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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:08:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: subjectofcalifornia]
I was looking at a house. It's in Riverside County.
I was going to sell my house on Orange County and move 20 miles into " The Inland Empire" My house in OC is 2,290 sq ft and the new house would be 2,900sq ft but close to a half a mil cheaper to buy We have a special property tax on certain communities and this house has it . .$4,500 extra tax but I would be paying cash so it's not a deal ending tax What is ending this deal? My $2,409 home insurance? Well ... Since I'm at the bottom of a short mountain ..... $12,000,00 for property INSURANCE And the HOA fee if $169. I don't think that I'll buy this house. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:28:09 AM EDT
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 @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:29:01 AM EDT
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Family.
My Wife is a quadriplegic and family helps us. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:31:52 AM EDT
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Sorry to hear about your wife OP, God bless you and I hope it all works out for you.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:35:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:36:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:38:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Aspida1776]
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Good reason to stay. Guy from so cal has been in my building all week. The cicadas are really ripping here now. He's been like a 3 year old. Everything is so green! They are so loud! Everyone is so nice!
Yeah, man. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:39:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:52:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax Isn’t CA property tax typically about 1% ? That’s what IN is. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax OP here. I made money when my wife was still in good health. I'm 58 and haven't made shit since the start of Covid. My wife hasn't been able to work in twenty years. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:54:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Duke117]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? I wish my property tax was only $12k 
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:54:57 AM EDT
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There was a recent study that said that the IE/Riverside had the highest debt/income ratio of all metro areas, beating out LA and Orange County.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:05:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duke117: I wish my property tax was only $12k How can you ever retire in your 40s paying that kinda cash? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:10:02 AM EDT
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Sounds like Temecula or Murrietta? 1.7% property tax?
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:11:03 AM EDT
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Los Angeles property tax for 1700 square feet was about 8k.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:14:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duke117: I wish my property tax was only $12k |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:20:42 AM EDT
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What's the price of the new house? Saying how much the property taxes are without stating the sales price is almost meaningless.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:23:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By subjectofcalifornia: I was looking at a house. It's in Riverside County. I was going to sell my house on Orange County and move 20 miles into " The Inland Empire" My house in OC is 2,290 sq ft and the new house would be 2,900sq ft but close to a half a mil cheaper to buy We have a special property tax on certain communities and this house has it . .$4,500 extra tax but I would be paying cash so it's not a deal ending tax What is ending this deal? My $2,409 home insurance? Well ... Since I'm at the bottom of a short mountain ..... $12,000,00 for property tax! And the HOA fee if $169. I don't think that I'll buy this house. My new house is SLIIIIIGHTLY smaller than that (like 15 sqft) and our property taxes are pretty high for the area. I think we'll pay $6k this year. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:24:36 AM EDT
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It's 1% property tax on a $900,000 + additional $4,500
And $12,000 for hi risk homeowners insurance. Plus the HOA fees. My current property tax is $5500 and insurance is $2,400 We also have income tax of 11% |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:26:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LRShooter]
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This is why everyone is moving out of California. You can get a pretty nice house in Utah for what that house in Riverside county cost and pay $2-3000 a year in property tax. The income tax rate is several percent lower as well, utilities and insurance are significantly cheaper, and gas is a $1 a gallon cheaper.
