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Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:13:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hillcountry:
Boston’s combat zone strip joints were famous for this. Strippers would make the rounds between sets and hustle for drinks…bought them a drink now and then if they were cute. Got some cock rubs for my trouble! 😛 this was many years ago.
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Did not know that was the name of Boston’s seedy section. Now I know where they got the name for the Combat Zone from Fallout 4.

Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:17:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Yes

Kunsan AB circa 2000.

Went once with the bros and never went back. I was disgusted by the scene.
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I was in Kunsan in 2000 as well.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:32:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By showmeballer:
I went to college there during the transition period before the chicoms really fucked it up and Lan Kwai Fong was the spot to meet chicks without that nonsense. Wan Chai was where all the Filipino maids preyed on Navy sailors and tourists.
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Originally Posted By thesquidliest:
Juicy bars.  Tons of those in Wan Chai, Hong Kong in mid '90s while HK was still British.  A few were since Vietnam days at the time. The Neptune Bar comes to mind.

Really shitty places where lots of old expats hung out.  We all went to Kowloon and Macau when it was still a Portuguese colony.  The ChiComs fucked everything up now.

You wound either buy those ridiculously overpriced drinks for the chick, or just pay the bar fine to get the girl for X amount of hours.
I went to college there during the transition period before the chicoms really fucked it up and Lan Kwai Fong was the spot to meet chicks without that nonsense. Wan Chai was where all the Filipino maids preyed on Navy sailors and tourists.
That name Lan Kwai Fong rings a bell!  We called Wan Chai the "Wanch" because it sucked.  And yes, there were some squids who dug places there.

We also hit up the YMCA building area right off the Star Ferry pier in Kowloon, I think we got run out of the Mad Dog pub there.  Also remember the China Jump bar, went there every time I stopped in HK which was often back then.

And no matter what food we ordered, it always seemed to come out to like 7 HK dollars.  Best dim sum I've had in my life was in Kowloon.  Also remember Stanley Market and Victoria Peak.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:36:45 PM EDT
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In the western side of Suzhou in the karaoke bars and k-pop places this is common. Paid companions. Two managers always at the bar. One watching bars/waiting staff and the other watching the girls.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:39:44 PM EDT
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Been in Japan… but I’m not into buying a drink for them. Seems sad, but some of the guys I was with bought them. None of them ever got anything but expensive drinks for the girls.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:42:28 PM EDT
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Land of the Big PX
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:58:40 PM EDT
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This sounds similar to what Geisha were in Feudal Japan: company in a social setting. (Geisha were not courtesans, they were professional social companions)
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 7:59:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gearjammer351:


I hear ya, brother.

My wife keeps trying to get me to go "meet people" and make friends here (we moved to her hometown so she could be near her family). She even suggested going to a bar. The bars around here are all pretty much like what you describe - or places for trailer trash to swill cheap lager and look for something to fight over.

Now, if there was a place to sit and sip Scotch on a nice leather wing chair and have a conversation with someone without a neck tattoo, I'd totally be up for that.
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I like the cut of your jib my friend.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:07:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jkirkon:
A former co-worker ditched our group while we were in Japan, and hung out at a few of those places.

He thought he was gonna get some pussy….lol.
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Umm, he probably did. That whole girlfriend experience is a two part affair with two transactions.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:21:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thesquidliest:
That name Lan Kwai Fong rings a bell!  We called Wan Chai the "Wanch" because it sucked.  And yes, there were some squids who dug places there.

We also hit up the YMCA building area right off the Star Ferry pier in Kowloon, I think we got run out of the Mad Dog pub there.  Also remember the China Jump bar, went there every time I stopped in HK which was often back then.

And no matter what food we ordered, it always seemed to come out to like 7 HK dollars.  Best dim sum I've had in my life was in Kowloon.  Also remember Stanley Market and Victoria Peak.
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My university was in Kowloon and the dim sum game was fucking legit!  I had local room mates so I was able to eat food most people don't even know exists.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:27:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MallNinja531:
I have a buddy that always jokes that he's going to open a strip club called "I think she likes me!". The funny thing is, he visits those places more than any of my other friends and always has stories of how one of the girls really liked him, gave him her number, and they're actually going meet up to go out. It's never once come to fruition even though it seems every time he goes he lands a prospective date. He actually is the only single guy in our whole group of friends.
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Treat Her Right - I Think She Likes Me


@MallNinja

Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:38:04 PM EDT
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"You must say Torean word Yimmy! Torean word then I love you!"

