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Posted: 5/12/2024 1:08:56 PM EDT
There i warned you.  Just don't.  They are fucking junk.

I bought one a couple years ago fully knowing I was essentially buying a kit to build a lathe.  I have done non-stop modifications, tuning, tweaks, etc. and I'm fucking done.  Most of any job is spent unfucking this thing which equates to 3 minutes making a part and 27 minutes making sure the fucking thing won't destroy itself.  Everything keeps breaking.  Want to tighten the gibs that are looser than your ex wife's asshole?  Fuck you, any amount of tension and they break.  Want to get the carriage to not wobble like a crackhead?  Oh sorry, now the carriage won't move.  Want to part a #6 stainless screw?  Sorry, that's too much.  Want to face anything?  Well that's not going to happen without an African nipple hanging off your part because the carriage is looser than your ex wife's asshole, see above.  Cross slide and compound?  You'll be more accurate chucking something in a Jacobs in a drill press holding a handsaw against the part.

Just don't

Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:11:22 PM EDT
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I like a lot of things from HF, but would never consider buying a lathe from them.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:12:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:13:54 PM EDT
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Every time you get a lathe it always winds up too small/weak, just one of the rules in life
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:18:31 PM EDT
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There's a reason to buy older lathes and mills. Heavy is good, heavy is reliable.


Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:18:51 PM EDT
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My lathe has this fancy thing called a "Y" axis.

No dusky maiden nipples for me.

Also let's me make cools stuff like....
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Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:20:52 PM EDT
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Grizzly 9x18 isn't too awful.  Still have to do a lot of greasy, messy gear changes if you want to do threading.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:32:04 PM EDT
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There's a reason to buy older lathes and mills. Heavy is good, heavy is reliable.


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Boris the Blade - Weight is a sign of reliability


If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:32:41 PM EDT
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Thank your for the PSA, but I don’t think it was necessary
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:35:11 PM EDT
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Thanks for the warning.  I've fought off the temptation to buy one of those on numerous occasions.

I'd like to get a used Clausing or something else decent when I have the cash and the time.  The little desktop ones look like a PITA, other than really expensive Swiss ones.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:37:16 PM EDT
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Wait, you thought HF would sell a usable, decent, legit lathe?
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:45:10 PM EDT
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I am curious what the OP did to his ex-wife. If he managed to destroy her asshole where it is always loose, he sounds like he is a screw up and probably can't handle a lathe either.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:47:30 PM EDT
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How big of a machine can you squeeze into your workspace, OP?
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:47:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ronin72:
Wait, you thought HF would sell a usable, decent, legit lathe?
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Have you seen the reviews online?

Sometimes I forget how dumb people are.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:48:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UV18:
I am curious what the OP did to his ex-wife. If he managed to destroy her asshole where it is always loose, he sounds like he is a screw up and probably can't handle a lathe either.
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Married 14 years to one woman.

I was basing my info off what I read in the gee dee
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:50:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:


Have you seen the reviews online?

Sometimes I forget how dumb people are.
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Originally Posted By Ronin72:
Wait, you thought HF would sell a usable, decent, legit lathe?


Have you seen the reviews online?

Sometimes I forget how dumb people are.

It’s amazing what some people can do with junk tools.

I’m not one of those people.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:52:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notorious:

It’s amazing what some people can do with junk tools.

I’m not one of those people.
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Originally Posted By Notorious:
Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Originally Posted By Ronin72:
Wait, you thought HF would sell a usable, decent, legit lathe?


Have you seen the reviews online?

Sometimes I forget how dumb people are.

It’s amazing what some people can do with junk tools.

I’m not one of those people.


I've made made some good stuff with this POS, but again the amount of time to keep it running right is insane
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:53:16 PM EDT
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I bought a Hardinge HLV so none of those issues. Worth the coin.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:53:54 PM EDT
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OP, 10 out of 10, solid rant/review.
One question though, how did you (correctly) guess that my ex-wife had a butthole that was slap worn out? I'm curious to find out if you're the guy that wrecked her sphincter and now you feel like bragging about it.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 1:56:35 PM EDT
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OP, 10 out of 10, solid rant/review.
One question though, how did you (correctly) guess that my ex-wife had a butthole that was slap worn out? I'm curious to find out if you're the guy that wrecked her sphincter and now you feel like bragging about it.
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I read enough GD to know the status of ex wife holes
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:06:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
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I've been pretty happy with my 15x50 7.5hp Willis made in Dayton, OH.

