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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:25:36 AM EDT
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/04/14/osbi-reports-two-bodies-found-in-rural-texas-county-missing-kansas-women/73323516007/
A friend of mine knows one of the arrested persons (Cole) and said that they had chopped up the two women and were feeding them to pigs! I couldn't find anything to corroborate that, but we'll see what happens. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:55:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By number40Fan: https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/04/14/osbi-reports-two-bodies-found-in-rural-texas-county-missing-kansas-women/73323516007/ A friend of mine knows one of the arrested persons (Cole) and said that they had chopped up the two women and were feeding them to pigs! I couldn't find anything to corroborate that, but we'll see what happens. heard the same from locals Kelley's husbands extended family is good people sad outcome |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 2:18:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
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Posted: 4/15/2024 2:28:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MethaneMover]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aiba7x: heard the same from locals Kelley's husbands extended family is good people sad outcome Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aiba7x: Originally Posted By number40Fan: https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/04/14/osbi-reports-two-bodies-found-in-rural-texas-county-missing-kansas-women/73323516007/ A friend of mine knows one of the arrested persons (Cole) and said that they had chopped up the two women and were feeding them to pigs! I couldn't find anything to corroborate that, but we'll see what happens. heard the same from locals Kelley's husbands extended family is good people sad outcome Edit- looks like the paternal grandmother is one of the suspects they locked up, and she has 160ac in TX county. Edit- she has a shitload of traffic violations, too. Looks like between her and the family farm she has about 1000ac. Plenty of room for....stuff. |
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ABW
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Posted: 4/15/2024 3:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/IMG_7477-3188327.jpg Hence the saying, as greedy as a ... |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:17:25 AM EDT
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This is a strange tale with some freaky looking suspects. Interested to hear more details of how all this went down.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:47:41 AM EDT
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I had a cousin who was a custom kill butcher, that raised Hogs commercially.
he was a highly regarded man by most but sketchy as hell. I remember being 10-11 years old helping out in his Butcher Shop and he went into this serious talk about how to properly dispose of someone to hogs, if I should ever need to do it later in life. blowing the jaws and teeth out with a shotgun at one location before taking the body to hogs was one thing that stood out to me. he said all of it with extreme confidence, like it was standard procedure for him. I rank that conversation 40+ years ago right up there with the 10 Crack Commandments. SE OK can be pretty shady. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:54:34 AM EDT
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Damn!
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:00:08 AM EDT
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May know more this AM.
OSBI also announced that at 10 a.m. Monday they will be holding a press conference to speak to the investigation. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:17:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OKnativeson: I had a cousin who was a custom kill butcher, that raised Hogs commercially. he was a highly regarded man by most but sketchy as hell. I remember being 10-11 years old helping out in his Butcher Shop and he went into this serious talk about how to properly dispose of someone to hogs, if I should ever need to do it later in life. blowing the jaws and teeth out with a shotgun at one location before taking the body to hogs was one thing that stood out to me. he said all of it with extreme confidence, like it was standard procedure for him. I rank that conversation 40+ years ago right up there with the 10 Crack Commandments. SE OK can be pretty shady. Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:17:58 AM EDT
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I’m hearing the same rumors, not sure how that jives with the news that the bodies were recovered.
I’m also hearing that there’s heat being put on locals in dhs and the courts for allowing this custody arrangement to happen in the first place. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/IMG_7477-3188327.jpg They'll go through bone like buttah! |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. I didn't know that was a thing. Other places eat crust side first? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:40:56 AM EDT
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Well, Seaboard Farms is a large pork processor in Guymon. So, most in that area have pigs that they raise for slaughter. And pigs will eat most anything. Not the first and won’t be the last fed to porcine.
Sad deal and completely unnecessary. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:44:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord: And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord: Originally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. Or which hand you hold your fork in, even which side of the fork is up when you put it in your mouth |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:17:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HDLS]
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The two women were considered acquaintances, as Kelley supervised Butler’s visits with her children.