Income tax rate is 4.95%. Homeowners insurance is $1200 a year on a $880k house. $900k will get you 5000 sq ft here. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:28:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SideSwipeYa: Isn’t CA property tax typically about 1% ? That’s what IN is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SideSwipeYa: Originally Posted By jackthom8: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. this, OP is not one of the poors if he's looking at a property in CA that has such a high property tax Isn’t CA property tax typically about 1% ? That’s what IN is. Yes, 1% of the sales price plus any local assessments. Yearly increases are capped by law. My current taxes are around $4.5K based upon the purchase price in 2009, but my house could sell for $800Kish so the new property owners would pay around $8K in property taxes. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:30:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Los Angeles property tax for 1700 square feet was about 8k. Square feet is meaningless with property taxes here, they are based upon the sale price. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:31:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: Los Angeles property tax for 1700 square feet was about 8k. $8k tax is a ~$800,000 home. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:32:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By subjectofcalifornia: It's 1% property tax on a $900,000 + additional $4,500 And $12,000 for hi risk homeowners insurance. Plus the HOA fees. My current property tax is $5500 and insurance is $2,400 We also have income tax of 11% You said, "Since I'm at the bottom of a short mountain ..... $12,000,00 for property tax" So you really meant $12K for insurance? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:32:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bunnysriflestock]
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Property taxes are crazy in a lot of states I was paying almost $14k living in NJ with a 100 yr old house.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:36:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Lol my property tax on two homes and 55 acres is under $3k a year. How can you ever retire in your 40s paying that kinda cash? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By Duke117: I wish my property tax was only $12k How can you ever retire in your 40s paying that kinda cash? What's your assessed value? Here $12K in property taxes is about a $1.2 million house/property. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:39:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bunnysriflestock: Property taxes are crazy in a lot of states I was paying almost $14k living in NJ with a 100 yr old house. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:40:15 AM EDT
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My parents live in Orange County and have lived in the same house since the 1980s. There is no way they could move to a smaller house in the area, given how messed up the property taxes would be on a new house.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 2:34:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: My parents live in Orange County and have lived in the same house since the 1980s. There is no way they could move to a smaller house in the area, given how messed up the property taxes would be on a new house. OP, is something like Lomita or Redlands too far? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 2:46:59 AM EDT
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I wish my property taxes were $12k. Try $27k on a 2000 sqft house with less than 1/4 acre in the NYC suburbs.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:44:54 AM EDT
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Sorry, my property Insurance would go from $2,400 to $12,000
I'm trying to downsize my bills to be able to retire at 58 to take care of my wife. This house would have let me do it if it wasn't for the extra $4,500 Melloo Roos tax and $12,000 insurance |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:15:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. On a less than 3000sqft house? Where? |
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USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:27:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HourOfAngle]
[#32]
I live in TX and my property taxes on my house and acreage or laughably low. Of couse I live in a very rural area and get very few things that most people take for granted that are paid for with taxes.
Ambulance and fire would probably take a half hour or more to get here, likely much more. The school system sucks on the other side of the county, but I don't have kids. I have gravel hauled in for my road and driveway and have the guy use the maintainer/grader to do my road and driveway when the US Forest Service is out here doing their stuff. I have my own septic system and burn my trash. Have a water well and a comminity water well hookup. All that stuff provided by a government is paid for with taxes as well as all the shrinkage along the way. It sucks to say, but most of the stuff people expect is paid for with taxes. Of course going through the hands of the government creates a lot of waste along the way on multiple levels. For a year I lived adjacent to the San Antonio city limits in an area with an average salary of just over $100k and 97% non minority (Comal county not Bexar county). Taxes were not cheap there, but they got a ton of stuf I don't get at my current place. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 5:10:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: miseses]
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I have a very dumb question, but even common Californians are leaving because they are burdened with overwhelming taxes and regulations. Instead of moving why do they not just vote for lower taxes and less regulations? Was it taught in grade school that if you disagree you just have to leave? The whole thing defies logic, I do not think I've met a single Californian who was happy with the insane tax rate they were burdened with. I have even seen them chased by tax authorities when they left the state, because California thought they were still their property.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 5:15:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KiowaCreekRaider: On a less than 3000sqft house? Where? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KiowaCreekRaider: Originally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. On a less than 3000sqft house? Where? |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:16:06 AM EDT
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Friend of mine had a home in Texas that cost him $12k/yr in taxes and $6k/yr in insurance.
It was a pretty big place that he got a good deal on. Eventually he got tired of the overhead and went to a smaller home in Oklahoma. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:42:38 AM EDT
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Basing property tax on value is not communist. Not at all.