Big enough to do as big of a part you care to load in by human power. Small enough to turn .020 pins.

OP, a lot of the problem you're seeing with the gibbs, ways, etc can be fixed with lapping. No adjustment can work if the surfaces aren't correct angles relative to each other.

Power is gonna be a problem unless you put a bigger motor. Sharp sharp tools help. Positive rake on your c/o tool and narrow. You should be using about a .040 wide tool to cut off a #6 screw.

BTW, best way to cut off screws is on a mill. Take a thin piece of stock (1/8" works well). Drill and tap assorted size holes for whatever screws you're going to shorten. Keep them within .25 of the edge. Stand the plate up in a vise. Screw the screw in, leaving enough hanging out the back for what you want to cut off. Keep your hex key in the screw and hold it steady while you mill off the back. Done a bazilian this way and its the quickest bestest way if you have more than a couple screws.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:08:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Thanks for the warning.  I've fought off the temptation to buy one of those on numerous occasions.

I'd like to get a used Clausing or something else decent when I have the cash and the time.  The little desktop ones look like a PITA, other than really expensive Swiss ones.
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Precision Matthews is the best bang for the buck right now, for a new machine. Stick with the made in Taiwan and you're gtg.

I just ordered a knee mill from them. Friend has their gunsmith lathe, iirc.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:12:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I've been pretty happy with my 15x50 7.5hp Willis made in Dayton, OH.

Big enough to do as big of a part you care to load in by human power. Small enough to turn .020 pins.

OP, a lot of the problem you're seeing with the gibbs, ways, etc can be fixed with lapping. No adjustment can work if the surfaces aren't correct angles relative to each other.

Power is gonna be a problem unless you put a bigger motor. Sharp sharp tools help. Positive rake on your c/o tool and narrow. You should be using about a .040 wide tool to cut off a #6 screw.

BTW, best way to cut off screws is on a mill. Take a thin piece of stock (1/8" works well). Drill and tap assorted size holes for whatever screws you're going to shorten. Keep them within .25 of the edge. Stand the plate up in a vise. Screw the screw in, leaving enough hanging out the back for what you want to cut off. Keep your hex key in the screw and hold it steady while you mill off the back. Done a bazilian this way and its the quickest bestest way if you have more than a couple screws.
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depending on the application the best way is to buy the right length or zip wheel/belt sander.  Correct or expedient depending on need.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:12:45 PM EDT
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I have had one for more than 20 years
You learn much getting it ready to do real work

But I agree. Spend some more money and skip that step
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:16:53 PM EDT
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depending on the application the best way is to buy the right length or zip wheel/belt sander.  Correct or expedient depending on need.
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I've been pretty happy with my 15x50 7.5hp Willis made in Dayton, OH.

Big enough to do as big of a part you care to load in by human power. Small enough to turn .020 pins.

OP, a lot of the problem you're seeing with the gibbs, ways, etc can be fixed with lapping. No adjustment can work if the surfaces aren't correct angles relative to each other.

Power is gonna be a problem unless you put a bigger motor. Sharp sharp tools help. Positive rake on your c/o tool and narrow. You should be using about a .040 wide tool to cut off a #6 screw.

BTW, best way to cut off screws is on a mill. Take a thin piece of stock (1/8" works well). Drill and tap assorted size holes for whatever screws you're going to shorten. Keep them within .25 of the edge. Stand the plate up in a vise. Screw the screw in, leaving enough hanging out the back for what you want to cut off. Keep your hex key in the screw and hold it steady while you mill off the back. Done a bazilian this way and its the quickest bestest way if you have more than a couple screws.
depending on the application the best way is to buy the right length or zip wheel/belt sander.  Correct or expedient depending on need.

I know it seems like a hassle and the "long way" to cut them off like that. Yes, buying the correct length is best but I get a lot of rush jobs and have a decent stock of assorted screws but lots of times, not the size I need. Or I need an inbetween size.

