Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF:

As far as I can tell , they do . It seems almost every single entity they are involved in is aimed squarely at the destruction of western values , in my humble opinion. I could cite sources but I would be here for days doing so .

Originally Posted By olivers_AR:

Does that mean the illegal immigrant new voting block is now larger than the Jewish vote?  

When FJB cuts spending on Israeli and has boots on the ground and allows for humanitarian reasons legal immigration from Palestine, I don't want to hear it if they continue to vote Dem.

Originally Posted By HecklerKac:


They have the right to be anti christian if they want.

Its just gross that some christians bend over backwards to support them. The boomer worship of Israel is disgusting.

Originally Posted By brownbomber:
LOL

Originally Posted By Cypher15:
American Jews, in large part, are secular.  Its just a badge of sorts.  They dont actually care if Muslims slaughter the religious. Govt is their religion

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
The article is about one specific issue, the Israel and Hamas war.

I personally believe Trump would have been better than Biden on this at supporting Israel, but it’s just speculation.

Originally Posted By deadmau5er:
Jewish people really need to start classifying themselves in subgroups.

Out of the hundreds of post-Soviet Jews who came to the US I've met/known/still know in NYC, every single one would kill themselves before they voted for a dem.

The super westernized/atheist/progresso Jews from Hollywood and shit are hated by actual Jewish people.

Originally Posted By jackthom8:
Jewish Americans appear to remain strongly behind President Biden in his handling of the war between Israel and Hamas even as he bleeds support from some other groups.

The administration’s response has drawn criticism from some segments of the public and led to concern that it could hurt his standing in the polls for the November election, especially with young voters and Arab Americans.

But polls have shown that Jewish Americans, who largely consider themselves Democrats, overwhelmingly back Biden’s handling of the war in his support for Israel’s right to self-defense and condemnation of the Oct. 7 attack and antisemitism.

“There could not be a stronger leader more aligned with the interests of the Jewish community than President Joe Biden,” said Halie Soifer, the CEO of the Jewish Democratic Council of America.

“He has not only stood by Israel in his unequivocal condemnation of terror, support of Israel’s security and its right to self-defense, but he has also pledged that he supports the American Jewish community as it faces this rising scourge of hate,” she continued.

Biden has found himself in a difficult situation politically as the war has raged on, as voters express strong feelings for both the Israeli and Palestinian causes.

A New York Times/Siena College poll found only 33 percent of voters approved of Biden’s handling of the war. The results of the poll reveal conflicting sentiments among those who disapprove, with a third saying Biden has been too supportive of Israel and almost the same amount saying he has been too supportive of the Palestinians.

An NBC News poll from November found just half of Democrats approve of Biden’s handling of the war, while 70 percent of voters age 18 to 34 disapprove.

But Jewish voters have been an exception, giving the president high marks for his navigation of the war and fight against antisemitism, which has seen a sharp rise since the war began.

A poll from the nonpartisan Jewish Electorate Institute found in November that nearly three-quarters of Jewish voters support Biden’s handling of the war. An age gap in support still exists, but a slight majority of the youngest Jewish voters said they support his handling.

Soifer said the way Biden has handled the conflict will “only solidify” what is already a strong base of support for him among Jewish voters. More than 7 in 10 Jewish voters backed Biden in the 2020 election.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385816-jewish-american-support-for-biden-stands-firm-amid-israel-hamas-war/

Originally Posted By deadmau5er:
Jewish people really need to start classifying themselves in subgroups.

Out of the hundreds of post-Soviet Jews who came to the US I've met/known/still know in NYC, every single one would kill themselves before they voted for a dem.

The super westernized/atheist/progresso Jews from Hollywood and shit are hated by actual Jewish people.

Originally Posted By R2point0:
Given how Christians have treated them over the millennia?  I'd have a case of ass over it too.

Originally Posted By R2point0:
Given how Christians have treated them over the millennia?  I'd have a case of ass over it too.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


They aren’t voting for “free shit”.