They were traveling to Eva, Okla. to pick up Butler’s children who have been living with their paternal grandfather. Car was found 3 miles from their destination. Two puddles of blood found near the car. Allegedly a custody dispute. Paternal Grandma, Grandma's boyfriend, and another couple arrested as suspects. No mention of the kids' father having a suspected role that I found. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:19:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:24:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: Originally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:28:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: From its circumference to the point, like a communist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: Originally Posted By Pesty: Originally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. I can’t even picture that , it makes no sense. I guess it’s those damn mainlanders |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:34:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: I can't even picture that , it makes no sense. I guess it's those damn mainlanders |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:39:12 AM EDT
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I’ve been told by more than one person that you feed the body to the hawgs, then kill those hawgs and feed those to other hawgs.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:40:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord: And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:42:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: Originally Posted By Riter: Helluva thing to tell a 10-11 year old. My sister served dessert (cake or pie) & I told my nephew that if he were a spy, he would be shot. Decades later after visiting Europe he hold me he finally caught on to what I meant. Americans always eat their pie starting with the tip and that was the giveaway. Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. Crust first? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:45:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CanaryCamaro: I’ve been told by more than one person that you feed the body to the hawgs, then kill those hawgs and feed those to other hawgs. What happens to the bones? Will the hog digest the bones to nothing ? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:46:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CanaryCamaro: I’ve been told by more than one person that you feed the body to the hawgs, then kill those hawgs and feed those to other hawgs. So the first hogs can’t testify against you? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:48:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HDLS: The two women were considered acquaintances, as Kelley supervised Butler’s visits with her children. They were traveling to Eva, Okla. to pick up Butler’s children who have been living with their paternal grandfather. Car was found 3 miles from their destination. Two puddles of blood found near the car. Allegedly a custody dispute. Paternal Grandma, Grandma's boyfriend, and another couple arrested as suspects. No mention of the kids' father having a suspected role that I found. The father was 300 miles away in rehab. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:00:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. That's real retarded. A single digit extended in the air indicates quantity 1 of whatever is being discussed, regardless of which digit it might happen to be. 1 digit=1 item. 2 digits=2 items. No wonder those fucksticks can't win a world war. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:03:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Beaten_Weiner: What happens to the bones? Will the hog digest the bones to nothing ? Yeah that’s what “they” say. Hogs will eat everything and their bodies will break it all down. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:08:43 AM EDT
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The things that family do to each other.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:11:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CanaryCamaro: Yeah that’s what “they” say. Hogs will eat everything and their bodies will break it all down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CanaryCamaro: Originally Posted By The_Beaten_Weiner: What happens to the bones? Will the hog digest the bones to nothing ? Yeah that’s what “they” say. Hogs will eat everything and their bodies will break it all down. Except hair and teeth per the aforementioned documentary. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:26:35 AM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:45:36 AM EDT
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Had an uncle that raised hogs. As kids it was pretty amazing to throw them lumps of coal and see them crunch it up and eat it. Fifty years later I can still remember the sound and the smell of coal in the air from this.
You did not want to fall in to the hog pen! |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:45:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GLOCKshooter]
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Are there diseases you can get from eating a pig that ate a human? Eating a person direct spreads some kind of brain amoeba? Right? And I think some animals eating their own sometimes causes disease in the animal.
I wondered about that after watching Deadwood. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 11:50:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: I bet the Germans go in on the flank, call it a Blitzessen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MethaneMover: Originally Posted By Pesty: I can't even picture that , it makes no sense. I guess it's those damn mainlanders Maybe why Rommel was known as the "Dessert Fox"?  Bigger_Hammer 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:02:14 PM EDT
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I don't know anything about this case but it just screams white trash meth heads.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By couchlord: And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. One is drawn differently, too. I also noticed the Germans I’ve worked with would draw a short horizontal line in the middle of sevens and Zs. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: Are there diseases you can get from eating a pig that ate a human? Eating a person direct spreads some kind of brain amoeba? Right? And I think some animals eating their own sometimes causes disease in the animal. I wondered about that after watching Deadwood. If I remember correctly, cannibals could get something similar to mad cow disease but not sure if that’s the case indirectly. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:32:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OKnativeson: I had a cousin who was a custom kill butcher, that raised Hogs commercially. he was a highly regarded man by most but sketchy as hell. I remember being 10-11 years old helping out in his Butcher Shop and he went into this serious talk about how to properly dispose of someone to hogs, if I should ever need to do it later in life. blowing the jaws and teeth out with a shotgun at one location before taking the body to hogs was one thing that stood out to me. he said all of it with extreme confidence, like it was standard procedure for him. I rank that conversation 40+ years ago right up there with the 10 Crack Commandments. SE OK can be pretty shady. I have family down in Mccurtain county and you aint lying 
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pesty: Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. So no one thinks you're a super secret double agent. Cripes. 
