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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:01:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0100010: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac kywi mag holders True North Concepts Modular Holster Adapter Safariland QLS mount Safariland ALS holster with nub Optional T-Rex Arms leg strap Velcro onewrap for the kywis Start there. Add IFAK, dump pouch, gloves hook, etc This is the way. 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:20:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:37:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: This is the way. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/20230708_122027-3064746.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By 0100010: Esstac Shooters Belt Esstac kywi mag holders True North Concepts Modular Holster Adapter Safariland QLS mount Safariland ALS holster with nub Optional T-Rex Arms leg strap Velcro onewrap for the kywis Start there. Add IFAK, dump pouch, gloves hook, etc This is the way. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/509384/20230708_122027-3064746.jpg I own most all of them and this load out is pretty much the standard!! Only difference being the belt itself and that's a buy and try scenario so take others advice in here it's pretty obvious what most have and like............. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:50:04 AM EDT
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I like the Kywi pouches the best and Esstac makes great stuff.
The G-Code is another to look at if you want to use different types of magazines, their pouches will take pretty much anything. I'm not a fan of him locking you into his mounting system and he hit you pretty hard ($) for the mounts. But, if you don't want to buy a few belts and a bunch of different pouches, they are good. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:09:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SouthernGunHand: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/619T-qaccgL._AC_UL1100_.jpg 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:09:36 AM EDT
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Ive tried esstac, ronin, blue alpha and lead devil. Safelife is the best I’ve found. It’s stiff as hell and after 3 years of use every day use it’s still going strong. That’s not standing on the range once a week that’s driving, training, patrol, running, fighting, climbing fences etc. I’ve got a lot of weight on it too. Much more than what’s typically shown on a “battle belt.” For an under belt I use an endom flex.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Esstac. It's the best tac. My favorite that I've tried. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:38:40 PM EDT
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Please forgive my ignorance but what is the purpose of a dump pouch? I've seen that term a few times.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:42:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAsoldier: Ive tried esstac, ronin, blue alpha and lead devil. Safelife is the best I’ve found. It’s stiff as hell and after 3 years of use every day use it’s still going strong. That’s not standing on the range once a week that’s driving, training, patrol, running, fighting, climbing fences etc. I’ve got a lot of weight on it too. Much more than what’s typically shown on a “battle belt.” For an under belt I use an endom flex. You must like the PALS webbing? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: Please forgive my ignorance but what is the purpose of a dump pouch? I've seen that term a few times. To put random stuff in it. Empty mags, water bottles, shotgun shells, etc... |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:46:04 PM EDT
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For esstac have any of you guys tried both the shooters belt and the enhanced shooters belt? Which did you prefer?
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:48:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: scuba_steve]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: I’ve been using a Blue Alpha Inner/Outer belt setup daily for close to 3ish years in a professional role. Damn thing has been basically indestructible. OneWrap is your friend as mentioned. Honestly, Velcro inner/outer belt setups aren’t exactly rocket science. I’d imagine you’ll be fine with any from the top gear manufacturers. Skip anything with a padded sleeve. I also used one of those for years (many moons ago) and they’re just not ideal, they shift around, don’t stay put while running, etc. Maybe if you need to hang a lot of weight on the belt in conjunction with suspenders, but that doesn’t sound like something you’d need. On that note, it’s not a replacement for a chest rig/PC. Don’t try to hang a full combat load of rifle mags on it or you’re going to hate it. The HSGI padded inner sleeve that velcros to an outer belt is great if you need to throw a belt on in your skivvies for a bump in the night, but get a proper Velcro inner belt run through your belt loops if you’re wearing pants. Also a fan of Blue Alpha, although I use WTFix straps, which lock things on rock solid if you weave it this way. It's how I have everything but the holster attached on this one:  
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:49:38 PM EDT
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As a civilian you won't use it besides gun games.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: As a civilian you won't use it besides gun games. And trainings. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:18:27 PM EDT
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HSGI around an old Ares carry belt. Those rigid dive belts cause nerve pains in my legs now. Not this. Unloaded I could sleep in it. Esstac pouches and T Rex holster. I should probably have a dump pouch and TQ but I just plink with it.
