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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:42:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jRob: Been 7 years. No desire whatsoever with their current offerings. Perhaps if they start copying some of their competition. They are no longer the benchmark others are compared against. They are outdated and falling behind. Not sure why I'd go back to something inferior in so many ways. It's illogical and irrational. I understand not liking them but why are they inferior? |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:43:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: I like the 5th gen best. That’s what im shooting currently and agree 100%. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:43:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: I did not love the half moon in the first 19s either. But, they’re much better prior and now! I also like shoring the 17 sized frame the most but carry a 19 mostly. I switched to P320s and prefer them.  I get bad slide bite and Glock knuckle. I do have a full-size P80 for that Glock-fix, though. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:44:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I switched to P320s and prefer them. I do have a full-size P80 for that Glock-fix, though. Oof, I tried a few and while I think the fcg idea is neat I didn’t love them. We use Glocks for duty so it helps that I like what we use. Lol |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:46:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I've tried Gen 3-5 19s. Gen 5 is definitely the best for me. I had the early Gen 5 19 that had the half-moon cutout in the front of the strap and it sucked balls to shoot. It would bruise my pinky right there. Got rid of that POS. Tried a 19X about a year later and really liked that one. Tried a newer Gen 5 19 and I just don't enjoy shooting the size. I much prefer the G17 over the G19. Gen 5 feels the best in my hand and while shooting. Nailed it. I still keep my Gen 3 G17 and G26 around because I am too lazy to sell them but Gen 5 is better. Couldn't get rid of a 19 fast enough, they don't work for me at all. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:50:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Nailed it. I still keep my Gen 3 G17 and G26 around because I am too lazy to sell them but Gen 5 is better. Couldn't get rid of a 19 fast enough, they don't work for me at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpacemanSpiff: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: I've tried Gen 3-5 19s. Gen 5 is definitely the best for me. I had the early Gen 5 19 that had the half-moon cutout in the front of the strap and it sucked balls to shoot. It would bruise my pinky right there. Got rid of that POS. Tried a 19X about a year later and really liked that one. Tried a newer Gen 5 19 and I just don't enjoy shooting the size. I much prefer the G17 over the G19. Gen 5 feels the best in my hand and while shooting. Nailed it. I still keep my Gen 3 G17 and G26 around because I am too lazy to sell them but Gen 5 is better. Couldn't get rid of a 19 fast enough, they don't work for me at all. 
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:52:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I switched to P320s and prefer them. I get bad slide bite and Glock knuckle. I do have a full-size P80 for that Glock-fix, though. Meh. If you shoot them enough you will just have a callus for a Glock knuckle. G19.5 is what I carry. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:58:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naes: Meh. If you shoot them enough you will just have a callus for a Glock knuckle. G19.5 is what I carry. I shot through the pain every time. I just never saw the reason to stick with it when I shot other platforms equally. I have a nice scar in the web of my hand and a permanent bump on my index finger from giving them a try (11k rounds). |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:07:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jRob]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: I understand not liking them but why are they inferior? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Originally Posted By jRob: Been 7 years. No desire whatsoever with their current offerings. Perhaps if they start copying some of their competition. They are no longer the benchmark others are compared against. They are outdated and falling behind. Not sure why I'd go back to something inferior in so many ways. It's illogical and irrational. I understand not liking them but why are they inferior? Lack of aesthetic and design innovation. Essentially zero of this. Trigger mechanism (again subjective). So often criticized for a spongy trigger or long pull. Safety features like an external safety. I don't personally care about this but I know many people would like an external safety. Horrible sights from the factory. Concealment and carry ability. There are clearly much better options to more easily conceal and carry a firearm. Horrible magazine design for how large the guns are. Where are the advanced features like fiber optic sights or factory porting to reduce muzzle flip? *Edit* They're not bad guns. It's just that the whole industry has moved on so far from where Glock is at that it's hard to consider them. If they drastically up their game and innovate and adopt what their competitors or doing I'd consider them again. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:09:10 PM EDT
