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Quoted: If you want to pay the rediculous price these will be commanding just to turn around and dump more money into it, getting it to the way it should have been when it left the factory, then have at it. And the fact that the stocks are even easier to swap out than on an AR doesn't intrest you at all? It takes all of maybe 30 seconds to completely switch stocks, with no buffer tube or anything else to get in the way. BTW, easier to change stocks than an AR? I pull a pin and slid the stock off... maybe takes 5 seconds if I forget what I'm doing for a couple of seconds. Yeah, I won't have a folding stock, but then again, neither will you and your ACR. |
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible.
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible. Black ones were in attendance as well http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/3942924332_f2581ee287_o.jpg +1 on the black. |
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible. Apparently that is the new mil spec FDE- or whatever it is called in govspeak. |
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Even if Remington / Bushmaster do release the rifle. It'll be back ordered for years!
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible. Apparently that is the new mil spec FDE- or whatever it is called in govspeak. The FDE of the original Masada was the first tan colored rifle that didn't look retarded. The new milspec copper color looks like crap. |
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Even if Remington / Bushmaster do release the rifle. It'll be back ordered for years! hopefully not with all the people saying they no longer have any interest in it. |
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible. Apparently that is the new mil spec FDE- or whatever it is called in govspeak. The FDE of the original Masada was the first tan colored rifle that didn't look retarded. The new milspec copper color looks like crap. Have to agree with you there. I'll probably stick with black if I'm ever in the market anyway, but the original color looked great. |
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I just wanna see it in black! that baby sh!t color is horrible. Black ones were in attendance as well http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/3942924332_f2581ee287_o.jpg Is it just me or is there no front sight? Either way, I'm saving up for a black one. I actually like the fixed stock configuration better than the folding stock. That's what I thought at first as well, but if you look closely you can see there is a front sight. I can't really see any detail, but I thought they were going to make the front sight a flip up similar to the KAC URX flip up sight. Seeing this pics is making me actually anxious to get one within a year!! And for the record, I'll take a black one (no homo) |
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ACR in black is sweeeeet! My only concern is thay I pray that if the ACR finally does come out that it wont turn into the FN SCAR bullsh!t, $5000-$7000! If the ACR is released in small numbers, were screwed! Last time I heard Drake said around $1500, hope it stays that way.
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The FDE of the original Masada was the first tan colored rifle that didn't look retarded. The new milspec copper color looks like crap. It's the difference between a spray on finish (original Masada) and hard anodizing (current ACR). I'll take the HA any day. |
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Quoted: ACR in black is sweeeeet! My only concern is thay I pray that if the ACR finally does come out that it wont turn into the FN SCAR bullsh!t, $5000-$7000! If the ACR is released in small numbers, were screwed! Last time I heard Drake said around $1500, hope it stays that way. Shit, if that's the case, I'm back on board..... I can deal with that price and the lack of a folding stock... If it crawls much above $2,000 though, I'm back out. |
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Well, I need a good 5.56 carbine. By the time I can save my money up this thing will be out. I'm still in for one.
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. Statement of the day! |
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. Oddly, I still have faith in this project, as well as the price point. I mean ~$1500, I might have to wait to get one, but at least I'll be able to. As for the $4000-7000 figures that are being pulled out about the SCAR, those prices last for what, 3-4 weeks? A fool and their money... The high price of the SCAR is also being pushed by FN, as well as the dealers needing to buy X amount of weapons that will sit there on the shelves not selling and taking space. With Bushmaster, I just don't see this problem. |
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. Seriously, Drake, no equivocating here. Stop the double speak. Get to the point. From exactly WHERE did he get that price quote? PS: Mrs Bananas and I were in the garage this weekend. I was changing a chainsaw chain and she was learning (gawd, I LOVE a woman who uses a chainsaw and shoots). She reached up on the shelf and pulled down my peanut butter jar full of $10s and $20s. It had Masada written along the side. I thought I was fooked. She said, "How much is in here?" "$1400, I replied." "That's how much the Masada is going to cost?" "Probably," I stated. "That's from that company that did the class up here in July?" "Mmm hmmm," I replied. "And that's made by those guys who are in Erie, on the way to my parent's house from DIA?" "Yup." "Are they going to let you pick it up while we're down there?" "Probably not, the Feds don't like non FFL holders such as me to do that," I explained. "Oh. And where's the other peanut butter jar?" "Huh," I replied. "For my Masada," she said. "You don't think I'm going to be happy with my AR when you have a Masada, do you?" I never wanted more to do the dirty deed with her on the garage floor more in my life . . . |
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. That's what I figured. I'm taking a guess like everyone else. Of course $2200.00 will be a bargain when they first hit the streets... |
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"For my Masada," she said. "You don't think I'm going to be happy with my AR when you have a Masada, do you?" I am starting to tear up. Get that girl a jar! |
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I guess there's no need to stir the rumor pot too much but, since this thread is full of fail and fluff, what the heck...
