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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:03:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
There is one thing that I absolutely HATE about keto, for the first week or so it makes my ADD worse and my meds worthless. Hopefully I'll level back out in the next few days. It will. It is one of the recommended diets for ADD and could reduce or eliminate your need for meds. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:15:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By eracer:
Originally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By Strikeforces:
How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. What's wrong with heavy cream? |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:16:10 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: Originally Posted By eracer: Originally Posted By Geohans: Originally Posted By Strikeforces: How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. Unless you're talking about it being an issue for the recipe, heavy cream is carb free unlike milk, half and half, and light cream. You can even add water to heavy cream to simulate milk if you really crave it. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:17:33 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Just tried this and its great. Thanks for the idea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By APPARITION:
Been doing Keto almost a month now. I've lost 3.6 pounds in the last week. I go to the gym at least 4 times a week and mostly use a treadmill and monitor my heart rate constantly. I have a problem getting enough calories sometimes as I'm shooting for about 1700 but I also factor in calories of the workout so some days I'll be eating 2500 to 3000 based on activity. I try to maintain under 30g carb and shoot for 80% fat intake. If I'm I'm running a big calorie deficit I have no problem stopping and getting food anywhere even a double quarter pounder w/no bun can be ordered at McDonald's. I don't miss bread at all. I eat to keep calories up not because I'm hungry. I drink mostly water. Going to have 3 eggs blended with 3 oz of cream cheese and cinnamon then cooked as a pancake for breakfast. I use zero carb zero calorie syrup and I'll have about 4 oz of jimmy dean spicy sausage that I smoked and vacuum sealed last weekend. Oh and at the gym I my endurance is climbing significantly, I don't run out of energy like all the other people you see dragging at the end of their workouts. Another thing as far as alcohol, drink real alcohol. Scotch is my go to but lately I've been making old fashions using rye whiskey, bitters and stevia and they are quite good. Others are right it's got to be a lifestyle change. Just tried this and its great. Thanks for the idea. I use different flavor stevias in mine. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:21:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By eracer:
Originally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By Strikeforces:
How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:29:06 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
What's wrong with heavy cream? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By eracer:
Originally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By Strikeforces:
How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. What's wrong with heavy cream? Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:34:55 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
You shouldn't drink milk at all. Cream is perfectly ok. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By eracer:
Originally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By Strikeforces:
How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. I haven't drank milk in about 7 months. I could probably down a whole gallon. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:36:48 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. 
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:41:48 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
I haven't drank milk in about 7 months. I could probably down a whole gallon. I used to LOVE it. But it didn't love me. 
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:42:59 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime:
That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:48:19 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." I know he said it. Still doesn't make any sense. I could take heavy cream right now and whip it up into butter and put it into my coffee and that would be ok. But the liquid cream would not. Explain that. I've been doing mine with a tablespoon of grassfed butter, a tablespoon of MCT oil, 1-2 tablespoons of heavy cream and a couple squirts of stevia sweetener since April 1st and haven't experienced any of those negative effects. I agree that each person should do what works for them but I'll never buy that unwhipped butter is bad while whipped butter is good. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:48:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Cream with sugar is not the same as heavy cream. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:49:38 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Cream with sugar is not the same as heavy cream. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Cream with sugar is not the same as heavy cream. Good point. I always call those creamERS. I can see where some would just call them cream though. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:54:50 AM EDT
[#14]
