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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:06:41 AM EDT
Inside Trump’s plan to deport ‘nearly 20 million’ illegal migrants from the US


Inside Trump’s plan to deport ‘nearly 20 million’ illegal migrants from the US
By Social Links forDiana Glebova
Published May 5, 2024, 1:43 p.m. ET
Donald Trump has vowed to deliver the “largest mass deportation effort” in American history if he gets back into office next year, targeting millions of illegal migrants across the country.

The 45th president has frequently spoken about his deportation agenda, and recently indicated in a TIME Magazine interview that he would leverage local law enforcement, the National Guard and the military to carry out his plan — similar to the dragnet-style sweeps of “Operation Wetback” under former President Dwight Eisenhower that shipped more than 1 million migrants out in 1954.

The Trump 2024 campaign has not gotten into the details of what resources would be needed to find, detain and deport the “nearly 20 million” illegal migrants they say are currently in the US.

But carrying out an operation that large would require a massive expansion of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, collaboration with the State Department and a boost in funding from Congress, former ICE officials tell The Post.

The 20 million claim from the Trump campaign is “not an unreasonable estimate” given the fluctuations and record-breaking number of migrants entering the US under the Biden administration, Eric Ruark, NumbersUSA’s director of research, told The Post.

“There’s probably between 15 and 20 million, given the number of people we’ve seen coming over,” Ruark said, contrasting with the official estimate of 11 million from the US Census Bureau.

Tom Homan, former acting director of ICE under Trump, said the agency has “systems in place that are very good at identifying people,” but the speed of the deportations would depend on the resources on hand.

“A lot of that is going to be up to Congress … We need officers, we need detention beds, we need transportation contracts … because [we would have] more flights heading out of the country and more bus removals down to the border,” Homan said.

“We would still prioritize criminals and national security threats first, they are the most dangerous for the country.” he added. “But I would say no one is off the table. If you’re in this country illegally… then we’ll remove you.”

Asked by The Post whether he would go back to work in a second Trump term, Homan said he would “strongly consider” taking a job if asked.

Jon Feere, former ICE chief of staff under Trump, said “there’s no doubt that ICE would benefit from a significant increase in officers, agents and detention space” and that a Trump administration would “undoubtedly” make that request known to Congress.

But, Feere argued, ICE already has the capacity to detain more migrants than are currently being held under the Biden administration.

“This effort will likely include city-wide operations where officers from different parts of the country are brought in to conduct work site investigations and make arrests within the course of weeks within in any given jurisdiction,” he added.

“This will require a whole government approach,” Feere went on. “Every part of the government that has a nexus to immigration has a role to play here. From Health and Human Services, to the State Department, to US Citizenship and Immigration Services, every part of the government can assist in reducing illegal immigration.

Feere also said that “I’m sure I will be” involved “in some capacity” if Trump takes office, but did not say what role he might play.

Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:08:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ctfish15] [#1]
It really is a shitload of people. Biden has been working so hard to bring them in.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:08:42 AM EDT
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Congress and/or Hawaii judge would halt it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:10:13 AM EDT
[#3]
I wonder if he would take volunteers to help
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:13:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Fake news with no other purpose than to shock people.

City wide sweeps….. lol
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:13:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
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Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:14:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By phatmax:



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport
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Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:19:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: twistedcomrade] [#7]
Cut any government benefits to them to zero, pay nothing to schools where their illegal kids go, fine the fuck out of fuckheads who employee them, make hospitals turn them away if they can't pay, and arrest any judge that tries to halt this.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:23:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:


Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.
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This is the way
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:23:34 AM EDT
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Send them to Gaza.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:26:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ctfish15:
It really is a shitload of people. Biden has been working so hard to bring them in.
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Biden working with  Catholic charities and other church groups? Because they are responsible to a huge amount of them
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:26:51 AM EDT
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I bet 20 million is less than half of the illegals in the country now
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:26:55 AM EDT
[#12]
In 2016 he was going to deport all of them, then didn't. How will he do it this time?


"We have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. They will go out. They will come back   some will come back, the best, through a process. They have to come back legally. They have to come back through a process, and it may not be a very quick process, but I think that's very fair, and very fine."
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:28:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc] [#13]
every politicians says whatever it takes to get elected and then does whatever their bosses want once they are?

so are Trump's bosses...the expectation is that he is his own boss...

Then there's the feet dragging or outright hostile bureaucrats that are tasked with carrying out an elected officials plan
an official they know will be gone in 4 yrs...at most...
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:29:19 AM EDT
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“Collaboration with the State Department “ is the laughable part. Oh yes - I’m sure that bunch of bureaucrats will get right on that.  



Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:30:16 AM EDT
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I think Texas thumbing their nose at SCOTUS changed things.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:34:05 AM EDT
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His efforts will be branded as racist and pilloried in the media restlessly as destroying the nation.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:37:59 AM EDT
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2016 Trump versus reality (politifact.com 2018):
August 2016: Candidate Trump promises to ‘immediately terminate’ DACA

Trump’s 10-point immigration plan said he would end DACA and another program directed at parents of U.S.-born children and lawful permanent residents.

"We will immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the Constitution to give amnesty to approximately five million illegal immigrants, five million," Trump said.

Post-2016 election: Trump warms on DACA as president-elect

Trump seemed to soften his stance after the election. He told Time magazine that he wanted to work out something for Dreamers that would make people "happy and proud."

