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Lawmonkey

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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:20:13 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By greyninja:

A judge in Canada has cleared the way for a 27-year-old autistic woman to be euthanized despite objections from her dad, who says she's 'healthy' — just 'vulnerable' due to her mental health problems.

In his ruling, Justice Colin Feasby acknowledged that the doctor-assisted death would cause the father 'profound grief,' but said the young woman's right to end her own life trumped his feelings.

A publication ban protects the identities of the dad, the daughter, and her doctors. The father is referred to as WV, and she as MV.

'MV's dignity and right to self-determination outweighs the important matters raised by WV and the harm that he will suffer in losing MV,' Feasby wrote in his 34-page ruling, which was issued this week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13244691/Alberta-judge-greenlights-euthanasia-autistic-woman-DESPITE-objection-dad.html

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Posted: 3/27/2024 11:40:09 PM EDT

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I will be honest.

I am high functioning autistic and have severe ADHD. With some of the crap I have gone through in the past 10 years, there have been more than a few times where I wanted to end my life. Really the only reason I have not done so is because I know it would also be the most selfish thing I could do to my family. Death is the easy way out. Anyone can do it at almost any time. Living is what is hard. There are of course certain instances where I understand and can appreciate why someone would, but they are far outside the norm.

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hockeysew Member Joined Aug 2007 Posts 15398 EE 100% (9) WY, USA	Posted: 3/27/2024 11:44:50 PM EDT [#3] You know I used to just think it was a proliferation of nuts, quacks and idiots. In recent months though I am now convinced evil is truly amongst us.
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Zak406 Joined Jan 2014 Posts 2202 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 3/27/2024 11:46:07 PM EDT [#4] I don’t agree with her choice. However she could take her life at any time. Doing so in any manner. If this is the one she chooses then so be it.

6SJ7GT Member Joined Mar 2015 Posts 8064 EE 0% (0) WI, USA	Posted: 3/27/2024 11:49:10 PM EDT [#5] Quote History Originally Posted By Zak406: I don’t agree with her choice. However she could take her life at any time. Doing so in any manner. If this is the one she chooses then so be it. View Quote You have two choices to treat your disease, MAID or self pay full boat.
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tcfla Drive-by Poster Joined Jan 2013 Posts 12212 EE 100% (9) FL, USA	Posted: 3/27/2024 11:58:03 PM EDT [#6] I'm curious, does Canada have a functioning Death Penalty for heinous crimes? Or are they only killing free citizens. Are prisoners eligible for assisted suicide?

Rheinmetall792 Joined Nov 2023 Posts 3243 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 12:02:55 AM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By HighlandMac: It’s almost like the government is encouraging people to opt out of life. That free healthcare sure is awesome. View Quote Not almost. Canaduh is promoting it.

Rheinmetall792 Joined Nov 2023 Posts 3244 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 12:04:01 AM EDT [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By nutter: Logan’s Run- a blueprint View Quote I bet 90% of millennials or younger can't tell you what that movie is about.

Rheinmetall792 Joined Nov 2023 Posts 3245 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 12:05:47 AM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By tcfla: I'm curious, does Canada have a functioning Death Penalty for heinous crimes? Or are they only killing free citizens. Are prisoners eligible for assisted suicide? View Quote Nope. Murders can't be snuffed out. Only normal citizens.

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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:26:54 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Inneedofhelp:

I am on the autistic spectrum, I have read of such people in Europe doing this. You can judge her, this situation, and yet at the same time you can’t because really, you don’t known what it’s like and the misery that comes from such a state. I myself consider my plight a curse, but for now, I keep going on, despite going through inhuman misery over these last few years, but I won’t judge this woman.

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Originally Posted By StraightShootinGal:

Thing is, no one considers that all of us have our challenges and "tests" on this planet where maybe our "test" and challenge is how we aid the less fortunate (this autistic woman) to be part of our society - not to kill it cuz it's gonna be an inconvenience.

Evil, just pure evil out there....

I am on the autistic spectrum, I have read of such people in Europe doing this. You can judge her, this situation, and yet at the same time you can’t because really, you don’t known what it’s like and the misery that comes from such a state. I myself consider my plight a curse, but for now, I keep going on, despite going through inhuman misery over these last few years, but I won’t judge this woman.

One doesn't NEED the government involved if you really want to end your own life. Once you start going down that slope, it [govt] will never let go of that power and will seek to expand it more and more.

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One day, someone might take revenge on a judge who ruled for an issue like this, they would probably want me on the jury.

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Posted: 3/28/2024 1:58:16 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By MMcCall:

The article says she's autistic, not non-functionally retarded. I don't agree with her decision, but she was deemed capable of making it.

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I didn’t say she was retarded. I said its a dumb argument to make that because she can put a gun in her mouth as a choice that there isn’t anything wrong with the state facilitating that choice as well as doctors guiding people to it.

It’s fucking evil on its face.

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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:54:28 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
Absolutely. The government can't afford to treat unhealthy people, especially chronically ill patients who require long-term care, so they get them to kill themselves instead.

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Originally Posted By xd675:

Originally Posted By HighlandMac:
It's almost like the government is encouraging people to opt out of life. That free healthcare sure is awesome.

Its a necessary component of free healthcare.

Absolutely. The government can't afford to treat unhealthy people, especially chronically ill patients who require long-term care, so they get them to kill themselves instead.

Illustrative of how much socialists actually "care".

Master_Blaster Joined Sep 2001 Posts 24591 EE 100% (3) USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 4:22:48 AM EDT [Last Edit: Master_Blaster] [#13] Quote History Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT: This is the result of abortion on demand. 50 years of propaganda normalizing the killing of unwanted human beings. View Quote That's where you're right kiddo.

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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:23:59 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By MartinSsempa:

For what? Supporting the decision of the daughter in question?

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Originally Posted By MartinSsempa:

Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
As the father of an autistic child, I cannot comment on what I would do to that doctor and judge

For what? Supporting the decision of the daughter in question?

It can be very easy to manipulate the mentally handicapped. This story has been told time and time again, except this go around we are “allowing” her to choose.

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alphajaguars American Pioneer Corps NC Joined Jan 2001 Posts 331772 EE 100% (28) NC, USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 7:31:54 AM EDT [#16] Evil always raises its head George Bernard Shaw: There are an extraordinary number of people whom I want to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymi3umIo-sM
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jollyg83 Member Joined Oct 2002 Posts 13236 EE 0% (0) VA, USA	Posted: 3/28/2024 7:33:53 AM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By hockeysew: You know I used to just think it was a proliferation of nuts, quacks and idiots. In recent months though I am now convinced evil is truly amongst us. View Quote The devil definitely exists.