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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:11:29 AM EDT
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 Combat Footage | Foreign Sniper Eliminating Russians Magyar  «??? ? ????» ? ?????? ???????: ?????????????? ???????? ???????. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 4:29:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:11:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 5:42:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: "High-explosive projectile, not KAB": how did Russia hit Kharkiv on March 27 - information from the prosecutor's office 03/27/2024 - 6:20 p.m On March 27, around 3:50 p.m., the Russian occupation army struck Kharkiv with two planning munitions, which had not been used in the city before. Prosecutor of Kharkiv region Oleksandr Filchakov told journalists about this . "The war has been going on for more than two years, of course they use different weapons, different ammunition. Of course, [this type of ammunition] is cheaper. The cost of the rocket is more than a million dollars. This is not KAB," he clarified. We are talking about two UMPB D-30 (unified cross-species planing ammunition, caliber 30 cm), which, most likely, were fired from the plane. "The rupture is insignificant, it is a high-explosive projectile. A civilian died from the debris. As for KAB, the destructive effect is much greater," added Filchakov. In terms of the force of the impact, it can be roughly compared with the shelling of Kharkiv in the spring of 2022, the prosecutor agreed. At the same time, according to Oleg Sinegubov , the head of the Kharkiv OVA , the UMPB D-30 is a cross between an aerial bomb and a missile "A 30 cm caliber ammunition can fly at a distance of up to 90 km. They are used both from the plane and from the Smerch anti-aircraft missile system. The final information will be given after the examination," Synegubov said. According to preliminary data from the prosecutor's office, in addition to one dead man, 18 people, including children, were injured. https://mediaport.ua/fuhasnyy-snaryad-ne-kab-chym-rosiya-vdaryla-po-kharkovu-27-bereznya-informatsiya-prokuratury  
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:16:31 AM EDT
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Czech secret service take doen Russian disinfo operation/site.
Aparently included payments to politicians here in NL and other countries as wel as payments to journalists https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/27/czechs-bust-major-russian-propaganda-network-a84656 |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:43:56 AM EDT
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DELIVERED: — 30 RQ-35 Heidrun UAVs — 14 Vector UAVs — 5 anti-drone sensors and jammers — 180 RF 360 fieldkits – drone detection systems — 1 Bergepanzer 2 — 2 bridge-laying tanks Biber — 5 Bronco ATTC ARVs — 9 Bronco ATTC command vehicles — 6 Mercedes-Benz Zetros tankers (water / fuel) — 9 mine ploughs — 1 Pionierpanzer 2A1 Dachs AEV — 6 WiSENT 1 MC — 3 border protection vehicles — 2,056 RGW90 MATADOR — 70 GMG — ammunition for LEOPARD 2 A6 — 4,000 shells 155mm artillery ammunition — 24,000 40mm ammunition for automatic grenade launchers — 1 surveillance system for satellite communication — 330 IR cameras — 3,000 camouflage nets — 2,000 camouflage ponchos — 2 emergency power generators PLEDGED: — 20 Marder 1A3 — 1 Bronco ATTC command vehicle — Patriot missiles — 70 IR cameras
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:54:57 AM EDT
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nsfw.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:56:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
"We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." Understand that Putin practices weasel words, non-commitments and misdirections as easily as breathing. He's probably one of the best in the world at it. That last bit quoted here makes it clear that attacking the Baltics is NOT off the table. The exact words he used can easily apply to Russian action in the Baltics. Fun trivia: the US government officially recognized and established formal relations with the nations of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1922 and never recognized the Soviet occupation as legitimate. As far as the State Dept is concerned, US recognition of those nations has been continuous beginning in 1922. Here's another clip, longer than the one above, also talking about F16s. Very slightly different translations.  Putin says Russia has no designs on NATO countries but will shoot down F-16s supplied to Ukraine |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:58:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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The invaders plan to accumulate and try to storm our positions."
