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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:09:43 PM EDT
 Not everyone was as excited by such an unapologetically queer Black Doctor Who though. A vocal contingent of keyboard warriors took to social media to claim the show had gone too ‘woke’. From arguing that the show has been ‘torn apart by woke ideologues’ to creating their own social media trend #RIPDoctorWho, you don’t need to go far to find the litany of tired complaints. But the bigoted straight white men who have spiralled into a meltdown clearly haven’t been paying attention to the reboot’s rich and ever-evolving history of multiculturalism and LGBTQ+ inclusion. When Queer As Folk creator, Russell T Davies, brought Doctor Who back in 2005 it was clear from the get-go that this is a show for all the outcasts in society. The 15th Doctor has already been confirmed as unapologetically queer, with a nod to Ncuti’s Rwandan heritage in his character’s screwdriver through a proverb inscribed in Gallifreyan. https://web.archive.org/web/20240511132510/https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/11/sorry-straight-white-men-doctor-never-made-20792066/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:12:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:13:20 PM EDT
[#2]
I stopped watching after Matt Smith left.
It was fun while it lasted. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:13:47 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title Baker was my first Doctor. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:15:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Who?
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:15:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes. Dr Who, which is a BRITISH TV show that started in, what, the 1960s, when GREAT BRITAIN was practically ENTIRELY white...
... was never for white people. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:16:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title too true. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:16:45 PM EDT
[#7]
"This show is not for you!"
"Why isn't anyone watching our show!?" Delusional assholes. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:17:12 PM EDT
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I have no idea what actors I know as Dr Who. I watched old reruns years ago.
To bad everything had to be gay garbage now. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:22:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Meh, I only watched when the sidekick was a hot chick.
Sarah Jane - maximum cute Leela - hard as possible while still hot |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:24:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kzin: Meh, I only watched when the sidekick was a hot chick. Sarah Jane - maximum cute Leela - hard as possible while still hot Yeah, but watch that knife she carries. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:27:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q: Yes. Dr Who, which is a BRITISH TV show that started in, what, the 1960s, when GREAT BRITAIN was practically ENTIRELY white... ... was never for white people. Specifically white men. The show has had two female "Doctors" now that have said things like the women Doctors were better than the male ones or that the male ones weren't the main doctors. Also using terms like "male presenting" or "female presenting" when referring to doctors. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:29:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title True, though I thought Chris Eccleston was very good. ironically, I saw Baker before Pertwee.. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:30:28 PM EDT
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I always thought it was for kids.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:30:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q: Yes. Dr Who, which is a BRITISH TV show that started in, what, the 1960s, when GREAT BRITAIN was practically ENTIRELY white... ... was never for white people. That's not what the article said. It said that the "Reboot"/Continuation, which started in 2005, was deliberately slanted as Queer/Whatever, by Davies (which, given his comments and body of work, is probably correct). |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:32:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: theskuh]
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:35:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Makarov]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Baker was my first Doctor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Originally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title Baker was my first Doctor. Tom Baker was the BEST Doctor. I still use one of his idioms, when appropriate, in business meetings with suppliers and subordinates. “A little patience goes a long way, but too much patience goes nowhere.” |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:35:31 PM EDT
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Odd, they never mentioned that in the show/movie trailers.
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USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:38:17 PM EDT
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I will honor their wish and keep not watching it. It's a shame, it used to be a fun show to watch.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:44:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matthew_Q: Yes. Dr Who, which is a BRITISH TV show that started in, what, the 1960s, when GREAT BRITAIN was practically ENTIRELY white... ... was never for white people. This. They can go fuck themselves. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:45:27 PM EDT
[#20]
I never thought I'd root for the Daleks.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:46:10 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Jon pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title This right here. The reboot has been mostly garbage. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:46:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Never watched
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:48:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title This!! |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Yeah, but watch that knife she carries. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Originally Posted By kzin: Meh, I only watched when the sidekick was a hot chick. Sarah Jane - maximum cute Leela - hard as possible while still hot Yeah, but watch that knife she carries. Fuck the knife watch out for those Janus thorns |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:50:44 PM EDT
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Matt Smith + Karen Gillan was the last season I really enjoyed.
Some of the Peter Capaldi episodes were good too. Jodie Whittaker, was so terrible and woke that I gave up on the series completely after 2 episodes. So bad that I never even though about the series after. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:51:24 PM EDT
[#26]
I tried to watch a few weeks ago. They're correct.
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USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:51:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Scott-S6]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title John Hurt, Peter Cushing, Richard E Grant, Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy also deserve mentions. But Tom Baker was the definitive Doctor. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:52:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kzin]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: Yeah, but watch that knife she carries. -anything whatsoever happens- Leela, "Kill?" Dr "No, put the knife away." |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:11:46 PM EDT
[#29]
I enjoyed up to Capaldi. Had to warmup to him a bit but most of that was because the writing was mostly crap his first season.