Now I'm thinking how much will this cost and what is this chick yammering on about?
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" Only has $2.50 for the next two weeks"
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:41:06 PM EDT
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No, but when I found out about the concept I was intrigued. I would certainly go to one if I had the chance.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:45:01 PM EDT
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This sounds about as stupid as giving girls money on Chaterbate.   Why don't you just go buy a piece of pussy with that money?   I mean, you can choke the chicken for free without giving them a dime.  Want more girlfriend experience that that?  Just go rent a ho for an hour.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:45:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
No. They don't really exist in America. You may have found a couple, but those are exceptions to the rule.
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So a business opportunity......
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:49:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zeekh:



So a business opportunity......
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Originally Posted By zeekh:
Originally Posted By odiedodi:
No. They don't really exist in America. You may have found a couple, but those are exceptions to the rule.



So a business opportunity......

Absolutely.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:51:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:53:27 PM EDT
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Me so horney.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 8:55:11 PM EDT
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I haven't been to one since I first arrived on Okinawa in 1978. I guess I just had to figure it out, but after that no interest.

I did get dragged to one in the Philippines with some guys I was going through some company training course with down there in 1996.

Just not my thing. Wouldn't go even if somebody else was paying.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:04:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks:
No, I haven't.  I don't need to pay women to talk to me.  They are naturally attracted to a masculine, self-confident man.
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This being GD, I'm going to interpret this as meaning your Ham-planet obesity keeps women in your orbit due to the  gravitational pull of your mass.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:07:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks:
No, I haven't.  I don't need to pay women to talk to me.  They are naturally attracted to a masculine, self-confident man.
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You figured this out by watching the other guys at the bar talk to women?
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:07:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Walkure:
No, but when I found out about the concept I was intrigued. I would certainly go to one if I had the chance.
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Avatar checks out
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:12:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EamonnWright:
This being GD, I'm going to interpret this as meaning your Ham-planet obesity keeps women in your orbit due to the  gravitational pull of your mass.
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No, I figured this out by watching actual men interact with non-prostitute women.  When I was about 13 y.o.  

You see, I grew up way before social media, when we went out on real dates and learned how to treat one another.  This is clearly a foreign concept for you, but you can look it up on your phone or ask someone on fakebook.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:13:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gearjammer351:


I hear ya, brother.

My wife keeps trying to get me to go "meet people" and make friends here (we moved to her hometown so she could be near her family). She even suggested going to a bar. The bars around here are all pretty much like what you describe - or places for trailer trash to swill cheap lager and look for something to fight over.

Now, if there was a place to sit and sip Scotch on a nice leather wing chair and have a conversation with someone without a neck tattoo, I'd totally be up for that.
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Cigar bars usually have this atmosphere.   The good looking waitresses typically mention their bartender boyfriend early in the conversation - which is fine because I'm there for the same reasons you would be.

And you don't have to smoke!
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:13:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By d16man:
Sounds like a place full of NPCs or incels.
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A.k.a. ugly guy bar.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:14:51 PM EDT
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Soju kettles at the Juicy Bars in Dongducheon, Korea. Good times.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:14:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JaredC1:


You figured this out by watching the other guys at the bar talk to women?
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See my post above.

By going to bars to meet women, you are likely to meet women who go to bars to meet men.  These were not the women I generally wanted to meet, so this was not my my typical way of meeting women, although I participated in it several times.  For research purposes only.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:16:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lou_Daks:

No, I figured this out by watching actual men interact with non-prostitute women.  When I was about 13 y.o.  

You see, I grew up way before social media, when we went out on real dates and learned how to treat one another.  This is clearly a foreign concept for you, but you can look it up on your phone or ask someone on fakebook.
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Not foreign to me in the least. It was a joke, calm down.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:18:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EamonnWright:
Not foreign to me in the least. It was a joke, calm down.
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So was my post.  Clam down.  It's clam down.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:36:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
No. They don't really exist in America. You may have found a couple, but those are exceptions to the rule.
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Leesville.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:39:15 PM EDT
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Lived in Hawaii for 20 years, you know I damn well I did!  Between them and strip clubs in my early 20's they helped pull me out of my shell. The best were the buy me drinky, Karaoke,Pupu places. My mother was visiting one year and I had a mixed club of trades guys, so after work mom comes to the base to pick me up in the heap,

I think we were all trying to feel each other out and just have fun! So we go to a place about  3 miles from base. About the time we get there dark clouds are comming in hot! Just get inside and a torrential rain storm opens up. We get a booth and get get our drink and food order in. About 10 minutes later boom! Power out. Soon little floating tea candles come out with all of the girls like a Hollywood movie. Then they kind of gathered up and started leading sing along songs!

