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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:51:40 PM EDT
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/politics/baltimore-key-bridge-immigration-analysis/index.html
"All of those missing were immigrants, outsiders who had come to the US from Mexico and Central America for a better life. Their stories and aspirations mirrored the lives of millions of new entrants to the United States. They are far more representative of the migrant population than the extreme and misleading picture often spouted about migrants by Donald Trump. The Republican presumptive nominee often falsely claims foreign countries are sending their "worst people" as a de-facto invasion force to the US. "Under Biden, other countries are emptying out their prisons, insane asylums, mental institutions, dumping everyone including mass numbers of terrorists into our country. They're in our country now," Trump said at a rally in Manchester, New Hampshire, ahead of the state's presidential primary in January." No disrespect to the dead, but where they here legally? Were they paying taxes as well? When are we doing an article on how innocent Americans are killed by some of these people? What about the ones that get into car accidents with no license or insurance? What about all the ones squating, collecting .gov (my/our tax)money? I dont see that article being written soon. I am first generation, of legal immigrants. What is crossing the border now is not the same thing. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:53:43 PM EDT
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i remember 10 15 years ago i was all over the comment sections of the local and nat news
i dont think any news outlet lets people comment openly. too many things seem racist and anti-establishment if you let em |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:02:53 PM EDT
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Fuck CNN.
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:07:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wc22312: i remember 10 15 years ago i was all over the comment sections of the local and nat news i dont think any news outlet lets people comment openly. too many things seem racist and anti-establishment if you let em The comment sections have been gone for a while, but they were kind of entertaining. They were a total shit show though, if I ran a website I wouldn’t want that troll fest on it either lol it was just all people trying to stir the pot and piss each other off |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:10:17 PM EDT
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Those comments would be flagged as misinformation
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:22:06 PM EDT
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They don't care about things outside their echo chamber.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:22:47 PM EDT
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They used to. I trolled them regularly.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:40:29 PM EDT
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So the entire crew working on the bridge were illegals? I thought all they did was pick fruit and hoe weeds.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:41:38 PM EDT
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Deport all of the 50-70 million illegals here.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:42:11 PM EDT
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That’s a rhetorical question. Do you seriously not know why many of the platforms disabled comments after Covid?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:43:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RayFromJersey]
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Both CNN and Yahoo got rid of their comments around the time I joined this forum.
It was obvious why they closed the comments; every top comment contained facts that proved the article to either be completely false or highlighted their bias. edit: I believe they claimed the reason was because they wanted the comments/conversations to happen on their social media pages instead of on the direct websites. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:47:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RealityCheck0311]
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Almost all of big name websites stopped allowing comments under stories.
I used to post on ESPN articles all the time and then one day *poof* it's gone. Most likely it saves them money because they don't need someone moderating. The one that pisses me off the most is IMDB.com They used to allow comments at the bottom of every page and also had a separate forum. There was so much information there. Like sketchy stories about Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, Dan Schneider, and so many other Hollywood types that only started to get into trouble 10+ years later. When all of the actors were pretending to be confused and never being aware of it, I was thinking "GTFO, there was dozens and dozens of threads on the imdb comments sections (like at the bottom of Harvey Weinstein's page) about these guys back in the 2000s, you're IN Hollywood and have never heard of anything. Bullshit." |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:48:16 PM EDT
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Because they were full of people pissed off at whatever lies CNN was pedaling. It destroyed the lefts narrative that majority of people are onboard with leftist BS. They're not.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:48:19 PM EDT
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So CNN is assuming they were here illegally? They've never heard of work Visa's?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:49:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: So the entire crew working on the bridge were illegals? I thought all they did was pick fruit and hoe weeds. If an article doesn't mention immigration status there's usually just one correct answer. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:49:47 PM EDT
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The workers being immigrants and this bridge falling are two seperate things.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilHouse-556: The workers being immigrants and this bridge falling are two seperate things. Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:58:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ckbk]
[#17]
They had an opportunity to write about a Singaporean boat, crewed by Indians, killing Hondurans and El Salvadorans. Completely blew it.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:58:51 PM EDT
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They dont allow comments because narrative. People were too easily allowed to destroy it with facts . Cant have that .
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Originally Posted By MilHouse-556: The workers being immigrants and this bridge falling are two seperate things. Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? Not for the shit wages that third-worlders will work for. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:06:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Originally Posted By MilHouse-556: The workers being immigrants and this bridge falling are two seperate things. Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? The democrats conflating the two and the media parroting it is just another example of democrats using tragedy to further their political goals. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:06:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dsteelman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: Not for the shit wages that third-worlders will work for. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: Originally Posted By Lou_Daks: Originally Posted By MilHouse-556: The workers being immigrants and this bridge falling are two seperate things. Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? Not for the shit wages that third-worlders will work for. A good investigative reporter might want to look into the company they were working for and see how many illegals they had working there. Not that that will ever happen . If , and that’s a big if, we find out those guys were all illegals, the feds will make it a national holiday |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: Not for the shit wages that third-worlders will work for. I'm assuming, due to the nature and location of the work, it was a govt contract. If so, the govt has the ability to require legal residency for all the workers as part of the contract. It seems like a finger is pointing that way. I could be wrong. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:29:24 PM EDT
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CNBC did the same thing. People were complaining about bias in their stories so they just turned it all off.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:31:19 PM EDT
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If the article doesn't allow comments then that's a sign it's propaganda.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:34:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Remember went my local news website had open comments for stories. Didn’t matter what the damn story was about it would fester into a political shit flinging fest in record time.