The thing about the writers with women and flamboyantly gay doctors is that they have to make everything around them effeminate and gay. They can't just be a woman, everything has to get infected. And that it was killed it for me. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:26:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Nerd thread
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:54:39 PM EDT
[#31]
I've been watching a lot of Tom Baker Who on BBC America, on Prime.
It has a few commercials, but not too bad. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cpt_Kirks: I've been watching a lot of Tom Baker Who on BBC America, on Prime. It has a few commercials, but not too bad. TUBI has a lot of the old doctors.... |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:58:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Lol. Sure thing buddy.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: True, though I thought Chris Eccleston was very good. ironically, I saw Baker before Pertwee.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title True, though I thought Chris Eccleston was very good. ironically, I saw Baker before Pertwee.. Agreed on all counts |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title Same here, and add Peter Davidson. Davidson was also in the original "All Creatures Great And Small" and "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy".. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:30:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Maybe we'll have a Monte Python re-boot with an all POC, gay and transgender cast.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CZ75_9MM: I always thought it was for kids. It was for kids of all ages until Dr Who went woke. I stop watch when they had a woman Doctor Who. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:40:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/133188/42537F3C-81AE-4740-9568-CFD6A01445ED_jpe-3213649.JPG let me fix this thread One of the best companions. And someone said this was just a kids show. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:21:37 PM EDT
[#39]
Tom Baker - I tried to watch it after he left, but it never gelled with me. He was the only Doctor as far as I am concerned.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:25:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Apparently when I was a toddler it used to be my favorite show, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE! I liked a few of the seasons around the Tennant's years, and just kind of lost interest at some point?
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Delbaeth: I enjoyed up to Capaldi. Had to warmup to him a bit but most of that was because the writing was mostly crap his first season. The thing about the writers with women and flamboyantly gay doctors is that they have to make everything around them effeminate and gay. They can't just be a woman, everything has to get infected. And that it was killed it for me. Capalidi is when I stopped watching it just because it wasn't entertaining to me. I don't recall if I got thru the entire first season. The two shows on BBC that I liked was Dr Who and Top Gear... At least Grand Tour is still a thing. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:15:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cyclone]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fosters: Bill pertwee and Tom baker were the only doctors worthy of the title I'd add Peter Davidson as well.........anything after him went downhill, although I thought Christopher Eccleston did a good job |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:33:13 AM EDT
[#43]
i think Eccleston wasn't really what they wanted, but was palatable enough to get previous fans back into watching. Once they got rid of him, they could slowly push towards the ultimate goal, which was full aggressive woke.
In the day, the writing wasn't so bad, but the budget was non-existant. The green painted bubble wrap as an alien diseased arm was a low point, but the writing, acting, and standard definition tv allowed that to work. The horrible writing in the reboot, which obviously got dramatically worse over time, just can't be overcome. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:39:56 AM EDT
[#44]
Can they come up with something for a woke crowd and leave established stuff alone?
I have never seen anything woke that did not die a quick death |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:46:41 AM EDT
[#45]
I enjoyed the show as a kid. Tom Baker is my Doctor Who. Genesis of the Daleks. Good TV back then when TVs were built inside furniture.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:47:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Ronin72]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5: That's not what the article said. It said that the "Reboot"/Continuation, which started in 2005, was deliberately slanted as Queer/Whatever, by Davies (which, given his comments and body of work, is probably correct). Well, the doctor did steal a white blonde from her black boyfriend (oh the stereotypes), who was then relegated to the position of "tin dog," by his own admission. I don't believe your presumption is correct. That might have changed after a few seasons, but the initial reboot...not so much. Oh and the first episode I saw was the Brain of Morbius, when I was 7. Tom Baker is the best Who! |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:53:08 AM EDT
[#47]
Are you with me, Doctor Who?
Are you really just a shadow Of the man that I once knew? She is lovely, yes, she's sly And you're an ordinary guy Have they finally got to you? Can you hear me, Doctor? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:57:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Tom Baker will always be my Dr. Who
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:05:32 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FJB247: Matt Smith + Karen Gillan was the last season I really enjoyed. Some of the Peter Capaldi episodes were good too. Jodie Whittaker, was so terrible and woke that I gave up on the series completely after 2 episodes. So bad that I never even though about the series after. Same |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:08:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By not_sure: Capalidi is when I stopped watching it just because it wasn't entertaining to me. I don't recall if I got thru the entire first season. The two shows on BBC that I liked was Dr Who and Top Gear... At least Grand Tour is still a thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By Delbaeth: I enjoyed up to Capaldi. Had to warmup to him a bit but most of that was because the writing was mostly crap his first season. The thing about the writers with women and flamboyantly gay doctors is that they have to make everything around them effeminate and gay. They can't just be a woman, everything has to get infected. And that it was killed it for me. Capalidi is when I stopped watching it just because it wasn't entertaining to me. I don't recall if I got thru the entire first season. The two shows on BBC that I liked was Dr Who and Top Gear... At least Grand Tour is still a thing. I thought Grand Tour was over and done with now. |
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