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I liked the few that I’ve shot, especially the model 45 or 19X
But I have and love my gen 3 19 so no reason to upgrade |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: I shot through the pain every time. I just never saw the reason to stick with it when I shot other platforms equally. I have a nice scar in the web of my hand and a permanent bump on my index finger from giving them a try (11k rounds). I get it. I wouldn’t want slide bite either. You must have big hands. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:12:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By naes: I get it. I wouldn’t want slide bite either. You must have big hands. I do. My pinky hangs mostly off the bottom of a G19. It sits in that gap between the mag and the grip. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:12:53 PM EDT
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Agreed
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wolfjflywheel: I don’t want Glock Gotdammit, I’m a Walther man https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384690/57D9A4F4-62AB-40EC-A1E8-089892659B9D_jpe-3186611.JPG 
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:32:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Macumazahn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Heartbreaker1373: I liked the few that I’ve shot, especially the model 45 or 19X But I have and love my gen 3 19 so no reason to upgrade Vickers G19.3 with RTF2 is where it is at, that was peak Glock. Peak performance right now would be the 365 macro. I do love some Glock but they have not innovated very much at all where Sig has done so. I’m not sure why that is. just as with the micro guns, if Glock had been first out the door, they would have wrapped up the market. My 3 beefs are the trigger, grip angle, and fat mags. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macumazahn: Vickers G19.3 with RTF2 is where it is at, that was peak Glock. Peak performance right now would be the 365 macro. I do love some Glock but they have not innovated very much at all where Sig has done so. I’m not sure why that is. just as with the micro guns, if Glock had been first out the door, they would have wrapped up the market. My 3 beefs are the trigger, grip angle, and fat mags. P365 Macro and G48 are on the wishlist for me. I've tried both and like them. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:52:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Makarov: Originally Posted By wolfjflywheel: I don’t want Glock Gotdammit, I’m a Walther man https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384690/57D9A4F4-62AB-40EC-A1E8-089892659B9D_jpe-3186611.JPG https://y.yarn.co/dd65a7b6-5a73-47e3-980a-182b1ec41b09_text.gif 
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crownvic96: Sir, could I introduce you to our lord and savoir, G49? Tell me more about this G49 lol |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wolfjflywheel: I don’t want Glock Gotdammit, I’m a Walther man https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384690/57D9A4F4-62AB-40EC-A1E8-089892659B9D_jpe-3186611.JPG I really like my walther PPS. Only 8 rounds is why I carry the 43x. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jRob: Ergonomics and comfort (subjective of course but a very often a criticized reason). Lack of aesthetic and design innovation. Essentially zero of this. Trigger mechanism (again subjective). So often criticized for a spongy trigger or long pull. Safety features like an external safety. I don't personally care about this but I know many people would like an external safety. Horrible sights from the factory. Concealment and carry ability. There are clearly much better options to more easily conceal and carry a firearm. Horrible magazine design for how large the guns are. Where are the advanced features like fiber optic sights or factory porting to reduce muzzle flip? *Edit* They're not bad guns. It's just that the whole industry has moved on so far from where Glock is at that it's hard to consider them. If they drastically up their game and innovate and adopt what their competitors or doing I'd consider them again. I can understand your points, the factory plastic sights do suck but the factory night sights are solid. They are boring from the looks dept but man do they shoot well! Thats all I care about anymore I guess in a pistol that I use daily. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macumazahn: Vickers G19.3 with RTF2 is where it is at, that was peak Glock. Peak performance right now would be the 365 macro. I do love some Glock but they have not innovated very much at all where Sig has done so. I’m not sure why that is. just as with the micro guns, if Glock had been first out the door, they would have wrapped up the market. My 3 beefs are the trigger, grip angle, and fat mags. The mags may be a little hefty but they survive getting dropped very well. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:30:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Efl15: Glocks chambered in .40 S&W are perfection.  Yes,after they get the 357 barrel. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:33:27 PM EDT
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I like most all guns, but the Gen 5 Glocks are pretty sweet considering features, performance and price.
