NATO allies: War with Russia could come ‘very soon’

NATO faces a “pre-war era” in which “literally any scenario is possible” given the potential for aggression from Russia, according to Poland’s prime minister, the latest evidence that allies see a growing likelihood of major conflict.

“Literally any scenario is possible,” Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk told a group of journalists in a newly-published interview. “I know it sounds devastating, especially to people of the younger generation, but we have to mentally get used to a new era. We are in a pre-war era. I don’t exaggerate. This is becoming more and more apparent every day.”

Tusk is the second senior politician from a NATO member-state to suggest that the alliance faces “a pre-war world,” as British Defense Secretary Grant Shapps likewise put it in a January speech. His urgent appeal adds a center-left voice to a chorus of Russia hawks typically populated by more conservative perspectives or the Baltic state leaders who feel acutely their vulnerability to Russia.

“But I would dare to say that it is only now, in the midst of this great war, that it has dawned on all NATO leaders and senior military leaders that all this may actually be needed very soon, that there is a real threat, a real military task, and that we must behave and act in such a way that this machinery, when it is needed, is ready,” Estonian Ambassador Jüri Luik, the Baltic ally’s envoy to NATO, told an Estonian outlet in an interview published Friday. “It seems to me that this final realization has come only after the aggression began.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin denies any intention to “fight NATO” in the event that the war in Ukraine ends with a Russian victory.

“The United States’s defense spending amounts to about 40% of the global figure, or more precisely, 39%, while Russia accounts for 3.5%,” Putin said Wednesday during a visit to a Russian air base. “Considering this difference, are we planning to fight NATO? This is nonsense. We are only defending our people on our historical territories. It is therefore complete nonsense when people say that we intend to attack Europe after Ukraine.”

Those statements are no consolation for Central and Eastern European leaders given that Putin and other Russian officials lied about their intent to attack Ukraine even in the weeks just prior to the full-scale invasion. And Baltic officials, especially, are conscious that Putin regards their countries as part of the historical Russian empire. The justification for the war in Ukraine, as Putin emphasized in June 2022, also “applies to Narva,” a city in Estonia where Tsar Peter the Great won a major battle in 1704.

Why do people think Russia can put up a fight? Lol. They can’t even beat Ukraine. There will be no war with Russia. Shit, our tranny military could’ve steam rolled them in a week apparently.

Weak men, hard times.

That the same Russia that was going to steamroll Ukraine in a week?

Europe knew WW1 was coming a decade or two before it happened. They just didn’t know what the trigger was going to be

Who says it’s Russia pushing for this fight?

Fourth turning, etc.

We deserve it if some globalist ahole getting capped drags us into a war again

You mean the drunken hillbillies of Asia who started a war to "eleminate Nazis and stop NATO's expansion" but have managed to grow NATO and run up 350,000 casualties in two years?

Predicting their end game can only be accomplished by visiting a shaman in the Amazon.

The allies who are in violation of the agreement because they don't spend the agreed upon amount of their GDPs on defense? Those allies?

Putin denies as absurd the thought of invading NATO, yet only a year or two ago his aides Lavrov and Medvedev threatened doing that very thing.

Giving ATACMS to Ukraine no longer as risky, says Joint Chiefs chairman

Ukraine has been asking the United States for long-range ATACMS missiles since 2021, and the White House has consistently resisted, at least publicly. But the tide may be turning.

Thursday, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. C.Q. Brown, told reporters “the risk of escalation is not as high as maybe it was at the beginning.”

Just like the ice age, global warming, the polar caps melting, sea level rise, and COVID killing half the Earth's population... 2 more weeks.

I'm gonna get flamed for this but I just don't understand why they have such a hard on for Russia

I could speculate… but, I’m with you on this.

But, the vast majority of western Europeans are fucking pussies, the Ukrainians have displayed a huge amount of testicular fortitude that simply doesn't exist in France or Germany any longer.

Without the US, western Europe rolls over in a month or less.

Rattle those sabers all you NGO bribed shitbags, lol.  If McCain were still around he’d be screeching the loudest.

When the enemy is Russia it can’t be you own govt policies, especially in regards to immigration

That makes sense

Distraction from China and as mentioned above, our own policies are the real enemy.

But yeah. I agree with you.

I guess we Better let in another 20 million illegal "migrants" then.

Sometimes I wonder if people here are paid to shill it.

Meanwhile:...China is sitting back watching as we self destruct. Fentanyl is killing 10's of thousands a year, Chinese money buys our politicians, Chinese money funds the trans movement, Chinese money funds the pro-immigration/open borders movement, we go another trillion in debt every 100 days, and China is quietly acquiring and consolidating massive resources in Africa and elsewhere.

