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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:58:02 AM EDT
So I finally found a Marlin dark for a reasonable price and I want to throw an optic on it. The gun will be run suppressed and shot from various distances of close range to 300 yards or so. It most likely shot on steel at 100 or less.
I was leaning toward the Holosun AEMS. Suggestions for others to look at? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:59:19 AM EDT
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Eotech
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:19:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Eotech https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161977/1000004987-3144861.jpg I do like the doughnut of death on red dots... |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:28:17 AM EDT
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Small dot of some sort.
What caliber? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:36:13 AM EDT
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TA47 ACOG
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:44:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lilMAC25: Small dot of some sort. What caliber? 45-70 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:48:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DriftPunch]
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The first fork in the road for that decision is the state of your vision.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:49:07 AM EDT
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Either a dot or low magnification prism scope. One of the PA micro prism’s would probably serve well.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:49:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: So I finally found a Marlin dark for a reasonable price and I want to throw an optic on it. The gun will be run suppressed and shot from various distances of close range to 300 yards or so. It most likely shot on steel at 100 or less. I was leaning toward the Holosun AEMS. Suggestions for others to look at? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:50:56 AM EDT
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A PA x3 microprism would be a fun option
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:51:14 AM EDT
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I went with a small Holosun with green. (Red dots don’t work well for me)
I think it’s this one  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:52:09 AM EDT
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I own lots of optics.
I think I would feel dirty putting one on a lever though. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DriftPunch: The first fork in the road for that decision is the state of your vision. I have good vision. I mostly run red dots on other guns. I actually have a Holosun AEMS on an AK and its pretty good. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Undaunted: I own lots of optics. I think I would feel dirty putting one on a lever though. I wouldn't put one on a classic but this gun is made for mods. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:54:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Seven-Shooter]
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I have a first gen 1x PA ACSS Cyclops on mine, pushed well beyond manufacturer specs, but still quite adequate for purpose. But mine is a .357, and im not planning on taking 300 yard shots on game. (But absolutely for shits and giggles)
 I had a non-PA micro prism for about 3 days; the optical quality was horrific and the eyebox was shit, I sent it back. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:55:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:57:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I do like the doughnut of death on red dots... |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:59:34 AM EDT
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I put a dual illumination RMR on my 1894S 44 mag levergun. I love that set up.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:59:36 AM EDT
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I run a Vortex Viper PST 1-6×24 on my Henry X. Works well
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:03:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:03:44 AM EDT
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Williams foolproof peep sight.
I love lever guns and I love distance shooting but lever guns aren’t distance rifles. Optics ruin the lines and no matter how cool your lever gun might be, a scopes lever gun will never compete with a bolt gun for accuracy, or even a good semi-auto AR. And a scoped lever gun won’t handle as well as open or peep sights. Most optics are simply too high and ruin your cheek weld. Show me a red dot that puts a dot ~1” higher than the bore, or less, and I’ll happily put one on a lever gun. Until then, no. YMMV by a great deal. I said what I said. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:05:56 AM EDT
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I had a Aimpoint PRO on my Henry. I ended up putting a TRS25 on there for a temp solution, and it has stayed on. The TRS25 sits very low. I would recommend it, but the newer ones. IMO. are not made as well as the older ones. I'd pick up a used one for around $50 and try that out.
I did use a Holosun 407C for a bit. It was okay but the viewing window was just too small for me to shoot and it needed to go on a pistol anyway. make sure you get a pic rail adapter or a rail adapter to use on your rifle with the small dots like that.  |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:07:30 AM EDT
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Do you even shoot from the hips, bruh?
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:18:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: I do like the doughnut of death on red dots... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Originally Posted By chase45: Eotech https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161977/1000004987-3144861.jpg I do like the doughnut of death on red dots... Swampfox has doughnut of death options. I have a Kingslayer as the offset sight on my Tavor. Most of their current dot offerings now have multi-reticle, which includes the doughnut. Still love my eotech's though. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:36:59 AM EDT
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 Attached File Attached FileI've tried a few setups but lately I've been stuck on a Romeo 5 on the X-357 and a Leup 2-7 on the 30/30. When I get the 45-70 I want it'll get a 1-6 PST II or similar. You've got a pretty good choice for a dot setup in mind though. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:39:59 AM EDT
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LPVO....