They are voting against people who think and say

“They are not our friend, believe me…They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Human nature:  no matter how much you might agree with someone on policy, most won’t vote for someone who treats you like crap and says stuff like that.  Some voting is based on logic, but much on feels.

The right would be surprised if they stated treating hispanics well.  They’d win them over quickly.

Not the same with Jews.  Just the opposite.  Jews are generally treated well enough by the right, but lean differently on policy.  They are also treated well enough by the left.  At least Biden, so that doesn’t sway their feels.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


They aren’t voting for “free shit”.

They are voting against people who think and say

“They are not our friend, believe me…They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Human nature:  no matter how much you might agree with someone on policy, most won’t vote for someone who treats you like crap and says stuff like that.  Some voting is based on logic, but much on feels.

The right would be surprised if they stated treating hispanics well.  They’d win them over quickly.

Not the same with Jews.  Just the opposite.  Jews are generally treated well enough by the right, but lean differently on policy.  They are also treated well enough by the left.  At least Biden, so that doesn’t sway their feels.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


I’d guess Democrats.  

Republican strategy towards hispanics has been beyond retarded.  They can’t get past calling them mean names.  If you treat people like crap, they won’t vote for you, even if they agree with you on policy.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


I’d guess Democrats.  

Republican strategy towards hispanics has been beyond retarded.  They can’t get past calling them mean names.  If you treat people like crap, they won’t vote for you, even if they agree with you on policy.

Originally Posted By C3H5N3O9:
This is why I laugh at people that say Hispanics and Latinos are natural conservatives and will vote R if only the right messaging was used.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


I don’t think you’re in a position to be a buyer.  But it is the internet, so who knows.  Perhaps you are a high ranking Republican politician.

I lived and worked with illegals my whole young life, and moved to Mexico and lived there, so I am just sharing my experience, out of interest and making conversation.  

Every single Mexican I worked with building fence and pouring concrete loved pickup trucks, guns, had “machismo”/traditional gender ideas, and believed in hard work and God.  Sounds right wing to me.

I don’t really expect you or anyone on here to actually be a decision maker in any of this.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


The Jewish voting block is tiny - 2.2%

Also not easily swayed.  Total waste of time to try to get them to vote Republican.

Originally Posted By odiedodi:
If they were given voting rights, yeah. Jews have never been a large voting block in the US. Israel pandering has always been more about capturing the Evangelical vote than the Jewish vote. Other than Orthodox Jews, they tend to be more split on Israel than Evangelicals are anyway. Of course, courting wealthy donors and PACs like AIPAC do matter too.

Originally Posted By HecklerKac:



I have the same observation.

They have the right to be anti christian if they want.

Its just gross that some christians bend over backwards to support them. The boomer worship of Israel is disgusting.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


No “group” is a monolith.

Easy way to illustrate:  when some loser shoots up a school, the left says “gun owners are bad, we need to ban guns”.

No, one loser was bad.  The rest of us are nothing like that.

People seem to understand this when it applies to them, but then say “all Mexicans” or “all Blacks”.  It’s really showing their ass.

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
The article is about one specific issue, the Israel and Hamas war.

I personally believe Trump would have been better than Biden on this at supporting Israel, but it’s just speculation.

Originally Posted By R2point0:
Biden chose wisely: there may be more voters who are against supporting Israel, but the ones who do donate more money.

Originally Posted By HBIII:


Funny, the article didn’t mention only the atheist ones…

Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


Ummm.. Hispanics are mostly Catholic and anti-abortion, traditional gender roles, etc.

Most American Jews are progressive (not using term politically).

You’re comparing apples to oranges.

Maybe another way to say it:  most Hispanics already believe everything you do, most Jews don’t.

Originally Posted By macaho45:
90% vote left.  This isn't a surprise.

Originally Posted By BooJangles:

They are conservative when it comes to family values, but they will vote for free shit in a heart beat.