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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2023 7:01:41 PM EDT
Son's buddy's wife tried to buy ammo for him during a trip into PA. Said she got denied to to NYS drivers license. Trying to find out what store.
Anyone else hear any reports on buying there? |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 7:09:34 PM EDT
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She got ID'ed buying ammo in PA?
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Posted: 11/13/2023 7:45:28 PM EDT
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I wonder if NY has been hitting the stores on the border threatening them not to sell ammo to NY ID's?
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2023 8:08:23 PM EDT
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There's no federal law against buying ammo out of state and NY can't enforce one.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 11:15:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldershrek: I wonder if NY has been hitting the stores on the border threatening them not to sell ammo to NY ID's? That is what I've been hearing. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2023 12:44:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldershrek: I wonder if NY has been hitting the stores on the border threatening them not to sell ammo to NY ID's? I wonder what NY would threaten them with? |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2023 1:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: I wonder what NY would threaten them with? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: Originally Posted By waldershrek: I wonder if NY has been hitting the stores on the border threatening them not to sell ammo to NY ID's? I wonder what NY would threaten them with? Anyone remember when Bloomberg had private investigators do straw purchases down south and then sued those stores (who finally capitulated to save lawyers fees)? |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 8:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: I wonder what NY would threaten them with? Tie them up with lawsuits costing them lawyer fees for years I imagine |
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Posted: 11/14/2023 10:30:55 PM EDT
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So they are just carding everyone trying to buy ammo? What are the PA residents saying?
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Posted: 11/14/2023 10:38:05 PM EDT
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I have not experienced this
YMMV |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2023 11:15:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: New York would do what they have done in the past with dealers down south. Sue them in Federal court on some BS. Basically bankrupt the stores with legal fees even if the case has no merit. Not like anyone in the Biden administration will stand with the PA stores. Anyone remember when Bloomberg had private investigators do straw purchases down south and then sued those stores (who finally capitulated to save lawyers fees)? So, New York would engage in a pattern of racketeering activity. Sounds like RICO charges would be in order. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:02:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lion: So they are just carding everyone trying to buy ammo? What are the PA residents saying? I checked on the PA home forum but did not ask if id's were required. BTW I purchased mz 209 primers at SW in Henrietta last week for $8.99/100, this week they're $18.99! All of their rifle and pistol primer prices went went up $20/brick. Guess that was a temporary price dip. Glad I made a few trips there and got stocked up some. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 1:59:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: So, New York would engage in a pattern of racketeering activity. Sounds like RICO charges would be in order. They have done it before going after legal businesses in other state's that would be in violation if they were in New York. Besides, who would press RICO charges? Biden's DOJ?  Bloomberg's foray into interstate law enforcement happened under the Obama Administration, who were happy to turn a blind eye.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: They have done it before going after legal businesses in other state's that would be in violation if they were in New York. Besides, who would press RICO charges? Biden's DOJ? Bloomberg's foray into interstate law enforcement happened under the Obama Administration, who were happy to turn a blind eye.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: Originally Posted By Zero6: So, New York would engage in a pattern of racketeering activity. Sounds like RICO charges would be in order. They have done it before going after legal businesses in other state's that would be in violation if they were in New York. Besides, who would press RICO charges? Biden's DOJ? Bloomberg's foray into interstate law enforcement happened under the Obama Administration, who were happy to turn a blind eye.NYSP walk into out of state gun stores and say, "Nice business you have here. It would be a shame if anything happened to it." Sounds like racketeering to me. |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 10:07:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fttam]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waldershrek: Tie them up with lawsuits costing them lawyer fees for years I imagine PA gun shop owner told a guy I know that he was afraid of being sued by NYS if he sold ammo to a NYer snd it was used in a shooting. So I’m told. I’d say drive another exit or two further from the NY/PA border. |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 10:14:51 PM EDT
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So which gun shop did this?
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 9:15:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: NYSP walk into out of state gun stores and say, "Nice business you have here. It would be a shame if anything happened to it." Sounds like racketeering to me. Funny thing is this past week a state agent showed up at my place of work checking for Workman's Comp compliance and wanted to see all related documents. Took a while for the owner to dig them out but we were fine (the fines for not being in compliance are steep and are free money for the state). So I was at board meeting for a charitable group I work with this week and who has several employees. We have many people of different fields of expertise on the board. I mentioned this compliance check and suggested that if the group's documents are buried in a file cabinet somewhere they be found and made available for quick retrieval as I am sure a surprise visit will be forthcoming. One of our members is a senior accountant with one of the big accounting firms. He rolled his eyes and mentioned not only the comp compliance checks but the state has hired a huge number of tax auditors and is raking businesses over the coals with deep audits that they have not done in years (many of his clients). Turning over all the sofa cushions looking for nickels and dimes as the state is deep in the red from all the money going to support the illegals (NYC is also facing massive budget cuts due to all the money being spent on sheltering them - it is hilarious to hear all the virtual signaling groups crying over the budget cuts that hit them yet they were so vocal earlier in supporting open borders before the migrants showed up). Honestly, I could see the state looking for any sources of revenue it can find including suing out-of-state businesses to get them to comply with New York laws. It costs the state lawyer salaries to sue but out of state businesses hundreds of thousands to defend themselves. |
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Posted: 11/17/2023 9:54:25 AM EDT
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Last time I bought ammo was in October at a walmart in Mansfield. No issues. Time before that was before all the bullshit went into effect, but was in Bradford.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 11:31:36 AM EDT
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Has anyone bought in Jersey? Not sure what rules those guys have to deal with.