"They got brought here at a very young age, they've worked here, they've gone to school here. Some were good students. Some have wonderful jobs. And they're in never-never land because they don't know what's going to happen," Trump said in November.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:39:15 AM EDT
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“Hawaii Judge has made his law, now let him enforce it until SCOTUS tells me he is right.”
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:40:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
I bet 20 million is less than half of the illegals in the country now
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Probably closer to a third, I'd say.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:40:17 AM EDT
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Anyone who has ever been to Southern California knows the numbers are hopeful at best.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:43:27 AM EDT
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Yeah, and he put Hilary in jail too.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:43:35 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:43:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
Congress and/or Hawaii judge would halt it.
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Do what the democrats are doing, just ignore them.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:46:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ctfish15:
It really is a shitload of people. Biden has been working so hard to bring them in.
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it's an invasion, a planned invasion, foing according to plan

any further discussion of the matter is mere obfuscation
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:47:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:


Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.
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Originally Posted By phatmax:



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport


Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.


I’m okay with this.  And stop food, housing and social subsidies.  They’d have no choice but to go back.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:47:56 AM EDT
[#26]
There's no way those 20 million law abiding ILLEGAL aliens would dare to vote illegally for the party that welcomes them.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:49:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
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This.

It will never happen. Maybe some that are caught committing felonies, but the rest, they ain't going anywhere.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:50:47 AM EDT
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Never happening.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:51:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By pale_pony:

it's an invasion, a planned invasion, foing according to plan

any further discussion of the matter is mere obfuscation
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Globalist replacement plan

America and consequently Americans of a certain kind are an anathema/impediment to their world government plan.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:51:35 AM EDT
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There is no need to deport. Simply criminalize the employment, housing, feeding and medical treatment of illegal aliens.

The minute you start fining businesses millions of dollars and jailing CEOs and clergy, all of this stops.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:52:40 AM EDT
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Use organized crime statutes to prosecute NGO’s, to include Catholic Charities and the like. Pay a cash bounty on illegal aliens.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:53:15 AM EDT
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They can get deported too.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:53:20 AM EDT
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Export them too.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:54:39 AM EDT
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Do what the democrats are doing, just ignore them.
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R's don't have the balls to do that.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:55:28 AM EDT
[#36]
It’s all posturing as Trump has zero chance of winning the election.

Ironically, Trump has much greater odds of being in prison than winning the election in November.  That’s the country we have become.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:56:20 AM EDT
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NGO boards and staff must be arrested for human trafficking charges. Bury them under the jail.

Any employers hiring them, get the same treatment.

Tips hotline should offer bounties.

Judge in Hawaii doesn't like it? Someone gag him. Fucker has no authority to speak outside of his jurisdiction
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:57:26 AM EDT
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Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.
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Originally Posted By phatmax:



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport


Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.


All good plans, but require a cooperative Congress and Deep State bureaucracies.  Hard to do.

Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:57:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By phatmax:



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport
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Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot:
Congress and/or Hawaii judge would halt it.



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport

Sounds like a plan.  Along with the labor enforcement add in a significantly increased penalty for employers.  Seize remissions sent by people here illegally to, in a small way, fund their own removal.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:06:59 AM EDT
[#40]



Red Meat

Won't happen
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:13:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ctfish15:
It really is a shitload of people. Biden has been working so hard to bring them in.
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xiden has really fucked us and we actually have members here giddy as hell about his election and possible re-election.    


Getting the illegals out will be 100% harder and more expensive than getting them in and the commies in charge know this.  
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:13:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Pure wishful thinking.   There’s no chance that will happen.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:14:30 AM EDT
[#43]
This will probably end up like arresting Clinton.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:19:57 AM EDT
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This will probably end up like arresting Clinton.
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Please tell us what arrest powers that the President has.
We will wait for your intelligent response.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:22:02 AM EDT
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This.  50 million would not surprise me.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:26:19 AM EDT
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Years ago one city did a "sting" to round up many people that skipped out on their court appearance dates.
They sent them a letter saying that they won a big screen TV and all they had to do was show up at this warehouse address to collect their prize.
Hundreds showed up and were led into a big waiting room to "receive their free TV".
Only to have the doors locked and law enforcement take them away one at a time.
No need to waste time serving a warrent where the perps wouldn't come to the door.
Same could be done to the illegals.
Simples
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:38:51 AM EDT
[#47]
I wish him luck and hope he's successful.  Everyone knows there's no way 20 million of those fuckers are getting kicked out!
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:42:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Former11BRAVO:


Probably closer to a third, I'd say.
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
I bet 20 million is less than half of the illegals in the country now


Probably closer to a third, I'd say.

I was going to say make it 60million deported,  and I'd be happy .
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:43:33 AM EDT
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Yep.  The real number is staggering.


I don't know how it happened but after hurricane Katrina, they were suddenly everywhere in the New Orleans area.  Probably came there to find work rebuilding.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:43:42 AM EDT
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All good plans, but require a cooperative Congress and Deep State bureaucracies.  Hard to do.

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Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR:
Originally Posted By phatmax:



Of course. The best method would be: close the border

stopping/taxing the fuck out of remissions

cut benefits to basically zero

No drivers licenses

Real labor enforcement

Real crime enforcement

They would self deport


Destroy any business knowingly employing illegals.


All good plans, but require a cooperative Congress and Deep State bureaucracies.  Hard to do.


Deport deep state
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