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Posted: 1/11/2016 2:30:08 PM EDT
I've been shooting Glocks since the early Mesozoic period and am considering transitioning to something different. The VP9 has my attention as a potential greener pasture for my polymer, striker fired needs.
I have questions. It looks like the OEM night sights are meps with annoying white outlines on the rear sight, is that correct? I'm old and my eyes suck so if that's the case I'd probably put HD's or something on it myself. LGS has them listed at 613, is that reasonable? I don't see where I can do much better online after FFL transfer, shipping and general ass ache. I know mags and accessories will be more scarce/expensive than I'm used to with Glocks. What else should I know? Thanks! |
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Thats a good price for a lgs. Mine had it for 599 for the reg one. I too am a fan of the trijicon hd's. Mags are 40 plus. You can always sell the stock night sights on here and recoup some of that cash.
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I purchased my vp9 about 4 months ago. payed around 599 for it. I love it. the sights could be upgraded to true night sights. they glow in the dark once introduced to light but fade after being in the dark after a little while. the cheapest magazines I have found for it are around $43. online. from everything that i read they say that the P30 Mags will work for the vp9 which is great if you already have a P30, if not your back to spending $40 dollars for a mag. with all that being said, I love the gun and everything about it. fully ambidextrous, It shoots great. it comes with different size back straps, and also different sized side panels for the grip. a lot of other manufactures only give you the backstraps. comes with two mags. it was designed so that your hand sits higher while holding it which brings the recoil back towards you rather than getting the muzzle jump, this allows you to get back on target quicker. I can't say enough about this gun. The only gun i carried was my Glock or my Springfield XDM until i purchased the vp9. Now it is my everyday carry.
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I just picked up a LE model (1 extra mag and true night sights) for $669. Most places around here have the standard package for 699 still.
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I was in the same boat as you. I had carried my beloved G17 on duty 5 years (one OIS with it), but after shooting the VP9, I was hooked! The gun felt as if it was surgically attached to my hand and accuracy the likes of which I can only describe as "using The Force".
There was a LOT of sacrafice in moving from the G17 to the VP9; Mags only held 15 rds instead of 17, Mags costs at least twice as much, no armorer support at my Dept (which has an abundance of Glock Armorers), aftermarket parts and accessories were more expensive and less prolific than Glock (it took almost a month to have Safariland make me a 6900 series holster for duty), and I'd have to get used to the HK magazine release (my hands are big enough that I can actuate it with my thumb or index finger) and the slide stop (my traditional firing grip covers it, sometimes, preventing the gun from locking open on the last round fired, which was never a problem with my G17). Still, I made the switch in April 2015 and I am happy. I still have my G17 and no intentions of dumping it. I carry a G19 off duty and I am happy with that...until the VP9sk arrives that is. |
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Well shoot OP, you did not mess around and went for it right away
Good thing I read the whole thread, as I was going to offer you the option of shooting mine before you buy, lol. |
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I intended to just fondle one but I saw it LNIB so I went for it. Now I need to get the sights swapped out.
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Nice OP you will not be disappointed with the buy. I bought my LE model for $609 with the nights and 3 mags last year and was a long time glock guy. I shoot the VP9 more consistent than I do my 19 or my 23 and just feels right.
The only thing I would have liked was that the overall size was the same as the 19/23. Of course mag prices kind of suck , but im not buying 30 of them so not a big deal in my opinion. |
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Does anyone else find it annoyting that the trigger is spongy when the pistol is not cocked?
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There is zero point in diddling your trigger. It can't go off uncocked.