Why would you consider a red dot for a 45-70? It is not a pistol caliber carbine, it is a hunting cartridge. That's like putting a red dot on a 30-06. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:43:00 AM EDT
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The Spanish Inquisition will be around shortly to discuss the appalling heresy in this thread.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:43:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By urbanredneck: LPVO.... Why would you consider a red dot for a 45-70? It is not a pistol caliber carbine, it is a hunting cartridge. That's like putting a red dot on a 30-06. I am mainly shooting it up close. I want fast target acquisition. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:43:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: The Spanish Inquisition will be around shortly to discuss the appalling heresy in this thread. Standing by for the fudds. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:45:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AL25]
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RMR. Many animals and men has been put down with an open sights on a lever gun. Red dots are fastest to get on target and just as accurate.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:45:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Osprey61: The Spanish Inquisition will be around shortly to discuss the appalling heresy in this thread.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:54:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Colt1860]
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I got the gun this weekend. I thought maybe CompM5 but this works too even though it's sort of too big. I sure do like the big tube on the CompM4 though.
 edit - get the mount they call 'LRP' which works fine without the spacer installed, for mounting the CompM4 low on guns where you're not trying to co-witness with AR sights |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:59:38 AM EDT
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For the Henry X, I've tried a few, including EoTech and Primary Arms prism, Romeo 5, other red dots and stuck with a Holosun 507C X2. Small and low profile, just seems right.
I may switch it to a LPVO, but not in a hurry. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:00:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Undaunted: I own lots of optics. I think I would feel dirty putting one on a lever though. This. Somehtings just don't go together, like ketchup on a hotdog. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:04:00 PM EDT
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Fast target acquisition on a thumper of a hunting rifle is a specific type of capable, lightweight joy-bringer.
Heres some nice both-eyes-open optics on my .308 Mini-G Garand. The Burris Scout optic did the job, but it handles so well without an optic that I decided to put an H1 on there. It's magic.   |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:09:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Standing by for the fudds. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Originally Posted By Osprey61: The Spanish Inquisition will be around shortly to discuss the appalling heresy in this thread. Standing by for the fudds. There's nothing wrong with optics on levers. I had a 1.5-5x20 on a win 94 ae 25 years ago. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:11:44 PM EDT
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I run a Leupold VX3 HD 1.5-5 on my Henry X. It’s used primarily for hunting and target shooting.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:18:41 PM EDT
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My only hangup with a lvpo is quick target acquisition for up close shots, especially if I take it hog hunting.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: My only hangup with a lvpo is quick target acquisition for up close shots, especially if I take it hog hunting. If the lion's share of shooting is sub 200 yards, a fixed 3 or 4 gets it done. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:24:11 PM EDT
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Micro Prism might be nice or maybe an LPVO
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:26:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: My only hangup with a lvpo is quick target acquisition for up close shots, especially if I take it hog hunting. I think the dot will be a better approach. Depending on how far forward you plan to mount it you could definitely consider a magnifier to use for hunt where the expectation is a further shot. If I'm walking, I prefer the X .357 with dot to the 30/30 with scope at 2x personally. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:34:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lil_Sig]
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Originally Posted By redfish86: I went with a small Holosun with green. (Red dots don’t work well for me) I think it’s this one https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/136311/0779BC21-B9E4-46A0-8E8A-3863E5BF203A_png-3206878.JPG Nice compact, functional, reliable, with great features. 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jetpig]
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Pistol red dot works great. 1-3 MOA. No bigger
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:46:51 PM EDT
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I have a PA 1-4x on my 45-70. I have rung steel at 500 yards, and shot a deer at 50 yards with it.
I’d go LPVO |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:57:54 PM EDT
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A Steiner P4xi would be a good LPVO. Maybe even a PA 1-6 Nova. Both bright dots and quick on 1x, then have some mag if you have time to dial.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:02:30 PM EDT
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I’d get an eotech. Figure out what distance the bottom hash on the circle is.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI love this setup and have it on two lever guns. It's great on the Marlins/Henry's but it really shines on a top-eject 1886. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:20:20 PM EDT
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so, OP is going to be staying with the exact same load, constantly?
45-70 can have some very nasty curves, at different ranges- 325 VTX from Hornady shows a +5.5" RISE at 100, dead 0 at 200, and - 23inches at 300 yds. 405 gr gets even moar entertaining... something to consider that everyone seems to be overlooking... |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:33:32 PM EDT
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PA prism
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:50:31 PM EDT
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Scout scope. Dinosaurs and Nazis.
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