I maxed out some characters during the first beta

I liked it

I grew up on the series and look forward to this one.

I still remember playing bootleg copies of the first one at my school with friends on the network.

I am bummed that you have to be online all the time, especially for my friends that have terrible Internet access.

I've been playing it on the X-box. It runs okay, controls are fairly intuitive.

I will say I haven't really gotten much of the multi-player aspect. I feel like I've done everything completely solo outside of the some of the group events you can just walk up to (killing the big boss)

Will be interested to see what the multiplayer communication is like. Especially around PVP and larger "raids"

Nothing transfers over to my knowledge

New PC - Check
Preorder - Check
Schedule week of vacation - Check
Stock up on food and energy drinks - Check

I'm ready.

In for 2023 game of the year

I've been playing a lot of d2r. I never got into 3, it felt too different. 4 looks like 3 a bit. I might give it a shot. Is there any way to play a demo like in the good ole days of gaming

You had two chances to play open beta. Last one was this past weekend.

Overall I think they did/are doing very well with the what I have seen and played. They are actually listening to feedback and making changes.  I’ll be playing early access before the official launch.

I decided not to do it for the extra $30

When it comes to anything that resembles an MMORPG I have to go into it accepting I'm not going to be one of the top players.

If I go into these games with the intent to be competitive, it will end up getting the better of me.

I like having a job, somewhat regular sleep habits, and a relationship with my family

The atmosphere is nothing like 3.  I don't know how anyone could play the betas and think that.  I guess to each their own but they felt nothing alike.

Diablo 1 was the first online game I ever played.  Diablo 2 was a massive step forward and improved the genre in every way.  Diablo 3 was a minor step forward and a step back in some ways.  Diablo 4 feels worse than Diablo 3 or D2R.  Solid pass from me.  I'm not sure how they managed to make the game so bland and boring.

I'm looking forward to couch coop the most.

I've been getting away from my "usual" kinds of games, and this looks pretty good. I've never played a Diablo game before.

PC?  Digital only.  Not sure how consoles work.



I think he meant, it feels a lot like Diablo 3, as in its catering to casual players than more hardcore players.  The game is much easier than 1 or 2. Diablo 3 was a cake walk, even on the highest difficulty setting. During the beta on the highest difficulty, 4 was pretty meh tbh.  I wanted it to be a bit harder on the higher settings.  If casuals want it easier, thats what the difficulty setting is for.

I don't think he meant that the atmosphere was like 3, but I could be wrong.

You're comparing act 1 WT2 to entire games.  I've put thousands of hours into this series.  Diablo 2 is not hard.  Not in any way.  It's not even hard in hardcore mode.   D3 WAS very hard at release.  Harder than Diablo 2 by many times over.  People bitched and they changed it.

It's an ARPG and it's Diablo.   It's never going to be challenging in the same way as a game like Dark Souls.  That's not the point.

Opinions are like assholes, and all that.

I think the always online is going to end up pissing off a lot of people

Played the server load wrekend.    Deleted it before even hitting level 20.

Was just a big "meh" to me.    The story does not mean much to me and the game play does not really move me or something feels off.

Member-berries are dead.

I also hate the new Blizzard thatbis a bunch of woke morons that force you to play online.   I made a character and named it "Troonpolice" hoping to get reported and banned.

I only care about single player and couch coop.  We'll see how it goes, I'll likely still buy the game but will wait a month to see how the servers do.   But online always is fucking stupid.

I get it, I honestly do.   But its nice to just sit back and chill without worrying about the servers, which I'm sure are going to be a hot mess.   I was reading that even for local couch coop both players have to wait in the queue before playing, with D3 my wife and I just booted it up and played, no connections no nothing.  

I have nothing against MMOs, I just wish the option was there for single player without having to deal with other people.  I'm hoping the game blows me away though

While there is no offline mode, you can certainly do all of the mapped instances alone with no other players present.

When in towns you will see other characters but you can progress through the game without anyone else, like Path of Exile.

So what's the big deal about that?

Agreed.

I played D3 as a single player on switch.
I was so powerful at the end, nothing could even come close to killing me.  It was comical.
But I was just on the normal level.
I bought the physical game with a expansion.  By the end I was just tired of the same hack and slash and bailed.

Yes, D3 was intentionally created for casuals. Hands down, and they even acknowledged the fact.

And they did the same with D4 and stated that it was made to cater towards a more casual experience so that players of all types can enjoy it.

I honestly don't expect D4 to be very hard on max difficulty and world tiers.  Sad, but I honestly don't think it will happen.

I get the need for a casual experience, some people don't have time to pour 10+ hours a week into a game, they have family and work schedules that prevent it.  I totally get that.  But there's ways to allow the casual player to enjoy everything the game has to offer through a difficulty slider. Will they get the absolute best of the best gear?  No, and they never would have regardless, but they can still enjoy the game and get some of the best gear in their tier without very much effort or time sink.

I think the true gamers (lol) that grew up with D1 and D2 and the likes, are at that point in life where we're being fazed out.  Everyone wants instant gratification now instead of working towards it.  IE: P2W shops, cheating, etc. etc. etc. the list goes on. These younger players act like they do in real life, I want it and I want it now, I don't want to wait!

I like hard games, but I don't want the difficulty to just ramp up to an impossible level without mechanics being used and ways to defeat the obstacle at hand. Just blanket adding infinite health pools to mobs and making them hit 1000 times harder while we lose health or deal less damage isn't my idea of being hard.  Yes, it's difficult, but at a point it becomes impossible, and that's not cool. Give us more mobs, harder hitting bosses, more mini-bosses, and different types of mobs that are weak to different elements.  Force us to think about things, change our builds up, or weapons, etc.  Don't just throw us against a meat wall that can't be beat.

Sadly I doubt we will see truly difficult games anymore.  And I don't mean games like Dark Souls/Demon Souls. Those are inherently hard and are more of a mechanics things than actually difficult. Once you memorize the mechanics it becomes stupidly easy. Elden Ring had 3 truly difficult bosses, and one of them were pretty cheesy, as in it killed you for really no reason.

But that's just my opinion.