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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:45:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Amped: Do the jingle! Red on yellow, kill a fellow, red on black, friend of Jack. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Amped: Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Coral snake? Do the jingle! Red on yellow, kill a fellow, red on black, friend of Jack. Red on yellow, friend of a fellow. Red on black, you’re dead Jack. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. got no problem killing a dog that needs killing, either difference is the dog isn't likely to kill me with a single bite from the cover of high grass |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:49:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreyGhost: What has this country come to when a man gets castigated over killing a snake. What a bunch of little girlie boys. The girlie boys are the ones who are so scared of snakes they have to kill them. I bet you wear skirts and high heels on Thursdays. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:50:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frayedknot: Red on yellow, friend of a fellow. Red on black, you’re dead Jack. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frayedknot: Originally Posted By Amped: Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Coral snake? Do the jingle! Red on yellow, kill a fellow, red on black, friend of Jack. Red on yellow, friend of a fellow. Red on black, you’re dead Jack. No. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:51:00 PM EDT
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Scared the shit out of me... I thought I found my death announcement. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. Here on arfcom we all have highly trained dogs that won’t mess with a snake unless we tell it to. Keep up. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 9:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: No. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By frayedknot: Originally Posted By Amped: Originally Posted By MattyMattel: Coral snake? Do the jingle! Red on yellow, kill a fellow, red on black, friend of Jack. Red on yellow, friend of a fellow. Red on black, you’re dead Jack. No. That’s the problem with jingles. I had a guy say that to me when discussing snakes during a safety meeting. He genuinely thought he had it right. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:07:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexRdnec: got no problem killing a dog that needs killing, either difference is the dog isn't likely to kill me with a single bite from the cover of high grass Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexRdnec: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. got no problem killing a dog that needs killing, either difference is the dog isn't likely to kill me with a single bite from the cover of high grass Neither is a coral snake. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:23:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frayedknot: The girlie boys are the ones who are so scared of snakes they have to kill them. I bet you wear skirts and high heels on Thursdays. No that’s your wife wearing the skirt and high heels. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By urbanredneck: WTF man. Why do people kill snakes. I get invasive snakes but why a coral...? Catch it, relocate, move on... Venomous, it dies. There are plenty. But none will be on my property. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:28:56 PM EDT
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This snake thread is off the rails. I've come here to rescue it
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:29:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: How many 5' rattlesnakes do you encounter in Az? That was New Mexico, but fortunately just the one so far. A few miles down the road, one of my buddies found into one large enough he mistook it for a timber. I periodically encounter smaller black-tailed rattlers and others. If they're not near active infrastructure, it's live and let live. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. Ohhh.  Most anyone who has bitten by a coral snake had chosen to interact with it...picked it up, tried to kill it, etc. Not sure of the stats on bites, but bites causing deaths are exceedingly rare and they'd be even more rare if the person hadn't tried to kill it. Coral snake venom is neurotoxic, symptoms generally consist of localized numbness, respiratory paralysis, diplopia, dysarthria, etc. Necrosis is associated with hemotoxic pit viper envenomations. Not sure if anyone keeps stats on pets that have been envenomated by coral snakes? I've never heard of one, have you? Bottom line, you're FAR more likely to be killed or injured by Rover or Fido than a snake. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:41:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: That was New Mexico, but fortunately just the one so far. A few miles down the road, one of my buddies found into one large enough he mistook it for a timber. I periodically encounter smaller black-tailed rattlers and others. If they're not near active infrastructure, it's live and let live. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Originally Posted By azjeeper: How many 5' rattlesnakes do you encounter in Az? That was New Mexico, but fortunately just the one so far. A few miles down the road, one of my buddies found into one large enough he mistook it for a timber. I periodically encounter smaller black-tailed rattlers and others. If they're not near active infrastructure, it's live and let live. I've been herping Az for almost 50 yrs, I can count one hand how many 5' rattlers I've seen here. Out of curiosity, where (county) was the one you saw and the one your buddy saw? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:49:06 PM EDT
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Herp derp
Get it? 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: I've been herping Az for almost 50 yrs, I can count one hand how many 5' rattlers I've seen here. Out of curiosity, where (county) was the one you saw and the one your buddy saw? Both were in Grant County. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:55:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Both were in Grant County. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sabocat: Originally Posted By azjeeper: I've been herping Az for almost 50 yrs, I can count one hand how many 5' rattlers I've seen here. Out of curiosity, where (county) was the one you saw and the one your buddy saw? Both were in Grant County. I misunderstood, thought they were in Az. The largest Western Diamondback I've ever seen (5' or a bit more) was in Cochise Co., not far from the NM line. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:56:10 PM EDT
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"Black head means dead"
Good kill. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 10:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Ohhh. Most anyone who has bitten by a coral snake had chosen to interact with it...picked it up, tried to kill it, etc. Not sure of the stats on bites, but bites causing deaths are exceedingly rare and they'd be even more rare if the person hadn't tried to kill it. Coral snake venom is neurotoxic, symptoms generally consist of localized numbness, respiratory paralysis, diplopia, dysarthria, etc. Necrosis is associated with hemotoxic pit viper envenomations. Not sure if anyone keeps stats on pets that have been envenomated by coral snakes? I've never heard of one, have you? Bottom line, you're FAR more likely to be killed or injured by Rover or Fido than a snake. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By TheJudgeHolden: Corals are pretty much harmless, nice work killer. There hasn't been a human death attributed to a coral snake envenomation since....'06 I believe? Prior to that, 1967... and that genius was trying to kill it. What about pets? Dog attacks cause an average of 43 human deaths a year in the US. So since '06, about 775 people. Don't be obtuse. I was talking about pets being bitten by venomous snakes. Not pets attacking people. Furthermore. Just because there's been no "deaths" since 2006 by a coral snake, how many people have been bitten and treated due to a coral snake? How many lived but lost a limb due to necrosis? How many pets have been bitten unknowingly by there owners and they just thought they were sick because some food they ate , or may be they ate a frog, he'll be OK in a day or so. I doubt without a lot of painstaking research you can answer that. I'll do what's necessary for me and mine. Ohhh. Most anyone who has bitten by a coral snake had chosen to interact with it...picked it up, tried to kill it, etc. Not sure of the stats on bites, but bites causing deaths are exceedingly rare and they'd be even more rare if the person hadn't tried to kill it. Coral snake venom is neurotoxic, symptoms generally consist of localized numbness, respiratory paralysis, diplopia, dysarthria, etc. Necrosis is associated with hemotoxic pit viper envenomations. Not sure if anyone keeps stats on pets that have been envenomated by coral snakes? I've never heard of one, have you? Bottom line, you're FAR more likely to be killed or injured by Rover or Fido than a snake. You could be right about Fido. But fido doesn't hide under a layer of rocks that I or my wife will be moving around in the flower bed when we're (she ) is planting. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:02:06 PM EDT
[#21]
That’s an actual Coral snake.