Was sometimes amazing about how a kitten stuck in a tree suddenly was all the Republicans fault. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:46:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: So the entire crew working on the bridge were illegals? I thought all they did was pick fruit and hoe weeds. Saw a blurb yesterday that it has something to do with the Jones Act. Foreign flagged vessels (like this one) do not have to have the as high a level of safety standards and safety equipment as US flagged vessels, thus they are cheaper to procure and operate. Only rub is if any of the crew are US citizens on a foreign flagged vessel it somehow looses its foreign flagged status and requires the US level of safety equipment and safety standards. But if they are all non-US citizens then they are good to go with lower safety standards and cheaper vessels. Then on top of that we're hearing Pete Buttigeg cut tugboat budgets by like 40% or something along those lines so this didn't have a tug. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:13:09 PM EDT
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Almost all MSM news sites got rid of comments in the run up to 2016 where there was very vocal support of Trump and people were calling BS in most of their articles.
I watched it transpire. NPR even had a wishy washy article about how great a decision it would be. Look at the article publish date. https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2016/08/17/489516952/npr-website-to-get-rid-of-comments |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Both CNN and Yahoo got rid of their comments around the time I joined this forum. It was obvious why they closed the comments; every top comment contained facts that proved the article to either be completely false or highlighted their bias. edit: I believe they claimed the reason was because they wanted the comments/conversations to happen on their social media pages instead of on the direct websites. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:18:47 PM EDT
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Looking at the online comments on news sites is like peering into the campground pit toilet on July 5th.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:32:05 PM EDT
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Very few of the left leaning networks allow it. Most of them probably want you to take it to social media.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BattletweeteR: If the article doesn't allow comments then that's a sign it's propaganda. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:45:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheAvatar9265ft: Looking at the online comments on news sites is like peering into the campground pit toilet on July 5th. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:52:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lou_Daks: Correct, but isn't it odd that ALL of the missing workers are "immigrants"? There're no Americans to do the work? You can pay illegals a hell of a lot less and offer them zero benefits. The Republican party talks a lot of shit about controlling the border but rarely has anything to say about employing illegals. It's not a coincidence that donors to Republican candidates want things exactly this way. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:53:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kraquine]
[#34]
They do.
They just don't open the comment section when it is likely to attract hate speech. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By McGuy: So the entire crew working on the bridge were illegals? I thought all they did was pick fruit and hoe weeds. Just doing the high paying, union jobs us gringos don’t want. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:56:10 PM EDT
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If you don't agree with the MSM, then it's hate speech, right?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RayFromJersey: Both CNN and Yahoo got rid of their comments around the time I joined this forum. It was obvious why they closed the comments; every top comment contained facts that proved the article to either be completely false or highlighted their bias. edit: I believe they claimed the reason was because they wanted the comments/conversations to happen on their social media pages instead of on the direct websites. Easier to ban through the app? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:58:47 PM EDT
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Why does CNN not allow comments?
Because it's so easy to poke holes in, or totally destroy, their commie bullshit. Snowflakes would MELT!!! |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:01:41 PM EDT
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:02:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lion: I am first generation, of legal immigrants. What is crossing the border now is not the same thing. I guess 2nd generation here. Grandparents came here legally from mexico, became US citizens and taught their kids how great the US was, that they didn't owe mexico anything and to speak English. They picked the strawberry fields for work and didn't leach off the government. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:21:35 PM EDT
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your getting your bridges confused
 the work crew on the bridge deck were Hispanic , not the crew on the ship's bridge(who were Indian)....which is what your talking about regarding the Jones Act Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gogetumnow: Saw a blurb yesterday that it has something to do with the Jones Act. Foreign flagged vessels (like this one) do not have to have the as high a level of safety standards and safety equipment as US flagged vessels, thus they are cheaper to procure and operate. Only rub is if any of the crew are US citizens on a foreign flagged vessel it somehow looses its foreign flagged status and requires the US level of safety equipment and safety standards. But if they are all non-US citizens then they are good to go with lower safety standards and cheaper vessels. Then on top of that we're hearing Pete Buttigeg cut tugboat budgets by like 40% or something along those lines so this didn't have a tug. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landpimp: your getting your bridges confused the work crew on the bridge deck were Hispanic , not the crew on the ship's bridge(who were Indian)....which is what your talking about regarding the Jones Act Yeah I guess we're dealing with two bridges here. Both manned by absolutely zero American citizens.  |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:30:44 PM EDT
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Whenever I find that I have a surplus of faith in humanity, I visit the comments section of any news website and am quickly relieved of that burden.
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USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:46:43 PM EDT
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They closed the toll booths to stop traffic, but didn't send a vehicle across to get the workers?
Sad. |
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