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Link Posted: 5/18/2024 1:01:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Well, honestly I have to admit that 50 cals will take down planes.  I think all of the US fighter planes in WWII were armed with them.  That said, also pretty sure there have been exactly -0- planes shot down in the US with shoulder fired 50bmgs.

But it makes sense - tyrants don't like an armed public.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 1:17:26 AM EDT
[#2]
They can regulate and "reclassify" deez nuts.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 1:40:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Great, now I have to go buy a .50

the federal government is my primary source of knowing what to buy these days.  I just look at what they want to ban, and buy that.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 1:47:03 AM EDT
[#4]
I wasn't even halfway through reading the thread title and my brain was already asking "why to they pretend to care about arming
cartels when they just let millions of people stream into the country, unvetted, unknown?" But we all know the answer to that.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 1:55:17 AM EDT
[#5]
DOJ and Eric Holder to the white courtesy phone.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 3:11:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mousehunter] [#6]
It's all about the money.  Uncle Joe does not get a kickback unless we sell the 50s to the Mexican military to have them give them to the cartels.


After the Fast and Furious - it is an utter joke about killing domestic sales because the Cartel can get them.  Honestly, I would love to know how much donation these 2 TX congressmen got from the Cartels - most likely the Cartels have put them up to write this shit.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 3:26:22 AM EDT
[#7]
No and raise the limit to 20mm
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 3:37:29 AM EDT
[#8]
“Drop your freedoms because criminals use them” is general a hard sell for me.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 3:48:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By burnprocess:
I had a dream not that long ago that robots were being used against us, and the best way to take them out was to hit their CPU and main cooling system in the chest with a .50.

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That's just science.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 3:58:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By prebans:

Text of ban here.
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The actual text is even more retarded.

This bans any rifle of .50 caliber so .50 Beowulf is banned as well. If you had a PCC in 50 AE (and typing that makes me want one) that'd be banned.

BUT - the requirement is to be exactly .50 cal. 50bmg, for example, is .498 at the lands, .51 at the grooves and .51 bullet diameter. So does this legislation even cover it?

Bigger than .50 is fine though, not covered by this legislation. You want a 20mm? No worries.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 4:01:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Threefingers:
No and raise the limit to 20mm
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It's not a threshold - it bans only .50 cal.

Also fuck any limits.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 4:16:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mousehunter] [#12]
Does it ban muzzle loaders over .50 - that is the vast majority of muzzle loader rifles sold in the US.  They are not firearms, but they are rifles.

Does it ban 12 gauge rifles that can shoot 12 gauge slugs?  They are ammunition over 50 caliber.  How about shotguns that can accept a riffled choke?  The text does use the word rifle.

Does it mention it even has to be a long gun?  Are they going to come after pistols labeled as 50AE or 50S&W.  Ok Apparently this is safe, but they did want to add rifles to the multiple purchase reporting requirement.

Lets be more constitutional about this - the only thing that needs to be banned is Politicians that violate their oath of office.  They kill 1000x more people than privately owned BMG's
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 6:06:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Cause, how many crimes are committed with a 50? I'll wait...
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It's not about crime. It's about criminalizing.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 6:28:53 AM EDT
[#14]
Sooooo....

Which is a better buy, the 20" or 29" barrel?
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 6:31:38 AM EDT
[#15]
so now a law banning certain firearms from law abiding citizens due to US criminal use isnt good enough, now they want to ban certain firearms because of what criminals do in mexico and south america.  

fuck all of them.
laws do not stop criminals,
guns stop criminals.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 7:30:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lonesome_Dave:

You want to stop arming the cartels?  Abolish the ATF.
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Link Posted: 5/18/2024 7:59:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Anything but building the wall and securing our border apparently.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:02:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By woodsie:
Anything but building the wall and securing our border apparently.
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A 50 can shoot through a wall. We have to get the guns first.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:48:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Your1Savior:
Sooooo....

Which is a better buy, the 20" or 29" barrel?
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@Your1Savior 29” seems to be more commonly available at better pricing. I wanted the 20” for compactness but took a 29” due to the price I found it for.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:55:31 AM EDT
[#20]
This is your friendly neighborhood reminder that Armalite now makes a mag fed ar-50.

Big 58 inch badda boom
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 8:58:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lokifox] [#21]
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Originally Posted By mnew007:
This is your friendly neighborhood reminder that Armalite now makes a mag fed ar-50.

Big 58 inch badda boom
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SOB!!!

They should have done it years ago but Westrom is a shit businessman.

Still needs the chassis modernized, barrel fluting on all of them, and the 32" option brought back.

They are absolute tack drivers.

ETA - They should bullpup it since Barrett has killed the M95.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:11:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Stop arming cartels???
We don't need to ban shit, turn the military loose on them and tell the Mexican president and thier military to stay the fuck out of the way, we will let them know when we are finished.
And FUCK Marxiat Democrats and thier bans.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:12:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lokifox:


SOB!!!

They should have done it years ago but Westrom is a shit businessman.

Still needs the chassis modernized, barrel fluting on all of them, and the 32" option brought back.

They are absolute tack drivers.

ETA - They should bullpup it since Barrett has killed the M95.
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@lokifox kinda mad it was not an option when i bought mine, but , oh well!

Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:14:53 AM EDT
[#24]
Do liberals comply with laws they don't like? Can’t wait to see what comes when the Dems control both houses.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:16:22 AM EDT
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Damn!
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:26:57 AM EDT
[#26]
Stop Arming Cartels Act should be disband the ATF
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:31:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By VidaEterna:
Do liberals comply with laws they don't like? Can’t wait to see what comes when the Dems control both houses.
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[Paraphrased] "You have to pass it to see what's in it."
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:34:36 AM EDT
[#28]
Where is the 'stop letting the cartel come over the border' act?
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:34:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:


I had a dream I fucked my wifes sister at my grandparents house.
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Pics of wife's sister?
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:35:36 AM EDT
[#30]
Start by first ending all foreign military assistance  by the US govt to mexico.   Anything their military gets will eventually be delivered directly to the cartels


Kaybe someday a US president will invade mexico, push and relocate everyone within 100 miles of the border south, and build a new border fence there.  It will be a huge depopulated nature preserve, monitored by drones and other electronic surveillance.   Except for Baja California- just take that whole.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:43:24 AM EDT
[#31]
Politicians arm our enemies every day, they don't care about cartels having .50's they have everything the Mexican military has.
Stop being obtuse, politicians are afraid of 50's being used against them; in Minecraft.
It's about banning  American civilians from owning 50's
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:43:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Your1Savior:
Sooooo....

Which is a better buy, the 20" or 29" barrel?
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The 29” with a can is long, I might buy a 20” too because Barrett won’t sell just the barrel

If you aren’t going to suppress it then it doesn’t really matter

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Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:44:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mnew007:
This is your friendly neighborhood reminder that Armalite now makes a mag fed ar-50.

Big 58 inch badda boom
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Backorder:
We understand you want your new ArmaLite AR-50A1 Repeater as soon as possible, due to high demand, back order is only 12-16 weeks. Orders received will require a 50% deposit while we manufacture your order.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:44:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JQ66:
Start by first ending all foreign military assistance  by the US govt to mexico.   Anything their military gets will eventually be delivered directly to the cartels


Kaybe someday a US president will invade mexico, push and relocate everyone within 100 miles of the border south, and build a new border fence there.  It will be a huge depopulated nature preserve, monitored by drones and other electronic surveillance.   Except for Baja California- just take that whole.
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It's worked before...
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:48:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 797hp:


The 29” with a can is long, I might buy a 20” too because Barrett won’t sell just the barrel

If you aren’t going to suppress it then it doesn’t really matter

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_0558_jpeg-3217194.JPG
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Originally Posted By 797hp:
Originally Posted By Your1Savior:
Sooooo....

Which is a better buy, the 20" or 29" barrel?


The 29” with a can is long, I might buy a 20” too because Barrett won’t sell just the barrel

If you aren’t going to suppress it then it doesn’t really matter

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_0558_jpeg-3217194.JPG


Every time you post that pic I realize I need the modernized BAR.

Still not a huge Barrett autoloader fan although they have their place. Wish someone would make a bullpup DI that could repeatably come in under MOA and run a quiet can without issue.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 9:56:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lokifox:


Every time you post that pic I realize I need the modernized BAR.

Still not a huge Barrett autoloader fan although they have their place. Wish someone would make a bullpup DI that could repeatably come in under MOA and run a quiet can without issue.
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The HCAR loaded with black tips = fuck you and whatever you’re hiding behind
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:15:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 797hp:


The HCAR loaded with black tips = fuck you and whatever you’re hiding behind
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Originally Posted By 797hp:
Originally Posted By lokifox:


Every time you post that pic I realize I need the modernized BAR.

Still not a huge Barrett autoloader fan although they have their place. Wish someone would make a bullpup DI that could repeatably come in under MOA and run a quiet can without issue.


The HCAR loaded with black tips = fuck you and whatever you’re hiding behind


Yep. Just that extra bit of velocity is the ticket to performance.

I've seen the results of them loaded in 308 cases and they just don't get there.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:16:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:26:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Now a 50BMG pic thread


Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:30:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jm0502:

I had one similar, there were people that could be killed by APIT
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I think most people can be killed by APIT
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:45:51 AM EDT
[#41]
Anti Gun Cucks
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:55:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lokifox:


Yep. Just that extra bit of velocity is the ticket to performance.

I've seen the results of them loaded in 308 cases and they just don't get there.
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.300 win mag for that extra little zing

Black Tip
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 10:59:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1969GTX:
DOJ and Eric Holder to the white courtesy phone.
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This.  Fuckers.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:01:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MateFrio:
So we are going to ban something in the US to try and stop bad things happening outside our border..?

Waiting for Mexico to pass a stop Illegal Immigration Act to US bill....
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Yeah, further proof the left and RINOs care about foreigners more than their own citizens.

This problem is reduced by just closing the fucking border.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:02:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha:
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It’s weird, but I want one.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:06:11 AM EDT
[#46]
How about the Constitutional Infringement Enforcement Act of 2024?
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:09:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jeepnstein:
The only .50 caliber I ever saw in a criminal investigation was a Ma Deuce that was property of the Colombian Army.  And they wanted it back.  Guy had it set up with a belt ready aimed at his front door.
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I think the Branch Davidians used at least one in Waco when Janet Reno sent in the AFT assault on their home.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:10:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jeepnstein:
The only .50 caliber I ever saw in a criminal investigation was a Ma Deuce that was property of the Colombian Army.  And they wanted it back.  Guy had it set up with a belt ready aimed at his front door.
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I think the Branch Davidians used at least one in Waco when Janet Reno sent in the AFT assault on their home.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:19:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Buy what you can, while you can.  You can always work a second job, do side gigs and earn a little extra cash to pay stuff down.
I saw this happen in Illinois, and told people to get whatever they could while it was still an option. Now we have a full awb and there is very little movement.
Yes, court cases are pending,  but we know how that goes.
There are plenty who wish they could buy any number of ARs now.  So if you think you might want one, buy now.
Link Posted: 5/18/2024 11:19:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol:
I never wanted a .50 BMG, until now!
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The AR-15 wasn't nearly as popular until after 1994.....
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