thanks |
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Posted: 11/17/2023 12:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HBARCharlie: Has anyone bought in Jersey? Not sure what rules those guys have to deal with. thanks |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 4:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HBARCharlie: Has anyone bought in Jersey? Not sure what rules those guys have to deal with. thanks  All have weird laws in place - New York is just the latest to pile it on even harder. Sadly there are no easy out-of-state options for people downstate as the nearby states are bad.
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USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 6:13:37 PM EDT
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I just bought ammo in CT. I have a CT non resident license which is all they need to sell you however much you want to buy.
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Posted: 12/26/2023 7:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts All have weird laws in place - New York is just the latest to pile it on even harder. Sadly there are no easy out-of-state options for people downstate as the nearby states are bad.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: Originally Posted By HBARCharlie: Has anyone bought in Jersey? Not sure what rules those guys have to deal with. thanks All have weird laws in place - New York is just the latest to pile it on even harder. Sadly there are no easy out-of-state options for people downstate as the nearby states are bad.Y'all need to drive further south.... .....with all your stuff packed. ......and never return I did back in 1996 (born and raised on Long island). |
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Posted: 12/27/2023 9:00:14 AM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:16:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ButchA61]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aardvark: New York would do what they have done in the past with dealers down south. Sue them in Federal court on some BS. Basically bankrupt the stores with legal fees even if the case has no merit. Not like anyone in the Biden administration will stand with the PA stores. Anyone remember when Bloomberg had private investigators do straw purchases down south and then sued those stores (who finally capitulated to save lawyers fees)? Good morning from Virginia... (Grew up in New York - Poughkeepsie area, back in the 60's & 70's). I remember that down here in the Richmond, VA area. Bloomberg and his henchmen went all up and down I-95, etc... and went way overboard (illegally) with their nonsense.  I remember an older guy who was a fantastic FFL dealer, always at the gun shows, etc... All of the sudden, he's not at gun shows, and suddenly closed up his shop. Whatever Bloomberg's men did, Lord only knows, or how they did a "set up" on him. But the old man had no choice but to shut down or pay $$$ in legal fees trying to fight it. Edit: I agree with many other posts on here. New Yorkers.... Please.... GET OUT NOW, WHILE YOU CAN!!! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:28:01 AM EDT
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+3 get out of the third world toilet... Its a coming with all the imports..
Btw make sure you tell all liberals to stay and enjoy what they created. We don't want them down south. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2024 12:24:54 PM EDT
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I buy .22lr ammo at the Bradford Walmart without issue, although the lady I usually see at the counter told me Walmart won't allow the sale of semi-auto rifles to NYS residents, the gun shops there and other parts nearby don't care and will sell you anything.
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Posted: 1/13/2024 6:53:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JKH: I buy .22lr ammo at the Bradford Walmart without issue, although the lady I usually see at the counter told me Walmart won't allow the sale of semi-auto rifles to NYS residents, the gun shops there and other parts nearby don't care and will sell you anything. That's a lawsuit. Good thing I have Dewey, Screwem, and Howe on speed dial. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 7:59:59 PM EDT
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Sorry to resurrect an older mostly dead thread. I found a gun store 5 minutes south of the NY border and 20 minutes south of Binghamton. The owner lives in NY and loves selling guns and ammo to NYers. If your pistol permit has the semi auto rifle endorsement, he will sell you a NY compliant semi auto rifle.
