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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:10:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FloridaMan11b]
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A thief is a thief.
Thought maybe he took it on accident but the video shows him teasing the pen out the window as he drove off with it so he FAFO. Fuck thieves. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:10:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattellis2: So if you take my pen, and I break your leg, it's cool, yes? The thug is the guy that is wearing the badge and his boss hog boss that backs him up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattellis2: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Can be sued for about anything these days. Surprised so many support thugs here. So if you take my pen, and I break your leg, it's cool, yes? The thug is the guy that is wearing the badge and his boss hog boss that backs him up. Because that's all that happened right? The guy took the cops pen and then the cop just snapped his leg. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:11:55 AM EDT
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I worked on the motorcycle squad with a guy that had just transferred back, from temporarily working in a precinct. I asked him why he had to take a “sabbatical “? Told me he stopped a violator, wrote the ticket and asked the violator to sign, which he did. As the violator handed him the ticket book back, and his pen, he dropped the pen, deliberately. I asked him what did you do? He said he made the violator pick it up. With his lips. Things are different now.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:12:47 AM EDT
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As the owner of a Tactile Turn pen that I use every single day , I understand. I like my pen . These days at work I carry two pens , my pen and the one that I Iet every one else use because apparently nobody carries pens .
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:13:15 AM EDT
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 I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:13:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. Kiss that boot just a little harder 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:14:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: John Wick used pencils.  Martin Blank used a pen. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:14:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mach1soldier]
[#8]
Hard to support police when you see things like this.
Apparently everyone is taught proportional response except police. I get he was taunting him but emotional responses equivalent to a teenagers response is sad. What’s really Funny is all my family that are cops have the same rule. Ghetto pens to hand offenders, nice pen to fill out reports. Never mix the two. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:14:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattellis2: So if you take my pen, and I break your leg, it's cool, yes? The thug is the guy that is wearing the badge and his boss hog boss that backs him up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattellis2: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Can be sued for about anything these days. Surprised so many support thugs here. So if you take my pen, and I break your leg, it's cool, yes? The thug is the guy that is wearing the badge and his boss hog boss that backs him up. If I take anything or yours intentionally and taunt you with it, sure break my leg. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:14:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillyDBerger: Plenty in GD support deadly force for misdemeanors. I don't, but I try to remind people that there is no law so trivial that the police won't kill you to enforce it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:15:03 AM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:15:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: Kiss that boot just a little harder Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. Kiss that boot just a little harder Cup those thugs balls |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:16:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. Yup. I just asked them to sign once and that was it. Just write refused on the bottom of the citation and give them their copy. Get back on motorcycle and go to Krispy Kreme. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:18:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. Thats the ticket, pun intended, my titanium pen with smooth as butter german manufactured refill cartridge is for me only. I buy packs of cheap walmart ballpoints as loaners. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:19:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: Cup those thugs balls Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. Kiss that boot just a little harder Cup those thugs balls  It's a collision of assholes, certainly. But can you really defend the cop here? Come on. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:19:09 AM EDT
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I bet the thieving asshole won't do that again.
Thieves need to have their hands chopped off like they do in the middle east. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:19:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wjoutlaw: I don't, but I try to remind people that there is no law so trivial that the police won't kill you to enforce it. Yup. And that’s where training comes in. You’ve gots to know the trivial laws, before you learn the bigger ones. Learning out dated city ordinances was a priority in our killing enforcement class. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JeepersCreepers: Reasonable if it was a Zebra F-701. Yup, I had a TDPS officer hand me a Zebra F-701 to sign a warning. She was pretty cool about me doing 90 in a 75 with no front license or posted registration. I was sure to return her pen for the favor. No tasers were fired. No legs were broken. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:20:22 AM EDT
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Let's see this pen. It might have special writing on it that could help understand this urgency to get it back.
It could say Bank of America for example. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:20:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PepePewPew]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeepnstein: I have a cheapo department issued pen clipped to my ticket book. Nobody uses my good pen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeepnstein: I have a cheapo department issued pen clipped to my ticket book. Nobody uses my good pen. If I worked out of a motor vehicle that I didn't own, the only pens I'm having in that vehicle are employer supplied or free advertising pens from local businesses. If my workday includes collecting signatures, I'm starting the day with half a dozen pens. Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: “Give it to me, or I’m going to Tase you,” the officer says on camera. And what's his UOF/Taser policy say about doing that? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:20:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. MY TAXES PAID FOR THIS PEN! GET ME YOUR SUPERVISOR!
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:20:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BrayD]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. And there are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:20:52 AM EDT
[#23]
I’m pretty sure I know how this could have been avoided.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:21:02 AM EDT
[#24]
the taser is mightier than the pen?