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:07:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:16:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: . . . -Full Auto is the preferred mode of fire; AK74 shows excellent controllability due to 5.45 + Muzzle Brake + ~650rpm . . . I have two '74s. One is a SAR conversation with all Bulgarian parts that is pretty much spot on for a Afgan war build. The other is completely Russian except for the receiver. Man, those were the days! Of course 922r stuff as well 8^P I bought dies and projectiles a while back but the brass prices were just mental. I wish the steel stuff wasn't such a PITA to reload. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJt2-_jXYAAUyrr?format=png&name=small Putin is a war criminal. This is confirmed by proper authorities. What will the international community do about it? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:21:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Bunch of fucking idiots. "It's ok if russia blows up your own country, but please don't blow up their shit, you might upset them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJrZYU1bEAAmYpd?format=png&name=small Yeah, that's how you lose wars. Bunch of fucking idiots. "It's ok if russia blows up your own country, but please don't blow up their shit, you might upset them. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:24:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
HAAHAAH |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:29:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:39:23 AM EDT
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circuits if the wattage is high enough. Its benefit is its aim doesn’t have to be as precise as a directed light (laser) weapon. https://news.usni.org/2024/03/27/navy-to-test-microwave-anti-drone-weapon-at-sea-in-2026 The U.S. Navy plans to mount a high-powered microwave prototype system on one of its vessels as early as 2026, according to the Navy’s Fiscal Year 2025 budget documents. The system will come from the Navy’s Project METEOR, which is developing a directed energy weapon system prototype that the service plans to integrate on ships in 2026. METEOR will “provide capability with low cost-per-shot, deep magazine, tactically significant range, short time engagement for multi-target approach, dual deception and defeat capability,” according to the budget documents. This system will be the Navy’s first high-powered microwave, a type of directed energy weapon system that the Army, Navy and Air Force are exploring to counter cheap unmanned aerial systems. Unlike other directed energy systems the Navy uses, the METEOR prototype will use a different kill mechanism to disable targets. Instead of a focused beam of light, HPM systems use microwave energy to inflict damage to electronics inside targets. The Navy believes that this mechanism, which is unique to HPM systems, will be useful in defeating anti-ship ballistic missiles like the ones fielded by China’s People’s Liberation Army Rocket Force. “Currently, the Joint Force suffers from a lack of redundant, resilient hard kill/soft kill options against stressing stream raid threats of Anti-Ship Ballistic Missiles (ASBM),” reads the FY 2025 budget documents. “The issue is particularly acute in the [U.S. Indo-Pacific Command area of responsibility] due to the vast geographic distances involved, ship magazine size and adversary actions.” The Navy has a similarly named, but separately-funded, HPM project also titled METEOR that is focused on accelerating technology development to address this ASBM issue in the Pacific. The latter effort is getting funded as one of the Navy’s Rapid Defense Experimentation Reserve (RDER) projects. RDER is an initiative that Heidi Shyu, the undersecretary of defense for research and engineering, started in 2021. The goal is to select projects or programs that address capability gaps identified by the services or combatant commands and then accelerate their acquisition. HPM systems will also have utility in other theaters, like the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, where Houthis have fired hundreds of unmanned aerial systems and anti-ship cruise missiles at ships to disrupt global trade. Alongside METEOR, the Navy also plans to test a 300+ kW high-energy laser system developed under the High Energy Laser Counter ASCM Project known as HELCAP at the White Sands Missile Range next year. This system will also undergo intercept tests against surrogate cruise missile targets. However, unlike METEOR, the HELCAP is not scheduled to have prototypes that will get fielded on ships. The budget documents state that technology maturation efforts under HELCAP will inform follow increments to the Navy’s Surface Navy Laser Weapon System (SNLWS) Increment I (HELIOS). |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:48:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Importing gasoline to serve the civilian market costs them money. This is a worthwhile second-order impact to the drone strikes on refineries, starting to make a small strategic impact. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:51:06 AM EDT
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How history rhymes.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:53:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:54:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:58:06 AM EDT
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What does ironic projection look like?
