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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:45:02 PM EDT
My daily driver/work vehicle is a Dodge Durango R/T AWD that I’ve had for 8 years. I had the original brake pads replaced for the first time at 143,000 miles. That is amazing to me in a big, heavy SUV that I drive pretty hard.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:01:26 PM EDT
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Must be out in the flat western part of KY
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:02:49 PM EDT
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Hawk LTS pads cut the stopping distance of my Tacoma by half. They're fucking magic.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:03:09 PM EDT
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I got a Ford E250 van that I haven't done the brakes on in 4 years.
I find that to be amazing as well.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:13:28 PM EDT
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Depends on the car.

My daughter's 2020 Subaru Impreza is at 46k miles and still has plenty of life left on the original pads and rotors look good.

My '18 bmw has their basic brakes and went 56k on the front pads and 62k on the rear pads, rotors were fine.  Car is at 79k now.  Will probably do pads and rotors front and back around 100k just for fun.

My '19 bmw has the M-brakes.  The rears pads and rotors went around 50k.  The front pads went at 22k.  The replacement front pads and original rotors went at 53k.  I'm at 58k on it now.  The front pads are $80 and takes less than an hour to change.

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:18:57 PM EDT
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I drive 85% highway miles and haven't had to change a set of pads on any of my modern vehicles since 09. None of them are even close to needing new pads. Two are over 100K and one is just shy of 90k.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:29:12 PM EDT
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I'm about 236k on the original pads.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:33:50 PM EDT
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My sons joke that they’ll never learn to change rear brake pads.
The wife and i go through front pads way more frequently than we should.
Suburban and Ram.  
We drive ‘em like we stole ‘em.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:38:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
My sons joke that they'll never learn to change rear brake pads.
The wife and i go through front pads way more frequently than we should.
Suburban and Ram.  
We drive 'em like we stole 'em.
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Many modern cars can selectively bias the brake pressure.

Used to be the rear pads lasted a lot longer than the fronts.

Now they can be electronically biased to put increased pressure on the rear brakes which helps prevent nosediving under heavy braking.

What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:38:37 PM EDT
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I have a 2015 F150 140,000 with original fronts. Backs been serviced twice.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:39:08 PM EDT
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I'm sure modern pads help, but driving habits help even more!
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:14:08 PM EDT
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How vehicle is driven. The longer and harder those pedals are pushed down directly relates to cost per mile.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:15:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rebel31:

Many modern cars can selectively bias the brake pressure.

Used to be the rear pads lasted a lot longer than the fronts.

Now they can be electronically biased to put increased pressure on the rear brakes which helps prevent nosediving under heavy braking.

What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.
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Originally Posted By Rebel31:
Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
My sons joke that they'll never learn to change rear brake pads.
The wife and i go through front pads way more frequently than we should.
Suburban and Ram.  
We drive 'em like we stole 'em.

Many modern cars can selectively bias the brake pressure.

Used to be the rear pads lasted a lot longer than the fronts.

Now they can be electronically biased to put increased pressure on the rear brakes which helps prevent nosediving under heavy braking.

What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.

How do you do this?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:18:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cooper1:

How do you do this?
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Originally Posted By Cooper1:
Originally Posted By Rebel31:
Originally Posted By HELOBRAVO:
My sons joke that they'll never learn to change rear brake pads.
The wife and i go through front pads way more frequently than we should.
Suburban and Ram.  
We drive 'em like we stole 'em.

Many modern cars can selectively bias the brake pressure.

Used to be the rear pads lasted a lot longer than the fronts.

Now they can be electronically biased to put increased pressure on the rear brakes which helps prevent nosediving under heavy braking.

What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.

How do you do this?

Do what?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:19:58 PM EDT
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My dad changed the original front brake pads on his 2000 F-250 SuperDuty because it 100K miles last year. They still had plenty of life left.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:28:07 PM EDT
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2011 Honda Pilot
80k - front pads and rotors
92k - rear pads
140k - front pads and rotors

On both front pad/rotor changes above, there was still some pad life left, but they were starting to pulsate when they got hot from time to time.


