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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:07:04 PM EDT
Can anyone confirm?
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:15:27 PM EDT
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Tagged for peaked intrest.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittlePony: Tagged for peaked intrest. piqued |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:17:26 PM EDT
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They have disabled online orders. Probably the reason for the rumor.
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:17:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squeefoo: piqued Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squeefoo: Originally Posted By LittlePony: Tagged for peaked intrest. piqued interest |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:18:29 PM EDT
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These threads are starting to pop up everywhere, one going on now in the AK section of this website.
I did some quick checking and here is what I posted in that thread: Dunno, seems like just one person on IG saying it. Others have called (today in fact) and KUSA says it's not true. But looks like they did miss a couple of court-ordered settlement payments to INDO-MIM the last two months. (the fuck, MIM parts? cripes) No more internet sales, no press releases since mid 2022, no blog entries on their site since mid 2023. Still just rumors, but doesn't look too healthy. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:21:32 PM EDT
[#6]
 Not my post and don’t know the credibility so take it with a grain of salt |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:22:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dunderway]
[#7]
Weren't they involved in the Larry Vickers mess?
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:28:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dunderway: Weren't they involved in the Larry Vickers mess? Yes. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:28:20 PM EDT
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They posted on Facebook and Instagram this morning.
How can you go out of business taking pre-order money and never shipping any products? 
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FireMissionDivision: They posted on Facebook and Instagram this morning. How can you go out of business taking pre-order money and never shipping any products? Probably by spending all the cash and not paying your suppliers for the goods. Even if those goods are still sitting in a warehouse somewhere. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:49:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Damn. One less option for blown out porn stars now.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:50:43 PM EDT
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They sure had presence at KalashBash.
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:51:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Efl15]
[#13]
Have Jonathan call me.
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SGP
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jm11513: Damn. One less option for blown out porn stars now.  |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:52:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Another AK company in the trash, where it belongs.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 7:56:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:02:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorCalRT: Another AK company in the trash, where it belongs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:08:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rubles: interest Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rubles: Originally Posted By Squeefoo: Originally Posted By LittlePony: Tagged for peaked intrest. piqued interest I know what I typed?
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FireMissionDivision: How can you go out of business taking pre-order money and never shipping any products? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:13:23 PM EDT
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Good. Nothing to do with US jobs lost. Everything to do with inferior product going away...
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:24:37 PM EDT
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PSA has lost a competitor?
Never like to see a firearms company go under, but competing directly with PSA has to be really difficult. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:37:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Yes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Originally Posted By Dunderway: Weren't they involved in the Larry Vickers mess? Yes. At one point I think they hired Chad Wylie (former CEO of PSA that got fired, read about that on reddit). Could be true, may be false. Apparently he was only there a short time. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:38:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FireMissionDivision: How can you go out of business taking pre-order money and never shipping any products? There has been several firearms/firearms accessories businesses that have done just that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:49:26 PM EDT
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I didn’t keep up with them too well, but the whole company seemed like clown shoes.
Maybe @PalmettoStateArmory can buy them out and make 100 series rifles. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:49:31 PM EDT
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Too bad they never made SVDs for the US market at a reasonable price.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:56:11 PM EDT
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big thread on r/ak47
there was a document posted about them not paying payments or something. not sure if true. I highly doubt KUSA is going under though. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:57:02 PM EDT
[#28]
Weren't they known for shitty quality?
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:59:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb03: Weren't they known for shitty quality? I absolutely love my KR-9.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:03:36 PM EDT
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A smiff said that the company keys have already changed hands but they’re under NDA about it and can’t say more.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:04:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb03: Weren't they known for shitty quality? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:06:58 PM EDT
[#32]
That blows if true - they were the only company making 100 series AK clones.
