Freakinout don't listen to him!
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:56:05 AM EDT
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There's a bunch of weird-ass bills passed by the lege lately on this kind of freedom theme opposing town overreach, that could be shortsighted by the people using them. On the development side I have seen a number of developers using the recent 2023 law that allows them to basically opt-out of being in a town's ETJ (Extra-territorial jurisdiction, the area where a town expects to annex sometime soon). Then the news article is the wealthy neighborhoods wanting to form their own suburbs. There's a big fight right now in Georgia now for one of Atlanta's big suburbs I think. This all seems fine to have more control over your local government, and maybe lower taxes not being in a town at all, but then you are on a pretty small island of self-responsibility. The water, sewer and roads seem nice when the developer has just built them and bundled them into the cost of your house. But in 30-50 years they will need to be replaced with a very large bill. If you're in town there's a larger pool to pull from, at the cost of you paying for other people's stuff sometimes too. But in your independent neighborhood it's just you and the neighbors. That's where you see the horror stories of giant bills for road, water, sewer repairs. At least in a condo building when there are joint expenses there will rules for a special assessment to pay for the vital infrastructure. I don't know how it works in a neighborhood like that.
The real bitch-ass move is when a developer cheaps out on the private roads and utilities on a site, then the people petition to be annexed into a town. Then the town is on the hook for fixing and then maintaining the infrastructure, while the homeowners get the advantage of cheaper houses to start. But this is not related to the recent legislative activity View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Originally Posted By mPisi:Saturday's vote was spurred by a state House bill passed last year. The law requires the state's largest cities to allow some neighborhoods to vote on whether to leave the city limits. The areas must have been annexed between March 3, 2015, and Dec. 1, 2017. That’s when a handful of places were annexed just before a law was passed that could have stopped them. There's a bunch of weird-ass bills passed by the lege lately on this kind of freedom theme opposing town overreach, that could be shortsighted by the people using them. On the development side I have seen a number of developers using the recent 2023 law that allows them to basically opt-out of being in a town's ETJ (Extra-territorial jurisdiction, the area where a town expects to annex sometime soon). Then the news article is the wealthy neighborhoods wanting to form their own suburbs. There's a big fight right now in Georgia now for one of Atlanta's big suburbs I think. This all seems fine to have more control over your local government, and maybe lower taxes not being in a town at all, but then you are on a pretty small island of self-responsibility. The water, sewer and roads seem nice when the developer has just built them and bundled them into the cost of your house. But in 30-50 years they will need to be replaced with a very large bill. If you're in town there's a larger pool to pull from, at the cost of you paying for other people's stuff sometimes too. But in your independent neighborhood it's just you and the neighbors. That's where you see the horror stories of giant bills for road, water, sewer repairs. At least in a condo building when there are joint expenses there will rules for a special assessment to pay for the vital infrastructure. I don't know how it works in a neighborhood like that. The real bitch-ass move is when a developer cheaps out on the private roads and utilities on a site, then the people petition to be annexed into a town. Then the town is on the hook for fixing and then maintaining the infrastructure, while the homeowners get the advantage of cheaper houses to start. But this is not related to the recent legislative activity Bigger towns don't tend to have nicer roads than smaller towns, although just about everywhere I go has pretty bad roads, small, big, highways, interstates. Good thing we pay high taxes
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