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Quoted: There is zero point in diddling your trigger. It can't go off uncocked. View Quote I am talking about how the trigger moves significantly when uncocked, somewhat similar to the feel of a pistol that is ready to fire. In believe the "dead trigger", an indicator of the current status of the weapon, should be a tactile and visual indicator of the position of the striker. The VP9 trigger returns to its' original position, and has significant movement prior to giving that "dead" feel to the shooter. |
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Quoted: I'll give you the same answer that I gave your post in the other thread you posted asking the same question: You're improperly dry firing it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Not what I meant. I'm not talking about the gun "going off", which I believe is a fairly irresponsible term for firing a firearm. "It just went off" is an exclamation for someone who caused themselves to negligently discharge their firearm. I am talking about how the trigger moves significantly when uncocked, somewhat similar to the feel of a pistol that is ready to fire. In believe the "dead trigger", an indicator of the current status of the weapon, should be a tactile and visual indicator of the position of the striker. The VP9 trigger returns to its' original position, and has significant movement prior to giving that "dead" feel to the shooter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There is zero point in diddling your trigger. It can't go off uncocked. I am talking about how the trigger moves significantly when uncocked, somewhat similar to the feel of a pistol that is ready to fire. In believe the "dead trigger", an indicator of the current status of the weapon, should be a tactile and visual indicator of the position of the striker. The VP9 trigger returns to its' original position, and has significant movement prior to giving that "dead" feel to the shooter. Well, if things ain't working that's a good indication, no? Interpret "going off" however you want. It was hyperbole. A euphemism. Whatever. How ever you want to take it... |
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Replied in the other thread. I am not. I am fully aware of what dry fire is, and how to conduct it properly, in a safe manner. Go read my response over there... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does anyone else find it annoyting that the trigger is spongy when the pistol is not cocked? You're improperly dry firing it. |
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Quoted: The VP9 has a superb trigger when it is ready to fire, and that's all that concerns me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Does anyone else find it annoyting that the trigger is spongy when the pistol is not cocked? The VP9 has a superb trigger when it is ready to fire, and that's all that concerns me. |
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Quoted: Something is not right, like it's an attempt to use two threads to try and make an attempt at a frivolous "fault" and demonize it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does anyone else find it annoyting that the trigger is spongy when the pistol is not cocked? You're improperly dry firing it. |
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Not attempting to demonize anything...I was asking questions, that's it. I like the gun. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Does anyone else find it annoyting that the trigger is spongy when the pistol is not cocked? You're improperly dry firing it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll give you the same answer that I gave your post in the other thread you posted asking the same question: You're improperly dry firing it. |
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You should know that you will shoot more accurately and faster than with a Glock.
You should know that it has a paddle type mag release. I transitioned to it with no issues…some folks hate it and it's a deal breaker. $613 is a good price. If you hunt around, you can find mags for $35 or so a piece instead of $50. I EDC'ed a G23 for years, and since getting my VP9, It is all I have carried. I won't go back to Glock willingly…and I like my Glocks. |
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You should know that you will shoot more accurately and faster than with a Glock. You should know that it has a paddle type mag release. I transitioned to it with no issues…some folks hate it and it's a deal breaker. $613 is a good price. If you hunt around, you can find mags for $35 or so a piece instead of $50. I EDC'ed a G23 for years, and since getting my VP9, It is all I have carried. I won't go back to Glock willingly…and I like my Glocks. View Quote Mags at the LGS where I bought the VP9 are $45 so I have that as a plan B if I don't find a deal online. In dry practice the paddle mag release isn't slowing me down any although I seem to randomly either use my thumb or index finger. I guess my hand hasn't picked a favorite method yet. I'll put a few hundred rounds through it this weekend and *hopefully* get new sights installed. Other than different sights I don't think this gun needs anything. |
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Mags at the LGS where I bought the VP9 are $45 so I have that as a plan B if I don't find a deal online. In dry practice the paddle mag release isn't slowing me down any although I seem to randomly either use my thumb or index finger. I guess my hand hasn't picked a favorite method yet. I'll put a few hundred rounds through it this weekend and *hopefully* get new sights installed. Other than different sights I don't think this gun needs anything. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should know that you will shoot more accurately and faster than with a Glock. You should know that it has a paddle type mag release. I transitioned to it with no issues…some folks hate it and it's a deal breaker. $613 is a good price. If you hunt around, you can find mags for $35 or so a piece instead of $50. I EDC'ed a G23 for years, and since getting my VP9, It is all I have carried. I won't go back to Glock willingly…and I like my Glocks. Mags at the LGS where I bought the VP9 are $45 so I have that as a plan B if I don't find a deal online. In dry practice the paddle mag release isn't slowing me down any although I seem to randomly either use my thumb or index finger. I guess my hand hasn't picked a favorite method yet. I'll put a few hundred rounds through it this weekend and *hopefully* get new sights installed. Other than different sights I don't think this gun needs anything. |
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What are you all carrying your VP9s in? I typically carry IWB in an MTAC.