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:18:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tc2129: I’ve got an HSGI padded belt, an Eagle operator gun belt, and. SubSecond belt. The HSGI was issued at work and came with tacos, I’m not a fan of padded belts, so I don’t wear it. I prefer the Eagle and SubSecond and use both for work. Im a fan of the thinner belt profile. I haven’t had the SubSecond long, but so far I really like it. The owner of the company is a former 7th Group guy and is always working on improving his stuff. He’s local to my area and I run into him quite a bit at the range where I am a member. He seems like a solid dude and really cares about putting out a good product. Quite a few 7th Group guys are using his belts, as are LE SWAT guys. For mag pouches, I’m an ESSTAC fan. I use a Blue Force Gear Micro Trauma kit and BFG micro dump pouch. Holster mount is a Safariland QLS on a low ride mount to switch between holsters and pistols. Subsecond looks legit. Wondering how it compares with Agilite Magnetix. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:28:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Esstac. It's the best tac. It is going to be my next belt. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:46:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By magnum_99: AWS SMU ESSTAC Kiwi pouches (Tacos suck ass) This right here! |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:18:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: For esstac have any of you guys tried both the shooters belt and the enhanced shooters belt? Which did you prefer? I just got the enhanced one. The website doesn't say it outright, but the way I read it is that the enhanced one is stiffer and lighter. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:30:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Oldgold]
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OP, get what’s on sale as long as it’s got a good buckle. I’ve got four and really can’t tell which is which unless I look at the label. Don’t overload it. And get the under belt.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:14:02 AM EDT
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Mid or tall kywi for belt mounted, if you want an open top.
I like the Trex speed belt, more convenient for sizing. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:15:39 AM EDT
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Blue Alpha 1.75” molle double belt with Esstac mag pouches. Like many said, the inner Velcro belt is nice because it pretty much locks the outer belt to you and you don’t need to thread it through your belt loops. I’d be fine with the esstac belt as well, I just got a deal on the Blue Alpha at the time.
I like the esstac small “skittles bag” dump pouch because it’s not too big. However, it’s very rigid and needs to be worked a bunch to loosen up and stay open. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:29:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RHR_12: I like the Kore battle belt. Inner belt keeps it in place, and the click adjust is super nice for convenient on the fly adjustment I've been incredibly happy with my Kore battle belt. I like that is has the minimalist webbing too |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 1:13:46 PM EDT
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GBRS V3
AWS SMU Esstac Ferro Ronin Pick your flavor. Esstac kiwis for mag pouches, always. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 1:17:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: For esstac have any of you guys tried both the shooters belt and the enhanced shooters belt? Which did you prefer? Enhanced shooters belt. Hands down, no question. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 9:56:04 AM EDT
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I ended up ordering an Esstac enhanced shooters belt, kywi double gap pistol pouch, kywi double stanag ar15 mag pouch, mini skittles dump pouch, and qls receiver plate and forks.
I also ordered a true north MHA, leg strap kit, forge concepts leg strap. I got a couple MHA universal mounts. I think that will make make dara retention holster fit a qls fork but I can order a bridge adapted from dara if not. Now I need a couple more retention holsters as all but one of mine are more for ccw |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:08:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: rb889]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: Please forgive my ignorance but what is the purpose of a dump pouch? I've seen that term a few times. Large, universal pouch that can fold or roll up to keep it low profile when not in use. Supposed to be for dropping spent magazines to retain them, but more often than not, it becomes an additional GP pouch for water bottles, twinkies, or shit picked up in the field. ETA: lotta folks talking about using some form of molle attachment, am I the only one that still uses one-wrap for two-piece belts? Waaay more convenient to adjust, save for maybe AWS lab belt panels, which do the same thing while being a bit more stable. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:34:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FistPeso: And trainings. hopefully. I wore mine and my PC during an active shooter in our neighborhood, so there's that. 
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:06:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Large, universal pouch that can fold or roll up to keep it low profile when not in use. Supposed to be for dropping spent magazines to retain them, but more often than not, it becomes an additional GP pouch for water bottles, twinkies, or shit picked up in the field. ETA: lotta folks talking about using some form of molle attachment, am I the only one that still uses one-wrap for two-piece belts? Waaay more convenient to adjust, save for maybe AWS lab belt panels, which do the same thing while being a bit more stable. I am with you, one wrap and Esstac. Molle is not necessary. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:42:52 PM EDT
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I got my order from Esstac last Thursday and True North Concepts Monday. Everything is really nice. The only issue I have is Esstac only sent one velcro onewrap strap or whatever it is called for the double pistol pouch. They sent 2 for the double rifle pouch. I am pretty sure the pistol is supposed to have 2. The side without the strap predictably flops around.