 Vladislav Shurygin says Ukrainians are animals Those MONSTERS! They're shelling our CITIES! How COULD they?!? 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:06:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: "We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." Understand that Putin practices weasel words, non-commitments and misdirections as easily as breathing. He's probably one of the best in the world at it. That last bit quoted here makes it clear that attacking the Baltics is NOT off the table. The exact words he used can easily apply to Russian action in the Baltics. Fun trivia: the US government officially recognized and established formal relations with the nations of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1922 and never recognized the Soviet occupation as legitimate. As far as the State Dept is concerned, US recognition of those nations has been continuous beginning in 1922. Here's another clip, longer than the one above, also talking about F16s. Very slightly different translations.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
"We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." Understand that Putin practices weasel words, non-commitments and misdirections as easily as breathing. He's probably one of the best in the world at it. That last bit quoted here makes it clear that attacking the Baltics is NOT off the table. The exact words he used can easily apply to Russian action in the Baltics. Fun trivia: the US government officially recognized and established formal relations with the nations of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1922 and never recognized the Soviet occupation as legitimate. As far as the State Dept is concerned, US recognition of those nations has been continuous beginning in 1922. Here's another clip, longer than the one above, also talking about F16s. Very slightly different translations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgAnd Finland, and Poland at a minimum. And Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechia, etc, etc, etc. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:32:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
They're right about Serbia, but they may not live long enough to see it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:55:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: They're right about Serbia, but they may not live long enough to see it. No update on that cryptic nonsense from the Serbs. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:20:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat's the date of this, is it recent? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:30:04 AM EDT
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That's a huge purchase by Poland...
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:39:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Russian 2-BMP night assault apparently reaches its objective, but from there things go pear-shaped. ] at ~1:46 -- holy cow the munition is dropped directly into the driver's hatch hole in one |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:55:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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Russian Air defense working for UKR again?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Russia does not have enough troops in Ukraine to launch a second invasion. And they cannot simply travel through Ukraine to Belarus. They would have to withdraw in order to go around them, risking a collapse of the front. He needs to win in Ukraine first before he can open a second front. Sending Russian troops to Belarus, with the intention of invading the Baltics would be the signal that the war is now spreading to multiple countries, and is no longer a localized conflict. Troop movements would be picked up with the satellites. NATO must have a play book already for this exact scenario. The proper response for this would likely be NATO troops moving into Western Ukraine and/or a no fly zone. Poland would also have time to prepare for the war with Belarus. Russia cannot move through Belarus fast enough to surprise the Baltics, since NATO already anticipates this move. It would take weeks to move those old BMPs and T-64s from Ukraine, and Putin must know that those tanks are no match for NATO. He would be better off taking a chunk of Ukraine now, get a peace treaty, then try again in a few years, after he has rebuilt his military. NATO moving into Western Ukraine would end the possibility of bringing Ukraine into Putin's sphere of influence. It would be a disaster as far as he is concerned. They could easily move up to the Dnipro without meeting any resistance. It would pretty much end Putin's hopes of gaining further ground within Ukraine. What would prevent the Belarus forces from invading the Baltic States (instead of Russian forces)? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:09:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: Russian Air defense working for UKR again?
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Awesome video. (Reuters) - A Russian military aircraft crashed into the sea on Thursday off the Crimean port of Sevastopol, the Russian-installed governor of the region said. The pilot safely ejected and was picked up by rescuers. Сivilian objects were not damaged, Sevastopol governor Mikhail Razvozhayev said. Earlier, Russian Telegram channels reported that a Russian Su-35 fighter jet had crashed near Sevastopol. It was not clear what caused the incident. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: "We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." Understand that Putin practices weasel words, non-commitments and misdirections as easily as breathing. He's probably one of the best in the world at it. That last bit quoted here makes it clear that attacking the Baltics is NOT off the table. The exact words he used can easily apply to Russian action in the Baltics. Fun trivia: the US government officially recognized and established formal relations with the nations of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1922 and never recognized the Soviet occupation as legitimate. As far as the State Dept is concerned, US recognition of those nations has been continuous beginning in 1922. Here's another clip, longer than the one above, also talking about F16s. Very slightly different translations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
"We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." Understand that Putin practices weasel words, non-commitments and misdirections as easily as breathing. He's probably one of the best in the world at it. That last bit quoted here makes it clear that attacking the Baltics is NOT off the table. The exact words he used can easily apply to Russian action in the Baltics. Fun trivia: the US government officially recognized and established formal relations with the nations of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in 1922 and never recognized the Soviet occupation as legitimate. As far as the State Dept is concerned, US recognition of those nations has been continuous beginning in 1922. Here's another clip, longer than the one above, also talking about F16s. Very slightly different translations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgYeah I saw the 'We're just gonna shoot down some F-16s' skit. I don't doubt Russia will get lucky a couple of times but Russian mobnik life expectancy wil take a hammering. Bonus seing as F-16s are not a threat the West can keep training and sending them. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:25:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Putin is a war criminal. This is confirmed by proper authorities. What will the international community do about it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJt2-_jXYAAUyrr?format=png&name=small Putin is a war criminal. This is confirmed by proper authorities. What will the international community do about it? Yet they sit on the UN with veto power. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: Russian Air defense working for UKR again?