Made my mothers trip and she still brings it up years later.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:47:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MallNinja531:
I have a buddy that always jokes that he's going to open a strip club called "I think she likes me!". The funny thing is, he visits those places more than any of my other friends and always has stories of how one of the girls really liked him, gave him her number, and they're actually going meet up to go out. It's never once come to fruition even though it seems every time he goes he lands a prospective date. He actually is the only single guy in our whole group of friends.
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When I was young and single if you had cocaine they'd leave with you after shift and go "party" with you .
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 10:05:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimmyT:
Is that like the KTVs in China and other parts of Asia where you pay chicks to sing karaoke with you?  Had a local take me to one and it was awkward and weird and was trying to figure out if they were just whores with a different gimmick or what. As I was not interested in partaking of such shenanigans I never did figure it out.
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“Hey Farva, what’s the name of the restaurant with all the stuff on the walls?”
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:38:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Ah yes, izakayas, love em. Definitely one of the best things about Japan that I wished were more commonplace here. Not just the establishments themselves, but the culture as well.

Instead, here we get bars and pubs with tons of TV's that throw you wings, burgers, pizza, and fried food, then hope you leave asap. It's just not the same
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Yeah, I always thought that you could do well to start up an American Izakaya chain of restaurants. Focus on college towns in places where most of your customers can walk home. The menu wouldn't have to be just Japanese food - like the Izakayas here, you could offer french fries and other finger food. Maybe pizza by the slice or sliders.

For those who haven't been to Japan, Izakayas are Japanese restaurants generally for groups of people where the idea is to order food to be shared by everybody in your group, and alcoholic drinks. They almost always have a Nomihodai (all you can drink - which often downgrades when your waiter/waitress is too busy to bring them as fast as you can drink them) option. You never order everything all at once, but continue ordering food and drink as long as you are there.

In the bigger cities these generally have a two hour limit - but if you start late enough and there aren't many customers as your two hours expires they will usually let you stay longer - as long as you are still ordering. It is one of the few places in Japan where you might end up talking with some other random people you just met.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:53:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Snake_driver:
Pretty much all the bars in Vietnam were like that.  When you come in, all kinds naked girls run over to say "you buy me drink GI???"  How 'bout Bangkok?  Same same.  It was just awful!

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LOL
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:31:06 AM EDT
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Not unusual in business functions for a woman to pay for a man to be on her arm at the event. Past that it's up to the two people involved. Sometimes it goes further, sometimes it's just arm candy for the event or have someone that can speak the language of the event and such.

Big business during the dotcom boom.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 3:56:27 AM EDT
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Yes.  I live a few blocks from the red light district in Tijuana.  Some girls don't go upstairs, they just hustle for drinks/tips.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 4:17:47 AM EDT
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I live in Pattaya Thailand. A “Lady drink” is a customary precursor to finding out “what is on the menu.” It’s a great system if you know how to use it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 4:27:57 AM EDT
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Buy a drink, ask how much for a short time, or long time if I was stuck downtown for the night.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 4:30:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ajek:
How does it differ from hiring an escort to be arm candy for the evening?
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In Japan they are professional confederation streerers. The main clientele is groups of businessmen and they keep the conversation off work while finding these people, that may not know each other very well, something to talk about.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:08:29 AM EDT
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Some Joe threw an Arty simulator in the 2 Bunnies club on Hay st. back in the early 1980's when Hay st. still was Hay st after he got jammed buy them charging him a couple $100 for "Champagne" for one of the hostesses. It blew a chicks hand off or mangled it up real good when she tried to chuck it outside and it blew. .


But yes OP, where there's Joe there'll be Hostess bars or least there were…
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:29:00 AM EDT
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Because of my job I have been to the most horrible hostess bars in Japan and the best, hundreds of them. The Philipines, China, Brazil, and Singapore are all similar but Japan is more high-end and not geared towards paying for sex. The good hostess bars here have strict rules on sex, because sex is bad for business. They are very entertaining if you don't expect anything out of it. You are paying for company and entertainment. Some of the women are super hot, some are just good at making you laugh. Some are just sad.

The really high-end ones in Ginza are great and look like opulent hotels, but they can cost 10s of thousands a night. The women look like they are going to the oscars and the booze is all top shelf. The thing is you are paying for entertainment, so often the cheaper ones are way more fun and relaxed. It's like driving a Miata, or a Ferrari.

It's a very interesting and somewhat ancient business model. There are many aspects of it that are similar to earning a commission for high-end sales roles, but there is a psychological aspect of "catching" a rich guy and keeping him your customer. The bars have strategy meetings on catching and keeping customers, and there are consultants who teach hostesses.

It's a lot of fun to go with someone who knows the system and hopefully the girls. A lot of women have taken me to hostess bars, which is always interesting. I've been to host bars (aimed at women) and the transvestite or new-half bars, they can be really fun.

My friends own them or are former hostesses, I have so many stories. One of my friends was the top-earning hostess in Japan for a while, she can wrap almost any man around her finger. She has destroyed many marriages and broken hundreds of hearts.

