(17) The owner, business or commercial lessee, or manager of a private business
enterprise, day-care center as defined in KRS 199.894 or certified or licensed family
child-care home as defined in KRS 199.8982, or a health-care facility licensed
under KRS Chapter 216B, except facilities renting or leasing housing, may prohibit
persons holding concealed deadly weapon licenses from carrying concealed deadly
weapons on the premises and may prohibit employees, not authorized by the
employer, holding concealed deadly weapons licenses from carrying concealed
deadly weapons on the property of the employer. If the building or the premises are
open to the public, the employer or business enterprise shall post signs on or about
the premises if carrying concealed weapons is prohibited. Possession of weapons, or
ammunition, or both in a vehicle on the premises shall not be a criminal offense so
long as the weapons, or ammunition, or both are not removed from the vehicle or
brandished while the vehicle is on the premises. A private but not a public employer
may prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed deadly weapons
license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or ammunition, or both in vehicles
owned by the employer, but may not prohibit employees or other persons holding a
concealed deadly weapons license from carrying concealed deadly weapons, or
ammunition, or both in vehicles owned by the employee, except that the Justice and
Public Safety Cabinet may prohibit an employee from carrying any weapons, or
ammunition, or both other than the weapons, or ammunition, or both issued or
authorized to be used by the employee of the cabinet, in a vehicle while transporting
persons under the employee's supervision or jurisdiction. Carrying of a concealed
weapon, or ammunition, or both in a location specified in this subsection by a
license holder shall not be a criminal act but may subject the person to denial from
the premises or removal from the premises, and, if an employee of an employer,
disciplinary measures by the employer.

Originally Posted By CreativeBall:
Right. That's what I was figuring. Still, I hate to give my business to anti American commies.

Does anyone know of any decent doctors  in the area that aren't commie idiots?

Originally Posted By scottr:
Looking through the KRS I can't find where "concealed deadly weapon" is defined

If it's in a briefcase that you carry is it still a concealed deadly weapon or does it have to be on your person?

Originally Posted By scottr:
Looking through the KRS I can't find where "concealed deadly weapon" is defined

If it's in a briefcase that you carry is it still a concealed deadly weapon or does it have to be on your person?

Originally Posted By CreativeBall:
I was going to have a Drs appointment today for the first time in forever and I was greeted with this on their door:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/553184/IMG_20240207_151242425_jpg-3121709.JPG

Can they legitimately enforce their commie rules?

I called them and canceled my appointment, since the issue wasn't urgent any more, but I  would like to get an x-ray or other imaging to make sure I don't have something seriously wrong. I just hate financially supporting organizations that hate freedom.

Can anyone suggest any doctor's office in the Louisville area that doesn't have this kind of nonsense posted?

Edit:
I just noticed that KRS 237.100 doesn't even apply to that carrying.
Section 237.100 - Notification of purchase of firearm or attempt to purchase firearm - Immunity

Originally Posted By scottr:
Looks like they intended to cite KRS 237.110 section (17)

It's not a criminal act to carry there, but they can ask you to leave. If you don't they can trespass you

Of course, they are required to post signs, which they did. But the signs aren't correct so I guess you could argue that they aren't valid

ETA - 237.110 allows them to ban concealed deadly weapons only. Not sure what laws would apply to open carry

Originally Posted By CreativeBall:


Those are good questions.

And while I normally would rather just live my life, I feel that it's best to spend your time and money with organizations that share your values.

With this, it looks like the Norton group has completely struck out on every possible subject.

Originally Posted By scottr:
Put simply

By obtaining a license they agree to provide services to everyone and not discriminate. They can't discriminate against someone exercising a constitutional right any more than they can against someone of a different religion, creed, or color

Originally Posted By 7255:
Then we agree that a company providing a service can deny some, or all, services based upon things that may be constitutionally protected.

They're not saying you can never be armed. They're just saying not in their building. And if they catch you, they will ask you to leave.

Originally Posted By 7255:

If you're making that argument pursuant to 527.20 above, that argument is great until you leave the parked vehicle. That's why no employer or service provider, short of a federally controlled facility, can prohibit a weapon locked in your car.

But, that same establishment can have you trespassed for carrying against their wishes just as much as they can have you trespassed for protesting loudly in their store. It's also how a Jewish baker can refuse to make a Nazi cake, or Christian bakers refusing to celebrate a transition or gay wedding. SCotUS has repeatedly ruled in favor of private businesses.