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Posted: 2/14/2024 10:47:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/15/2024 1:50:41 PM EDT
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Thanks. I was wondering the status. So I guess these next two weeks we need to hit them hard.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 3:11:51 PM EDT
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Just reading those idiotic bills significantly raised my blood pressure.

Link Posted: 2/16/2024 4:09:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
Just reading those idiotic bills significantly raised my blood pressure.

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I can't see how any gun owner that isn't a liberal dumbass, could vote for the Dems or sit out our elections.
Battle lines have been drawn, the Dems have completely dropped the lie of we ain't coming for your guns.
I also can't see how the RPV can't see that they are getting their asses stomped, and adjust accordingly.
Link Posted: 2/16/2024 4:28:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:

I can't see how any gun owner that isn't a liberal literal dumbass, could vote for the Dems or sit out our elections.
Battle lines have been drawn, the Dems have completely dropped the lie of we ain't coming for your guns.
I also can't see how the RPV can't see that they are getting their asses stomped, and adjust accordingly.
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:
Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
Just reading those idiotic bills significantly raised my blood pressure.


I can't see how any gun owner that isn't a liberal literal dumbass, could vote for the Dems or sit out our elections.
Battle lines have been drawn, the Dems have completely dropped the lie of we ain't coming for your guns.
I also can't see how the RPV can't see that they are getting their asses stomped, and adjust accordingly.


FIFY

The RPV has been toothless and is unable to dispel the notion that the first thing it'll do is ban all abortions and automobile smog controls. And this is because of the "muh candidate ain't pure" thinking.

Our enemy thinks in increments - it is the hallmark of the socialist and communist. Many on our sides think in absolutes, all or nothing, and our results are ... nothing.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 2:15:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus:


FIFY

The RPV has been toothless and is unable to dispel the notion that the first thing it'll do is ban all abortions and automobile smog controls. And this is because of the "muh candidate ain't pure" thinking.

Our enemy thinks in increments - it is the hallmark of the socialist and communist. Many on our sides think in absolutes, all or nothing, and our results are ... nothing.
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Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 10:26:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:


Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.
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Ok, so where was RPV’s GOTV effort? 39% turnout, and a lot of close races, if they had any sort of serious effort to get people to the polls, we probably wouldn’t be having this discussion.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 10:43:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HokieErik:


Ok, so where was RPV's GOTV effort? 39% turnout, and a lot of close races, if they had any sort of serious effort to get people to the polls, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Originally Posted By HokieErik:
Originally Posted By dalle0001:


Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.


Ok, so where was RPV's GOTV effort? 39% turnout, and a lot of close races, if they had any sort of serious effort to get people to the polls, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

And where is the GOP's plan to not let seats run unopposed? Even if they are certain Democrat districts, force them fuckers to spend money there instead of a purple/light blue area of the state.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 12:05:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:


Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:
Originally Posted By homeyclaus:


FIFY

The RPV has been toothless and is unable to dispel the notion that the first thing it'll do is ban all abortions and automobile smog controls. And this is because of the "muh candidate ain't pure" thinking.

Our enemy thinks in increments - it is the hallmark of the socialist and communist. Many on our sides think in absolutes, all or nothing, and our results are ... nothing.


Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.


Voters aren't turning out because they either feel victory is assured, or because the candidate isn't pure enough.

The RPV is not doing what it needs to in terms of educating voters, and in terms of countering the crosstalk from the other party. The opposition thinks in increments, and R voters like their simple but wrong absolutisms. "Not gonna go vote if my district nominee isn't 100% against abortion." for example.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 12:18:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus:


Voters aren't turning out because they either feel victory is assured, or because the candidate isn't pure enough.

The RPV is not doing what it needs to in terms of educating voters, and in terms of countering the crosstalk from the other party. The opposition thinks in increments, and R voters like their simple but wrong absolutisms. "Not gonna go vote if my district nominee isn't 100% against abortion." for example.
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus:
Originally Posted By dalle0001:
Originally Posted By homeyclaus:


FIFY

The RPV has been toothless and is unable to dispel the notion that the first thing it'll do is ban all abortions and automobile smog controls. And this is because of the "muh candidate ain't pure" thinking.

Our enemy thinks in increments - it is the hallmark of the socialist and communist. Many on our sides think in absolutes, all or nothing, and our results are ... nothing.


Hardly a problem with the RPV, but rather the voters. Only 39% of voters turned out last election.