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No chute seen. Hopefully that means a dead pilot. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:34:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GBTX01: Russian Air defense working for UKR again?
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It can't be Patriot, the thing is still in one piece with a cockpit. 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:38:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: And Finland, and Poland at a minimum. And Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechia, etc, etc, etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
"We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgAnd Finland, and Poland at a minimum. And Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechia, etc, etc, etc. my kinda humorous take on that : my brother was a US military officer for 25+ years. did a bunch of joint staff assignments in France, Germany, Belgium etc he said -- whenever dealing with the Europeans -- you gotta stop the arguments when they try to bust out the 'See you have to go back to 1875 to fully understand...' line of discussion / BS stop then dead in their tracks. because they will try to obfuscate -- to NO END -- the current issues by taking you on a European History lesson to 'educate you' on why they are doing x, Y, or Z EXACTLY what Putin did with Tucker Carlson last month for instance his point -- was basically -- I'll go back 50 years -- MAYBE to the end of WW2. I am not discussing boundaries from 1845 and how that affects current affairs. Yes -- European History is complicated and VERY interesting. Culturally, geographically, ethnically, etc. But there HAS to be a limit at what point we say -- that's IRRELEVANT to the discussion at hand. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 12:44:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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These would be a nice upgrade with the AIM-120c8 missiles for export. These systems are already an export version as well.
for the jets (F-16C/D Block 30, F4, Mirage 2000), a sale is not imminent, but the MND seems to be committed to divesting from them, to optimize the HAF's fighter fleet. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-68 The AN/APG-68 radar is a long range (up to 296 kilometres [184 mi])[1] Pulse-doppler radar designed by Westinghouse (now Northrop Grumman) to replace AN/APG-66 radar in the F-16 Fighting Falcon. After years of Service, AN/APG-68 radar currently being replaced on US Air Force F-16C/D Block 40/42 and 50/52 by the latest generation AN/APG-83 AESA radar. The AN/APG-68(V)9 radar is the latest development. Besides the increase in scan range compared to the previous version, it has a Synthetic aperture radar (SAR) capability. The APG-68(V)9 has equipped several variants, including the Egyptian Air Force,[5] Israeli Air Force,[6] Chilean Air Force, Republic of Singapore Air Force,[7] Turkish Air Force,  Royal Moroccan Air Force,[9] Greek Air Force,[10] Pakistan Air Force, Polish Air Force,[11] Royal Thai Air Force,[12] and Indonesian Air Force.[13] 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By silverstate55: What would prevent the Belarus forces from invading the Baltic States (instead of Russian forces)? The fact that Belarus' military is pretty terrible? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:22:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By silverstate55: What would prevent the Belarus forces from invading the Baltic States (instead of Russian forces)? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By silverstate55: Originally Posted By strykr: Russia does not have enough troops in Ukraine to launch a second invasion. And they cannot simply travel through Ukraine to Belarus. They would have to withdraw in order to go around them, risking a collapse of the front. He needs to win in Ukraine first before he can open a second front. Sending Russian troops to Belarus, with the intention of invading the Baltics would be the signal that the war is now spreading to multiple countries, and is no longer a localized conflict. Troop movements would be picked up with the satellites. NATO must have a play book already for this exact scenario. The proper response for this would likely be NATO troops moving into Western Ukraine and/or a no fly zone. Poland would also have time to prepare for the war with Belarus. Russia cannot move through Belarus fast enough to surprise the Baltics, since NATO already anticipates this move. It would take weeks to move those old BMPs and T-64s from Ukraine, and Putin must know that those tanks are no match for NATO. He would be better off taking a chunk of Ukraine now, get a peace