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Posted: 7/5/2023 11:32:00 PM EDT
On July 12th there releasing a new gun.

https://www.springfieldpremiere.com/giveaway/
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 12:07:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Looks like a sword
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 1:32:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tejas1836:
Looks like a sword
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A Gladius.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 2:44:26 AM EDT
[#3]
S&W is announcing a new product on the 11th. The question is, what is it.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 8:03:17 AM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By GSPatton:
A Gladius.
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Originally Posted By GSPatton:
Originally Posted By Tejas1836:
Looks like a sword
A Gladius.



Better hope George Gardner hasn’t trademarked the term yet in relation to a firearm.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 8:52:22 AM EDT
[#5]
Gee, I wonder if it will be a striker fired 9mm?
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:24:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Hammer fired .357 SIG.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:37:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Garrison Commander.

Please
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:39:19 AM EDT
[#8]
Striker fired 9mm. trying to compete with Glock
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 11:24:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cooper1:
Garrison Commander.

Please
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I'd buy one.

ETA: But I bet it's some sort of rifle or something with a whole new name
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 12:34:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thatguybryan] [#10]
The Gladius (short sword) makes me think something a little smaller, and I am thinking it could be a Staccato CS competitor. I don’t think it’ll be an SA35 shorty because of the name difference, but I could be wrong.

It could also be a Sig Spear competitor..
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 6:00:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Are you not entertained?!
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:25:38 PM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By AFSOC_COP:
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Not at all.  Takes a lot to get my attention these days.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:31:50 PM EDT
[#13]
I'll be at one of the into events in two Saturdays. I'm curious if it will be worth the drive.
I'm just hoping it works better than the Prodigy they let me (attempt to) shoot at their last event.
Link Posted: 7/7/2023 2:49:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Someone shared an image of it in the thread about it in GD:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Springfield-Armory-new-firearm-release/5-2655606/&page=5&anc=104853852

Full-size gun at least modeled in part after the Hellcat with a removable fire control unit like Sig P320’s.
Link Posted: 7/7/2023 10:55:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos] [#15]








Threaded barrel version at launch. UPC circled.
Link Posted: 7/8/2023 8:23:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Looks like a sig P320 with interchangeable back straps and trigger safety.
Link Posted: 7/9/2023 8:44:08 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 7/9/2023 9:17:17 AM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:


Looks more like an XD to me.  Same shape to the trigger guard.  


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I was thinking an APX and and XD trapped a drunk M&P in a dark alley....
Link Posted: 7/9/2023 9:46:01 AM EDT
[#19]
No grip zone!
Link Posted: 7/10/2023 4:49:07 PM EDT
[#20]
The frame protrusion around the mag release seems awkward to me.
Link Posted: 7/10/2023 11:46:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Will buy one.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 12:34:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stonia:
The frame protrusion around the mag release seems awkward to me.
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Recessive Sigma genes from the S&W side of the family.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 1:44:27 AM EDT
[#23]
SA version of a P320. Looks to be modular chassis.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 2:39:04 AM EDT
[#24]
More Croatian imports at 400% markup? SIGN ME UP!!!
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 12:52:25 PM EDT
[#25]
Great looking handgun with modularity ... if it takes XDm mags I'll might try one ...
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 12:44:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: recon] [#26]
ALL NEW Springfield Armory Echelon 9mm Optic Ready Pistol | Review



Echelon™ - Springfield Armory®
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 6:02:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ScoutH57] [#27]
Actually looks pretty cool. No gripzone.


Optic mounting system looks pretty cool and well engineered too.



And still a better name than Hellion
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 6:55:31 AM EDT
[#28]
The Sig all the Glock fanbois want
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 8:42:18 AM EDT
[#29]
Wow, that looks pretty nice actually. The optic system is a nice touch.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 9:09:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GreyBeardBiker] [#30]
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Originally Posted By Stonia:
Wow, that looks pretty nice actually. The optic system is a nice touch.
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I do like the looks of this new pistol. It kind of makes me think a bit of the VP-9 or Walther PDP. The universal RD mounting system is the Boss. I do wonder when SA will make a pistol which gains adoption in LEO circles??
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 9:13:24 AM EDT
[#31]
It's a rip off of Sig.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 9:35:02 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ... that was a shit ton of techno-babble jargon in the second video.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 10:06:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos] [#33]


Looks like an XDM Mag cut but definitely a different follower.



The 2nd sear in the design is also very interesting.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 12:21:43 PM EDT
[#34]
I think this thing looks pretty great-- I especially like how the grip modules actually come in different sizes for different sized hands and those slide serrations. I wonder if a 10mm could be in the future or if this is just a 9mm platform.

Alas, I probably would have bought this instead of an XDM, but I don't need another polymer 9mm.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:07:00 PM EDT
[#35]
So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ...

Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ...

I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ...
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:


They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over.....
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ...

Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ...

I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ...


They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over.....


Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ...
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:28:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Looks identical to the Beretta APX.   Not that it’s a bad thing.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:34:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ...

Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ...

I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ...
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I wonder if they had to change the taper angle somewhat to get the top of the mag to fit inside the chassis insert vs. the XDM mags.  Would have to get them side by side to be sure.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 2:52:34 PM EDT
[#40]
I played with one today, I work for a distributor. Nice pistol with a good trigger/short reset. Slide feels great the way they cut it. Very comfy grip with great texture. Should be a winner for them.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 4:00:57 PM EDT
[#41]
The most in depth Springfield Armory Echelon Review You Will See!


Starting at 30 minutes 13 seconds regarding magazine compatibility.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 4:08:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
Looks identical to the Beretta APX.   Not that it’s a bad thing.
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It resembles an APX in the grossest sense. But identical? Nope.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 4:47:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: X_Ring_903] [#43]
Picked mine up today. Pointed great and the trigger is the best factory trigger I’ve felt. Looking forward to spending some time behind it this weekend.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 5:10:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ...
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Originally Posted By Melvin_Johnson:
Originally Posted By thehun06:
So ... instead of keeping with XDm mags (which are one of the best in the business) ... affordable ...

Springfield goes on and introduces a Echelon mag ... HOW STUPID ... if you wanted XDM dudes and gals to switch ... should have made it XDM mag compatible ...

I'm out Springfield ... good looking and promising gun but you kind of screwed up in the mag department ...


They should have made it run on Glock mags to pull all those guys over.....


Glock at least makes it backward compatible ... having the Echelon with its own proprietary magazine was a dumb move ...
The XDM in 9mm and .40 S&W wasn't backwards compatible with the XD. Only the XD45 and XDM45 are and it appears that Echelon isn't in .45 ACP. I have an original HS2000 in 9mm and a XD45 and XDM45, plus a gazillion GLOCKs.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 5:23:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Boring

I like my plastic pistols but I’m burned out on them
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 5:36:26 PM EDT
[#46]
I sold a LOT of these today in a otherwise pretty slow gun market.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 5:42:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Meh
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 5:45:22 PM EDT
[#48]
The issue of magazine compatibility is really not as big an issue as one thinks it is. Look at FN, Beretta, SIG, HK, S&W, and even Ruger. They all come out with new shit that is compatible with the old stuff. Hell, the goal of a manufacturer is to get folks to buy a new product and all the new ancillary components to it.
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 6:53:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ScoutH57:
Actually looks pretty cool. No gripzone.


Optic mounting system looks pretty cool and well engineered too.



And still a better name than Hellion
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😢
Link Posted: 7/12/2023 7:43:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Timmy668] [#50]
My reliability concern is the ten holes for the optics mounting in the thinnest part of the slide.
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