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MD, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:23:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raverill: That pen is about to cost the tax payers $3M |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:23:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Try stealing George Washington's pen and find the fuck out. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:24:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: "Followed him home" You mean with lights and sirens and the suspect refused to stop? Because that's what happened. Funny, none of the charges and verbal exchange do not reflect this. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:24:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Anne Arundel County already taught that one to Gary Willis. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:25:34 AM EDT
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My dad threw an officers nice pen into traffic. He didn't get tased. I suppose it helped my grandfather was the chief of police.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:28:05 AM EDT
[#30]
Doesnt look broken to me.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:28:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Try taking a cop’s gun and see what happens. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:29:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. What would you have done if someone drove off with your pen? I am not being sarcastic. Genuine question |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:29:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BrayD]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Try taking a cop’s gun and see what happens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Originally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Try taking a cop’s gun and see what happens. There are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:30:22 AM EDT
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Definitely a special pen
 + THE OUTER SPACE PEN + |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:30:38 AM EDT
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The dude was non compliant, fleeing, and resisting after he stole the pen. His injuries were sustained as a result of his own actions.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:32:17 AM EDT
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That cop beats his wife.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:36:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnSmith6073: Try stealing George Washington's pen and find the fuck out. Very apt and intelligent question. I forgot they had ballpoint pens then and not quills and a bottle ink. He was against government having this kind of power. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:36:45 AM EDT
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There is theft. Pen, watch, wallet, paper clip, doesn’t matter. If it’s ok to steal a pen what else is it ok to steal? Where do you draw the line? Guy fucked around and found out.
I’ll have a sweet tea. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:37:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLR350: I’m pretty sure I know how this could have been avoided. You mean cops don't get seriously pissed off if you don't say 'haha, fuck you' to them?? It'd be one thing if he just drove off. Waving the pen at the cop while driving off is a definite 'fuck you'. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:37:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: What would you have done if someone drove off with your pen? I am not being sarcastic. Genuine question Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter: I'm so glad we moved away from having signed citations. People would hold my pen hostage while they lectured/cussed me. Never give them control of the citation book. I also switched from good pens to cheap pens for traffic cites. So I could just walk away. What would you have done if someone drove off with your pen? I am not being sarcastic. Genuine question Obvious answer is Pitt the car, Taze, and inflict serious bodily injury |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:42:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: It's a collision of assholes, certainly. But can you really defend the cop here? Come on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. Kiss that boot just a little harder Cup those thugs balls It's a collision of assholes, certainly. But can you really defend the cop here? Come on. To be honest two things: I’m sick of people.. all people lol I don’t think the cop tried to break his leg, just took someone not complying to the ground. Hopefully he learns and just uses throwaway pens and smiles and waves at the next one. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:44:49 AM EDT
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Mightyfinepolicework.JPG
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:45:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: I guess taking a pen equals permanent bodily injury and possible death. People wonder why there is a divide between LE and the public. Some fine protecting and serving. Murderers and rapists in the loose and this is how they spend their time. I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. WHT yes,yes it is. Don't be a cunt with a badge and a gun and cry over a pen. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:46:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: C3H5N3O9]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: There are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Originally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Try taking a cop’s gun and see what happens. There are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. Except that’s not what happened here, so it’s irrelevant. It was the cop’s pen. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:48:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Except that’s not what happened here, so it’s irrelevant. It’s was the cop’s pen. Just imagine what would happen if I dialed 911 and said someone stole my pen. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrayD: There are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. True, but taking something from a cop who then retaliates against you is different from cops retaliating against those who refuse to participate in the cop's illegal actions. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:52:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DragoMuseveni: At least it wasn't a fucking Pencil. Dude would have gotten killed. I seen a guy in a bar that killed three men with a pencil, a fucking pencil |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:55:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: C3H5N3O9]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Martlet: Just imagine what would happen if I dialed 911 and said someone stole my pen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Martlet: Originally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Except that’s not what happened here, so it’s irrelevant. It was the cop’s pen. Just imagine what would happen if I dialed 911 and said someone stole my pen. They’d tell you it wasn’t an emergency, and ask you to call the non emergency number. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:57:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Except that’s not what happened here, so it’s irrelevant. It’s was the cop’s pen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Originally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By C3H5N3O9: Originally Posted By BrayD: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: Originally Posted By CouchCommando22: Originally Posted By Abrenneman: I would say it’s more of a parenting issue that created that divide. Dude played a game and lost. Actions have consequences. Don’t be a snarky punk then cry about it. It has nothing to do with the constant excessive force and total disregard of the Bill of Rights. Shouldn’t steal things and then not comply with lawful orders. Not much to it. If it's acceptable to break a person's leg for not complying in giving up a pen, then it could be argued it's acceptable to do significantly more harm for not complying in giving up one's guns. Try taking a cop’s gun and see what happens. There are plenty of videos of police in various encounters demanding people who legally own guns and aren't breaking the law to give them up so they could investigate whether they're stolen or not. Except that’s not what happened here, so it’s irrelevant. It’s was the cop’s pen. There is no such thing as a 'cop's pen', it just a pen. Either all pens are worth police chases and violent arrest, or they are not. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:58:35 AM EDT
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So just curious but do we know if Bray had the officers pen in the first place?
I agree the dude should have just complied and given it back if he had it but for a pen I have to say the officers actions were excessive. Bray and his attorney will receive a nice payday. |
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