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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:35:27 PM EDT
Vast swaths of the United States are at risk of running short of power as electricity-hungry data centers and clean-technology factories proliferate around the country, leaving utilities and regulators grasping for credible plans to expand the nation's creaking power grid. In Georgia, demand for industrial power is surging to record highs, with the projection of new electricity use for the next decade now 17 times what it was only recently. Arizona Public Service, the largest utility in that state, is also struggling to keep up, projecting it will be out of transmission capacity before the end of the decade absent major upgrades. Northern Virginia needs the equivalent of several large nuclear power plants to serve all the new data centers planned and under construction. Texas, where electricity shortages are already routine on hot summer days, faces the same dilemma. The soaring demand is touching off a scramble to try to squeeze more juice out of an aging power grid while pushing commercial customers to go to extraordinary lengths to lock down energy sources, such as building their own power plants. "When you look at the numbers, it is staggering," said Jason Shaw, chairman of the Georgia Public Service Commission, which regulates electricity. "It makes you scratch your head and wonder how we ended up in this situation. How were the projections that far off? This has created a challenge like we have never seen before." View Quote |
I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their shitpoast. - sierra-def
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Get to building nuke plants.
No more power crisis. |
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"Everything woke turns to shit" - Donald J. Trump
FUCK JOE BIDEN! |
starvation. soon.
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"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." - Edmund Burke.
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We should mandate more electric cars.
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Manufactured crisis. Seen this show before.
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"According to Argonne National Laboratory, it takes 100 pounds of battery in an EV to go a distance achieved by only one pound of gasoline in an ICE vehicle"
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Valentino Rossi, the only 46 that matters.
Once you compromise your thoughts, you are a candidate for mediocrity. |
It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
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Another 50 million illegals will surely reduce the demand for electricity. If we could just get rid of all the coal and NG power plants and add more windmills and solar panels, things would be great. More electric vehicles will help, too.
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If the truth makes you uncomfortable, don't blame the truth. Blame the lie that made you comfortable. -James Ng Uni
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Heavily tax people with solar, particularly offgrid capable households. They are not contributing to the grid that the poors need.
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Let me show you my gadolinium-loaded liquid scintillator
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Originally Posted By Bitmap: Another 50 million illegals will surely reduce the demand for electricity. If we could just get rid of all the coal and NG power plants and add more windmills and solar panels, things would be great. More electric vehicles will help, too. View Quote Only electric: Stoves Ovens Water heaters No natural gas appliances at all!!! That will save us ALL!!! (The ones that survive the homolodor) |
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Valentino Rossi, the only 46 that matters.
Once you compromise your thoughts, you are a candidate for mediocrity. |
Better shut down a few more coal plants and ban more gas appliances.
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"I keep hearing 'must have a dialogue,' but I keep being told to shut up when I speak." -Sand_Pirate
“I’m starting to think the Internet was a terrible mistake.” -Subnet |
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.. |
Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: Heavily tax people with solar, particularly offgrid capable households. They are not contributing to the grid that the poors need. View Quote Huh, how are they not contributing? The electricity they produce goes out, unless they are entirely off grid and are feeding a battery bank for their own house. |
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Originally Posted By Bitmap: Another 50 million illegals will surely reduce the demand for electricity. If we could just get rid of all the coal and NG power plants and add more windmills and solar panels, things would be great. More electric vehicles will help, too. View Quote Hey "insert illegal name here"....either you can pedal your ass off for 50 KW in power output a day....or we can put your ass on a trebuchet and send you right back where you came from..... |
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RIP CeCe and FCSD you will be missed
Mike_314..If there was communism in the desert, there would soon be a shortage of sand. 87% shit posting - 13% I am caught in a rule change RSM 20/21 RSL 4522: we will shit on your pillow.. (3613 note) |
More AI data centers and EVs will consume power but us peons will have to cut back on our air conditioning. Priorities, you know.
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"... the character of a man is made in the small moments and manifested in the great ones." -- Para
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"It makes you scratch your head and wonder how we ended up in this situation"
A real head scratcher. |
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Valentino Rossi, the only 46 that matters.
Once you compromise your thoughts, you are a candidate for mediocrity. |
Originally Posted By tc556guy: Huh, how are they not contributing? The electricity they produce goes out, unless they are entirely off grid and are feeding a battery bank for their own house. View Quote If you don't provide for the underserved first, you are an evil racist and basically a slave-raping cotton farmer. |
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Valentino Rossi, the only 46 that matters.
Once you compromise your thoughts, you are a candidate for mediocrity. |
No one, NO ONE could have predicted this!
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Oh, you'll be able to have power. And food. And water. And shelter.
Just turn in all of your guns first. The government will care for you. |
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I don’t like making plans for the day. Because then the word "premeditated" gets thrown around in the courtroom.
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Monday
Two weeks 96 hours |
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'Power' is nothing more than the answer to a math equation. Do better...
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The threat is real...
