Originally Posted By Phoenix_III:
I just read a statement where the AG conceded that 'all other requirements still apply', meaning they seem to be (immediately) recognizing the justifiable need is gone.

I haven't found a single place (don't do Facebook) talking about the steps to apply. Like, when doing the form in triplicate, can it be a photocopy or needs to be ink on all 3? Your references have to fill out the same form 3x, on the same form the other 2 references use?

Stupid stuff like that, but don't want the form kicked back.

Instructions: https://www.nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/Permit_to_Carry_Instructions_v1.pdf

Form: https://www.nj.gov/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/sp-642.pdf

Mental Health: https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/pdf/sp-066.pdf


If someone knows where to go that would be good. njgunforums seems dead to this (at least under the passed legislation subforum).

Originally Posted By Phoenix_III:
Google maybe?

"Carrying a handgun without a permit is still illegal in this state, and all other requirements for obtaining a carry permit still apply," Platkin said.

June 24, 2022.  At a press event this morning, Gov. Phil Murphy begrudgingly acknowledged the decision in the Bruen right to carry case, and in an executive order simultaneously tasked all state agencies and departments to focus on limiting right to carry by declaring as many places as possible to be gun free zones, and to limit how firearms are carried, transported, and conveyed.

Click here to see Murphy's remarks, and click here to see his executive order.

Memo to Gov. Murphy: the old days are over, and Bruen blocks government schemes to interfere with right to carry by law-abiding citizens.  Anything the government does post-Bruen to change long-established right to carry rules in NJ will come back to bite him, badly.  The days of weaponizing government to deny citizens their basic rights are over.

Please stay turned for further updates.

June 24, 2022. At the close of business today, and in light of the Bruen decision, the New Jersey Attorney General issued a directive to law enforcement agencies and prosecutors mandating that NJ carry permit applications now be processed WITHOUT an applicant having to prove "justifiable need."

CLICK HERE to see a copy of the directive.

The effect of this directive is to remove any doubt that the Bruen decision applies in New Jersey, and that someone applying for a concealed carry permit in the Garden State need only satisfy typical requirements, such as:

1.        Passing state-mandated background checks.
2.        Submitting three references.
3.        Satisfying the state-mandated training requirement for carry permits.

While Gov. Murphy has announced that he intends to try to limit carry in every way possible, whatever actions he tries to take will have to pass Constitutional muster under Bruen. Today's announcement by the Attorney General is nothing short of EARTH-SHAKING and represents the culmination of decades of incredibly difficult work by gun owners.

CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERY HONEST GUN OWNER IN NEW JERSEY!

Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:
Yet the governor is sigining an EO to make CC damn near impossible.

Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
My dept. hasn't received any guidance yet. Issuing carry permits is going to be the easy part anyway, it's all the other stuff, like are we going to be a "Duty to Inform" state? Hollowpoins still banned? Definition of concealed? Etc.

Also, does a carry permit superseded a LEO'S permit to carry? LEO's are required to qualify with off-duty guns in order to carry them off-duty, and must follow department rules in regards to off-duty guns (my department doesn't allow us to carry revolvers or 1911 style pistols off-duty for example), but if I get a regular carry permit I no longer have to qualify and can carry whatever I want, while also ignoring the capacity limits?

Originally Posted By Phoenix_III:
It's 10rds now btw.

I'm a certified instructor so not too worried unless they make a new cert up

I'll wait till Monday

Originally Posted By GonnaNeedaBiggerBoat:
My printer is patiently waiting to go BRRR with the forms, but what counts as for the training and where can we find an approved course to take?  That's probably where they'll find ways to fuck us over.

Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
I'm a 2A absolutist. You don't have to explain that to me.

Under N.J.S. 2C:58-4d., a person must satisfy the Court that he/she is:

a person of good character and not subject to the disabilities of N.J.S. 2C:58-3c.;thoroughly familiar with the use and safe handling of the handgun.

What is “good character” under New Jersey law?

Overall “good character” is an objective standard based on the disqualifications listed under N.J.S. 2C:58-3c. However, it could also be based on subjective standards, such as “in the interest of public health, safety or welfare” or merely for being named on the Federal Terrorist Watchlist. In any case, “good character” disqualifications may include any person who:

has been convicted of a crime or a disorderly persons offense involving an act of domestic violence;is drug dependent;has been confined for a mental disorder to a hospital or mental institution;is a habitual drunkard;suffers from a physical defect or disease which would make it unsafe to handle firearms;is an alcoholic;falsifies information on the application form;is under the age of 18;is a person where the issuance would not be in the interest of public health, safety or welfare;is a person subject to a court order under the Domestic Violence Act prohibiting firearm possession;is a person who as a juvenile was adjudicated delinquent for an offense which, if committed by an adult, would constitute a crime and involved the unlawful use or possession of a weapon, explosive or destructive device or was one of the offenses enumerated under the No Early Release Act (NERA), which include murder, aggravated manslaughter, manslaughter, vehicular homicide, aggravated assault, disarming a law enforcement officer, kidnapping, aggravated sexual assault, sexual assault, robbery, carjacking, aggravated arson, burglary, extortion, booby traps in CDS manufacturing or distribution facilities, strict liability for drug induced deaths, terrorism, possessing chemical weapons, biological agents, or nuclear devices, and first degree racketeering;is a person whose firearm is seized pursuant to the “Prevention of Domestic Violence Act of 1991,” C.2C:25-17 et seq. and whose firearm has not been returned;is named on the consolidated Terrorist Watchlist maintained by the Terrorist Screening Center administered by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.any person who is subject to a court order prohibiting the custody, control, ownership, purchase, possession, or receipt of a firearm or ammunition issued pursuant to the “Extreme Risk Protective Order Act of 2018,” P.L.2018, c.35 (C.2C:58-20 et al.).