I almost never had to pay, compensated dating is not my thing but I understand why many guys (and girls) love it, and it's a big part of the business culture here in Japan. It is ingrained into society and goes back a long long time.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:29:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
No. They don't really exist in America. You may have found a couple, but those are exceptions to the rule.
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Clearly, you have never been to Jacksonville N.C.(said in Captain Jack Sparrow voice).



I am  former Marine.........soooooo.

I never participated(parted with my cash) but went to a bunch. I often was DD as I had a car, so I would get gas money as well as all the soda I could drink and food I could ask for. It worked out good for me,  as well as my Leather neck buddies. I got gas, drink, food, and a show(drunk Marines and titty bars), and they didn't have to worry about DUI's and it was a lot cheaper than a taxi for them.

Not to mention going across the pond on a NATO Med cruise.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:05:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
The really high-end ones in Ginza are great and look like opulent hotels, but they can cost 10s of thousands a night. The women look like they are going to the oscars and the booze is all top shelf. The thing is you are paying for entertainment, so often the cheaper ones are way more fun and relaxed. It's like driving a Miata, or a Ferrari.
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I do not envy your having to get dragged to these establishments for work. No matter how high end the place might be you have to be on your P's & Q's when drinking with clients and co-workers. I was lucky that my time doing sales was as a sales support engineer so that kind of "closing" function was not expected from me.

But, yeah, the ladies who work the Ginza establishments are VERY easy on the eyes. I really don't know if COVID has changed things there - but I remember having to be in and around Ginza (towards the Shinbashi side) between about 4:30 PM and 6:00 PM - and you would see many stunning examples of the female form dressed to the nines.  

I was told a rule of thumb for Gunza hostess clubs; the lower end places (still extravagantly expansive by American standards) will have their name on the sign outside written in Romaji (English letters), the middle range places have their name written in Katakana, and the high end places have their name in Kanji.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:38:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jkirkon:
A former co-worker ditched our group while we were in Japan, and hung out at a few of those places.

He thought he was gonna get some pussy….lol.
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Back in the day they would give you a handy if you paid for their drink.
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Originally Posted By Ronin76:

Yeah, I always thought that you could do well to start up an American Izakaya chain of restaurants. Focus on college towns in places where most of your customers can walk home. The menu wouldn't have to be just Japanese food - like the Izakayas here, you could offer french fries and other finger food. Maybe pizza by the slice or sliders.

For those who haven't been to Japan, Izakayas are Japanese restaurants generally for groups of people where the idea is to order food to be shared by everybody in your group, and alcoholic drinks. They almost always have a Nomihodai (all you can drink - which often downgrades when your waiter/waitress is too busy to bring them as fast as you can drink them) option. You never order everything all at once, but continue ordering food and drink as long as you are there.

In the bigger cities these generally have a two hour limit - but if you start late enough and there aren't many customers as your two hours expires they will usually let you stay longer - as long as you are still ordering. It is one of the few places in Japan where you might end up talking with some other random people you just met.
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Originally Posted By RayFromJersey:
Ah yes, izakayas, love em. Definitely one of the best things about Japan that I wished were more commonplace here. Not just the establishments themselves, but the culture as well.

Instead, here we get bars and pubs with tons of TV's that throw you wings, burgers, pizza, and fried food, then hope you leave asap. It's just not the same

Yeah, I always thought that you could do well to start up an American Izakaya chain of restaurants. Focus on college towns in places where most of your customers can walk home. The menu wouldn't have to be just Japanese food - like the Izakayas here, you could offer french fries and other finger food. Maybe pizza by the slice or sliders.

For those who haven't been to Japan, Izakayas are Japanese restaurants generally for groups of people where the idea is to order food to be shared by everybody in your group, and alcoholic drinks. They almost always have a Nomihodai (all you can drink - which often downgrades when your waiter/waitress is too busy to bring them as fast as you can drink them) option. You never order everything all at once, but continue ordering food and drink as long as you are there.

In the bigger cities these generally have a two hour limit - but if you start late enough and there aren't many customers as your two hours expires they will usually let you stay longer - as long as you are still ordering. It is one of the few places in Japan where you might end up talking with some other random people you just met.

We have some tapas bars/restaurants (basically restaurants that only serve small plates for sharing) near me, but again they're just restaurants and don't offer the same experience as izakayas. It doesn't help that a lot of them are also BYOB.

I think due to laws and regulations it's probably a bad business model here. My friend from high school owns a small bar and told me he needs to host as many special events as possible to make money; stuff like bands, food trucks, tournaments, etc. that will bring in crowds.
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Haha!  Poor Butters.
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Sounds pretty sad and pathetic.
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Originally Posted By d16man:
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Sounds like places a savvy guy could have a good time.
But seeing some of the utube vids covering this type of entertainment, it’s mostly total mongs who look like a child made a bust out of playdoh.
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