I do 1 tablespoon each of cream, kerrygold, and coconut oil, and chocolate stevia. The point is to get fat. The point of the bulletproof branded stuff is to make the owner money.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:30:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
I use different flavor stevias in mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By BUCK1911:
Originally Posted By APPARITION:
Been doing Keto almost a month now. I've lost 3.6 pounds in the last week. I go to the gym at least 4 times a week and mostly use a treadmill and monitor my heart rate constantly. I have a problem getting enough calories sometimes as I'm shooting for about 1700 but I also factor in calories of the workout so some days I'll be eating 2500 to 3000 based on activity. I try to maintain under 30g carb and shoot for 80% fat intake. If I'm I'm running a big calorie deficit I have no problem stopping and getting food anywhere even a double quarter pounder w/no bun can be ordered at McDonald's. I don't miss bread at all. I eat to keep calories up not because I'm hungry. I drink mostly water. Going to have 3 eggs blended with 3 oz of cream cheese and cinnamon then cooked as a pancake for breakfast. I use zero carb zero calorie syrup and I'll have about 4 oz of jimmy dean spicy sausage that I smoked and vacuum sealed last weekend. Oh and at the gym I my endurance is climbing significantly, I don't run out of energy like all the other people you see dragging at the end of their workouts. Another thing as far as alcohol, drink real alcohol. Scotch is my go to but lately I've been making old fashions using rye whiskey, bitters and stevia and they are quite good. Others are right it's got to be a lifestyle change. Just tried this and its great. Thanks for the idea. I use different flavor stevias in mine. I originally added sweetener but when I found carb free syrup there was no need. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APPARITION:I originally added sweetener but when I found carb free syrup there was no need. I try to keep the sugar alcohols limited, or else my gut gets torn up. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:35:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HappyCamel]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: Originally Posted By OnlineAllTheTime: Originally Posted By BUCK1911: Dave Asprey says it binds with the healthy fats and doesn't absorb well or something like that and is sub optimal. It was on a podcast a while back. Do the cream in your second cup if you want. That doesn't make any sense. Butter is just heavy cream in solid form. Bulletproof "Adding cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, or honey WRECKS the effects – The glorious effects of drinking Bulletproof® Coffee, like better brain function, increased energy, and normalized weight, can be canceled out when things like cream, milk, nut milk, sugar, and honey are added to the recipe. Each of these foods change insulin response, stop autophagy, or cause inflammation. These physiological/biochemical changes in your body equals a foggy brain, hunger, and fat gain." Yeah that's some pseudoscience boolsheet to sell his MCT oil. Don't get me wrong, MCT is great and very targeted, but cream isn't turning you into a newt. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:40:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
I do 1 tablespoon each of cream, kerrygold, and coconut oil, and chocolate stevia. The point is to get fat. The point of the bulletproof branded stuff is to make the owner money. We start with the disclaimer that I sell bullet proof products in my store and they are fantastic. They are expensive though. I sell more of it than the no name products and the customers are farmers, ranchers, LEO's and oilmen so its not a fufu issue. I will try to find the science behind the cream thing. I have seen it and it made me a believer. My bulletproof recipes 20oz three peckered billy goat coffee 2 TBSP coconut oil Tropical traditions gold. 2 TBSP MCT oil Now Brand 2 TBSP Butter Red Feather 2 TBSP Collagen powder Bulletproof brand 1 TBSP cacao butter Bulletproof brand 1 TSP Stevita chocolate powder 1/2 TSP Ground vanilla beans Bulletproof brand cinnamon to taste 3-5 drops K2 Thorne brand sometimes I add turmeric Every day is not the same. I gave a customer a sample |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:47:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray: They actually have a low carb menu Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By davisac: Going to Cracker Barrel tonight. First time eating out since starting this. They actually have a low carb menu Before I went low carb I had pancakes - with sugar-free maple syrup. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:48:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eracer:
Before I went low carb I had pancakes - with sugar-free maple syrup.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eracer:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By davisac:
Going to Cracker Barrel tonight. First time eating out since starting this. They actually have a low carb menu Before I went low carb I had pancakes - with sugar-free maple syrup.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:49:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: We start with the disclaimer that I sell bullet proof products in my store and they are fantastic. They are expensive though. I sell more of it than the no name products and the customers are farmers, ranchers, LEO's and oilmen so its not a fufu issue. I will try to find the science behind the cream thing. I have seen it and it made me a believer. My bulletproof recipes 20oz three peckered billy goat coffee 2 TBSP coconut oil Tropical traditions gold. 2 TBSP MCT oil Now Brand 2 TBSP Butter Red Feather 2 TBSP Collagen powder Bulletproof brand 1 TBSP cacao butter Bulletproof brand 1 TSP Stevita chocolate powder 1/2 TSP Ground vanilla beans Bulletproof brand cinnamon to taste 3-5 drops K2 Thorne brand sometimes I add turmeric Every day is not the same. I gave a customer a sample Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: I do 1 tablespoon each of cream, kerrygold, and coconut oil, and chocolate stevia. The point is to get fat. The point of the bulletproof branded stuff is to make the owner money. We start with the disclaimer that I sell bullet proof products in my store and they are fantastic. They are expensive though. I sell more of it than the no name products and the customers are farmers, ranchers, LEO's and oilmen so its not a fufu issue. I will try to find the science behind the cream thing. I have seen it and it made me a believer. My bulletproof recipes 20oz three peckered billy goat coffee 2 TBSP coconut oil Tropical traditions gold. 2 TBSP MCT oil Now Brand 2 TBSP Butter Red Feather 2 TBSP Collagen powder Bulletproof brand 1 TBSP cacao butter Bulletproof brand 1 TSP Stevita chocolate powder 1/2 TSP Ground vanilla beans Bulletproof brand cinnamon to taste 3-5 drops K2 Thorne brand sometimes I add turmeric Every day is not the same. I gave a customer a sample I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:49:47 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BUCK1911: Originally Posted By eracer: Originally Posted By Geohans: Originally Posted By Strikeforces: How do you reach the fat macros? Eating some kind of oil by itself....? Dark meat; Butter with EVERYTHING; Fatty cuts like ribeye; coconut oil/butter/cream in your coffee. Lots of olive oil too. When you have some Kerrygold grass fed butter on the table and you can't resist just scooping some up and putting it in your mouth to let it melt on your tongue, you'll know you're in. All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. I hadn't heard that. I wonder why not. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 12:52:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel:
I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. Cream (and butter) are at the heavy end of the dairy spectrum, and typically don't effect people like lighter things. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 1:15:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel:
I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. Some of us have no problems with dairy though. I can eat 3 scoops of whey and 4 tablespoons of heavy cream and don't even fart. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:38:19 PM EDT
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Today is my 6th day of being back on Keto and things are getting better. My ADD is back under control and my endurance and strength are climbing back up.
Went Kayak fishing with a fried of mine today, was on the water from 6:30 am to 1:30 pm and paddled over 10 miles. I hit a wall, HARD, on the paddle in. Lost all energy, was out of breath and weak. I pushed through it and started feeling better when I hit the wall again. Pushed through it once more and felt even better. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:40:15 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Some of us have no problems with dairy though. I can eat 3 scoops of whey and 4 tablespoons of heavy cream and don't even fart. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By HappyCamel:
I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. Some of us have no problems with dairy though. I can eat 3 scoops of whey and 4 tablespoons of heavy cream and don't even fart. I had two scoops of muscle milk, two cups of almond milk, and 8 tbsp of heavy cream for breakfast today and felt great. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 4:43:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: What's wrong with heavy cream? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KaiK: Originally Posted By BUCK1911: Originally Posted By eracer: All good advice. I cook with ghee, which is clarified butter, and has a smoke point of 485°, which makes it great for high-temp frying. Also, buy MCT (Medium Chain Triglyceride) Oil. It's derived from coconut oil, and is a practically odorless, tasteless awesome source of very healthy, easily-digestable fat energy. Bulletproof coffee: 2C black coffee 2 Tbsp butter 2 Tbsp MCT Oil 2 Tbsp heavy cream 1/8 tsp vanilla extract Blend well with an immersion blender. If you don't have an immersion blender, buy one. It's my understanding that you shouldn't add milk to your Bulletproof coffee. What's wrong with heavy cream? Pasteurized milk competes with only gluten as the most allergenic substance in the Western diet, and is associated with a host of autoimmune conditions, osteporosis, arthritis, heart disease, cancer and autism. (p177-178) Plus there's the whole factory farming, grain-fed thing. |
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Posted: 6/18/2016 6:49:04 PM EDT
[#28]
If anyone is using the MyFitnessPal website (not the app) this is a cool script to add a "net carbs" column.
https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript 
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Posted: 6/18/2016 8:12:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Dave Asprey is a tool for wanting you to put butter in your coffee and not heavy cream.