He told me to tell as many NYers as possible. It is in Great Bend, PA. Easy to find. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 4:41:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JKH: I buy .22lr ammo at the Bradford Walmart without issue, although the lady I usually see at the counter told me Walmart won't allow the sale of semi-auto rifles to NYS residents, the gun shops there and other parts nearby don't care and will sell you anything. The firearms thing is different; the sale must conform to the laws of the state the buyer resides in. There WAS some legislation being bounced around in Albany last year that would make it illegal for NYers to buy ammo across the state line. I doubt it passed but even by suggesting it you know they're trying to find some way to prohibit it |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 3:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc556guy: There WAS some legislation being bounced around in Albany last year that would make it illegal for NYers to buy ammo across the state line. New York has no jurisdiction across the state line. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:04:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: New York has no jurisdiction across the state line. No, but could they say any ammunition possessed in NY must have been purchased from an authorized ammunition dealer in NYS. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: No, but could they say any ammunition possessed in NY must have been purchased from an authorized ammunition dealer in NYS. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By Zero6: New York has no jurisdiction across the state line. No, but could they say any ammunition possessed in NY must have been purchased from an authorized ammunition dealer in NYS. They can say anything they want. Do we have to listen? "Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, gives Congress the power to regulate commerce between foreign nations, states, and Indian tribes. It also prohibits states from interfering with interstate commerce." |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: New York has no jurisdiction across the state line. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: Originally Posted By tc556guy: There WAS some legislation being bounced around in Albany last year that would make it illegal for NYers to buy ammo across the state line. New York has no jurisdiction across the state line. They can pull the Bloomberg BS and send narcs to buy ammo and then file suit in civil court. That scares small businesses plenty. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:13:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: They can say anything they want. Do we have to listen? "Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, gives Congress the power to regulate commerce between foreign nations, states, and Indian tribes. It also prohibits states from interfering with interstate commerce." You can buy ammo in any state you want, you just can't bring it back into NY. No different than fireworks Until the courts start treating the 2A like an actual right, anything goes |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:35:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: You can buy ammo in any state you want, you just can't bring it back into NY. Who would know if you did? I have ammo in my car all the time. How can they prove I bought it in another state? What is the criminal charge if they did somehow prove I bought it in another state? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:22:53 AM EDT
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Things went ok in Vermont…
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:34:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: Who would know if you did? I have ammo in my car all the time. How can they prove I bought it in another state? What is the criminal charge if they did somehow prove I bought it in another state? All of that is up to the imagination of the mental giants in Albany |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 6:00:02 PM EDT
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They will probably change the law to be like the one in CA that prohibits residents from importing ammo into the state. A Cal resident can buy ammo in Nevada but can’t bring it home to CA.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 8:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secamp32: They will probably change the law to be like the one in CA that prohibits residents from importing ammo into the state. If they really think that will work, why don't they just change the law to prohibit residents from importing fentanyl into the state? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:47:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zero6: If they really think that will work, why don't they just change the law to prohibit residents from importing fentanyl into the state? They don’t care if it works |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:55:41 AM EDT
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FWIW, friend went to a PA Cabela’s last week to pick up ammo. Was told by the counter guy Cabela’s corporate put out a letter stating they are to check DLs for any ammo purchase and refuse ammo sale to NY residents.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:04:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sherm8404: FWIW, friend went to a PA Cabela’s last week to pick up ammo. Was told by the counter guy Cabela’s corporate put out a letter stating they are to check DLs for any ammo purchase and refuse ammo sale to NY residents. It’s working |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:35:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sherm8404: FWIW, friend went to a PA Cabela's last week to pick up ammo. Was told by the counter guy Cabela's corporate put out a letter stating they are to check DLs for any ammo purchase and refuse ammo sale to NY residents. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:02:35 PM EDT
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A friend of mine said the same thing happened to him at a different gun store in PA.
This is Not Good! You think they all got threat letters from NYS? |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:38:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: It's working Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By sherm8404: FWIW, friend went to a PA Cabela's last week to pick up ammo. Was told by the counter guy Cabela's corporate put out a letter stating they are to check DLs for any ammo purchase and refuse ammo sale to NY residents. It's working 
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lion: Amazing how Cabela's buys into this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lion: Originally Posted By sherm8404: FWIW, friend went to a PA Cabela's last week to pick up ammo. Was told by the counter guy Cabela's corporate put out a letter stating they are to check DLs for any ammo purchase and refuse ammo sale to NY residents. Hell ….the gun manufacturers buy into it |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 2:28:13 PM EDT
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FWIW, I called Cabelas in Harrisburg. No restrictions at all for NY residents.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 10:22:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Spydermonkey]
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FYI if any of you vacation to NC or SC and stop at a Palmetto, PSA has a corporate policy now to not sell ammo to anyone with a NY ID. You can have a friend or family member with you and hand them a southern ID and you pay for it. Kinda like a straw ammo purchase to get around corporate policy.
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spydermonkey: FYI if any of you vacation to NC or SC and stop at a Palmetto, PSA has a corporate policy now to not sell ammo to anyone with a NY ID. You can have a friend or family member with you and hand them a southern ID and you pay for it. Kinda like a straw ammo purchase to get around corporate policy. I was recently shopping at a PSA and nobody asked to see my id. No, I’m not telling you what was purchased. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 12:36:19 AM EDT
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Here in Las Vegas Nevada the big box stores are checking ID for ammunition purchases. No sales to out of state residents. I am unaware of any local gun shops doing such nonsense. I saw signs at Walmart and Big 5.
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