Usually when cutting off, it's because I need a very specific length, so accuracy comes in to play. Milling them is fast and accurate with no trial and error or cut and measure. Once you have your plate, and label it, and don't lose it, it's quite convenient.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 2:45:05 PM EDT
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I posted this in a recent mill thread.  I had the HF mill.  It broke after like 2yr, well past the 90day warranty.  Cost of spare parts was over half the price of a brand new ones.  By the time you fix it twice, you could have bought a new one.

I sold it as parts.  Replaced it with a precision matthews.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 3:58:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
There i warned you.  Just don't.  They are fucking junk.

I bought one a couple years ago fully knowing I was essentially buying a kit to build a lathe.  I have done non-stop modifications, tuning, tweaks, etc. and I'm fucking done.  Most of any job is spent unfucking this thing which equates to 3 minutes making a part and 27 minutes making sure the fucking thing won't destroy itself.  Everything keeps breaking.  Want to tighten the gibs that are looser than your ex wife's asshole?  Fuck you, any amount of tension and they break.  Want to get the carriage to not wobble like a crackhead?  Oh sorry, now the carriage won't move.  Want to part a #6 stainless screw?  Sorry, that's too much.  Want to face anything?  Well that's not going to happen without an African nipple hanging off your part because the carriage is looser than your ex wife's asshole, see above.  Cross slide and compound?  You'll be more accurate chucking something in a Jacobs in a drill press holding a handsaw against the part.

Just don't

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It's best to form some sort of rudimentary lathe from the materials in your environment.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:11:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jambalaya:
Grizzly 9x18 isn't too awful.  Still have to do a lot of greasy, messy gear changes if you want to do threading.
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I have a 8x16 (G0768). I paid $1k for it, from their distribution center’s back room where they sell returns and refurbs.

It’s certainly not the world’s best lathe, but it has been more than enough to let me learn, and do everything I’ve needed a lathe for.

I mostly turn plastics and “Ebonite” (hard rubber), and aluminum for tooling and such. I very rarely have a need for steel. The machine is perfectly capable of steel, it’s just more of a pain in the ass than I’d bother with unless I just had to.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I know it seems like a hassle and the "long way" to cut them off like that. Yes, buying the correct length is best but I get a lot of rush jobs and have a decent stock of assorted screws but lots of times, not the size I need. Or I need an inbetween size.

Usually when cutting off, it's because I need a very specific length, so accuracy comes in to play. Milling them is fast and accurate with no trial and error or cut and measure. Once you have your plate, and label it, and don't lose it, it's quite convenient.
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Yeah I hear ya. It's a good idea.

We have the wall of hardware, it's a floor to ceiling wall of shelves full of bread pans, must be a couple hundred of them.  Each one a unique thread/length/type.  I still have to run to the local hardware place. Which we have several so I tend to either buy the right thing or do a quick and dirty.  Sometimes I have to take advantage of the mystical black magic that is mcmaster.   I swear they ship stuff before I hit the buy button.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:20:23 PM EDT
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I am curious what the OP did to his ex-wife. If he managed to destroy her asshole where it is always loose, he sounds like he is a screw up and probably can't handle a lathe either.
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Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:24:04 PM EDT
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They call those kit lathes. They need some work and tuning
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:28:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

Precision Matthews is the best bang for the buck right now, for a new machine. Stick with the made in Taiwan and you're gtg.

I just ordered a knee mill from them. Friend has their gunsmith lathe, iirc.
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Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Thanks for the warning.  I've fought off the temptation to buy one of those on numerous occasions.

I'd like to get a used Clausing or something else decent when I have the cash and the time.  The little desktop ones look like a PITA, other than really expensive Swiss ones.

Precision Matthews is the best bang for the buck right now, for a new machine. Stick with the made in Taiwan and you're gtg.

I just ordered a knee mill from them. Friend has their gunsmith lathe, iirc.


I have the PM835S and absolutely love it, although it's a bit small.

I have the PM1030V and would not buy one again. I do good work on it but it's not great.

My goal is the PM-1440HVT-2.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 4:49:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Yeah I hear ya. It's a good idea.

We have the wall of hardware, it's a floor to ceiling wall of shelves full of bread pans, must be a couple hundred of them.  Each one a unique thread/length/type.  I still have to run to the local hardware place. Which we have several so I tend to either buy the right thing or do a quick and dirty.  Sometimes I have to take advantage of the mystical black magic that is mcmaster.   I swear they ship stuff before I hit the buy button.
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

I know it seems like a hassle and the "long way" to cut them off like that. Yes, buying the correct length is best but I get a lot of rush jobs and have a decent stock of assorted screws but lots of times, not the size I need. Or I need an inbetween size.