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Posted: 6/18/2016 11:22:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davisac: If anyone is using the MyFitnessPal website (not the app) this is a cool script to add a "net carbs" column. https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript http://i.imgur.com/OQBapqu.png |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forker:
Great idea, but I can't get it to work on Safari. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forker:
Originally Posted By davisac:
If anyone is using the MyFitnessPal website (not the app) this is a cool script to add a "net carbs" column. https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript http://i.imgur.com/OQBapqu.png As far as I know it only works in Chrome with Tampermonkey, and in Firefox with Greasemonkey. http://cavemanketo.com/configuring-mfp/ |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:23:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forker:
Great idea, but I can't get it to work on Safari. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By forker:
Originally Posted By davisac:
If anyone is using the MyFitnessPal website (not the app) this is a cool script to add a "net carbs" column. https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript http://i.imgur.com/OQBapqu.png You installed Tampermonkey for Safari first? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 11:38:01 AM EDT
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A gross question for you experienced keto folks.
I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 11:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet:
A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 12:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked I normally get the flying shits in the introductory phase, I would assume it's my body dumping water weight. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 12:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap:
I normally get the flying shits in the introductory phase, I would assume it's my body dumping water weight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked I normally get the flying shits in the introductory phase, I would assume it's my body dumping water weight. Steatorrhea isn't normal, ever though. Without chugging olive oil anyway. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 12:28:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Steatorrhea isn't normal, ever though. Without chugging olive oil anyway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By midcap:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked I normally get the flying shits in the introductory phase, I would assume it's my body dumping water weight. Steatorrhea isn't normal, ever though. Without chugging olive oil anyway. Yeah I had to google that. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 12:33:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: Yeah I had to google that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By BillythePoet: A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? Possibly, I'd get your gallbladder checked I normally get the flying shits in the introductory phase, I would assume it's my body dumping water weight. Steatorrhea isn't normal, ever though. Without chugging olive oil anyway. Yeah I had to google that. I had loose stool 90% of the time my first 4 months on Keto. In hindsight I probably had a parasite or something. Cheated a couple weekends and it went away, doesn't happen much anymore unless I have my morning coffee and a dip. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 5:11:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillythePoet: A gross question for you experienced keto folks. I've been on the keto diet for two weeks and started having issues with constipation the past few days. Today I finally got past that issue and noticed slight steatorrhea. I've had issues that I felt were gall bladder related in the past, so I'm slightly concerned that my body may not be processing fat as well as it should. Are there any warning signs I should be on the lookout for, if this diet is causing me health issues? You will have intestinal variability - especially if you are taking magnesium substitutes. Things will eventually settle down. I wouldn't ignore cramping or abdominal pain. Also, test your BP regularly. Mine spiked pretty hard for a few days because I'd let my electrolytes get out of whack. Keto will deplete you of sodium, magnesium, potassium, and chloride - enough to potentially cause some cardiac issues. Also, make sure you are drinking a gallon of water a day. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:48:15 PM EDT
[#40]
I did get pretty dehydrated Saturday. They may have been the issue.
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:54:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Today is my 6th day of being back on Keto and things are getting better. My ADD is back under control and my endurance and strength are climbing back up. Went Kayak fishing with a fried of mine today, was on the water from 6:30 am to 1:30 pm and paddled over 10 miles. I hit a wall, HARD, on the paddle in. Lost all energy, was out of breath and weak. I pushed through it and started feeling better when I hit the wall again. Pushed through it once more and felt even better. Almost adapted, but not quite. I'm in a similar boat-- pun intended. When I get off track and have to retransition, I feel weakness and fatigue as my body struggles to produce enough ketones. But I know it's worth it, and so do you. Good luck. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 9:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
I had two scoops of muscle milk, two cups of almond milk, and 8 tbsp of heavy cream for breakfast today and felt great. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By HappyCamel:
I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. Some of us have no problems with dairy though. I can eat 3 scoops of whey and 4 tablespoons of heavy cream and don't even fart. I had two scoops of muscle milk, two cups of almond milk, and 8 tbsp of heavy cream for breakfast today and felt great. I used to do similar; then I learned a bit more about the chemicals in Muscle Milk and similar products, and decided I could just go with the real stuff. It's not real food. Only reason for it is to up protein, which you don't need on KETO. |
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Posted: 6/19/2016 11:19:27 PM EDT
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Just choked down about 7 ozs. of magnesium citrate.....
