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Posted: 3/27/2024 6:41:39 PM EDT
https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american
TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:44:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chmodx] [#1]
That poor decreased horse.  One day he'll increase.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:45:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ARowner] [#2]
I would be more surprised if they didn’t supply Chinese military or police. They’re not going to make this product and choose not to adopt it for their selves.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:46:12 PM EDT
[#3]
This thread will be fun.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:48:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Is buying Holosun funding the PRC more or less than my cellphone, TV or laptop?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:48:58 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By chmodx:
That pool decleased horse.  One day he'll inclease.
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Recently went on Twitter which made me lose enough brain cells to misspell deceased.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:50:14 PM EDT
[#6]
My Chinese computer cost more than my Chinese optic.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:50:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolomite] [#7]
but wake on shake nomba won


(if somebody could post the shia le'boof video I'd really appreciate it)
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:50:47 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:
Is buying Holosun funding the PRC more or less than my cellphone, TV or laptop?
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Justification. The wild card that justifies anything and everything.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:51:26 PM EDT
[#9]
Yawn
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:51:37 PM EDT
[#10]
I buy trijicon, Elcan, and aimpoint. Fuck chinasun.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:51:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea] [#11]


Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:52:44 PM EDT
[#12]
What isn't made in China!

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:54:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z] [#13]
Breaking! NGO blogging community calls for increased scrutiny of american gun owners after China is discovered to have ties to China.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:54:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Every business with a hq in China is an arm of the ccp
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:54:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:55:50 PM EDT
[#16]
They are communists. There isn't a company in China of any size that doesn't.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:56:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By drw1006:
What isn't made in China!

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virtue signaling and overpriced optics.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:57:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By StainlessEagle:
https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american
TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA.
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:58:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By N1150x:
Every business with a hq in China is an arm of the ccp
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Truth. Most if not all Chinese companies are owned by the CCP or have shares owned by the CCP.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:58:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gtsteve03:
Is buying Holosun funding the PRC more or less than my cellphone, TV or laptop?
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Maybe try buying stuff not made in China instead of being an apologist for normalizing  funding the enemy? Yes there are places that make electronics outside of China.  My cellphone tv and laptop are made in either Japan or South Korea, as are most of my other electronics.

You can avoid China on probably 90% of purchases if you do a teensy little bit of web searching first.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:01:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mooreshawnm:
They are communists. There isn't a company in China of any size that doesn't.
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I recently bought a fanny pack off AliExpress. The Chinese are $1.60 closer to invading Taiwan and I'm one step closer to dying of cancer caused by whatever chemicals they used in commie factories to make fanny packs.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:03:15 PM EDT
[#22]
So holosun is/will be combat proven then?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:03:47 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:03:49 PM EDT
[#24]
So you're saying Holosun is mil-spec.  Got it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:03:54 PM EDT
[#25]
So does our President.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:04:24 PM EDT
[#26]
Don't be naive. It is a Chinese company. You should assume it has ties to the Military and/or CCP. You will be right far more often than wrong.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:04:47 PM EDT
[#27]
I support accelerationism. Getting the CCP to kicking it off faster and sooner is based. Thank you OP, you affirm my decision to continue to equip myself with more optics at reasonable prices with above average performance.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:05:08 PM EDT
[#28]
Is this really a fucking surprise to ANYONE?

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:06:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass:


Maybe try buying stuff not made in China instead of being an apologist for normalizing  funding the enemy? Yes there are places that make electronics outside of China.  My cellphone tv and laptop are made in either Japan or South Korea, as are most of my other electronics.

You can avoid China on probably 90% of purchases if you do a teensy little bit of web searching first.
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Makes sense for reflex optics to shop for made in the USA. Honestly my Holosun 509T is not as good as a trijicon, the "shake awake" feature died from normal use and has to be turned to constant on.

But this VermillionGlowie group ran another similar article about thermals, where they advocated an outright ban on imported thermals. Of course the US vendors can also decide to stop selling to civilians when their govt contracts say so.

Seems like some agency who decided to blow part of their "Countering China" funding on fucking with gun owners
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:17:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RustedAce:
Trijicon loves Jesus.

Thats whats really important.

Buy Trijicon.
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I'm disappointed no one has posted Ping Ping yet. She has never voted for a dem in her life.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:19:04 PM EDT
[#31]
In before the usual mental gymnastics of “I bet urrrr phone iz frum china!1! Gatcha!!!”
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:19:28 PM EDT
[#32]
So? I ain't ditching my 507c's, OP.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:20:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Originally Posted By StainlessEagle:
https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american
TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA.
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So what?

The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:25:03 PM EDT
[#34]
If its good enough for the PLA its good enough for me.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:27:03 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By chmodx:
That poor decreased horse.  One day he'll increase.
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They could let it sit in the dryer longer and it'll re-crease.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:27:19 PM EDT
[#36]
Yea it’s totally my buying a holosun that’s the problem and not the entire fucking f35 tdp they stole that’ll shift the balance in a war.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:28:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Every business in China has ties to the Chinese military...especially ones that make military equipment...
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:31:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Trijicon is starting to look more and more like Blackberry... they've had how much of the market share for how long? And what have they done with it?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:31:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:



So what?

The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too.
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The chinese do use the best bipods
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:33:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 77Bronc] [#40]
How anyone buys that Holosun shit and puts it on a firearm is beyond me...I just dont get it.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:33:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:34:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 77Bronc:
How anyone buys that Holosun shit and puts it on a firearm is beyond me...I just dont get it.

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Some people are more concerned about shooting a gun than they are about virtue signaling with them.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:36:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Who supports the American gun owner more? China or Michigan?

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:37:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 797hp:
Is this really a fucking surprise to ANYONE?

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The OP, apparently.
Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
In before the usual mental gymnastics of “I bet urrrr phone iz frum china!1! Gatcha!!!”
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Too late, there's a guy a few posts up claiming his TV and such are Japanese. But what he doesn't realize is most of the components probably still come from china.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:37:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:



So what?

The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too.
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Serious question, who makes their tritium?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:38:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: feetpiece] [#46]
Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass:

...normalizing  funding the enemy...
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At least they aren't sending shit to Ukraine

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:38:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:38:39 PM EDT
[#48]
Same people crying about Holosun were shooting the fuck out of cheap Norinco ammo years ago.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:39:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:40:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:



So what?

The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too.
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By StainlessEagle:
https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american
TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA.



So what?

The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too.

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