They’re rear fang and not aggressive. I think I would have left it be, or use a stick to encourage… |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:04:34 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MedmanKS: That’s an actual Coral snake. They’re rear fang and not aggressive. I think I would have left it be, or use a stick to encourage… They are shy and reclusive, but they are an Elapid and do have short, fixed front fangs. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:07:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: They are shy and reclusive, but they are an Elapid and do have short, fixed front fangs. Not arguing, but I thought their venomous fangs were further back in the mouth. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:21:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MedmanKS: Not arguing, but I thought their venomous fangs were further back in the mouth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By azjeeper: They are shy and reclusive, but they are an Elapid and do have short, fixed front fangs. Not arguing, but I thought their venomous fangs were further back in the mouth. All Elapids have fixed front fangs, or proteroglyphous fangs. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MedmanKS: That’s an actual Coral snake. They’re rear fang and not aggressive. I think I would have left it be, or use a stick to encourage… Yes it's an actual coral snake. The real deal. And yes , I did use a stick to encourage him. But my stick had a piece of steel attached to the encouragement end. I encouraged him to be gone and to never ever come back. I think he got the message. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:35:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cavedog: "harmless venomous snake". Nope, it doesn't make any sense whether I read it or type it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cavedog: Originally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Their fangs are tiny and have to really work on envenomating a human. Good job; you killed one of the most harmless venomous snakes. "harmless venomous snake". Nope, it doesn't make any sense whether I read it or type it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:38:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: All Elapids have fixed front fangs, or proteroglyphous fangs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By azjeeper: They are shy and reclusive, but they are an Elapid and do have short, fixed front fangs. Not arguing, but I thought their venomous fangs were further back in the mouth. All Elapids have fixed front fangs, or proteroglyphous fangs. So with front fangs, he would be able to bite and inject venom easily if he were startled by uncovering his hideout under the rocks while planting in the flower bed. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:48:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: So with front fangs, he would be able to bite and inject venom easily if he were startled by uncovering his hideout under the rocks while planting in the flower bed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By MedmanKS: Originally Posted By azjeeper: They are shy and reclusive, but they are an Elapid and do have short, fixed front fangs. Not arguing, but I thought their venomous fangs were further back in the mouth. All Elapids have fixed front fangs, or proteroglyphous fangs. So with front fangs, he would be able to bite and inject venom easily if he were startled by uncovering his hideout under the rocks while planting in the flower bed. That's why you killed it, isn't it? They're shy, reclusive snakes. It'd be much more likely to flee or hide it's head than bite. |
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Posted: 4/26/2024 11:48:59 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Codyboy: So with front fangs, he would be able to bite and inject venom easily if he were startled by uncovering his hideout under the rocks while planting in the flower bed. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:08:28 AM EDT
[#30]
I stepped on one in sandals last year. I think could've dunked a basketball from a standing position with that jump.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:26:34 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Their fangs are tiny and have to really work on envenomating a human. Good job; you killed one of the most harmless venomous snakes. 
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:48:38 AM EDT
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Meh, just a coral snake. Had one in the yard a few weeks ago and stepped on it until the cats went away then let it slither off. He was pretty mad though biting at my boots, wasn’t more than 1’ long or so. Just south of College Station across the Brazos river.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 1:55:42 AM EDT
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@azjeeper