But please tell me how Russia is our #1 enemy, I would barely put them in the top 10 of USA's actual major threats or concerns, and they make that list only because of their nuclear arsenal.

Its total bullshit the politicians are using to dupe the citizens.

If they were serious, they would be ramping up production and creating armies. Not one single EU country has even lifted a finger about any of that yet.

To put is even worse. The head of the entire fucking EU is Ursla-von-fuckface from Germany. Her only accomplishment and the one she bragged about was destroying Germanys military.  She is a full fledged commie.

I think its safe to say, the EU has bought less ammunition in the past year than the collective that makes up Arfcom. They are not going to go to war with anybody., they cant.

You haven’t been paying attention.

A whole bunch of NATO countries are going balls deep on production and procurement.

Poland is building a VERY impressive military. The Baltics are doing what they can with limited resources. Finland is buying F35s and asking for American basing.

Russia has managed to freak out most of their neighbors.

This.

Good connection with the mass immigration cultists.

Maybe they want to kill two birds with one stone: Hasten the destruction of western euorpe and north america, and destroy the russian federation, unlocking siberia as a global warming promised land for migration.

There will be no NATO war with russia if the US tells europe they are going to have to go it alone. Europe will never go to war without the US to do all the heavy work and a huge part of the financial spending and blood loss.

Poland started to do something, but not sure what this new govt will go.

I pay attention, the rest are all talk which is the only thing lower than at least lifting a finger.

Historically speaking, the French are the only ones that take war preparations seriously.  Everyone else will just wheedle and whinge until they start dying.

(I mean except of course Germany) They will likely pop out of a hole with Swiss made ICBMs and nerve gas.

We are being pitted against each other . While the rest of the world looks on . We are being played .

Poland is one of the only countries worth a military shit in Europe nowadays.

I would say Finland takes it seriously as well, along with the Baltics. It seems that proximity to Russia makes people serious about national defense.

Russia isn't fighting ukraine, they are fighting your country & ukraine...

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There is not going to be a war between NATO and Russia.  Period.  Full Stop.   The only war that would ever be between the two would be Nuclear.   Frankly I don't care if the entire lot of us on this planet are vaporized or not.  My personal belief is it is long past time that God started over with something better than us.   Yes this site and those of us on it is a speck of dust in the grand scheme of things.  But look at how many people on here "get off" watching people die.   And I don't doubt a second many of them are jerking off watching that stuff.   What does that say about humanity?  No matter how small a % it is represented on here.  

Humans treat each other worse than animals treat each other.    We have all outlived our usefulness.   Have a nice day.  

Good thing the adults are back in charge!

This is exactly where I'm at.

seems to me, FJB is bought and paid for by China.
Russia is either just a convenient distraction OR a continuation of Hillary's BS to try to get elected (that in fact, was a distraction from her email server shit).

I have no doubt that Ukraine also has their teeth into FJB as evidenced by the second impeachment just because of a supposed phone call.

All the while, China is preparing for the coming war.

1) relaxed trade agreements compared to Trump
2) spy balloons allowed to transverse the country
3) unimpeded landing of Chinese forces
4) purchase and set up of FOBs within the country
5) uncontrolled fentanyl poisoning of the population

All the while the governments of most western countries are dry heaving about Russia that can't even break it off in their next door neighbor that has 1 tenth the ground forces.

Russia will use nukes before they allow defeat on their doorstep of one of their rebel states. Putin has already said that.

They have over 3000 nukes. If only 1/2 of them launch due to age then that's 1500 nukes heading for Europe and the US. If we shoot down 1/2 of them then over 700 make it to target and each of those carry 12-15 warheads each of which are about 100 times stronger than the nukes dropped on Japan.

So for those cheerleading a possible nuclear war keep in mind that everything and everyone you know will be vaporized and those will be the lucky ones.

Why is NATO going to war over a non NATO nation?

Because they’re catching heat for encouraging it.

Your avatar is Cucker Carlson, so that makes sense.

The adult diapers are back in charge…the media left that word out.

Globalists want war:

1) Hide economic woes (fiat is dying) (sustain the fractional reserve banking system's brrrrrrrrrrr! and its fiat currency)
2) Impose repressive laws to suppor the war effort
3) Depopulation
4) Git rich at our expense!

Except our ambassador to Poland is the son of one of the biggest globalist shills and Russia warhawks to have ever walked the planet, Zbiggy Brzezinski.

No doubt they'll get what they want...

Out of Chaos...Order

Global problems need global solutions...

Which is why the solutions were dreamed up first and then the problems that lead to those solutions was dreamed next...

Thesis Antithesis Synthesis

Maybe they will actually spend what is required to be a part of NATO but I won't hold my breath.

Round up all the illegals.
Send them to ukraine to fight the russians.

Kill two birds with one stone.