No big deal I thought but I can not seem to reach Esstac. I used the contact form on their website Thursday Evening. Yesterday I still had not heard back to I replied to the order confirmation email which appears to be an email used for contact. I have checked my inbox and spam folders every day. They have no phone number listed. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I am just going to box it all up, send it back, then start a chargeback on my card. I am getting irritated I can't even seem to contact a company that didn't send my entire order. |
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Posted: Yesterday 4:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: My current bb is Tactical Tailor Fight Light. Love it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By 1fromtx: I tried and didn't like the tacos. I went with gcode soft shell scorpion for my belt and have no regrets Edit to add My first belt was a Tactical Tailor and had belt keepers made. Now I have the AWS SMU belt and love it so far. My current bb is Tactical Tailor Fight Light. Love it. This is my first time using the velcro inner belt. Never been a fan of velcro but it's either been improved or most of the velcro I had experience with was imitation. The TT belt was and is a good belt. I guess one problem with it would be it has the loop sewn on it instead of the hook. That part actually helped me with the keeper's being smooth. The only other thing would be the fastex buckle. I've had a nylon duty belt that came undone a couple of times and the TT did once. That one may of been my fault for not connecting it and double checking. Harv24 turned me onto the AWS belt |
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Posted: Yesterday 5:53:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: I got my order from Esstac last Thursday and True North Concepts Monday. Everything is really nice. The only issue I have is Esstac only sent one velcro onewrap strap or whatever it is called for the double pistol pouch. They sent 2 for the double rifle pouch. I am pretty sure the pistol is supposed to have 2. The side without the strap predictably flops around. No big deal I thought but I can not seem to reach Esstac. I used the contact form on their website Thursday Evening. Yesterday I still had not heard back to I replied to the order confirmation email which appears to be an email used for contact. I have checked my inbox and spam folders every day. They have no phone number listed. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I am just going to box it all up, send it back, then start a chargeback on my card. I am getting irritated I can't even seem to contact a company that didn't send my entire order. @SG55xdude They have an industry forum here that might be better for contacting someone |
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Posted: Yesterday 5:56:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: I got my order from Esstac last Thursday and True North Concepts Monday. Everything is really nice. The only issue I have is Esstac only sent one velcro onewrap strap or whatever it is called for the double pistol pouch. They sent 2 for the double rifle pouch. I am pretty sure the pistol is supposed to have 2. The side without the strap predictably flops around. No big deal I thought but I can not seem to reach Esstac. I used the contact form on their website Thursday Evening. Yesterday I still had not heard back to I replied to the order confirmation email which appears to be an email used for contact. I have checked my inbox and spam folders every day. They have no phone number listed. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I am just going to box it all up, send it back, then start a chargeback on my card. I am getting irritated I can't even seem to contact a company that didn't send my entire order. While admittedly annoying that you can’t reach someone immediately, boxing it up/shipping it back and initiating a chargeback sounds a bit dramatic and excessive, especially over a couple dollar piece of Velcro OneWrap. 
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Posted: Yesterday 6:04:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: I got my order from Esstac last Thursday and True North Concepts Monday. Everything is really nice. The only issue I have is Esstac only sent one velcro onewrap strap or whatever it is called for the double pistol pouch. They sent 2 for the double rifle pouch. I am pretty sure the pistol is supposed to have 2. The side without the strap predictably flops around. No big deal I thought but I can not seem to reach Esstac. I used the contact form on their website Thursday Evening. Yesterday I still had not heard back to I replied to the order confirmation email which appears to be an email used for contact. I have checked my inbox and spam folders every day. They have no phone number listed. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I am just going to box it all up, send it back, then start a chargeback on my card. I am getting irritated I can't even seem to contact a company that didn't send my entire order. @esstac- |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SG55xdude]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: While admittedly annoying that you can’t reach someone immediately, boxing it up/shipping it back and initiating a chargeback sounds a bit dramatic and excessive, especially over a couple dollar piece of Velcro OneWrap. We are going on 6 days now (4 business days). That is far from wanting an immediate response. I sent a second email yesterday. Im not going to throw a fit about it but if I can't even get a response after a week it seems I would be better served by another company to be honest. I will give them till Friday. I don't really know what else to do if they don't respond at all. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:37:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SG55xdude: I got my order from Esstac last Thursday and True North Concepts Monday. Everything is really nice. The only issue I have is Esstac only sent one velcro onewrap strap or whatever it is called for the double pistol pouch. They sent 2 for the double rifle pouch. I am pretty sure the pistol is supposed to have 2. The side without the strap predictably flops around. No big deal I thought but I can not seem to reach Esstac. I used the contact form on their website Thursday Evening. Yesterday I still had not heard back to I replied to the order confirmation email which appears to be an email used for contact. I have checked my inbox and spam folders every day. They have no phone number listed. If I don't hear back from them in a few days I am just going to box it all up, send it back, then start a chargeback on my card. I am getting irritated I can't even seem to contact a company that didn't send my entire order. Double and triple check to make sure you don't have 2 pieces of One Wrap stuck together, most of the time there are 2 pieces stuck together and cut as one. If not you can always buy a roll of it off of Amazon and use it for everything. One I saw what it was I started using it to clean up wiring, hold stuff to other gear, secure electric cords when rolled, and tons of other silly things. It's super handy stuff to have around. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:39:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: We are going on 6 days now (4 business days). That is far from wanting an immediate response. I sent a second email yesterday. Im not going to throw a fit about it but if I can't even get a response after a week it seems I would be better served by another company to be honest. I will give them till Friday. I don't really know what else to do if they don't respond at all. They have a forum here and are active. What email address did you email to? There is one listed on the website that is different from what I’ve gotten order info from… pretty solid chance if you’re just replying to the order info it’s going to an unmonitored mailbox. Perhaps make sure your actually sending messages to a monitored mailbox… |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:50:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OiRogers: They have a forum here and are active. What email address did you email to? There is one listed on the website that is different from what I’ve gotten order info from… pretty solid chance if you’re just replying to the order info it’s going to an unmonitored mailbox. Perhaps make sure your actually sending messages to a monitored mailbox… The first email was using the contact form on their website section for contacting them. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:51:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FJB247: Double and triple check to make sure you don't have 2 pieces of One Wrap stuck together, most of the time there are 2 pieces stuck together and cut as one. If not you can always buy a roll of it off of Amazon and use it for everything. One I saw what it was I started using it to clean up wiring, hold stuff to other gear, secure electric cords when rolled, and tons of other silly things. It's super handy stuff to have around. I will check tonight. If that is the case I will update my stupidity. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: hopefully. I wore mine and my PC during an active shooter in our neighborhood, so there's that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By FistPeso: And trainings. hopefully. I wore mine and my PC during an active shooter in our neighborhood, so there's that.  Attached File |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:51:47 PM EDT
[#41]
Have Stu call you.
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Posted: Yesterday 6:53:50 PM EDT
[#42]
What’s wrong with a 511 riggers belt?
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Posted: Yesterday 6:54:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: We are going on 6 days now (4 business days). That is far from wanting an immediate response. I sent a second email yesterday. Im not going to throw a fit about it but if I can't even get a response after a week it seems I would be better served by another company to be honest. I will give them till Friday. I don't really know what else to do if they don't respond at all. Spend a few dollars on a roll of one wrap? |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:56:44 PM EDT
[#44]
I have not read the whole thread, just saw the update in the OP. Are you really getting that bent out of shape over a $.25 piece of velcro? Esstac is amazing. You sound less than amazing.
Buy a $5 3 foot roll of one wrap and move on with your life. You are prime example of why we can’t have nice things. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:56:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: I will check tonight. If that is the case I will update my stupidity. Thats what I did and it works better because now I can one wrap other things to my belt and it's cheaper then buying from online retailers 
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Posted: Yesterday 7:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineHaul: I have not read the whole thread, just saw the update in the OP. Are you really getting that bent out of shape over a $.25 piece of velcro? Esstac is amazing. You sound less than amazing. Buy a $5 3 foot roll of one wrap and move on with your life. You are prime example of why we can’t have nice things. No I am not bent out of shape but I was less than pleased when I can't seem to get any response to any form of communication as outlined on their website. It rubs me the wrong way. |
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Posted: Yesterday 7:20:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SG55xdude: No I am not bent out of shape but I was less than pleased when I can't seem to get any response to any form of communication as outlined on their website. It rubs me the wrong way. You say that but it is clear you’re bent out of shape. You are talking about a chargeback with your cc over a small piece of velcro and lack of comms for a few days….over a piece of velcro. Lol. Hell, pm me i will send you a role of one wrap. However, Im sure Stu will make you whole and then some for your “troubles” |
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Posted: Yesterday 7:23:11 PM EDT
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Posted: Yesterday 7:26:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BMSMB]
[#49]
#HaveStuOneWrapMe
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Posted: Yesterday 7:37:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SG55xdude]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineHaul: You say that but it is clear you’re bent out of shape. You are talking about a chargeback with your cc over a small piece of velcro and lack of comms for a few days….over a piece of velcro. Lol. Hell, pm me i will send you a role of one wrap. However, Im sure Stu will make you whole and then some for your “troubles” I am bent out of shape enough to post my experience and certainly I will return something if I don't receive what I paid for and the company doesn't address it, but not upset enough to really effect much else. You seem like the type of person who must roll over. Im not. They responded on their industry page so its a non issue. All I wanted was to get a hold of someone and I did. If nobody ever responded damn straight I would have sent it back. |
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