I grew up in the Sandhills of NC. I use to chase rattlesnakes into the brush as a young dumb teenager. Biggest Eastern we ever saw was nearly yellow stripe to white stripe across a road, its middle section was bicep sized. Only way we know that is because someone ran it over, we stretched it back across the road. That was early 90’s. Still not as big as some of the old black and white photos from the older folks that grew up around there. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:27:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kpel308]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shack357: The only thing cuter than stories of "one step snakes" and "two step snakes" are stories of water moccasins chasing people. Hell, with good first aid and good doctors even a taipan bite is survivable. Hey, that's what they're called. I let the guy and his brother live, after all. Then again, help was over an hour away in the best circumstances, and antivenin probably wasn't going to be available when I got there. Trying to get my Khmer troops to stop killing snakes on sight was a challenge. We did get to release a King Cobra once, but the NGO I worked for has apparently taken the video down. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:00:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigshot64: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigshot64: Originally Posted By Inquisitive_Spaniard: Their fangs are tiny and have to really work on envenomating a human. Good job; you killed one of the most harmless venomous snakes. There has been one single death from coral snakes in the last 40 years. They are virtually harmless despite having one of the worst venoms. I wouldn’t advocate trying to play patty cake with it but aggressive they are not. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 6:55:44 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sauce: Horseshit. How is killing the snake with a shovel more dangerous that picking it up, bagging it, taking it somewhere else, and releasing it for someone else to step on? "It's a matter of when not if" is also complete horseshit. Is it dozens, hundreds, or thousands of snakes dealt with before that gets to 100%? If the person who sees the snake leaves it alone, then it won't be there when someone comes to humanely relocate it. Gatekeeping basic adult skills because you are a self-styled expert is bad for society. People who get bit are people who handle snakes unnecessarily, not people at the other end of a long shovel. No one "let's their guard down" while killing the snake. You might let your guard down because you are playing with it because a bunch of idiots constantly claimed snakes are mostly harmless and you believed them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sauce: Originally Posted By Hard_Rock: The snake will move on it's way. I relocate snakes every year for several counties here and I hear from idiots all the time.. "I kIlL sNaKEs wIth a ShoVel aNd aIn'T EveR BeEn bIt." And they're right. Until their wrong. Let me explain why it's such a bad idea. A defensive bite can be a dry bite or a light envenomation. Rarely will you get a total envenomation. BUT, if you harm the snake, and it does latch on to you, which WILL happen at some point, it's not a matter of if but when... You WILL get a full envenomation. Every drop of venom that snake has. THAT is bad. Very bad. The venom of the coral snake can cause permanent damage to your nervous system and the anti-venom treatment flat out will want to make you want to die. Not to mention it's bloody expensive. On top of that, in some cases which are becoming more of the norm, insurance will not cover the treatment if they can show that you could have avoided the snake instead of harming it. I had to ID a snake that cost a guy his arm because he did exactly what you did and ended up getting tagged because he let his guard down. Turned out the guy was allergic to the venom and the Crofab they tried to use thinking it was a rattlesnake that tagged him for the damage it caused. Turns out, it was a bite from a simple northern copperhead. But hey, if that isn't enough stupid parts to what you did. On top of that, in many states, killing snakes is illegal. In some areas, eastern coral snakes are protected and harming them can carry a hefty fine. Here is the proper solution. There are free resources on Facebook and other media for free, humane snake relocation. If you are on Facebook, look up the Free Snake Relocation Directory. We do not charge to do it and there are volunteers with the knowledge and experience all over the US that will relocate the snake away from your home and it's much safer and legal. Not trying to belittle you man but killing snakes is far more dangerous than leaving them alone. I keep them as pets and I work with hots (venomous) as well as snakes that are able to eat things the size of deer. Horseshit. How is killing the snake with a shovel more dangerous that picking it up, bagging it, taking it somewhere else, and releasing it for someone else to step on? "It's a matter of when not if" is also complete horseshit. Is it dozens, hundreds, or thousands of snakes dealt with before that gets to 100%? If the person who sees the snake leaves it alone, then it won't be there when someone comes to humanely relocate it. Gatekeeping basic adult skills because you are a self-styled expert is bad for society. People who get bit are people who handle snakes unnecessarily, not people at the other end of a long shovel. No one "let's their guard down" while killing the snake. You might let your guard down because you are playing with it because a bunch of idiots constantly claimed snakes are mostly harmless and you believed them. Trying to debate otherwise is hoping the opponent in debate is more braindead than yourself. Reminds me of putting the corner of a rolled up wash cloth in the corner of the mouth of an epileptic in seizures to prevent biting the tongue. Nurse tells me not to because she will swallow it. I said how about a towel ? nope, she will swallow it. How about the corner of a rolled up blanket ? Nope they could swallow it. No common sense and can't be reasoned with. Can't think passed the book. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:00:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frayedknot: The girlie boys are the ones who are so scared of snakes they have to kill them. I bet you wear skirts and high heels on Thursdays. They squat to pee too. I bet they'll wet their panties with this image...  