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Originally Posted By L_JE: A simple cameraphone photo of a mountain scene, handheld, and wobbling around atop a mountain ridge, wishing to not to topple over and ride out a posthumously embarrassing 1000m fall. A lot of noise, and the moon is overexposed [Pixel 7].... https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-xtLWw4g/0/Fbr75sktkzKb846FN6fWQHWfVk8q639vvNsG3kq4J/X3/i-xtLWw4g-X3.jpg The next day, after making it back down to the valley, below, and after coming back from the bar, I pulled out the 80-400mm and took a photo of the moon through the apartment window, with the specific intent of addressing the over-exposed moon from the night before with a composite image, and some noise reduction... https://photos.smugmug.com/Climbing-Outings/20230516-Chamonix/i-wCQHV4H/1/FFfTPCzrrkBfRfkDtSD9wF9fKR2HXWLqkJ6XNfnr9/X3/PXL_20230522_203220399.NIGHT%20%281B2%29-X3.jpg [Absolutely blitzed for both photos, if recollection serves.] View Quote Looks very good! Where was this mountain at? I don't think I'd like being a few thousand ft above air, drinking or not. |
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Originally Posted By L_JE: France. The photo is taken from a catwalk at the Cosmiques Refuge, atop a ridge at the edge of the Col du Midi, and looking towards the Dome de Gouter, on the flanks of Mont Blanc. The higher set of lights on the glacier are at the Refuge des Grands Mulets, with the lower set of lights being a pair of ascending climbers, maybe even two separate parties, making their way up to the refuge, and perhaps just intending to truck on right past it in a one day push to the top. Revisiting the elevation profile, I'll revise the 1000m downwards and estimate it to be a 500m drop to the glacier/seracs below. (A little further away, at the Aiguille du Midi station, it is a bona fide 1000m down to the snow/talus fans) From the Cosmiques Refuge where the nighttime photo was taken, it's 2600m elevation drop to the town lights. For perspective, that 2600m elevation difference is roughly 1500ft greater than the elevation rise at the top of Grand Teton to the Snake River in Wyoming. It's really hard to describe the scale. From the coffee shop in town to the top of Mont Blanc, it's a 12,700ft difference. And over the course of a mere 5 to 6 miles. Here's a photo of the Refuge taken from down in town. There are two or three rock outcrops at the right of the photo, depending on how you count. The Grands Mulets Refuge sits atop the first, foreground outcrop ... look closely and you'll see it. https://photos.smugmug.com/Climbing-Outings/20230516-Chamonix/i-fFSx2wL/0/XZsRMGhxhfPLfs8bbJQv4CvKdsk7rb9BCssbSqX2/X4/20230602-DSC_1951Az%20-%204128-X4.jpg And the unprocessed .jpg... https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JtpWjrL/0/C9WBRsXmKB3xPJ3M246tKpnX3vXFFV2pRjkzPCR69/X4/i-JtpWjrL-X4.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By L_JE: Originally Posted By brass: Looks very good! Where was this mountain at? I don't think I'd like being a few thousand ft above air, drinking or not. France. The photo is taken from a catwalk at the Cosmiques Refuge, atop a ridge at the edge of the Col du Midi, and looking towards the Dome de Gouter, on the flanks of Mont Blanc. The higher set of lights on the glacier are at the Refuge des Grands Mulets, with the lower set of lights being a pair of ascending climbers, maybe even two separate parties, making their way up to the refuge, and perhaps just intending to truck on right past it in a one day push to the top. Revisiting the elevation profile, I'll revise the 1000m downwards and estimate it to be a 500m drop to the glacier/seracs below. (A little further away, at the Aiguille du Midi station, it is a bona fide 1000m down to the snow/talus fans) From the Cosmiques Refuge where the nighttime photo was taken, it's 2600m elevation drop to the town lights. For perspective, that 2600m elevation difference is roughly 1500ft greater than the elevation rise at the top of Grand Teton to the Snake River in Wyoming. It's really hard to describe the scale. From the coffee shop in town to the top of Mont Blanc, it's a 12,700ft difference. And over the course of a mere 5 to 6 miles. Here's a photo of the Refuge taken from down in town. There are two or three rock outcrops at the right of the photo, depending on how you count. The Grands Mulets Refuge sits atop the first, foreground outcrop ... look closely and you'll see it. https://photos.smugmug.com/Climbing-Outings/20230516-Chamonix/i-fFSx2wL/0/XZsRMGhxhfPLfs8bbJQv4CvKdsk7rb9BCssbSqX2/X4/20230602-DSC_1951Az%20-%204128-X4.jpg And the unprocessed .jpg... https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-JtpWjrL/0/C9WBRsXmKB3xPJ3M246tKpnX3vXFFV2pRjkzPCR69/X4/i-JtpWjrL-X4.jpg That's pretty crazy but pretty scenic. Strange how Europe has the big cliffs and farmland and mild temperatures. The US has nothing like that for mountains compared to the Alps or Andes in SA. Ours are high but don't have that sheer prominence above the valleys the way the European ranges do. Are you there now or is this working on photos from a trip you took? |
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Originally Posted By brass: That's pretty crazy but pretty scenic. Strange how Europe has the big cliffs and farmland and mild temperatures. The US has nothing like that for mountains compared to the Alps or Andes in SA. Ours are high but don't have that sheer prominence above the valleys the way the European ranges do. Are you there now or is this working on photos from a trip you took? View Quote An impromptu trip from this past May. I was working on another moon photo edit, also taken in haphazard circumstances, which reminded me of this one. |
