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Did they list a Constitutional Solution against a Tyrannical Government??

No, now that you mention it I don’t think tyranny crossed their mind much.  I think for the most part they had a go along to get along approach to life.  

Guns, but they failed to foresee:

A) the lack of willingness of future generations to use them
B) the ridiculously slow erosion of rights that would go almost unnoticed until it was too late
C) the rapid advancement of the technology used to create weaponry which would be made available only to tyrants
D) the right to vote given to women and idiots.

If women could not vote we wouldn't be in the shape we are.

The entire Constitution.

If they had listed one, the government would have moved to specifically block it.

Basically, when things get bad enough the states can take their ball and leave the game and the fedgov can just die a horrible death of starvation (lack of money or support) and kick rocks. There doesn't have to be a written route for this. It just happens when people have had enough.

They would just revolving door out with their security clearances and go to work on the private sector side on government contracts.

Jefferson and other Anti-Federalists didn't want a Standing Army, but lost that argument

The whole constitution and BOR were written in and effort to give the people power over government. The Declaration of Independence tells you how they dealt with tyranny and has much wisdom on the subject..

In the end it's up to the people to determine how things turn out.

The "Declaration of Independence" shows one how the founding fathers dealt with tyranny and I would think it to be a very good guide on the subject.

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Doubt that.  Plenty of progressive men vote to “fix” what isn’t broken.

Great OP question.  We need one of the Hillsdale scholars to answer it.

They should have known SOCIALISM was coming but maybe they didn't foresee it.

Maybe there should have been the dealth penalty or prison terms for VIOLATING INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS.

What he said, The constitution was written to protect us from our government

They gave us self-determination.
What we do with it is up to us.

The history of the abuses of the crown and parliament at that time goes for a very long time and when I first started learning it I was shocked at how much crap the put up with and how many times they tried to get the parliament and than the crown to just ... follow their own rules and traditions and stop abusing them (their colonists).

The meme/joke about how we fought a war over taxation is so wrong that it's not even funny.

A really good video on the things they really were fighting for:


It wasn't so much the tax itself, it was how the taxes would change their way of life.

It was basically the elite-driven "great reset" of their time.

The men voted for the women to get the vote, so if you really believe that, there's some soul-searching that needs to be done.

Edited to show which poster I was replying to.

They also had the ability to exclude hostile elements froms their lives/communities/towns/country.

Freedom of association is a safe guard against tyranny, why do you think they went after it.

According to a huge number of legislators and judiciary from the east and west coasts our founding fathers risked their lives and futures to fight a war in order to enshrine the right to go hunting... which was never in question at any time. But that's what happened ya' know.

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Don't forget 1) weaponization of government agencies against the people (ATF, DOJ, IRS, etc...),  and 2) a sub-category of that, lawfare (e.g. the state AWBs currently in vogue and the in-the-works Glock suits).

There are more to add to the list, but these are big weapons being used today.

Ummmm 2A

The following are a list of the reasons the war was fought.



"He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends."

I don’t know. I was told they just really liked hunting deer and escaped slaves.

Limited suffrage. The rabble was never supposed to be able to vote becuase they will always make poor choices and vote themselves the treasury and be a pox on productive people.

The problem is not the Constitution, but the voters. The voters are not doing their job, they elect unqualified people.

I don't think term limits were supposed to be a thing because didn't the Founders envision a part-time federal gubmint that was filled with unpaid elected representatives who still needed to have day jobs once the governing was done during a certain time period?

Full-time politicians paid like a regular job is one of the things that started the downfall of the country.

That is because the average person is an idiot, and the founders seem to have recognized this, which is why they didn’t believe in universal suffrage and didn’t enumerate a right to vote in the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights.

Nevermind

This is also a major factor.

Who voted for them to have the right?

The documents themselves don't do anything. They're just paper if nobody gives a shit.

Nothing "progressive" about so-called "progressives". Just tyrannical fucks by a pleasant sounding name.

Kind of right, the Bill of Rights is important. That is one of the reasons why there is the electoral college.

To quote the El Paso police.....whatever his rank was....in No Country for Old Men "it's the dismal tide." Ain't any one particular thing, although some carry more weight than others. It's the conglomeration of all sorts of fucked up things that got us where we are today. We're all guilty to some degree, be it our actions or inactions.

Yep.  They cannot do anything if what they wrote isn't applied.

This x1000

I’ve spoken and heard many a voter that thinks the Second Amendment is about hunting. And the majority of Congress, both Republicans and Democrats, think the same thing. Including both Presidential nominees. Even a lot of members of this site support it by voting for Rinos. Idiots!