My KP9 is really nice. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:07:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Figures lol. I was going to email them this week to see if they'll do the OOB fix on my KP9 bolt.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:08:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: That blows if true - they were the only company making 100 series AK clones. My KP9 is really nice. Doesn’t PSA? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cinco1: Yes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cinco1: Originally Posted By rgb03: Weren't they known for shitty quality? They weren't known for shitty quality - haha no. Certainly no worse than PSA's AK quality. My KP9 is a great shooter - really well made. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:15:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wayfaerer320]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Doesn't PSA? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: That blows if true - they were the only company making 100 series AK clones. My KP9 is really nice. Doesn't PSA? No - the most obvious difference is the 4.5mm rear trunnion of the PSA vs the 5.5mm of the KUSA - modern Izhmash 100 series AKs use the more inline 5.5mm rear trunnion (the stock is angled more on the 4.5 version - what older AK74s used). PSA's version is close, but KUSA's guns are even closer. It really isn't that big of a day unless you're an AK nerd like myself - those little details are important. Also, KUSA was the only game in town making exact copies of the Vityaz 9mm AK (KP9). They also had plans to make an AK74M clone (which again, nobody else is doing right now). |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:18:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tidal]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: At one point I think they hired Chad Wylie (former CEO of PSA that got fired, read about that on reddit). Could be true, may be false. Apparently he was only there a short time. He certainly seemed to be angling a job at KUSA post PSA firing. A few of his psa firing aftermath posts on Instagram were direct shots specifically at the AK-V and how superior the KP-9 is/was, which I assume it is but the posts were defiantly "look at me KUSA" Maybe he was already hired? Idk the time line but there was a connection. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tidal: He certainly seemed to be angling a job at KUSA post PSA firing. A few of his psa firing aftermath posts on Instagram were direct shots specifically at the AK-V and how superior the KP-9 is/was, which I assume it is but the posts were defiantly "look at me KUSA" Maybe he was already hired? Idk the time line but there was a connection. His whole social media seems to be "look at me." Doesn't impress me. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:27:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fike]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: No - the most obvious difference is the 4.5mm rear trunnion of the PSA vs the 5.5mm of the KUSA - modern Izhmash 100 series AKs use the more inline 5.5mm rear trunnion (the stock is angled more on the 4.5 version - what older AK74s used). PSA's version is close, but KUSA's guns are even closer. It really isn't that big of a day unless you're an AK nerd like myself - those little details are important. Also, KUSA was the only game in town making exact copies of the Vityaz 9mm AK (KP9). They also had plans to make an AK74M clone (which again, nobody else is doing right now). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: That blows if true - they were the only company making 100 series AK clones. My KP9 is really nice. Doesn't PSA? No - the most obvious difference is the 4.5mm rear trunnion of the PSA vs the 5.5mm of the KUSA - modern Izhmash 100 series AKs use the more inline 5.5mm rear trunnion (the stock is angled more on the 4.5 version - what older AK74s used). PSA's version is close, but KUSA's guns are even closer. It really isn't that big of a day unless you're an AK nerd like myself - those little details are important. Also, KUSA was the only game in town making exact copies of the Vityaz 9mm AK (KP9). They also had plans to make an AK74M clone (which again, nobody else is doing right now). 4.5 matches the Bulgarians (which works for me). ETA: I should caveat that with: I consider KUSA and PSA as a different class of clones compared to the foreign built clones. They could be perfect down to the last rivet, but…. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: 4.5 matches the Bulgarians (which works for me). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: That blows if true - they were the only company making 100 series AK clones. My KP9 is really nice. Doesn't PSA? No - the most obvious difference is the 4.5mm rear trunnion of the PSA vs the 5.5mm of the KUSA - modern Izhmash 100 series AKs use the more inline 5.5mm rear trunnion (the stock is angled more on the 4.5 version - what older AK74s used). PSA's version is close, but KUSA's guns are even closer. It really isn't that big of a day unless you're an AK nerd like myself - those little details are important. Also, KUSA was the only game in town making exact copies of the Vityaz 9mm AK (KP9). They also had plans to make an AK74M clone (which again, nobody else is doing right now). 4.5 matches the Bulgarians (which works for me). Yeah, there's nothing wrong with 4.5 (my SLR-104FR is 4.5) - it's just extremely rare in the States to find manufacturers building the more modern 5.5 variants - KUSA being one of them. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:33:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Doesn’t PSA? The current PSA products are not really 100 series. They are closer to AKM internally. Fat stem bolts, no bump rivet, 4.5mm folders. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:36:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jm11513: Damn. One less option for blown out porn stars now. Legit LOL. She’s just as annoying at matches as you imagine. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:41:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squeefoo: piqued Have some respect!
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:46:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: They weren't known for shitty quality - haha no. Certainly no worse than PSA's AK quality. My KP9 is a great shooter - really well made. My KP9 has been 100% reliable. It's one of my favorite guns. Never had any issues with the bolt but sent it to them last year anyway to be replaced. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:46:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mars87]
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Do I need to panick buy a KP9? I bought 30 rounders during freedom week with the intention of buying a KP9 one day.
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:50:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squeefoo: piqued pieakqued |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:56:07 PM EDT
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What do you expect when they hire an ex porn star to push their guns?
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Posted: 4/18/2024 9:58:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: Do I need to panick buy a KP9? I bought 30 rounders during freedom week with the intention of buying a KP9 one day. You never need an excuse to panic buy......go for it |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:04:23 PM EDT
[#49]
anyones got to be better than Arsenal drilling a shit ton of their trunnions crooked
wtf. 
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:15:15 PM EDT
[#50]
PSA has lost a competitor.
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