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Posted: 6/20/2016 12:25:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geohans:
Almost adapted, but not quite. I'm in a similar boat-- pun intended. When I get off track and have to retransition, I feel weakness and fatigue as my body struggles to produce enough ketones. But I know it's worth it, and so do you. Good luck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
Today is my 6th day of being back on Keto and things are getting better. My ADD is back under control and my endurance and strength are climbing back up. Went Kayak fishing with a fried of mine today, was on the water from 6:30 am to 1:30 pm and paddled over 10 miles. I hit a wall, HARD, on the paddle in. Lost all energy, was out of breath and weak. I pushed through it and started feeling better when I hit the wall again. Pushed through it once more and felt even better. Almost adapted, but not quite. I'm in a similar boat-- pun intended. When I get off track and have to retransition, I feel weakness and fatigue as my body struggles to produce enough ketones. But I know it's worth it, and so do you. Good luck. I felt rough all day today. I'm really sore, kind of weak, and was hungry all day. I also felt like I couldn't drink enough water and was craving salt. A drank two glasses of water with a 1/4 tsp of regular and low sodium salt and ate a couple of avacodos to help up my electrolytes. I have also been using a topical magnesium gel twice a day. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to adapt. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 12:27:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geohans:
I used to do similar; then I learned a bit more about the chemicals in Muscle Milk and similar products, and decided I could just go with the real stuff. It's not real food. Only reason for it is to up protein, which you don't need on KETO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geohans:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
Originally Posted By KaiK:
Originally Posted By HappyCamel:
I'd assume the cream thing is based on the whole "dairy is an inflammatory and not compatible with humans" deal, like how it's addressed in Paleo. Some of us have no problems with dairy though. I can eat 3 scoops of whey and 4 tablespoons of heavy cream and don't even fart. I had two scoops of muscle milk, two cups of almond milk, and 8 tbsp of heavy cream for breakfast today and felt great. I used to do similar; then I learned a bit more about the chemicals in Muscle Milk and similar products, and decided I could just go with the real stuff. It's not real food. Only reason for it is to up protein, which you don't need on KETO. I use it as a quick way to get some low carb calories in my system first thing in the morning. I can't eat solid food when I first wake up. I'm still looking for a healthier alternative. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 12:29:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strikeforces:
Just choked down about 7 ozs. of magnesium citrate..... aweful... I use a topical magnesium gel twice a day with good results. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:07:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davisac: You installed Tampermonkey for Safari first? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davisac: Originally Posted By forker: Originally Posted By davisac: If anyone is using the MyFitnessPal website (not the app) this is a cool script to add a "net carbs" column. https://github.com/Surye/mfp-keto-userscript http://i.imgur.com/OQBapqu.png You installed Tampermonkey for Safari first? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:24:05 AM EDT
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Only been doing this a few days with MFP, but I'm having a problem meeting my requirement for protein.
Normally on the atkins in the past, I've eaten until I was satisfied then stopped. If I do that and track it on MFP I'm below what MFP recommends for me in protein. Do I need to look at some sort of protein supplement? |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 9:35:06 AM EDT
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I've never understood these different types of diets. After asking my doctor about them he just kind of smirked at me and replied, "at the end of the day the name of the game is calories going in, calories going out."
I've been on a diet for going on two month's now, nothing special. Lots of water, about 1200 calories a day already down 20lbs. And that's with no exercise. I just stopped eating out all together, no more pop, keeping sodium intake down as low as possible and aimed for all natural chicken tenderloins as my main source of protein. It's working well for me and that's with 70% of my daily intake being nothing but carbs. |
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Posted: 6/20/2016 10:01:07 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosenrot:
I've never understood these different types of diets. After asking my doctor about them he just kind of smirked at me and replied, "at the end of the day the name of the game is calories going in, calories going out." I've been on a diet for going on two month's now, nothing special. Lots of water, about 1200 calories a day already down 20lbs. And that's with no exercise. I just stopped eating out all together, no more pop, keeping sodium intake down as low as possible and aimed for all natural chicken tenderloins as my main source of protein. It's working well for me and that's with 70% of my daily intake being nothing but carbs. Your doctor is an uneducated moron. |
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