treaty, then try again in a few years, after he has rebuilt his military. NATO moving into Western Ukraine would end the possibility of bringing Ukraine into Putin's sphere of influence. It would be a disaster as far as he is concerned. They could easily move up to the Dnipro without meeting any resistance. It would pretty much end Putin's hopes of gaining further ground within Ukraine. What would prevent the Belarus forces from invading the Baltic States (instead of Russian forces)? An internal uprising |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:28:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: The fact that Belarus' military is pretty terrible? Originally Posted By Banditman: An internal uprising All of that and getting buttfucked by Poland. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:37:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:43:37 PM EDT
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BARKING: Next talking Pro Russia talking point wil be point will be:
ISIS attackers recieved funing from Ukrainian nationalists. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:45:53 PM EDT
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From the other day, new fpv footage.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: BARKING: Next talking Pro Russia talking point wil be point will be: ISIS attackers recieved funing from Ukrainian nationalists. Via crypto.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:50:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:54:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: my kinda humorous take on that : my brother was a US military officer for 25+ years. did a bunch of joint staff assignments in France, Germany, Belgium etc he said -- whenever dealing with the Europeans -- you gotta stop the arguments when they try to bust out the 'See you have to go back to 1875 to fully understand...' line of discussion / BS stop then dead in their tracks. because they will try to obfuscate -- to NO END -- the current issues by taking you on a European History lesson to 'educate you' on why they are doing x, Y, or Z EXACTLY what Putin did with Tucker Carlson last month for instance his point -- was basically -- I'll go back 50 years -- MAYBE to the end of WW2. I am not discussing boundaries from 1845 and how that affects current affairs. Yes -- European History is complicated and VERY interesting. Culturally, geographically, ethnically, etc. But there HAS to be a limit at what point we say -- that's IRRELEVANT to the discussion at hand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
"We're absolutely not going to attack Europe or NATO, that's ridiculous. We only defend our people on our historical lands." ....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbRJST3CADgAnd Finland, and Poland at a minimum. And Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Czechia, etc, etc, etc. my kinda humorous take on that : my brother was a US military officer for 25+ years. did a bunch of joint staff assignments in France, Germany, Belgium etc he said -- whenever dealing with the Europeans -- you gotta stop the arguments when they try to bust out the 'See you have to go back to 1875 to fully understand...' line of discussion / BS stop then dead in their tracks. because they will try to obfuscate -- to NO END -- the current issues by taking you on a European History lesson to 'educate you' on why they are doing x, Y, or Z EXACTLY what Putin did with Tucker Carlson last month for instance his point -- was basically -- I'll go back 50 years -- MAYBE to the end of WW2. I am not discussing boundaries from 1845 and how that affects current affairs. Yes -- European History is complicated and VERY interesting. Culturally, geographically, ethnically, etc. But there HAS to be a limit at what point we say -- that's IRRELEVANT to the discussion at hand. Fuck that shit! We need to return to the borders of 1658. 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swede1986: Fuck that shit! We need to return to the borders of 1658. You mean when Finland was a province of Sweden? And included Karelia?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By silverstate55: What would prevent the Belarus forces from invading the Baltic States (instead of Russian forces)? Belarus has a very small national armed force, and they need every bit of it to keep Lukashenko on the throne. That's practically their only role. They have virtually no offensive capability. Russia could roll the Baltics if they weren't all tied down in Ukraine, but Lithuania could probably stop Belarus cold by themselves. And then Article 5 reinforcements would arrive, and Lukashenko would be gone, along with the "Union State." |
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