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:53:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Apparently, you eat it upside down, from the side, and put the fork in your nose and the plate on your head. So no one thinks you're a super secret double agent. Cripes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By Pesty: Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. So no one thinks you're a super secret double agent. Cripes. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:54:04 PM EDT
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letting the pigs eat is a good plan actually.
My question would be were these two women some how targeted? Bad fucking luck? raped and abused for a few days first? just a good source of food to feed the pigs? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 12:56:33 PM EDT
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Gators are much better for this.
YMMV |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:02:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runcible: In Germany, you don't eat the pie, you just take a shit on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runcible: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By Pesty: Erm. How else do you eat a pie? Not sure there is any other way. So no one thinks you're a super secret double agent. Cripes. Man, I love GD!! Reminds of schize(sp) videos.  Attached File |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:21:56 PM EDT
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My grandparents told me a story year ago about a local hog farmer that went missing one day. All they found were his rubber boots in the pig pen.....well, at least that's how the story went.
I've raised a few hogs over the years...when they get big (300+lbs), they can easily knock you over, they are solid muscle with four-wheel-drive........and they aren't as friendly as the cartoon pigs you see on TV
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: One is drawn differently, too. I also noticed the Germans I’ve worked with would draw a short horizontal line in the middle of sevens and Zs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Originally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By couchlord: And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. One is drawn differently, too. I also noticed the Germans I’ve worked with would draw a short horizontal line in the middle of sevens and Zs. I don't recall the Z being crossed, but I wouldn't doubt it's often done. . If you are into ancient numerology, 7 is a sacred number. The horizontal line makes it a cross. The number 7 appears frequently in religion, and in daily life. |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:31:44 PM EDT
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I saw that the one guy arrested was a butcher and figured some heinous shit would be found as a result.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobP: I don't recall the Z being crossed, but I wouldn't doubt it's often done. . If you are into ancient numerology, 7 is a sacred number. The horizontal line makes it a cross. The number 7 appears frequently in religion, and in daily life. putting a line through a 7 makes it harder to be mistaken for a 1 you do Zs for 2s and zeros for Os. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 2:14:48 PM EDT
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Not much of an update today other than to confirm the two women are dead.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2024/04/15/missing-women-from-kansas-veronica-butler-jilian-kelley-dead-osbi-4-arrested/73327405007/ |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 2:33:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobP: I don't recall the Z being crossed, but I wouldn't doubt it's often done. . If you are into ancient numerology, 7 is a sacred number. The horizontal line makes it a cross. The number 7 appears frequently in religion, and in daily life. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobP: Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64: Originally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By couchlord: And you got to be careful which fingers to use when you order 3 pieces. When I was in Germany years ago, I went into a pastry shop and indicated I wanted one piece of pastry on the counter. I raised my index finger to indicate one piece. When he returned with two, I looked at him like he had made a mistake. He realized the point I was trying to make, and he sternly looked at me and raised his thumb, making it be known that in Germany a raised thumb means one, and a raised index finger means two. One is drawn differently, too. I also noticed the Germans I’ve worked with would draw a short horizontal line in the middle of sevens and Zs. I don't recall the Z being crossed, but I wouldn't doubt it's often done. . If you are into ancient numerology, 7 is a sacred number. The horizontal line makes it a cross. The number 7 appears frequently in religion, and in daily life. It’s to avoid confusion with the number 1 in handwritten characters. Much like putting a slash through the numeral zero to distinguish it from the letter O. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 2:43:49 PM EDT
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unrelated to this case, but this guy, who fed his victims to the pigs, just became eligible for PAROLE ! Oh, Canada...
Robert Pickton, Canadian serial killer now eligible for PAROLE |
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