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:05:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hard_Rock: Dude, I see it all the time. At some point, you run a very, very high chance of getting tagged. It's not just a matter of letting your guard down, it's a matter of not understanding that chopping the head off of a snake doesn't kill it immediately. Their metabolism is slow enough that the head can survive for HOURS. I work with these animals every day. But by all means, you do your thing. When you get bit, remember, you were warned and it's not the snakes fault. You initiated the attack. Not my problem. Oh, and I'll put my knowledge and expertise up against yours any day on this topic. I deal with these animals far more than probably 99.9% of the people on this site. My pet rattlesnake. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/224/0D6A6221_jpg-3198775.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hard_Rock: Originally Posted By Sauce: Horseshit. How is killing the snake with a shovel more dangerous that picking it up, bagging it, taking it somewhere else, and releasing it for someone else to step on? "It's a matter of when not if" is also complete horseshit. Is it dozens, hundreds, or thousands of snakes dealt with before that gets to 100%? If the person who sees the snake leaves it alone, then it won't be there when someone comes to humanely relocate it. Gatekeeping basic adult skills because you are a self-styled expert is bad for society. People who get bit are people who handle snakes unnecessarily, not people at the other end of a long shovel. No one "let's their guard down" while killing the snake. You might let your guard down because you are playing with it because a bunch of idiots constantly claimed snakes are mostly harmless and you believed them. Dude, I see it all the time. At some point, you run a very, very high chance of getting tagged. It's not just a matter of letting your guard down, it's a matter of not understanding that chopping the head off of a snake doesn't kill it immediately. Their metabolism is slow enough that the head can survive for HOURS. I work with these animals every day. But by all means, you do your thing. When you get bit, remember, you were warned and it's not the snakes fault. You initiated the attack. Not my problem. Oh, and I'll put my knowledge and expertise up against yours any day on this topic. I deal with these animals far more than probably 99.9% of the people on this site. My pet rattlesnake. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/224/0D6A6221_jpg-3198775.JPG So you're a professional that handles snakes that can't be bit. Where as a non professional that kills a snake and doesn't handle it is sure to be bit. It's been a thing for as long as I remember to if you chop a head off to bury it. It's not hard. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:09:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hard_Rock: They squat to pee too. I bet they'll wet their panties with this image... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/224/19961280_10208290203852194_2855089452072-3199655.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hard_Rock: Originally Posted By frayedknot: The girlie boys are the ones who are so scared of snakes they have to kill them. I bet you wear skirts and high heels on Thursdays. They squat to pee too. I bet they'll wet their panties with this image... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/224/19961280_10208290203852194_2855089452072-3199655.JPG Move closer, I'll feed them when you go on vacation. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:12:55 PM EDT
[#40]
snake killers are fairies
just move it |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 8:53:51 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexCorriente: I'd have relocated it. Me too....straight to snake heaven with extreme prejudice. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:01:29 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By urbanredneck: Catch it, relocate, move on... An old buddy of mine would say: "F*** that noise" |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:04:10 PM EDT
[#43]
i do love that we're into personal insults now
if i squat to pee then why do i still have wet panties? seems like wasted effort and i could just piss my panties standing up while i kill snakes |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 9:17:19 PM EDT
[#44]
Good Kill, who gives a shit if it's unlikely to bite you or not there isn't any shortage of snakes around.
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:12:44 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroE: Red on yellow, make it dead.Simple. Easy to remember. In the United States. Coral snakes in South America have red bands next to black bands.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:29:49 PM EDT
[#46]
He stepped on snake.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:42:51 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC7382: @azjeeper I grew up in the Sandhills of NC. I use to chase rattlesnakes into the brush as a young dumb teenager. Biggest Eastern we ever saw was nearly yellow stripe to white stripe across a road, its middle section was bicep sized. Only way we know that is because someone ran it over, we stretched it back across the road. That was early 90’s. Still not as big as some of the old black and white photos from the older folks that grew up around there. @USMC7382 I'd love to see an Eastern in the wild, they're beasts! |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:14:23 AM EDT
[#48]
My vote is good chop!
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