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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:21:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AugustineBolishbatfe]
. . . isn't even a Krink, then
a) Why do people (and really, PSA) call it a Krink? It's no more a Krink than an AR-15 is an AR10. I'm not even one of those guys who cares for 5.45x39 in the way that some people think it is better. I just think calling it a Krink is just coping because we can't have the real thing. b) Why not just go with a superior option like the Mini Beryl (well, I guess it's out of stock, but it is obviously the best-made shorty 5.56 AK), or the m85, both of which are vastly superior firearms with decades of history of production? I already have my flame suit on, so the PSA kneepad-squad can do their worst. (I love you, PSA, I do) |
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Because it is a short AK with a triangle folder?
That means Krink to most non-AK guys. |
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What makes the PSA not-a-Krink? Looks like a Krink to me.
"Krinkov" is a madeup term by people who had nothing to do with the gun, I don't think there's a strictly defined set of criteria that makes a "real" Krink. |
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“We can’t have the real thing”
Yeah, that’s a bigger issue than what people call their rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Hamel: Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: What makes the PSA not-a-Krink? Didn’t Bulgaria issue a 5.56 krink to their police or military? Eta: there use to be 5.56 ‘krink’ surplus parts kits available. |
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Originally Posted By notso: Because it is a short AK with a triangle folder? That means Krink to most non-AK guys. View Quote I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. |
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Originally Posted By GrinningDag: OP: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GrinningDag: OP: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/191/035/135.png Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I already have my flame suit on, so the PSA kneepad-squad can do their worst. (I love you, PSA, I do) I said "do [your] worst." Surely you have something better. |
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Krinkov is a term only used in the US to describe the AKS-74U, so it technically isn't even a correct term at all.
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Is a .300blk AR still an AR-15?
Is a 9mm 1911 still a 1911? Does P Diddy rape men? |
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Are they considered an SBR?
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: What makes the PSA not-a-Krink? Looks like a Krink to me. "Krinkov" is a madeup term by people who had nothing to do with the gun, I don't think there's a strictly defined set of criteria that makes a "real" Krink. View Quote A proper "Krink" is an AKS74U in 545 with a 1:6.3 twist barrel. Krink is an Americanized term. The AKSU is known as the little bitch. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Originally Posted By notso: Because it is a short AK with a triangle folder? That means Krink to most non-AK guys. I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. The reason the Polish/Serbian guns are not called Krinks is because they lack key Krink features, like the hinged topcover and rear sight, in addition to other parts like the handguard retainer and folding stock/trunnion. |
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Originally Posted By deadmau5er: Is a .300blk AR still an AR-15? Is a 9mm 1911 still a 1911? Does P Diddy rape men? View Quote 1) No, and it's a bad analogy anyway. A 300BLk would be an "AR-pattern" firearm. Just like the PSA "Krink" would appropriately be called an "AK-pattern" firearm. 2) No. Same answer as above. 3) Show us on the doll where Puffy touched you. |
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Originally Posted By Apec: The reason the Polish/Serbian guns are not called Krinks is because they lack key Krink features, like the hinged topcover and rear sight, in addition to other parts like the handguard retainer and folding stock/trunnion. View Quote M85/92s have hinged top covers with the sights spot welded and riveted to it. |
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Sounds kind of like something a bigot would say.
My Nagant revolver identifies as a Krink. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: 1) No, and it's a bad analogy anyway. A 300BLk would be an "AR-pattern" firearm. Just like the PSA "Krink" would appropriately be called an "AK-pattern" firearm. 2) No. Same answer as above. 3) Show us on the doll where Puffy touched you. View Quote The whole doll. But yeah, people still call Zastavas AKs and they're not. It's like the people claiming 911s aren't sports cars in the other thread in GD. Super ridiculous cherry picking. |
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Originally Posted By Apec: The reason the Polish/Serbian guns are not called Krinks is because they lack key Krink features, like the hinged topcover and rear sight, in addition to other parts like the handguard retainer and folding stock/trunnion. View Quote O.k., then is my SBR'd (with triangle folder) M92 (which has a hinged top cover) a Krink? Nope, because it's still the wrong caliber. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: . . . isn't even a Krink, then a) Why do people call it a Krink? It's no more a Krink than an AR-15 is an AR10. I'm not even one of those guys who cares for 5.45x39 in the way that some people think it is better. I just think calling it a Krink is just coping because we can't have the real thing. b) Why not just go with a superior option like the Mini Beryl (well, I guess it's out of stock, but it is obviously the best-made shorty 5.56 AK), or the m85, both of which are vastly superior firearms with decades of history of production? I already have my flame suit on, so the PSA kneepad-squad can do their worst. (I love you, PSA, I do) View Quote a) no shit Sherlock, PSA already said this b) feel free to post any data that backs that up other than your opinion c) fucking 24'ers |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: 1) No, and it's a bad analogy anyway. A 300BLk would be an "AR-pattern" firearm. Just like the PSA "Krink" would appropriately be called an "AK-pattern" firearm. 2) No. Same answer as above. 3) Show us on the doll where Puffy touched you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Originally Posted By deadmau5er: Is a .300blk AR still an AR-15? Is a 9mm 1911 still a 1911? Does P Diddy rape men? 1) No, and it's a bad analogy anyway. A 300BLk would be an "AR-pattern" firearm. Just like the PSA "Krink" would appropriately be called an "AK-pattern" firearm. 2) No. Same answer as above. 3) Show us on the doll where Puffy touched you. Colt 9mm carbines are marked "AR-15" just like the 5.56 guns. The "AR-15" trademark was never used solely for 5.56 rifles. |
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Originally Posted By Deerhurst: A proper "Krink" is an AKS74U in 545 with a 1:6.3 twist barrel. Krink is an Americanized term. The AKSU is known as the little bitch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Deerhurst: Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated: What makes the PSA not-a-Krink? Looks like a Krink to me. "Krinkov" is a madeup term by people who had nothing to do with the gun, I don't think there's a strictly defined set of criteria that makes a "real" Krink. A proper "Krink" is an AKS74U in 545 with a 1:6.3 twist barrel. Krink is an Americanized term. The AKSU is known as the little bitch. I mean, I get it, but it made me laugh. |
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Just call it a shorty, that’s what it will be known as when
they arrive on the keepin it real streets |
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Has PSA lost a customer?