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I keep the mags on my Midway USA wish list so they send me an email when the go on sale. Last year they sent me a 10% off coupon for my birthday which happened to be right after I bought VP9 so I think I paid about $34 per.
The only problem I had with the pistol were the grip panels and trigger bite. When I first got it I made the grip as big as possible and it felt great until the first time I shot it and the trigger pinched the tip of my finger. I changed the grips back to the way it came out of the box and no more problems. Great gun, and my wife shoots it better than I do... |
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Last I knew, Midway was selling them for $38 EA I think. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should know that you will shoot more accurately and faster than with a Glock. You should know that it has a paddle type mag release. I transitioned to it with no issues…some folks hate it and it's a deal breaker. $613 is a good price. If you hunt around, you can find mags for $35 or so a piece instead of $50. I EDC'ed a G23 for years, and since getting my VP9, It is all I have carried. I won't go back to Glock willingly…and I like my Glocks. Mags at the LGS where I bought the VP9 are $45 so I have that as a plan B if I don't find a deal online. In dry practice the paddle mag release isn't slowing me down any although I seem to randomly either use my thumb or index finger. I guess my hand hasn't picked a favorite method yet. I'll put a few hundred rounds through it this weekend and *hopefully* get new sights installed. Other than different sights I don't think this gun needs anything. You can use Ammo Seek to price mags anytime you're shopping. |
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range.
Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. |
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I've had issues with Winchester White box with my CZ75B, M&P9 VTAC, and the VP9. I'd avoid if possible from my experience.
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I've had issues with Winchester White box with my CZ75B, M&P9 VTAC, and the VP9. I'd avoid if possible from my experience. I shoot a ton of it in .45 and 9mm without issue. When contacted to address the issue, their CS is in denial. At least when I contacted Speer about a brand new out of the box cartridge coming loose, not only did they replace my factory box of ammo when I sent it in, I was sent two boxes of 50 count GDHP's back for my trouble with apologies when all I sent in was one box of 20. Was just trying to give a heads up, was not meant to disturb you, sir. |
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So have I. Their .45 works great and always goes bang, and is good to go to reload. Their 9x19 however, not so great. And it's been mentioned in the reloading forum that some of their 9x19 brass is out of spec to reload, and I have dealt with quite a few out of spec 9x19 cases that end up in the trash. When contacted to address the issue, their CS is in denial. At least when I contacted Speer about a brand new out of the box cartridge coming loose, not only did they replace my factory box of ammo when I sent it in, I was sent two boxes of 50 count GDHP's back for my trouble with apologies when all I sent in was one box of 20. Was just trying to give a heads up, was not meant to disturb you, sir. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've had issues with Winchester White box with my CZ75B, M&P9 VTAC, and the VP9. I'd avoid if possible from my experience. I shoot a ton of it in .45 and 9mm without issue. When contacted to address the issue, their CS is in denial. At least when I contacted Speer about a brand new out of the box cartridge coming loose, not only did they replace my factory box of ammo when I sent it in, I was sent two boxes of 50 count GDHP's back for my trouble with apologies when all I sent in was one box of 20. Was just trying to give a heads up, was not meant to disturb you, sir. You didn't disturb me, I've just had good luck with it I guess. I've never tried to reload their 9mm brass though. Assuming you're in the Phx area, can you recommend a local shop for sight installation? |
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You didn't disturb me, I've just had good luck with it I guess. I've never tried to reload their 9mm brass though. Assuming you're in the Phx area, can you recommend a local shop for sight installation? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've had issues with Winchester White box with my CZ75B, M&P9 VTAC, and the VP9. I'd avoid if possible from my experience. I shoot a ton of it in .45 and 9mm without issue. When contacted to address the issue, their CS is in denial. At least when I contacted Speer about a brand new out of the box cartridge coming loose, not only did they replace my factory box of ammo when I sent it in, I was sent two boxes of 50 count GDHP's back for my trouble with apologies when all I sent in was one box of 20. Was just trying to give a heads up, was not meant to disturb you, sir. You didn't disturb me, I've just had good luck with it I guess. I've never tried to reload their 9mm brass though. Assuming you're in the Phx area, can you recommend a local shop for sight installation? We're having a hometown shoot at the end of this month, the thread is in hometown if you're interested. |