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Originally Posted By L_JE: The timestamp on this file makes me think I did this edit in a bar in Estes Park. The second photo being an edit a year or two later, running it through DxO PureRAW, and being more critical about tone and contrast. The laptop monitor I would have used for the initial edit is abysmal, but at least I knew I had a good photo to work with once I got back home to a better setup. https://photos.smugmug.com/Climbing-Outings/20210826-West/i-BwrPdvX/1/L9T3Jbmhggk5xwk5XL8LJZRJ33dQbbvJKrC6WLj4/X3/DSC_5572B1A%20-%202160-X3.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Climbing-Outings/20210826-West/i-cHcHDGp/1/DkXV8P2Qgsk3FknW2pjtjdX43MLnGkDGZqGSf2N8S/X3/DSC_5572%20DxO%20C1z%20-%204128-X3.jpg View Quote I remember a different photo of this from a different vantage point. On the post processing, is it my display or just the contrast change that makes it look like the reddish brown/rust strata are more visible in the background rocks and toned down in the foreground? Maybe just the green more intense makes it appear that way? All of them are great works, your PureRAW software is magical with the noise and pulling details out of shadows as well as removing noise. |
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[Last Edit: brass]
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That railroad track one loose really good with your face lightened up that much. Doesn't appear unnatural, either. Great composition there, all of your additional ones of Sky Pond area also great! You camera gear must weigh as much as you, that's a lot of extra load when climbing straight up a thin pillar like that!
What's that bright light in your last photo of sky pond? Looks below horizon. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
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Originally Posted By brass: That railroad track one loose really good with your face lightened up that much. Doesn't appear unnatural, either. Great composition there, all of your additional ones of Sky Pond area also great! You camera gear must weigh as much as you, that's a lot of extra load when climbing straight up a thin pillar like that! What's that bright light in your last photo of sky pond? Looks below horizon. View Quote |
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LR's enhanced NR is nothing short of amazing. I usually don't use it, because it takes a lot time to process (this one took about 31 minutes), but it's there if I need it. And there's two things I hate; noise in imagery, and the Dutch :)
For this shot, there's a larger issue of me being in a hurry and not stepping down the aperture (the 200-500 is sharpest on my body at f/8; this one is at f/5.6), but the enhanced NR does a good job of cleaning up some sharpness even after using the normal sharpening tools. Here's the original frame, as shot: Immature Baldie Perched OOC by FredMan, on Flickr First version, using normal NR Immature Baldie Perched by FredMan, on Flickr Final, after apply the enhanced NR. This isn't a tremendous example unless you look at a 100% crop, but the original is noisy. Immature Baldie Perched Enhanced NR by FredMan, on Flickr |
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I can really see a difference in the eye and beak, the rest of it I can't see the original full size, it just takes me to a page with ir reduced.
The extra focal plane depth enhancement is good as well, adding the extra blur to the background leaves. |
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Originally Posted By FredMan: LR's enhanced NR is nothing short of amazing. I usually don't use it, because it takes a lot time to process (this one took about 31 minutes), but it's there if I need it. And there's two things I hate; noise in imagery, and the Dutch :) For this shot, there's a larger issue of me being in a hurry and not stepping down the aperture (the 200-500 is sharpest on my body at f/8; this one is at f/5.6), but the enhanced NR does a good job of cleaning up some sharpness even after using the normal sharpening tools. Here's the original frame, as shot: First version, using normal NR https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53615800723_11da67fac5_h.jpgImmature Baldie Perched by FredMan, on Flickr Final, after apply the enhanced NR. This isn't a tremendous example unless you look at a 100% crop, but the original is noisy. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53623826264_2c6328cda6_h.jpgImmature Baldie Perched Enhanced NR by FredMan, on Flickr View Quote Fred, The noise reduction from #2 to #3 is really good. sharpens the whole thing right up. EBR |
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Originally Posted By brass: I can really see a difference in the eye and beak, the rest of it I can't see the original full size, it just takes me to a page with ir reduced. The extra focal plane depth enhancement is good as well, adding the extra blur to the background leaves. View Quote The original frame doesn't look nearly as noisy as the crop; I think "zooming in" on the crop brings the slight noise at full resolution to more noise. Same noise, but more evident when zoomed in. |
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GD is like putting on crampons and walking through a room full of puppies.
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Originally Posted By FredMan: The original frame doesn't look nearly as noisy as the crop; I think "zooming in" on the crop brings the slight noise at full resolution to more noise. Same noise, but more evident when zoomed in. View Quote Where I notice it most is in the background leaves not having the noise on the green, and being able to clearly see the bird's eye the eye is the Biggest "jumps out at me" improvement, then the leaves. Normal NR you have to look for the eye while the new Magic version the eye jumps out at you and the greens in the background are nice and solid, not having noise crawling all over the green. |
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Obedience is not patriotism. Patriotism is love of your country, not of your government.
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Obedience is not patriotism. Patriotism is love of your country, not of your government.
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