Usually when cutting off, it's because I need a very specific length, so accuracy comes in to play. Milling them is fast and accurate with no trial and error or cut and measure. Once you have your plate, and label it, and don't lose it, it's quite convenient.
Yeah I hear ya. It's a good idea.

We have the wall of hardware, it's a floor to ceiling wall of shelves full of bread pans, must be a couple hundred of them.  Each one a unique thread/length/type.  I still have to run to the local hardware place. Which we have several so I tend to either buy the right thing or do a quick and dirty.  Sometimes I have to take advantage of the mystical black magic that is mcmaster.   I swear they ship stuff before I hit the buy button.

I just found out everything they ship is next or second day air. The UPS driver at the new place is cool and we shoot the shit when he has time. Says they must have some kinda deal with UPS.

Ups and amazon went from never delivering to the previous owner to almost daily.
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Originally Posted By batmanacw:


I have the PM835S and absolutely love it, although it's a bit small.

I have the PM1030V and would not buy one again. I do good work on it but it's not great.

My goal is the PM-1440HVT-2.
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Little lathes can be frustrating. Also, they have two lines. Chinese and Taiwan and there is no comparison. Not sure which yours is.

My friends is a taiwan 14x40 but with the larger spindle hole they call the gunsmith lathe. For the money, it's a peach.

I ordered the 9x35 mill. Just didnt have room for the bigger one. Besides, itll mostly be single holes or squaring up stock. Got 1ph step pulley because the varispeed was still a month out. Grew up with step pulleys so, no problem. Lot quieter, too.

Power feed, DRO, installed, shipped,lift gate,  tax exempt, 9500 to my door.
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Ehhh, Harbor Freight desktop machines work fine if you understand their capabilities and work within their limitations.  I used my HF machines to ad a nighthawk IOS optic cut on my 1911 slide.  Cut the slide for the island barrel too.











Link Posted: 5/12/2024 5:25:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

Little lathes can be frustrating. Also, they have two lines. Chinese and Taiwan and there is no comparison. Not sure which yours is.

My friends is a taiwan 14x40 but with the larger spindle hole they call the gunsmith lathe. For the money, it's a peach.

I ordered the 9x35 mill. Just didnt have room for the bigger one. Besides, itll mostly be single holes or squaring up stock. Got 1ph step pulley because the varispeed was still a month out. Grew up with step pulleys so, no problem. Lot quieter, too.

Power feed, DRO, installed, shipped,lift gate,  tax exempt, 9500 to my door.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:


I have the PM835S and absolutely love it, although it's a bit small.

I have the PM1030V and would not buy one again. I do good work on it but it's not great.

My goal is the PM-1440HVT-2.

Little lathes can be frustrating. Also, they have two lines. Chinese and Taiwan and there is no comparison. Not sure which yours is.

My friends is a taiwan 14x40 but with the larger spindle hole they call the gunsmith lathe. For the money, it's a peach.

I ordered the 9x35 mill. Just didnt have room for the bigger one. Besides, itll mostly be single holes or squaring up stock. Got 1ph step pulley because the varispeed was still a month out. Grew up with step pulleys so, no problem. Lot quieter, too.

Power feed, DRO, installed, shipped,lift gate,  tax exempt, 9500 to my door.


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.

My Chinese 1030v is around $3500 when I bought mine and it came with the dro. I'd love to dump my 1030v for a Taiwanese PM lathe someday....
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Enco used to make some awesome stuff that was great for hobbyists, but they went out of business.

Kharn
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Originally Posted By batmanacw:


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.

My Chinese 1030v is around $3500 when I bought mine and it came with the dro. I'd love to dump my 1030v for a Taiwanese PM lathe someday....
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Their prices look to have considerably gone up.

I misspoke when I said my buddy had the gunsmith lathe. I remember him going back and forth between that one and the 14x40 ultra precision with the same spindle bore but made in taiwan and carrying the bigger price tag.

He went for the better one.
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Dude that’s really cool. I opened this thread and almost ducked out with zero desire to own a HF machine damnit. Got a few old pistols that are basically junk to learn on. We need more heroes like dremel fluting guy.
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The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.
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Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:

Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.

Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.

Also, everyone should have a small business. It's a no brainer.

Fill out the simplest of tax Exempt form and save another 6.5%.

Everything you buy that could be used for that business is deducted from your income, saving 30% on those items, in effect.
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Their lathes were ligit a long time ago. I believe they were Grizzlies.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

Their prices look to have considerably gone up.

I misspoke when I said my buddy had the gunsmith lathe. I remember him going back and forth between that one and the 14x40 ultra precision with the same spindle bore but made in taiwan and carrying the bigger price tag.

He went for the better one.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.

My Chinese 1030v is around $3500 when I bought mine and it came with the dro. I'd love to dump my 1030v for a Taiwanese PM lathe someday....

Their prices look to have considerably gone up.

I misspoke when I said my buddy had the gunsmith lathe. I remember him going back and forth between that one and the 14x40 ultra precision with the same spindle bore but made in taiwan and carrying the bigger price tag.

He went for the better one.


Good call. I'm considering upgrading my 1030v Chinese to the Taiwanese 1340gt someday. With everything I want we are talking $12k.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:

Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.
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Originally Posted By giantpune:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7.5k.

Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.


That one is one I'm looking at but now that starts at $7k. With everything I want it would be $12k. I can save $400 by picking it up. It's a 2 hour drive.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:

Also, everyone should have a small business. It's a no brainer.

Fill out the simplest of tax Exempt form and save another 6.5%.

Everything you buy that could be used for that business is deducted from your income, saving 30% on those items, in effect.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
Originally Posted By giantpune:
Originally Posted By batmanacw:


The smallest PM Taiwanese lathe is the PM1236. It starts at $7k.

Ooooooooof.  I just pulled up the receipt for my PM-1340GT, ultra precision lathe.  $5999.  It took adding the DRO and stand to hit $7k.  

BTW, with precision matthews, you can call them up and pay with a check for a 2% discount.

Also, everyone should have a small business. It's a no brainer.

Fill out the simplest of tax Exempt form and save another 6.5%.

Everything you buy that could be used for that business is deducted from your income, saving 30% on those items, in effect.


But you have to show an attempt at making money on the machine if I understand it.
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But you have to show an attempt at making money on the machine if I understand it.
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There's work out there. Set up an Etse page selling widgets. Costs nothing to be a sole proprietor doing business as. DBA Batman Precision.

Boom. All your cleaning supplies,  tools, materials, storage, paper supplies,  computers, phone, etc....deducted.

Another thing is Ohio has pass through income for sole proprietors. You dont pay state income tax up to a pretty substantial amount of income. 250k for a couple.

So, that's nice.
Link Posted: 5/12/2024 6:19:56 PM EDT
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I can't remember if it was Practical Machinist? or one of the other machining/tooling forums that had a long thread on what to do to your HF lathe/mill to make it work better, what parts to check and adjust, what to shitcan and replace, etc.

Great thread from way back, one of my buddies at work had one and did some of the recommendations and upgrades. He was happy with it as a hobbyist. It is a limited platform, but for many small tasks for the hobbyist it can be made better.

Personally I would be eyeing up FB marketplace, I have been seeing lots of good used machines on there more and more. I guess a lot of old school guys doing home machining and tinkering with this stuff are aging out.
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That one is one I'm looking at but now that starts at $7k. With everything I want it would be $12k. I can save $400 by picking it up. It's a 2 hour drive.
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Mine ended up being $8500 including dro, stand, delivery, faceplate, 4 jaw chuck, micrometer stop, a couple live centers, quick change toolpost, carbide insert tooling, work light.  Basically ticking most of the boxes on the page.  

One of these days I want to pony up for the collet chuck and the full sets of metric and standard collets.  Maybe for my birthday I'll treat myself to that this year.
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It's best to form some sort of rudimentary lathe from the materials in your environment.
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Antikythera Fragment #11 World’s First Precision Lathe - Constructing The Antikythera Mechanism
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That is pretty cool stuff! Was looking at that machine on HF's site, would you say it's worth the $730.00 bucks or so it costs or should it be cheaper for what it is? @Millennial
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There's a reason to buy older lathes and mills. Heavy is good, heavy is reliable.


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Lol.
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