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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: I started watching in the early 90’s and it might as well have been a Martian baseball league. It took me over 5 years to meet anyone who was even vaguely familiar. And in those pre-internet days, the only option was visiting the magazine stand (yeah…) and buying copies of Autosport. At this point, it’s kind of surreal to see the change into what it has now become. I first started seeing signs of F1 online at University in England in 1995; it was a news site of some sort but it would be ~3yrs before it was a primary source. There was also a Yahoo F1 group that makes this one look tame... Prior to that, it was the back page of the newspaper on the Monday morning, and weekly Autosport. I used to follow Giorgio Piola's tech drawings with great interest; I can still tell what time of season certain features came in when I see photographs. I never followed it that closely in the internet era, although Piola is still going strong. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmt1991: Fortunately, AutoWeek would have a write-up when it arrived on Wednesday. I loved AutoWeek, I was pissed when they went to the magazine format, I loved the news paper style. Remember all the for sale ads in the back, Ford RS200s for $5K. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:39:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tifosi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: I first started seeing signs of F1 online at University in England in 1995; it was a news site of some sort but it would be ~3yrs before it was a primary source. There was also a Yahoo F1 group that makes this one look tame... Prior to that, it was the back page of the newspaper on the Monday morning, and weekly Autosport. I used to follow Giorgio Piola's tech drawings with great interest; I can still tell what time of season certain features came in when I see photographs. I never followed it that closely in the internet era, although Piola is still going strong. But I was on that forum at least as far back as '97. edit: Wild. Looks like they still maintain a nostalgic link to the homepage, although most of the links are dead. lol. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:47:09 PM EDT
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I started watching regularly in the 2000-2004 era for Schumacher, although I can't recall exactly when. I really enjoyed Speed Channel with Varsha, Matchett and Hobbs.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_J: I started watching regularly in the 2000-2004 era for Schumacher, although I can't recall exactly when. I really enjoyed Speed Channel with Varsha, Matchett and Hobbs. That was a tough period if you weren't a Ferrari fan. Although 2000 & 2003 were really great years. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 4:42:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: That was a tough period if you weren't a Ferrari fan. Although 2000 & 2003 were really great years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By D_J: I started watching regularly in the 2000-2004 era for Schumacher, although I can't recall exactly when. I really enjoyed Speed Channel with Varsha, Matchett and Hobbs. That was a tough period if you weren't a Ferrari fan. Although 2000 & 2003 were really great years. I think '03 or '04 must have been my first full season, because I remember how much I hated Alonso in '05.  Now I'm a huge fan of his. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:06:31 PM EDT
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The Varsha Matchett Hobbs combo was the best ever. I get a kick out of hearing Varsha occasionally doing Barrett Jackson auctions
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:25:35 PM EDT
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I remember watching Monaco on ABC in 67. Not a good time for F1.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:41:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DEF: I remember watching Monaco on ABC in 67. Not a good time for F1. Bandini? God that was awful. I've seen the footage of them picking him up off the asphalt after putting out the fire, and he looks like a clump of seaweed. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Imola bringing back more gravel traps, every track needs to do this! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNCzIStXAAA3iIS?format=jpg&name=large I disagree. I sucks seeing someone hit / forced off and then being out of the race. Even if it is the fault of the driver's that goes off, seeing their race end instead of trying to come back sucks. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:17:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: I don't go back that far, but when I started watching in the 90's we at least had Speed Channel, with Bob Varsha and David Hobbs. Unfortunately with commercials, but I guess that wasn't so bad all things considered. That is when I started. It is a shame Fox ruined the channel. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:29:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: New Lollipopman, Part 1 of 2!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLQRjXHX_9MThe fact that he had to split in two is awesome. This last weekend had so much good stuff. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:12:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PinePig: I loved AutoWeek, I was pissed when they went to the magazine format, I loved the news paper style. Remember all the for sale ads in the back, Ford RS200s for $5K. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PinePig: Originally Posted By jmt1991: Fortunately, AutoWeek would have a write-up when it arrived on Wednesday. I loved AutoWeek, I was pissed when they went to the magazine format, I loved the news paper style. Remember all the for sale ads in the back, Ford RS200s for $5K. I loved when Dutch Mandel wrecked a 308, that was around 80-81. Denise McCluggage had great articles, the radar jammers in the back section, Escape Road......  I learned about so many obscure cars just by reading the classifieds. It all changed when they took the old-time racing helmet logo away. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:01:50 AM EDT
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This is uhh, interesting looking...
