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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:19:43 PM EDT
The name seems to be misleading as a number of people have thought just being in the EE counted as a "strike" against them or felt attacked just by there being a thread there regarding them. Renaming it would also make it clearer than the point is not to leave negative feedback, but to avoid it by coming to a solution.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 2:51:04 PM EDT
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No! We can’t cater to people’s feelings and it clearly denotes where to leave appropriate feedback for unsavory persons in EE transactions. If anything, rename it “Feedback on criminal scum”.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:00:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RABIDFOX50: No! We can’t cater to people’s feelings and it clearly denotes where to leave appropriate feedback for unsavory persons in EE transactions. If anything, rename it “Feedback on criminal scum”. That's exactly the problem and you dont seem to know what the negative feedback forum is for. It's for resolution and not simply the bad guys. The goal is to resolve any issues that may arise in the EE |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:16:34 PM EDT
[#3]
The “Negative Feedback ONLY” section title is somewhat misleading and IMO, makes people feel immediately attacked once a thread is started. Maybe something along the lines of “Transaction Resolutions and Negative Feedback ONLY, “Disputes and NegativeFeedback ONLY”. Maybe it’s the “Negative” descriptor in the title that is causing the move for a change?
The current title does not bother me but I have never had a thread started against me. I have had to start two threads that I was looking for a resolution. I was not looking to leave negative feedback, only find a resolution to an issue I had with a seller/ potential seller. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 7:12:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mav3rick]
[#4]
The EE feedback system like most feedback systems (i.e. eBay, GunBroker, etc.) are poorly designed and could better.
The negative feedback thread wouldn't be a thing if people would just follow through with what they are supposed to do. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 7:32:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By Marquar: The name seems to be misleading as a number of people have thought just being in the EE counted as a "strike" against them or felt attacked just by there being a thread there regarding them. Renaming it would also make it clearer than the point is not to leave negative feedback, but to avoid it by coming to a solution. Well stated, and agreed. ^^^^ As for what to title it, I have no suggestion. I feel like "Negative Feedback " needs to tied to the forum in some manner. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2024 7:44:39 PM EDT
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The negative feedbacks are being resolved because people are being publicly put on blast. The resolution doesn't need to be done in a thread, it can be done privately via IMs. If not, that warrants negative feedback IMO.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 10:53:01 AM EDT
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Some of y'all are completely missing the point. It's not surprising that the folks missing the point aren't regular contributors to NF threads.
Here is the point. The forum's purpose isn't for Negative Feedback. That is automated, with the exception that Staff must manually approve it. The instigation prior to that approval is via IM for the most part. The subforum is currently used to resolve EE issues. A lot of it is welches, but a lot is also dropped coms, shipping issues (the US is a third world country when it comes to shipping, sadly), etc. Many are offended and feel that they have been called out or slandered simply for being named in the "negative feedback" subforum. Some of you may be glad to be hardos about it, but we (the modstaff of the EE) are far more concerned about parties who are actually out of money being made whole than your internet bravado. The current name does not serve that purpose, nor does it have anything to do with negative feedback. If you want to check negative feedback, you can click on the "user info" tab. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:28:25 AM EDT
[#8]
"EE RELATED ISSUES" has a nice ring to it.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:31:24 AM EDT
[#9]
Resolution for Issues with EE Deals
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Posted: 1/31/2024 11:57:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: Resolution for Issues with EE Deals Better yet. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 5:44:52 PM EDT
[#11]
+1 supporting the name change.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: Resolution for Issues with EE Deals That works. “EE Transaction Disputes/Resolutions” doesn’t sound bad either. As mentioned above, negative feedback can be the result of threads in the “NF” forum and/or private IM communications with mods/staff. However, many disputes can be resolved relatively painlessly when both parties play nice (along with the peanut gallery) in the “NF” forum. Resulting in a non-negative feedback transaction. I’d be curious if there would be an uptick in threads due to the name change. Regardless, the “NF” forum rules are clearly posted and the name change could help prevent confusion for those who don’t frequent that area of the site. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 5:52:53 PM EDT
[#12]
No. Leave it.