2007 F150
110k - Rear pads and rotors
160k - Front pads, rotors, calipers, hoses.
200k on it now
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:28:51 PM EDT
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I changed the fronts on my Ram at 185k.  The rears are still original.  Mostly highway miles and it's lived a pretty easy life.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:29:24 PM EDT
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2009 Ram 1500.  227000 miles.  Still on the original pads.  Thought they might need changing back in '17;  they didn't, but I broke my back in the process... go figure.

Still have the replacement pads though.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:30:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rebel31:
What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.
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I just did a Honda accord with this feature, but you can just remove the electronic parking brake solenoid from the caliper, and screw the rear pad actuator all the way back in and change the pad like any other system.

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:33:43 PM EDT
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2012 pathfinder gets pads about every 30k miles pretty regularly for the entire 200k miles so far.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:47:56 PM EDT
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Stock pads on my F-250, pretty decent amount of heavy towing, 27k+/- on it and everything looks perfectly fine. I was going to put a big brake kit on it but at this point I'm thinking I'll wait a little while more.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:01:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Hawk LTS pads cut the stopping distance of my Tacoma by half. They're fucking magic.
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G-Loc R12 pads are magic on my track car. However, they only last ~400 track miles. I’m amazed at how well they stop no matter how hard I beat on them.

Modern brake compounds are light years ahead of stuff from just a decade ago.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:02:59 PM EDT
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6 piston Brembos are awesome too
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:07:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FALARAK:


I just did a Honda accord with this feature, but you can just remove the electronic parking brake solenoid from the caliper, and screw the rear pad actuator all the way back in and change the pad like any other system.

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Originally Posted By FALARAK:
Originally Posted By Rebel31:
What got me doing the rears on our CX-5 was the electronic parking brake. You have to set it to be in service mode which retracts the parking brake pad all the way in.


I just did a Honda accord with this feature, but you can just remove the electronic parking brake solenoid from the caliper, and screw the rear pad actuator all the way back in and change the pad like any other system.


As far as I can tell on the CX-5 it's mandatory to put it in service mode to do the rear brakes. If you don't put it in service mode first the parking brake can extend all the way out which requires dealership service to reset it.

https://www.hella.com/techworld/us/bi/Mazda-CX5-maintenance-mode-electromechanical-parking-brake-64143/
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:10:32 PM EDT
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That’s nice. My 2500hd Chevy went 258k on the rears. At 265k now still on original fronts.

Atleast half the miles were with cabover camper towing boat that had no trailer brakes working. And toy hauler with trailer brakes.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:12:17 PM EDT
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Saturday before last, I changed the rotors and pads on my wife's Rav4 at 130,000.
They needed it.  
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:27:59 PM EDT
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Set the parking brake to service mode.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:32:47 PM EDT
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New cars often need the rotors turned for runout before the pads wear out.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:33:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cooper1:

Set the parking brake to service mode.
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Originally Posted By Cooper1:
Originally Posted By Rebel31:

Do what?

Set the parking brake to service mode.

I posted the link above
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:48:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
New cars often need the rotors turned for runout replaced with quality rotors before the pads wear out.
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FIFY
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:54:14 PM EDT
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The pad material is pretty good nowdays.

Messing with all those springs in the rear drums is a pain, though.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:06:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FALARAK:
2011 Honda Pilot
80k - front pads and rotors
92k - rear pads
140k - front pads and rotors

On both front pad/rotor changes above, there was still some pad life left, but they were starting to pulsate when they got hot from time to time.


2007 F150
110k - Rear pads and rotors
160k - Front pads, rotors, calipers, hoses.
200k on it now
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We have a 2012 and I have changed the rotors 4 times between 110,000 and 278,000 miles.  The Bosch heavy rotor has seemed to last longer.  Glad that I am not the only one.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:07:09 PM EDT
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I was just thinking that it’s odd that my F450 work truck is still on original pads and rotors at 140,000.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:14:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluebayou:

We have a 2012 and I have changed the rotors 4 times between 110,000 and 278,000 miles.  The Bosch heavy rotor has seemed to last longer.  Glad that I am not the only one.
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Originally Posted By bluebayou:
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
2011 Honda Pilot
80k - front pads and rotors
92k - rear pads
140k - front pads and rotors

On both front pad/rotor changes above, there was still some pad life left, but they were starting to pulsate when they got hot from time to time.