 If it works and races or sessions don't get red flagged I'm all for it. I wonder how pitstops will work? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:01:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: This is uhh, interesting looking... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNIGClqWgAAIK8V?format=jpg&name=medium If it works and races or sessions don't get red flagged I'm all for it. I wonder how pitstops will work? Only F1 could be this fucking stupid..... |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:05:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Only F1 could be this fucking stupid..... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By DCV_117: This is uhh, interesting looking... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNIGClqWgAAIK8V?format=jpg&name=medium If it works and races or sessions don't get red flagged I'm all for it. I wonder how pitstops will work? Only F1 could be this fucking stupid..... 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:08:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: This is uhh, interesting looking... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNIGClqWgAAIK8V?format=jpg&name=medium If it works and races or sessions don't get red flagged I'm all for it. I wonder how pitstops will work? - Not much of a test on a dry track, is it? - Those are one of the ugliest appendages I've ever seen tacked onto a racecar. - Another step away from the whole "open cockpit/open wheel" tradition. Why not just clothe them in some sort of Hypercar style bodywork? At least that would look good. - We all know that F1 doesn't race in the rain anymore. Anything more than a fine drizzle and they're setting up tent city in the pit lane. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:26:26 AM EDT
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Perhaps they are trying to armor up the cars to protect them from Perez, Logan and Lance?
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:40:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:42:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Couple thoughts... - Not much of a test on a dry track, is it? - Those are one of the ugliest appendages I've ever seen tacked onto a racecar. - Another step away from the whole "open cockpit/open wheel" tradition. Why not just clothe them in some sort of Hypercar style bodywork? At least that would look good. - We all know that F1 doesn't race in the rain anymore. Anything more than a fine drizzle and they're setting up tent city in the pit lane. I guess they'll get some nice data about how it affects wake management. It'll probably make the cars quicker in the dry. I agree about it being silly though. They're starting to look more like prototypes. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:44:49 AM EDT
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Unsure how well they are working.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 10:08:59 AM EDT
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Either it's an open wheel car series or it isn't.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:15:38 AM EDT
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This all looks a bit design-by-committee and although that's a big part of the current regulation doctrine I don't think this is the right direction at all.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Unsure how well they are working. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNIf0xYWMAAN4Qp.jpg It looks like they are doing a decent job with moving some of the spray out and low. No matter what you do with the tires, the underbody of the cars is going to let out huge spray from the diffuser 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racerpk11: It looks like they are doing a decent job with moving some of the spray out and low. No matter what you do with the tires, the underbody of the cars is going to let out huge spray from the diffuser https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/307753/gettyimages-2152143504-2048x2048-3209558.jpg |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Are there any comparison photos from the following car? With and without? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Originally Posted By racerpk11: It looks like they are doing a decent job with moving some of the spray out and low. No matter what you do with the tires, the underbody of the cars is going to let out huge spray from the diffuser https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/307753/gettyimages-2152143504-2048x2048-3209558.jpg The best I have seen is the one I posted with the car behind being without the spray guards. There are a few more images in the set of photos, I found them here: Spray Guard Testing Photos |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:45:44 PM EDT
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those are fugly and useless. its the difuser bringing most of the spray up.