Good luck, OP. Sorry about the wife. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:51:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Paul]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? California has very low property taxes. They were the second lowest in the nation last time I checked the numbers. If the OP is over 55 years old he can take his old tax bill to his new place if it benefits him but I think he's confused everyone on insurance, which goes to a private company, and taxes which go to the government. With Prop 13 if you're 55-years old, and move inside of CA you take your old bill with you. If you lived in a 600 sq.ft. house you bought in 1975 and pay $14 a month in real estate taxes and move to a 10,000 sq.ft. mini-mansion you pay $14 a month in real estate taxes. Also sitting in your home you typically gain 5-7% a year where the taxes are limited to +1% per year, so after 7-10 years established neighbors are paying less than half of the new neighbors. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:08:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secamp32: I wish my property taxes were $12k. Try $27k on a 2000 sqft house with less than 1/4 acre in the NYC suburbs. Holy shit. I will stay in WV 
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USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:13:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By subjectofcalifornia: I was looking at a house. It's in Riverside County. I was going to sell my house on Orange County and move 20 miles into " The Inland Empire" My house in OC is 2,290 sq ft and the new house would be 2,900sq ft but close to a half a mil cheaper to buy We have a special property tax on certain communities and this house has it . .$4,500 extra tax but I would be paying cash so it's not a deal ending tax What is ending this deal? My $2,409 home insurance? Well ... Since I'm at the bottom of a short mountain ..... $12,000,00 for property INSURANCE And the HOA fee if $169. I don't think that I'll buy this house. Come to FL - we will show you insane insurance. Now I have shopped and got better but I am central Florida (not on the beach), no flood plain, simple on a small lake, 2600 sqft - $10,000 from progressive. |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:27:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By miseses: I have a very dumb question, but even common Californians are leaving because they are burdened with overwhelming taxes and regulations. Instead of moving why do they not just vote for lower taxes and less regulations? Was it taught in grade school that if you disagree you just have to leave? The whole thing defies logic, I do not think I've met a single Californian who was happy with the insane tax rate they were burdened with. I have even seen them chased by tax authorities when they left the state, because California thought they were still their property. I think a better way to put it is that you’re free to leave, not that you have to. You don’t have to stay and endure the abuse just to prove a point. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:29:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FDC]
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Property tax in New Hampshire is high and highly variable from town to town and school district to school district. Absolutely no idea what mine will be as the house build isn't done yet.
We have no income or sales tax though. ---or seatbelt laws for adults or helmet laws or mandatory insurance for most drivers or many gun laws |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:33:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FDC]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GeneralDisaray: Come to FL - we will show you insane insurance. Now I have shopped and got better but I am central Florida (not on the beach), no flood plain, simple on a small lake, 2600 sqft - $10,000 from progressive.  10x what it is here. Homeowners insurance <1K per year in a town with no hydrants and a volly FD. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:40:28 AM EDT
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Too bad about CA. If it wasn’t crazy lib I’d move there in a heartbeat.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:41:06 AM EDT
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*reads*
damn.... I'll just keep my 2,500 sq/ft, $570 property tax hovel. y'all live in some fucked up places! |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:59:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: Sorry to hear about your wife OP, God bless you and I hope it all works out for you. Amen. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 8:00:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. Property tax took Texas off my potential escape destination. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:13:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Duke117: I wish my property tax was only $12k Christ. I got 5 acres and a family house with shops and barns and i pay maybe 3500 now that kentucky has decided to fuck everyone in accordance with inflation |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:18:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By subjectofcalifornia: It's 1% property tax on a $900,000 + additional $4,500 And $12,000 for hi risk homeowners insurance. Plus the HOA fees. My current property tax is $5500 and insurance is $2,400 We also have income tax of 11% Time to moooooove and get your relatives to come too. There are parts of this city where you can own an $800k house (pretty nice, but not amazing) and be paying $3.2k / yr in property taxes. Almost everywhere nice has an HOA, but they are usually not too expensive. Our last house was $31/month, new house is $61/month |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5: I know people in Texas paying triple that in property tax. Yup. Property taxes suck here. We don't have income taxes, but it still sucks. I pay almost 9K and considering OP lives in OC my house is assuredly valued at a fraction of what his is. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:24:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FuriousYachtsman: @ $12k property taxSince you're moving, why not not-California? Sister in law and her husband live near Rochester, NY. Their property taxes are $18,000 per year. They can't wrap their head around the fact our property taxes are $1200 per year. They insisted we were mistaken and the $1200 was per month. Nope, per year. You heard it right. |
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