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Tell me more about this G49 lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fordtough25: Originally Posted By crownvic96: Sir, could I introduce you to our lord and savoir, G49? Tell me more about this G49 lol 
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:35:09 PM EDT
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Glock should fix their stupid grip angle/hump and figure something out to reduce slide bite. That's really the only 'flaws' with their pistols.
I've been shooting them for about 20 years. I can live with everything (TBH I don't even get slide bite) but that grip just sucks when comared to something like a M&P. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:35:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PabloMcGlock]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Macumazahn: Vickers G19.3 with RTF2 is where it is at, that was peak Glock. Peak performance right now would be the 365 macro. I do love some Glock but they have not innovated very much at all where Sig has done so. I’m not sure why that is. just as with the micro guns, if Glock had been first out the door, they would have wrapped up the market. My 3 beefs are the trigger, grip angle, and fat mags. Indian MIM pot metals and rusted slides and mags. So much innovation! Sigs marketing department budget and the many former tier 1 paid shills is why Sig has gained popularity. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 1:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jRob: Ergonomics and comfort (subjective of course but a very often a criticized reason). Lack of aesthetic and design innovation. Essentially zero of this. Trigger mechanism (again subjective). So often criticized for a spongy trigger or long pull. Safety features like an external safety. I don't personally care about this but I know many people would like an external safety. Horrible sights from the factory. Concealment and carry ability. There are clearly much better options to more easily conceal and carry a firearm. Horrible magazine design for how large the guns are. Where are the advanced features like fiber optic sights or factory porting to reduce muzzle flip? *Edit* They're not bad guns. It's just that the whole industry has moved on so far from where Glock is at that it's hard to consider them. If they drastically up their game and innovate and adopt what their competitors or doing I'd consider them again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jRob: Originally Posted By Fordtough25: Originally Posted By jRob: Been 7 years. No desire whatsoever with their current offerings. Perhaps if they start copying some of their competition. They are no longer the benchmark others are compared against. They are outdated and falling behind. Not sure why I'd go back to something inferior in so many ways. It's illogical and irrational. I understand not liking them but why are they inferior? Lack of aesthetic and design innovation. Essentially zero of this. Trigger mechanism (again subjective). So often criticized for a spongy trigger or long pull. Safety features like an external safety. I don't personally care about this but I know many people would like an external safety. Horrible sights from the factory. Concealment and carry ability. There are clearly much better options to more easily conceal and carry a firearm. Horrible magazine design for how large the guns are. Where are the advanced features like fiber optic sights or factory porting to reduce muzzle flip? *Edit* They're not bad guns. It's just that the whole industry has moved on so far from where Glock is at that it's hard to consider them. If they drastically up their game and innovate and adopt what their competitors or doing I'd consider them again. So, basically all your "inferior" and "outdated" is mostly your very subjective opinion. Okay. Pretty much all of your objections are not a problem for me.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:04:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:14:16 PM EDT
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I like gen 3 and gen 5 Glocks. But lately I've been liking gen 3 a bit more honestly. Just more options for modification. I should have my two new Grit Grips G19 frames next week. Really excited to try those out.
 Attached FileAnd this may be blasphemy to purists, but I am really liking my Dagger so far. I'm gonna grab another at some point. Though I wish they had an Acro cut.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:20:07 PM EDT
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Pistols are like sports teams or vehicle brands shew!
I own 0 sigs but I’ve had several, I just shoot Glocks the best so I use them. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:20:33 PM EDT
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I like guns. Last week at the range, 320 and G17.