Tomorrow filming day with the new EVO version of the car. Very reliable source are talking about a .3 gain. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Are there any comparison photos from the following car? With and without? It looks like outwash is still very much a thing with these regs. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 2:04:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: It looks like outwash is still very much a thing with these regs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By tifosi: Are there any comparison photos from the following car? With and without? It looks like outwash is still very much a thing with these regs. Especially with those splash guards. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 3:57:38 PM EDT
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I remember watching races from channel 9 the closest BBC channel to Detroit late night on Sundays in the 80s and early 90s. That was the end of their broadcast day if I remember right
Scrolling through their offerings the other night I found that PlutoTV has an F1 Channel I watch through amazon prime and my firestick but its available on desktop without prime I've seen older races I think last night was China 2011 2024 Bahrain is on now 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 5:31:25 PM EDT
[#31]
Thank God
Xavi Marcos booted from Charles pit |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:23:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Thank God Xavi Marcos booted from Charles pit 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:24:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:11:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shung]
[#34]
Details of the new sf-24 evo
 Splendida affascinante Ferrari SF24 EVO, i primi dettagli... Very rb20 like |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:20:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:50:44 AM EDT
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 NEW Ferrari SF-24 "EVO" B-Version testing with Charles Leclerc at Pista di Fiorano - May 10, 2024 |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 7:19:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Craig Scarborough (@ScarbsTech) May 10, 2024 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNM_Ux6XMAAIaom?format=jpg&name=900x900 These cars are extremely modular. They can bolt on new things very easily. Designing and construction is the challenge. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 8:00:35 AM EDT
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@Aaron_Krafft A new engine cover and rear wing as well and a new front wing too. So combined with the new floor really a whole new car |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 8:15:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DCV_117]
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Well, this is interesting: Carlos Sainz Sr has left Audi and is now with Ford.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 8:21:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Well, this is interesting: Carlos Sainz Sr has left Audi and is now with Ford.
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Posted: 5/10/2024 9:50:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadtired: Didn't he race for Ford in WRC around 2000-ish? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadtired: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Well, this is interesting: Carlos Sainz Sr has left Audi and is now with Ford.
Per the article this will be his fourth time driving for Ford. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:00:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat...that is mean but hilarious. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 11:21:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Well, this is interesting: Carlos Sainz Sr has left Audi and is now with Ford.
IIRC, Audi exited the series. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: IIRC, Audi exited the series. The VAG playbook*: i) Spend boat load of money ii) Marketing and wins, rivers of chocolate, sport rejoices iii) Suddenly leave *Except Porsche. God bless them. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:51:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: The VAG playbook*: i) Spend boat load of money ii) Marketing and wins, rivers of chocolate, sport rejoices iii) Suddenly leave *Except Porsche. God bless them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By fike: IIRC, Audi exited the series. The VAG playbook*: i) Spend boat load of money ii) Marketing and wins, rivers of chocolate, sport rejoices iii) Suddenly leave *Except Porsche. God bless them. I don’t recall the specifics, but they only cared about Dakar which the FIA made part of a series. They were getting fined fairly heavily for missing all of the other races. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:22:50 PM EDT
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No F1 this weekend, but don't forget that WEC has the 6 hours of Spa tomorrow,
Moto GP is at Le Mans on Sunday and IMSA is at Laguna Seca. Plenty of petrol fumes to keep gearheads happy this weekend. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: No F1 this weekend, but don't forget that WEC has the 6 hours of Spa tomorrow, Moto GP is at Le Mans on Sunday and IMSA is at Laguna Seca. Plenty of petrol fumes to keep gearheads happy this weekend. Check YouTube for the WEC race. Often they are streamed there. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:26:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tifosi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Check YouTube for the WEC race. Often they are streamed there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By tifosi: No F1 this weekend, but don't forget that WEC has the 6 hours of Spa tomorrow, Moto GP is at Le Mans on Sunday and IMSA is at Laguna Seca. Plenty of petrol fumes to keep gearheads happy this weekend. Check YouTube for the WEC race. Often they are streamed there. for new subscribers. edit: looks like Motortrend+ has been rolled into discovery+, but yes, WEC is still available. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 9:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Also, I know it's on Motortrend+ which is cheap (less than a cup of coffee each month), or at the very least they probably have a trial membership for new subscribers. edit: looks like Motortrend+ has been rolled into discovery+, but yes, WEC is still available. Also available on Max. That’s where I’m watching it. |
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Posted: 5/11/2024 6:09:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tobysi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: Craig Scarborough (@ScarbsTech) May 10, 2024 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNM_Ux6XMAAIaom?format=jpg&name=900x900 It’s almost a carbon copy of Red Bulls sidepods.  Attached File |
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