Traveling to Windstar with the family next weekend. I normally always have a P365 appendix carry going on. What do I need to know about OK laws and the casino specifically?

Leave your gun in the car when you go in the casino, lot of tribal trust properties will have no weapon stickers on the doors.

Its not that tribes dont own and use them its a fed reg about firearms on trust properties etc.

When i worked armed security in a casino for the chicks, even though i have a cleet armed security guard license, the security were umbrella under tribal law enforcement lighthorsemen to meet the fed reg for being armed on trust properties.

My tribe, absentee Shawnee, changed our constitution January 1st 1994 by making it a mandatory requirement that casino armed security guards would have a current cleet armed security guard license.

Many tribes since then followed suit and began requiring casino armed security to have a cleet license.

Its kind of funny since cleet is states law enforcement, security, pi, bond enforcement training/licensing etc. And cleet gives a fucknone about tribal trust properties and casinos cause they have no say in what happens on trust properties.

But tribes want the armed cleet licensed casino security because it gives a bit of credibility if anything happens.

Course local,state, county law enforcement has to be on duty to be armed on trust properties, fed le's are always on duty.

Edit to add:

Oklahoma is a constitutional carry state, we carry open except into restricted places likes schools, banks, post offices, fed offices, cop shops etc and the places with no weapon signs on the door.

Thank you very much for the detailed reply

Yeah and the McGurt ruling actually monkey wrenched it even further. Because it states that state law has no jurisdiction on tribal or reservation land. So now some tribes are having to look at federal cleet training.

But just remember casinos are considered bars and bars are a no go for concealed carry.

Yes, mcgirt v. oklahoma

That's a whole micky mouse barrel of monkeys

Yes, tribes unless cross commissioned with county or city le department, could only handle tribal, non tribal local or county was called and if they decided to show up most times they only told the non tribal to leave trust property

Now the cherokees got cross commissioned by the marshal service, so cherokee tribal law enforcement are called marshals, and they can tag anyone tribal or non tribal.

Funny thing is tribal crimes committed on trust property are all misdemeanors,

the real serious shit like murders etc are handled by the fbi, bia and maybe marshal service

Yeah and county and city le are scared to death of the lawsuits that can potentially arise. They aren’t even stopping blatant traffic violations with NA license plates. And the Game Warden’s are even on thinner ice. You also need to check individual tribal lands for CCW. Some Choctaw stores are legal carry and some are not. And these things change when a new chief or council is elected. I think the Tuscahoma get together is now off limits for CCW where the chief before was extremely pro carry. Yeah this how screwed up it is two of the Co deputies are carded and they are afraid to cross deputize. Maybe the Cherokee will vote a new chief in that has some common sense and get this crap straightened out. But I seriously doubt it…

Thanks for the responses. Heading back to Texas now. Had a great time and I have to say that Windstar is an excellent facility. My new question is what’s up with the weed places? Legal in Oklahoma or just the reservation?

It’s semi legal with a medical card and they hand them out liberally. It’s funny a lot of them places have already went broke.

Yes, even small towns and communities have multiple dispensaries in them,

I know some non tribal that pooled funds to start up a legitimate legal grow production facility, and afaik they are doing very well.

Several years back my tribe brought it to a vote to us for tribe business to get into the growing and dispensary business.

It was voted on and passed, but the tribe still hasn't done it yet.

Bumping so I don't start a new thread.

Also heading to a casino this weekend (from Texas). So basically bring it for the drive but lock it up in the trunk once I get to the casino? What about bringing it into my hotel room?

Any weird laws about transport if I get pulled over?

Look at the door postings or pamphlets in the casino hotels, most are on casino/tribal property and same firearm laws and rules apply.

Here you get pulled over keep your hands on the steering wheel, and when le comes up let them know you are armed and they acknowledge blablabla, most le's arent afraid to use their guns.

A while back Okcpd was known as the deadliest pd in the country, partly cause they shot a lot and iirc killed 11 people in like 6 months

If it’s private property you’re free to ignore the signs without penalty but if you are asked to leave you must leave. Failing to do so could get you in legal trouble as it should. Their property, their rules after all.

The SDA law book is pretty specific if you’re wanting exact info.

Retired le means nothing on trust property, they are just like everyone else, they leave their firearms in the car when they go in casinos to gamble, eat, see a show etc.

if le isn't on duty and in uniform, then like everyone else they leave their firearm in car when go onto trust property/casinos to gamble etc.

As for ccl holders, the ccl just became another unneeded piece of paper in your pocket when the state became constitutional carry

Yes, i've seen plenty of firearms/weapons in casinos in the years i worked gaming commission and as a security monkey.

When seen, Security will asked that it be taken to your vehicle, and/or off property, then you can come back in to gamble etc.

Which most people willingly do and come right back in to drink, gamble have fun, but

I have seen the person(s) cop an attitude when asked, security then ask person to leave property, if person did not leave,

then tribal pd came out, Seized firearm/weapons, arrested person for having a firearm on trust property and trespassing for refusal to leave when asked.

That usually amounted to couple grand to bond out of jail, attorney and tribal court fee's, Several grand fine and loss of the seized firearm.

The tribal police I’ve interacted with have always been pretty cool but I wasn’t being an idiot. Asking for problems anywhere on tribal property is pretty stupid especially when you’ve been given a friendly reminder by security already.

I think people forget how much authority tribal government has to order their own affairs.

Like any job, make le have to come out because of menial attitude shit and non simple cooperation then it means when they get there they're going to have micky mouse work that didn't have to happen,

And since it happens they will do the job and make it cost the person lots of funds,

Like my pop always told us. You want to make a man stop doing something, make him have to reach deep in his wallet.

I will say there are no metal detectors at the entrances.  

Not that metal detectors mean anything anyway,

That kid got busted midday yesterday with a pistol st school, the principal didn't know how they'd made it passed the metal detectors when they entered school doors that morning.