What constitutes safe handling of a firearm under New Jersey law?

A:  Safe handling of a firearm is an objective standard met by meeting the requirements of N.J.A.C. 13:54-2.4(b).

Each applicant shall demonstrate a thorough familiarity with the safe handling and use of handguns by indicating in the space provided therefor on the application form, and on any sworn attachments thereto, any relevant information. Thorough familiarity with the safe handling and use of handguns shall be evidenced by:

Completion of a firearms training course substantially equivalent to the firearms training approved by the Police Training Commission as described by N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6j;Submission of an applicant’s most recent handgun qualification scores utilizing the handgun(s) he or she intends to carry as evidenced by test firings administered by a certified firearms instructor of a police academy, a certified firearms instructor of the National Rifle Association, or any other recognized certified firearms instructor; orPassage of any test in this State’s laws governing the use of force administered by a certified instructor of a police academy, a certified instructor of the National Rifle Association, or any other recognized certified instructor.

How does one apply for a New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun?

A:  As per the New Jersey State Police (NJSP) Firearms Information FAQ, if you reside in New Jersey, you must apply with municipal police department where reside. If the municipality where you reside is serviced by the New Jersey State Police, you must apply at the station which covers your municipality. Out of state residents must apply to the New Jersey State Police station nearest to their geographic location.

Applications forms are available to download online at

https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/forms.shtml

Here are the steps to follow when for a New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun as also gleaned from the NJSP:

The following instructions are the same for the initial and renewal application

Complete a State of New Jersey Application for Permit to Carry a Handgun,
in triplicate. All references must know the applicant for a minimum of three (3) years prior to the date of the application.All original copies must be notarized.Submit four color passport size photographs with your application package.Complete the Consent for Mental Health Search.Submit in writing a justifiable reason / need for the issuance of a permit toWritten proof of qualification and ownership with the handgun(s) you intend oncarrying if your application is approved. This must be recent at the time of the application and must also be obtained from a certified firearms instructor.A money order in the amount of $50.00 payable to: “Treasurer, State of New Jersey” All armored car guard applications shall be submitted to the appropriate New Jersey State Police Barracks. All others (non-Armored car guards) shall be submitted to the law enforcement agency where the applicant resides. If your town of  residence is covered by a State Police barracks on a full-time basis, submit to that barracks.

If part time, submit to that municipal police department. All out of state applicants must submit to the closest New Jersey State Police Barracks (not to include New Jersey State Police Barracks located on toll roads) to where they are geographically located.

*If you are in need of further assistance or direction, contact your local Municipal Police Department or State Police Barracks for guidance.

How long should it take for the Chief or the Superintendent to approve or deny an application prior to it going to the Superior Court for final disposition by a Judge?

A:  The application must be approved or denied within 60 days of filing. If the application is not approved or denied within 60 days of filing, it shall be deemed approved by the Chief or Superintendent unless the applicant agrees to an extension of time in writing.

What may a person do if he/she has been denied a New Jersey Permit to Carry a Handgun?

A:  Under N.J.S. 2C:58-4e., a person who has been denied a permit to carry a handgun may request a hearing in Superior Court in the County in which he/she is a resident. The request must be made in writing within 30 days of the denial. A copy is served upon the Superintendent of the State Police, County Prosecutor and Chief of Police of the municipality in which he/she resides if he is a resident of New Jersey. Under New Jersey law, the hearing shall be held within 30 days of the receipt of the request

Originally Posted By Phoenix_III:
Submitted everything this morning. The LT is a good person, said it will be a learning curve for him too. There is supposed to be training in a few weeks on how to handle the changes. He said he has done about 2 of these in his years with the department, and literally had to hand them to the Superior Court Clerk and go through the app with them.

I offered to do anything/everything to make it easier, that I really did not want to have a 'deny' on there as it would necessitate writing it in on subsequent applications. He understood. Again, seems like a good dude so fingers crossed.

I did also submit my NRA certs (Rifle Pistol Shotgun and Firearm Safety in the Home), as well as 'proof of ownership' (which, BTW, is now a great Red Flag database because several firearms were purchased prior to moving to NJ).

I'll keep the team informed.

Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
I cannot stress enough to people here to wait for the procedure to come out.

When I get updates I'll post em here.

Originally Posted By Phoenix_III:
There is a ton of misinformation around on the internet with people quoting all sorts of things.

The course should be substantially similar to a firearms training course approved by the Police Training Commission.

We will see what happens. I'm in a different spot than others as an instructor, the courses were different to become an instructor vs. say receiving the normal endorsements. I will inquire (as will others) as to what is approved/best.

Originally Posted By grady:
NJ carry permit instructions and application have been updated, effective today.

https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/forms.shtml

Originally Posted By TheTallest:
So, we have to get fingerprinted a second time? Having an FID and already being in the system doesn’t count? Either I’m an idiot; which I am, or the instructions aren’t very clear.

Originally Posted By resteva:
My question if anyone knows is. Are the individuals who vouch for you required to be present when they sign the form in front of the public notary?

Originally Posted By Tom488:

No.  The part being notarized is the applicant's signature to the following:

_________________, being duly sworn, upon oath deposes and states that he/she is the applicant named on page one of this application; that the answers to the questions given on this application are complete, true and correct in every particular.

That's why it's in its own separate box.