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Maybe because Krinks aren't defined by caliber, but instead by a host of other features? (hinging dust cover, different rear sight assembly, handguard assembly etc) The AR15/AR10 analogy isn't appropriate since the AR10 differs aesthetically due to the larger receiver and magwell.
Dimensionally, the PSA krink is actually a pretty good match, just in 5.56, which is in fact a krink variant made by Bulgaria. A Beryl 5.56 shorty wouldn't even be close to having almost any of the uniquely Krink features that are in fact shared by the PSA gun. OP is Duning-Kruger material. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Originally Posted By notso: Because it is a short AK with a triangle folder? That means Krink to most non-AK guys. I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. You asked why. You didnt ask if it was right |
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" Laziness is an essential part of all walks of engineering."
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"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
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Originally Posted By mak0: Colt 9mm carbines are marked "AR-15" just like the 5.56 guns. The "AR-15" trademark was never used solely for 5.56 rifles. View Quote Well, that's because they started life intended to be AR-15s and were modified to take 9mm Mags. Surely this isn't your argument. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By migradog: Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47594/nobody-3170954.jpg Nailed it |
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Originally Posted By TheRedBaron: b) feel free to post any data that backs that up other than your opinion View Quote Ok . . . .here. . The FB Radoms and M85s are literally (and not figuratively) battle tested. |
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Well, the PSA version isn't built by commies for starters.
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Originally Posted By Dragynn: Has PSA lost a customer? View Quote I was about to say "No, I've never bought anything from PSA", but I realized that I used to buy FGMM 175gr back a) before I hand loaded for bolt guns, and b) before they started charging sales tax. So, I have bought stuff from them . . . I just wouldn't buy PSA-manufactured firearms. I do support both of their missions, though: 1) Arming the populace, and 2) making money while doing #1 (which is really their main driver, don't kid yourself. But I'm 100% o.k. with that). |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By migradog: Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47594/nobody-3170954.jpg Attached File It’s krink enough. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By -Ascent-: Originally Posted By migradog: Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I don't necessarily disagree, but a) PSA named it that and surely they know better; b) You never hear anyone (at least I never do) hear anyone talk about their "FB Radom Krink" or "Zastava Krink". c) Those "most non-AK guys" are still wrong. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47594/nobody-3170954.jpg /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif It’s krink enough. Indeed. Does anyone know if they use the AKM or 74 pattern? |
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If a 147 grn 9mm at 1000 FPS is the hammer of Thor then a 165 grn. 40 at 1200 fps must a lightening bolt from Zeus!
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AK autism is the most eye-rolling version of gun-tism.
Why don't you whine about their 100-series rifles too. "Muh BumP RiVet!" |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Cheesecake OG 1,2,3 and Cold War. Knight of Wonder. Nothing rhymes with apocalypse, except maybe taco lips-Carl Poppa
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Back to the AK Files, OP!
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Stop calling everybody Surely.
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I still want one, but in 5.45.
I have a close enough facsimile, a zpap pistol in 5.56, but those have a 10 inch barrel so too long. I’d rather have the 8 or 8.3 in or whatever the AKS74U clones have. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Ok . . . .here. . The FB Radoms and M85s are literally (and not figuratively) battle tested. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Originally Posted By TheRedBaron: b) feel free to post any data that backs that up other than your opinion Ok . . . .here. . The FB Radoms and M85s are literally (and not figuratively) battle tested. And AKS-74U's aren't ???? Ever hear of Afghanistan? An instagram post from that fool "akqualityenforcement" means nothing ....... Can you provide us an example of where the Kbk wz.89 "Onyx" has been "battle tested" ?? |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: I was about to say "No, I've never bought anything from PSA", but I realized that I used to buy FGMM 175gr back a) before I hand loaded for bolt guns, and b) before they started charging sales tax. So, I have bought stuff from them . . . I just wouldn't buy PSA-manufactured firearms. I do support both of their missions, though: 1) Arming the populace, and 2) making money while doing #1 (which is really their main driver, don't kid yourself. But I'm 100% o.k. with that). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Originally Posted By Dragynn: Has PSA lost a customer? I was about to say "No, I've never bought anything from PSA", but I realized that I used to buy FGMM 175gr back a) before I hand loaded for bolt guns, and b) before they started charging sales tax. So, I have bought stuff from them . . . I just wouldn't buy PSA-manufactured firearms. I do support both of their missions, though: 1) Arming the populace, and 2) making money while doing #1 (which is really their main driver, don't kid yourself. But I'm 100% o.k. with that). And why wouldn't you buy PSA made guns? |
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