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/Check-your-electric-bill/17-706995/
Not a dupe, just ways the power company is changing billing practices to cover expenses for new infrastructure. |
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Heller II - Challenging DC's bans on semi-automatic rifles, large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, and its onerous and expensive handgun registration process. http://www.HellerFoundation.org/
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I'm a commercial electrician in Loudoun County, and the vast majority
of our work for the past ten years has been building data centers. We're at the point where we're commissioning equipment off of generators because the utility companies can't keep up with the demand for substations, even if they could generate and transmit power to those substations. I've read articles about small, on-site nuke plants. @JustinU235 is more knowledgeable about actual power generation. |
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Alea iacta est
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It makes you scratch your head and wonder how we ended up in this situation. View Quote This might be the single dumbest sentence in the last decade. |
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Posterity! You will never know, how much it cost the present Generation, to preserve your Freedom! I hope you will make a good Use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven, that I ever took half the Pains to preserve it.---John Adams
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They want blood....
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https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1783503091914141942
Austen Allred @Austen It’s time to repost one of my favorite tweets ever Also a short video at link of chick talking about libtard global warming shit. |
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Yeah, and how many reliable coal fired power plants did these evil bastards shut down over the last 15 years?
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It is said that Democracy is a form of government where the people get what they vote for. And sometimes they get it good and hard.
A lot of people approach risk as if it's the enemy when it's really fortune's accomplice. |
You must hate a Democrat as you would the Devil.
Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. NorCal_LEO-assigned callsign Bulkhead |
Originally Posted By Ambridge77: I'm a commercial electrician in Loudoun County, and the vast majority of our work for the past ten years has been building data centers. We're at the point where we're commissioning equipment off of generators because the utility companies can't keep up with the demand for substations, even if they could generate and transmit power to those substations. I've read articles about small, on-site nuke plants. @JustinU235 is more knowledgeable about actual power generation. View Quote We can't keep up. We know some DC people are going to try SMRs. We also know others will hitch to nukes. I can't say what meta is going to do but we are also running short on power. ETA "can't say" meaning I don't know. TVA is trying to find my site 20 more MWs. |
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Become prompt critical.
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Snap, bang or fizz I like all 3
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Originally Posted By jwliv180: And had we started building next gen reactors in 2002, we'd have them now. If you never start you never get to the point you want to be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jwliv180: Originally Posted By BFskinner: Power solution for 2044, not 2024. And had we started building next gen reactors in 2002, we'd have them now. If you never start you never get to the point you want to be. But we didn't and the problem is now. |
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It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.
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Originally Posted By Bitmap: Another 50 million illegals will surely reduce the demand for electricity. If we could just get rid of all the coal and NG power plants and add more windmills and solar panels, things would be great. More electric vehicles will help, too. View Quote Attached File |
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Get WOKE, go BROKE!
Never let the shit filter get full. |
They’ve all but shut down the coal mines and several power plants here. The closest coal plant attempted to “transition” from coal. I was told the governor informed them that they will not be doing such things.
I guess being a Democrat isn’t powerful enough to ignore every real word consequence. |
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It's a shame that this country was not blessed with an abundance of fossil fuels and the ability to construct safe nuclear plants.
I guess we'll have to ask Iran, Russia and Venezuela to help us out. |
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"An age of glory passed like a lightning flash. The mandate of heaven passed from you but you didn't see. Times change and power passes. It is the pity of the world."
Song dynasty poet |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: Huh, how are they not contributing? The electricity they produce goes out, unless they are entirely off grid and are feeding a battery bank for their own house. View Quote They are using the same insufficient wires..their bills are next to zero. They need to contribute. |
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Let me show you my gadolinium-loaded liquid scintillator
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Originally Posted By _DR: Manufactured crisis. Seen this show before. View Quote https://collections.dartmouth.edu/content/deliver/inline/meadows/pdf/meadows_ltg-001.pdf |
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Even if we had it we don’t have the infrastructure to distribute it
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Gods on the side with the best artillery
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You will ride ze bike and eat ze bugs!
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I don’t know that modern corporate America can solve this crisis. Too focused on short-term quarterly profits which an expensive power plant is not going to generate. Been a more profitable enterprise to buy and consolidate utilities, then sell off/scrap “excess” generation and resell the land for other residential/commercial development.
Solar and wind have grown so much pretty much just to suck up federal subsidy dollars but are otherwise not a real scalable solution to the problem. Building nuclear power plants for projected demand growth twenty years ago would have been the right move. When it takes a veritable Manhattan Project effort to build new generation I don’t know what the solution is. Ground-breaking alternatives like space-based solar put together by an insane genius like Elon Musk? Public (government) investment to build the plants but then private entities to manage them? I don’t think the current path we’re on has any workable solutions other than solar/wind + hugely expensive battery banks. |
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People don't like it, but nationalizing power generation and building nukes at taxpayer expense is probably the best option. Making something like electricity a for profit business is probably a mistake.
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Become prompt critical.
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Originally Posted By _DR: Manufactured crisis. Seen this show before. View Quote The government has spent the last 30 years forcing power companies to close coal and natural gas power plants. And at the same time trying to force all electric houses and cars. Who could have predicted this ? |
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RIP Jeff Reed. Tennessee Squire, Ga. Carry member, NRA,Non-puking 72 ounce drinker 2 of 6 Norcal call sign, Forgotten.
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