions handed to her? Not bloody likely her employer will go along with a full respirator, hood, gloves, you name it, after all. |
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