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RABIDFOX50: No! We can’t cater to people’s feelings and it clearly denotes where to leave appropriate feedback for unsavory persons in EE transactions. If anything, rename it “Feedback on criminal scum”. lol A large portion of stuff in there has nothing to do with “criminal scum.” |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 6:26:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThePitt: The negative feedbacks are being resolved because people are being publicly put on blast. The resolution doesn't need to be done in a thread, it can be done privately via IMs. If not, that warrants negative feedback IMO. How are you supposed to conduct a 3 way (buyer, seller, mod) discussion to resolve an issue via PM? Trying to submit lengthy records of communication would be a nightmare via PM as well. The current forum and thread setup works fine. If you’ve done something you’d be ashamed of being outed publicly, maybe you shouldn’t have done that. Conduct every transaction as if every detail is going to be public knowledge and you shouldn’t have any issues. |
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Posted: 1/31/2024 7:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By isullivan: +1 supporting the name change. That works. “EE Transaction Disputes/Resolutions” doesn’t sound bad either. As mentioned above, negative feedback can be the result of threads in the “NF” forum and/or private IM communications with mods/staff. However, many disputes can be resolved relatively painlessly when both parties play nice (along with the peanut gallery) in the “NF” forum. Resulting in a non-negative feedback transaction. I’d be curious if there would be an uptick in threads due to the name change. Regardless, the “NF” forum rules are clearly posted and the name change could help prevent confusion for those who don’t frequent that area of the site. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By isullivan: +1 supporting the name change. Originally Posted By Eat_Beef: Resolution for Issues with EE Deals That works. “EE Transaction Disputes/Resolutions” doesn’t sound bad either. As mentioned above, negative feedback can be the result of threads in the “NF” forum and/or private IM communications with mods/staff. However, many disputes can be resolved relatively painlessly when both parties play nice (along with the peanut gallery) in the “NF” forum. Resulting in a non-negative feedback transaction. I’d be curious if there would be an uptick in threads due to the name change. Regardless, the “NF” forum rules are clearly posted and the name change could help prevent confusion for those who don’t frequent that area of the site. Add one more "+1" in support of the name change. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 6:47:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Change thy damn name pretty please.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2024 7:42:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Given that the feedback system is for leaving negative feedback, and we're not supposed to post in "Negative Feedback" simply to leave negative feedback (and people who do get told to use the feedback system and move on), I would support changing the name.
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Posted: 2/6/2024 8:25:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USSRangerSM]
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^^^^EE Mod
I've had to de-escalate more than one person because of title, it made the ability for easy resolution...difficult  people are definitely put off right from the start because of title (though some/a lot deserve the title as it stands) "Resolution for Issues with EE Deals" "EE Resolution" "seller/buyer issues" 
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Posted: 2/6/2024 8:45:59 PM EDT
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I think the rules need to be set in stone and need to not be open for interpretation. To me it’s black and white and honestly I’ve seen some of the biggest whiners in the NF section. It should be called Resolution Center. And the rules need to be 100% black and white. The majority of time it’s a legitimate issue. But something as simple as asking someone if they’ll consider “X” amount and then them being all like “yeah I will” doesn’t constitute a deal anywhere outside of here.
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:20:08 AM EDT
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Here to also add my support of changing the sub forum name. If peaceful resolution is truly the intent of that forum, it shouldn’t come with the heavy connotation of purposeful malintent from one or another party. It ends up causing undo stress and causes the complete opposite of its stated purpose by making one feel like they are being blind sided, attacked, and/or slandered.
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Posted: 3/4/2024 7:11:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Well seems like comments and questions was changed. What about the negative feedback only sub?
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:53:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyk3: Well seems like comments and questions was changed. What about the negative feedback only sub? |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 9:05:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: We ask for NF to be changed, and they change C/Q. You can't make this stuff up. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2024 9:16:01 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tspike: No. Leave it. We've got 99 problems with the site, and the name of the negative feedback area ain't one. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 10:13:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: We ask for NF to be changed, and they change C/Q. You can't make this stuff up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: We ask for NF to be changed, and they change C/Q. You can't make this stuff up.  ETA: Actually, not funny. |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 11:27:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eat_Beef: We ask for NF to be changed, and they change C/Q. You can't make this stuff up. my thoughts as well 
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