 Attached FileThis afternoon I’m taking my 1911’s. If I could only have one? Probably my G45 or G19. Maybe.  Attached FileOf the few dozen handguns Ive owned over the years, Glocks are definitely the most reliable. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:20:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Macumazahn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PabloMcGlock: Indian MIM pot metals and rusted slides and mags. So much innovation! Sigs marketing department budget and the many former tier 1 paid shills is why Sig has gained popularity. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PabloMcGlock: Originally Posted By Macumazahn: Vickers G19.3 with RTF2 is where it is at, that was peak Glock. Peak performance right now would be the 365 macro. I do love some Glock but they have not innovated very much at all where Sig has done so. I’m not sure why that is. just as with the micro guns, if Glock had been first out the door, they would have wrapped up the market. My 3 beefs are the trigger, grip angle, and fat mags. Indian MIM pot metals and rusted slides and mags. So much innovation! Sigs marketing department budget and the many former tier 1 paid shills is why Sig has gained popularity. Innovation doesn't mean perfection. It means coming up with a new idea. Which Sig did. Glock could have had a modular mechanism. Could have refined their trigger and not left it up to folks like Apex. Could have made slimlines early on. But they didn't. The Glock 26 and 19 are just 17s that are trimmed a bit. The 26 is a brick, although it was my first carry piece and I still like it. I also carry the 19 and think they are great, but it is an old design now, basically with minimal innovation since the concept came out with the G17 in approx 38 years. I'm guessing that is what Glock wanted though as I'm sure it is run by smart folks, and I'd guess they ran the numbers and found that their customer base is happy with what they offer, or that the development costs weren't worth it. The P365 was an innovation. Is it perfect? No, but it is pretty much the same size as a Kahr PM9 with almost double the rounds, nice trigger, and is modular. I'd prefer made in the USA and perfection right off, but that doesn't ever happen. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:21:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:22:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:22:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jagdterrier: I would have a bunch of Glocks, if they offered, as an option, a well thought out OEM safety. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jagdterrier: Originally Posted By Fordtough25: Nothing wrong with an HK, I just prefer Glock. They’re neighbors in origin lol @ban-hater I would have a bunch of Glocks, if they offered, as an option, a well thought out OEM safety.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 2:30:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Macumazahn]
[#38]
double tap
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Posted: 4/13/2024 3:13:09 PM EDT
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Nothing wrong with Glocks. They are still the price point standard by which other guns are judged.
However, they are not the best guns, and never were. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 3:19:29 PM EDT
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My g17 gen 5 came with an outstanding trigger (for a Glock). I put agent sights on it, it goes with me everywhere. I may have gotten lucky with the trigger and gotten a good one, but it blows the 3rd and 4th gen triggers out of the water imo.
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Posted: 4/13/2024 3:26:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VaniB]
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The gun just feels right in my hand, and shoots where I aim it.. The fact too that Glock is the most reliable gun I've ever owned does help.
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:12:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Yep they point well and work!!!
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:33:55 PM EDT
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Nope. Glock perfection included a Tenifer finish that sneered at rust and corrosion with an Austrian haughtiness that will never be seen again.
 Also the early Gen 5 G19 I have with with the window licking retarded half moon finger pinching cutout is the most ball sucking handgun idea ever designed. 
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:36:17 PM EDT
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I carry my G19 Gen5 everyday
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:36:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caboose314: Jerks discontinued the 17 MOS I wanted It's back! |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:37:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2: Nope. Glock perfection included a Tenifer finish that sneered at rust and corrosion with an Austrian haughtiness that will never be seen again. Also the early Gen 5 G19 I have with with the window licking retarded half moon finger pinching cutout is the most ball sucking handgun idea ever designed. That was a down side for sure but i get why they thought it was an idea. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:52:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -Ascent-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2: Nope. Glock perfection included a Tenifer finish that sneered at rust and corrosion with an Austrian haughtiness that will never be seen again. Also the early Gen 5 G19 I have with with the window licking retarded half moon finger pinching cutout is the most ball sucking handgun idea ever designed. I bought an SLR magwell to remedy the half moon cut. That was a dumb choice on their part. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Ascent-: I bought an SLR magwell to remedy the half moon cut. That was a dumb choice on their part. I used the Dawson ICE magwell on mine, but it was just too big for a carry magwell. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:54:58 PM EDT
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Gen 5, Gen 3, Gen 2, Gen 1, Gen 4.
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Posted: 4/13/2024 6:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: Gen 5, Gen 3, Gen 2, Gen 1, Gen 4. I think that’s the common run down, I agree for the most part. |
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