2007 F150
110k - Rear pads and rotors
160k - Front pads, rotors, calipers, hoses.
200k on it now

We have a 2012 and I have changed the rotors 4 times between 110,000 and 278,000 miles.  The Bosch heavy rotor has seemed to last longer.  Glad that I am not the only one.

I installed some cheaper Raybestos the first time.  They were weird - after they got older, I'd get them hot in heavy traffic and they would pulse.  Next day they would be fine.

This time (5k miles ago) I installed Centric coated rotors and Akebono pads which are my go-to.  We will see how they do.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:20:59 PM EDT
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Toyotas eat pads.
Dodge 1500s eat pads.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:26:29 PM EDT
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Ex wife's 2006 caliber was over 250k and the pads weren't even half worn. It was still on the original cvt, too. She touched those pedals like they were covered in broken glass and she was barefoot. I finally changed the pads because I figured the bonding would fail sooner or later.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:27:00 PM EDT
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Yep. 144,000 miles and still on my original brake pads, 2016 Ram 4x4 1500.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:27:58 PM EDT
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Friend of mine put 260,000 on a 2014 Silverado, traded it in with the original pads and rotors still on it
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:32:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Hawk LTS pads cut the stopping distance of my Tacoma by half. They're fucking magic.
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I fricken loved Hawk HPS on my Mazda, so I put Hawk LTS on my Tacoma... Loved the performance, but holy crap were they noisy
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:39:46 PM EDT
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Mrs Rabinowitz’s 2018 Santa Fe has 91,000 on the original pads.

The rotors are as smooth as a virgin’s behind.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:41:24 PM EDT
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My ford transit connect went 130k on a set of pads. Still had a little left but I changed them anyway.

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:52:30 PM EDT
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I fricken loved Hawk HPS on my Mazda, so I put Hawk LTS on my Tacoma... Loved the performance, but holy crap were they noisy
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Originally Posted By ManMan:
Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Hawk LTS pads cut the stopping distance of my Tacoma by half. They're fucking magic.


I fricken loved Hawk HPS on my Mazda, so I put Hawk LTS on my Tacoma... Loved the performance, but holy crap were they noisy

That's weird, I'm on set #2 now and haven't had a squeak. My only complaint is they're dirty, but so is the rest of my truck so who cares?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:57:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:57:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter:
Toyotas eat pads.
Dodge 1500s eat pads.
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Toyotas on 35’s driven by a lead foot especially
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:59:04 PM EDT
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Google your car make and model.

Usually there is a manual way to set the rear ebrake in service mode.

I think in the Dodges, it's some menu on the touchscreen you need to find.

With my BMWs, I use an app called bimmerlink.

Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:08:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:

That's weird, I'm on set #2 now and haven't had a squeak. My only complaint is they're dirty, but so is the rest of my truck so who cares?
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Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Originally Posted By ManMan:
Originally Posted By LoBrau:
Hawk LTS pads cut the stopping distance of my Tacoma by half. They're fucking magic.


I fricken loved Hawk HPS on my Mazda, so I put Hawk LTS on my Tacoma... Loved the performance, but holy crap were they noisy

That's weird, I'm on set #2 now and haven't had a squeak. My only complaint is they're dirty, but so is the rest of my truck so who cares?


I don't know why,  but the front LTS pads did not have anti-squeal backings like the rear.  Same on the Dodge 3500  LTS pads I bought
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:12:24 PM EDT
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the sound will tell you when
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:14:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
My daily driver/work vehicle is a Dodge Durango R/T AWD that I’ve had for 8 years. I had the original brake pads replaced for the first time at 143,000 miles. That is amazing to me in a big, heavy SUV that I drive pretty hard.
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Hmmmmmmm.  No salt on roads in KY.  The calipers always go (seize) before the pads go up in these parts.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:41:16 PM EDT
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As long as we're on the topic of brakes, slight hijack, anyone have anything good or bad to say about "Detroit Axle" replacement disks and pads?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082VV8Q2S?tag=arfcom00-20
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:47:18 PM EDT
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2007 Honda civic hybrid 155000 mile on front pads/rotors,
2012 Toyota Camry hybrid 170000 Miles’s on front pads/rotors,
2022 Toyota tundra 16000 miles needed new rotors, replaced pads also.
2016 Chevy Silverado 118000 miles front pads/rotors
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