From what I've been told, Bushmaster may begin to take dealer pre-orders in a month or two to gauge the initial production run and the $2200 is close to the dealer cost price. __________________________________________________________________________________ Of course, this information is speculative and somewhat second hand in nature so, take it for what it's worth... |
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. Seriously, Drake, no equivocating here. Stop the double speak. Get to the point. From exactly WHERE did he get that price quote? PS: Mrs Bananas and I were in the garage this weekend. I was changing a chainsaw chain and she was learning (gawd, I LOVE a woman who uses a chainsaw and shoots). She reached up on the shelf and pulled down my peanut butter jar full of $10s and $20s. It had Masada written along the side. I thought I was fooked. She said, "How much is in here?" "$1400, I replied." "That's how much the Masada is going to cost?" "Probably," I stated. "That's from that company that did the class up here in July?" "Mmm hmmm," I replied. "And that's made by those guys who are in Erie, on the way to my parent's house from DIA?" "Yup." "Are they going to let you pick it up while we're down there?" "Probably not, the Feds don't like non FFL holders such as me to do that," I explained. "Oh. And where's the other peanut butter jar?" "Huh," I replied. "For my Masada," she said. "You don't think I'm going to be happy with my AR when you have a Masada, do you?" I never wanted more to do the dirty deed with her on the garage floor more in my life . . . so did you do the dirty? remember, no pics it didn't happen. |
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$2200.00 Who did you get that from? His ass. Seriously, Drake, no equivocating here. Stop the double speak. Get to the point. From exactly WHERE did he get that price quote? PS: Mrs Bananas and I were in the garage this weekend. I was changing a chainsaw chain and she was learning (gawd, I LOVE a woman who uses a chainsaw and shoots). She reached up on the shelf and pulled down my peanut butter jar full of $10s and $20s. It had Masada written along the side. I thought I was fooked. She said, "How much is in here?" "$1400, I replied." "That's how much the Masada is going to cost?" "Probably," I stated. "That's from that company that did the class up here in July?" "Mmm hmmm," I replied. "And that's made by those guys who are in Erie, on the way to my parent's house from DIA?" "Yup." "Are they going to let you pick it up while we're down there?" "Probably not, the Feds don't like non FFL holders such as me to do that," I explained. "Oh. And where's the other peanut butter jar?" "Huh," I replied. "For my Masada," she said. "You don't think I'm going to be happy with my AR when you have a Masada, do you?" I never wanted more to do the dirty deed with her on the garage floor more in my life . . . so did you do the dirty? remember, no pics it didn't happen. A gentleman would never reveal such things. Besides, after nearly 30 years, I'd hate to scuff her knees and get them oily on the garage floor . . . |
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I guess there's no need to stir the rumor pot too much but, since this thread is full of fail and fluff, what the heck... From what I've been told, Bushmaster may begin to take dealer pre-orders in a month or two to gauge the initial production run and the $2200 is close to the dealer cost price. __________________________________________________________________________________ Of course, this information is speculative and somewhat second hand in nature so, take it for what it's worth... I was told "I do not have pricing yet but it should be in the $1700.00 range or so" |
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part of what made this gun so pretty was the non- railed handguard. It looks sleek and futuristic. Now it looks, well...ugly. Any word on whether or not the civilian one will still come with the cool handguard?
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part of what made this gun so pretty was the non- railed handguard. It looks sleek and futuristic. Now it looks, well...ugly. Any word on whether or not the civilian one will still come with the cool handguard? In previous threads the polymer hand guards were still a go. I would think that on the standard ver. they would use the polymer handguards for the rifle to keep the price point down. Drake used them in AOTTC2 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=124&t=175795 |
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So what's up with the new barrel nut assembly? Will we still be able to change out the aluminum hand guards for the original plastic Magpul pimpness?