Voters aren't turning out because they either feel victory is assured, or because the candidate isn't pure enough.

The RPV is not doing what it needs to in terms of educating voters, and in terms of countering the crosstalk from the other party. The opposition thinks in increments, and R voters like their simple but wrong absolutisms. "Not gonna go vote if my district nominee isn't 100% against abortion." for example.

This, Muh candidate ain't pure is bull shit. You think the Dems fucking love Biden? No, he ain't Trump. That was good enough.
At least with a shitty GOP legislator, pressure could be applied. There are no longer any pro gun Democrats.
The GOP is also old as shit. Not sure how to bring in younger voters as they want socialism and more government.
Link Posted: 2/18/2024 6:42:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bad2006z71:

This, Muh candidate ain't pure is bull shit. You think the Dems fucking love Biden? No, he ain't Trump. That was good enough.
At least with a shitty GOP legislator, pressure could be applied. There are no longer any pro gun Democrats.
The GOP is also old as shit. Not sure how to bring in younger voters as they want socialism and more government.
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Talking about stuff they care about, and why what what we care about matters in their context. But old southern Democrats and old Republicans cans do it without tripping over their own bullshit, and can't take advice from people younger than 60.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 6:57:31 AM EDT
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Does anyone here know if the anti-2A bills
that passed the VA General Assembly have
been officially presented to Governor Youngkin?

My understanding is that Gov. Youngkin has seven
days to sign, veto, "take no action," or return the bills
to the legislature with objections or recommendations
for "severable amendments."

I don't see a time requirement for when the legislature
has to present bills after passage, other than doing so
before the end of their normal session.

Link Posted: 3/2/2024 9:32:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/2/2024 11:06:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HansohnBrothers:
VCDL does a great job of reporting on the bills and their status.

https://vcdl-lis.org/

Only one bill is on the Governor's desk to sign by March 8.

HB46/SB47 Firearm transfers to another person from a prohibited person.

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@HansohnBrothers

Thanks, I can see the Governor's Action Deadline dates now.




I was only noticing the post-"crossover" bill adoption dates
with my old man eyesight prior to looking again.



ETA - My latest understanding of the "Governor's Action Deadline"
          is that the 7 day deadline only applies to expedited bills,
          and that a 30 day deadline is given for the others.
          Can anyone here confirm this?

ETA 2 - Confirmed. 7 day deadline if bills are presented before
             the last week of the regular legislative session, otherwise
             30 days.
Link Posted: 3/14/2024 7:24:41 AM EDT
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From the VCDL email:

"HB2, bans “assault firearms” and magazines holding more than 10 rounds made after July 1, 2024."

Guns have serial numbers to show compliance with this unconstitutional bill, if signed.  I guess I really should look, but how would you prove your mags are old enough?  Register them with the state? (Ha-ha, just a weak joke.)
Link Posted: 3/14/2024 8:59:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ducbsa:
From the VCDL email:

"HB2, bans "assault firearms" and magazines holding more than 10 rounds made after July 1, 2024."

Guns have serial numbers to show compliance with this unconstitutional bill, if signed.  I guess I really should look, but how would you prove your mags are old enough?  Register them with the state? (Ha-ha, just a weak joke.)
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I don't know about pistol mags, but Pmags have a date code stamped in them.
Link Posted: 3/14/2024 9:07:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/14/2024 3:21:22 PM EDT
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Is Youngkin waiting for the last day to take action
on the rest of the anti-2A bills, like he did for the
expedited bills?


"Well... We're waiting!" meme here.

Link Posted: 3/14/2024 3:24:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ambridge77:
Is Youngkin waiting for the last day to take action
on the rest of the anti-2A bills, like he did for the
expedited bills?


"Well... We're waiting!" meme here.

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Probably waiting till the last minute to get all the polling data he can on which group he loses more future votes from depending on veto or not veto. Gun owners or suburban Karen's.
Link Posted: 3/14/2024 9:00:51 PM EDT
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I guess he has higher aspirations, like senator.
Link Posted: 3/14/2024 9:49:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ducbsa:
I guess he has higher aspirations, like senator.
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Of course. Every Va gov has. McDonald had a good chance at it until his troubles. Va is a lot different than the when he was Gov though.
Link Posted: 3/15/2024 3:23:54 PM EDT
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Youngkin vetoed 20 bills today.

I didn't see any anti-2A bills among those vetoes.

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