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Wasn't he using (shilling and pimping ) that Turkish 9x19 ammo when that happened? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well apparently they fail MAC's torture tests. Don't know, don't care, I'm just having a little fun. |
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range. Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. View Quote I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? |
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I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range. Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? Que? Is this a thing? |
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I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range. Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? I knew about the stepped chamber. I didn't know alum case ammo was verboten. The 100 rounds of it that went through my HK didn't seem to hurt anything. This is probably information in the manual I didn't read huh? |
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I knew about the stepped chamber. I didn't know alum case ammo was verboten. The 100 rounds of it that went through my HK didn't seem to hurt anything. This is probably information in the manual I didn't read huh? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range. Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? I knew about the stepped chamber. I didn't know alum case ammo was verboten. The 100 rounds of it that went through my HK didn't seem to hurt anything. This is probably information in the manual I didn't read huh? I don't know and I'm curious as well. I've read that it use to be in the manual but isn't anymore. I guess from what I've read, the aluminum case doesn't expand as well as brass and with the stepped chamber there can be cracks in the aluminum case. This is alp things I've read and haven't experienced personally. I'm gonna try some with mine as see how the cases look. I was always scared to do it but reading about people having no problems, I'm gonna try it for myself. Alot of people like the federal aluminum ammo for the price and its suppose to be pretty accurate. |
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I don't know and I'm curious as well. I've read that it use to be in the manual but isn't anymore. I guess from what I've read, the aluminum case doesn't expand as well as brass and with the stepped chamber there can be cracks in the aluminum case. This is alp things I've read and haven't experienced personally. I'm gonna try some with mine as see how the cases look. I was always scared to do it but reading about people having no problems, I'm gonna try it for myself. Alot of people like the federal aluminum ammo for the price and its suppose to be pretty accurate. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Finally got to the range with the VP9 so here are my observations. I shot 100 rounds of WWB, 100 rounds of cheapo federal aluminum case, and 50 rounds of my carry HST's. The combination of natural pointability, and a really nice trigger resulted in some really gratifying groups. I have big monkey hands but the small backstrap actually works great for me. I had no pinching of my trigger finger, but it was a short range session. Ejection was very consistent and positive. The Federal aluminum case was chosen as my BTF test since I know that is really weak stuff. It ejected about a foot away, but 0 BTF. The WWB was bouncing off the glass between the shooting lanes. The HST's would probably have been in low earth orbit if I was at an outdoor range. Short version : 0 malfunctions, impressive accuracy, and felt like an extension of my hand. I thought aluminum cased ammo was a no go in hk's because of the stepped chamber? I knew about the stepped chamber. I didn't know alum case ammo was verboten. The 100 rounds of it that went through my HK didn't seem to hurt anything. This is probably information in the manual I didn't read huh? I don't know and I'm curious as well. I've read that it use to be in the manual but isn't anymore. I guess from what I've read, the aluminum case doesn't expand as well as brass and with the stepped chamber there can be cracks in the aluminum case. This is alp things I've read and haven't experienced personally. I'm gonna try some with mine as see how the cases look. I was always scared to do it but reading about people having no problems, I'm gonna try it for myself. Alot of people like the federal aluminum ammo for the price and its suppose to be pretty accurate. |
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LGS has them listed at 613, is that reasonable? I don't see where I can do much better online after FFL transfer, shipping and general ass ache. View Quote im in the phoenix area and contemplating getting one myself. which lgs had it listed at 613? |
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im in the phoenix area and contemplating getting one myself. which lgs had it listed at 613? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LGS has them listed at 613, is that reasonable? I don't see where I can do much better online after FFL transfer, shipping and general ass ache. im in the phoenix area and contemplating getting one myself. which lgs had it listed at 613? Check out Arizona Firearms down by ASU, they're good people. http://arizona-firearms.com/ |
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Try buying usp45 mags. I never see them for sale used and new are 55.
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