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This is what my dealer told me. $1,476,194.23 and comes with Lazer Attachments for Sharks, a Transvestite Hooker on Meth, three midgets in clown suit, and a partridge in a pear tree. He said the cost of production has gone up, the workers are revolting and chanting "begone with his head" in spanish. On a lighter note: The dealer said that he would waive the 0.23 cents if I get my gf to flash her bewbies. I think that's a fair deal. |
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So what's up with the new barrel nut assembly? Will we still be able to change out the aluminum hand guards for the original plastic Magpul pimpness? I can't tell for sure but that new piece around were the barrel nut may bolt over the hand guard, and uses the same hole as the hand guard pin, just a longer pin? Looks like it may have a QD cup and sling mount for 2 point slings.. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/jmarkma/DSC_0131.jpg eh, i don't really like the 2 tone. i like the origonal FDE they had...... or black... |
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So what's up with the new barrel nut assembly? Will we still be able to change out the aluminum hand guards for the original plastic Magpul pimpness? I can't tell for sure but that new piece around were the barrel nut may bolt over the hand guard, and uses the same hole as the hand guard pin, just a longer pin? Looks like it may have a QD cup and sling mount for 2 point slings.. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/jmarkma/DSC_0131.jpg eh, i don't really like the 2 tone. i like the origonal FDE they had...... or black... Remember guys, these are still pre-production models and colors and configuration can change at any time... |
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Is it just me or does the ACR just keep getting uglier with every mod? what's up with those handguards now? I agree. I don't usually care about a weapon's looks, but if that handguard is the final revision, I'm sticking with the XCR. I've been in love with the Masada since I first started following its development, and I'm going to be apoplectic if the bastards at Cerberus do to the ACR what SIG's new owners have done to the QC and respectability of their product line. |
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It was said somewhere that the rails and the polymer handguard are both options (in fact I think they said that the poly HG was already produced). the utility of having rails where you want without the weight where you don't seems like it follows with Magpul's typical way of doing things- the smart, efficient way.
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...If you can manage to reasonably keep the price under $2,000, I'm on board for sure. I know that supply and demand will take their toll on the price, if it's not outrageous from the factory, it won't turn guys like me away..... which is exactly what your competition did, turn me away because of the price. While I would really, really, really, really like the folding stock, it won't be the deal breaker on the gun if the price is right.... especially if we could look to magpul directly for aftermarket support on items like that. Well put! |
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you know, and they have probably already done it so I might be a little late, but they could just make the collapsible folding stock not fold and we would be fine. then you don't get into legal issues with the length of the rifle and you still have your collapsible stock. all they'd have to do is remove the hinge for civilian versions. I don't know when I'd ever be firing a rifle without the stock folded back anyways, so boom goes the dynamite....
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Quoted: With a 16" barrel, certainly it can't be shorter than an underfolding AK, can it? I don't want the folding stock because I would be shooting with it folded...that's useless. I want it for slung work and storage/transportation purposes. That's where folders shine and "fixed" stocks suck. I'm hardly inclined to give up one of the best features of the design. you know, and they have probably already done it so I might be a little late, but they could just make the collapsible folding stock not fold and we would be fine. then you don't get into legal issues with the length of the rifle and you still have your collapsible stock. all they'd have to do is remove the hinge for civilian versions. I don't know when I'd ever be firing a rifle without the stock folded back anyways, so boom goes the dynamite.... Ok, that and because people in washington don't want me to have it. |
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With a 16" barrel, certainly it can't be shorter than an underfolding AK, can it? I don't want the folding stock because I would be shooting with it folded...that's useless. I want it for slung work and storage/transportation purposes. That's where folders shine and "fixed" stocks suck. I'm hardly inclined to give up one of the best features of the design.
you know, and they have probably already done it so I might be a little late, but they could just make the collapsible folding stock not fold and we would be fine. then you don't get into legal issues with the length of the rifle and you still have your collapsible stock. all they'd have to do is remove the hinge for civilian versions. I don't know when I'd ever be firing a rifle without the stock folded back anyways, so boom goes the dynamite.... Ok, that and because people in washington don't want me to have it. Isn't OAL determined with the stock extended? |
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Oh my, hell yeah I'm definitely getting mine in Black. Hopefully I can purchase one for Christmas!
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